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SANAN7

BETA San Andreas FINDS

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OG Viking
Big Smoke: You know me. It's not cut. Keep the value in it. Keep it real. You want to drive?

 

I never understood half of that line.

 

Smoke's car is not cut? What's that supposed to mean?

 

And also, what does "real" mean when gang members use the word? Smoke said "Keep it real", Ryder said "I'm the real thing" and so on. I don't understand what they mean.

 

 

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lil weasel

"It's not cut.": Unmodified, original condition. Stock (showroom nice).

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2. Beta Character

 

This is very strange model... He looks like a beta character... But this texture is named 'poolplayer', it means in some beta mission/s, he was playing pool and gave job/s to CJ.

 

user posted image

 

I also tried to replace them to other peds but it crashed. It means their dff files are broken.

 

He looks similar to a crack dealer, that appears only in the second cutscene (inside Jizzy's Club) during "Ice Cold Killa" as one of the guards. He was supposed to be like other crack dealers, but was cut for unknown reasons.

But could be also other guy, that is evidently unused.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBUBFp72Ceo

 

 

BETA The Truth Mission

The Truth is Out There

 

 

The Truth is Out There was a cut mission in Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas. The mission would have taken place somewhere in the Las Venturas set of missions. It was a mission for The Truth in which Carl Johnson and 3 members of the Grove Street families had to go to Bayside Marina and rescue him from government agents who were chasing him for wandering around Area 69. It is believed that you would have been able to use the FBI Truck in this mission.

 

Mission script

 

    Carl Johnson: Yo.

 

    The Truth: CJ. I've nosed too deep this time!

 

    Carl Johnson: I've told you about that stuff, Truthman! Lay off the 'caine,

 

 

 

    The Truth: No. I didn't mean that! The grey government want me out of the way!

 

    Carl Johnson: Yo, speak up.

 

    The Truth: I'm in Bayside, Whole town is crawling with dudes in black suits. I need your help, CJ! I've done some mushrooms, but it hasn't calmed me down at all. CJ! They're after me!

 

    Carl Johnson: Yo, calm down, I'm on my way

 

Source: http://www.grandtheftwiki.com/The_Truth_is_Out_There

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GTASAddict

Judging by codes I found, Rockstar intended for there to be 10 gangs in San Andreas (like in Vice City) but for some reason, they erased 9 & 10.

 

What were their intentions: Leones, Forellis, bikers? For some reason, their skin models are the same as the Aztecas. All 3 look alike but attack each other like the rival gangs do. I doubt Rockstar intended to have 3 Azteca gangs. And #9 & 10 can't be seen without special codes.

 

This has been attacking my curiosity for awhile.

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lil weasel

Only Rockstar KNOWs what they intended and they ain't talkin'.

You can only get a guess of what Players (who are interested) think might be the reason.

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Krawk

Actually, gangs 9 and 10 are nulled out. Gang 6 is the Mafia (or you'd say the Leones.) Using a PC editor such as Paul Breeuwsma's can enable the Mafia to any zone you choose. I chose to place them around Caligula's to see what they looked like, etc... Their desert eagles destroy cars fast. Not as fast as their shotguns did in III.

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well more of a secret I guess, if u browse around the files u will find some beta races with maps...

 

heres a side by side comparison of the beta and final maps done by me tounge.gif

 

http://i.imgur.com/xDMxhZo.jpg

 

 

Please … When POSTING PICTURES try to select 640x480 or smaller for “message boards and forums.” so as to not stretch the forum frame. Or just use a link.

Wallpaper sized pictures aren’t kind to the forum frame.

 

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I put a beta map of SA a while ago - enjoy wink.gif I used the maps from the driving school and races start points.

 

Click on the image on the next page to enlarge!

 

There are quite a lot of changes between this and the final map - one of them being a river by the Palamino Creek.

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defjam1234

Everybody i have found some very rare pictures and the strategy and i'm going show it now

 

Beta pictures in official strategy to gta san andreas

 

There is a HQ version and a normal version of the strategy magazine just download it

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EDIT: << Merged 'new' topic into existing topic >>

 

Anyone know anything about the unused gangs?

 

Judging by Action Replay codes I found, Rockstar intended for there to be 10 gangs in San Andreas (like in Vice City) and for some reason, they erased gang #9 & #10. What were their intentions: Bikers or another gang from different a game? These gangs look identical to the Aztecas, & drive Sentinels. I doubt they wanted 3 gangs to look like the Aztecas. These gangs don't appear without PS2 cheat devices or PC mods.

 

Somehow when I say "unused", people think I mean the mafia, but the mafia (gang#6) is not unused because they have territory in Bayside Marina. If you get them as your least favorite gang it will say "Sindaccos". Again, the gangs I'm referring to look like the Aztecas, drive Sentinels and have no default territory unless using cheat devices (PS2) or mods (PC). This doesn't remotely describe the mafia.

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0909090

I'm playing on PC and I never had Sindaccos in Bayside Marina. And I have played this game a lot. How did you get them to appear?

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GTASAddict

Come to think of it, I think the Sindaccos spawning in Bayside was due to a glitch. If you fly off the map for too long (PS2 only, I think), glitched territories will arise. This must have occurred after Freefall or ST. Marks Bistro. Regardless, the Sindacco mafia isn't one of the two gangs I'm referring to.

 

 

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EDIT: << Merged 'new' topic of Beta information to existing topic >>

 

Everyone knows about the Black drug dealer , the White hooded drug dealer , the Biker drug dealer , but very few seem to know about the unused Hispanic drug dealer . I found him when toying with Action Replay codes. Why was he erased from the game? Was there originally supposed to be a unique dealer for each gang?

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EDIT: << Merged 'new' topic of Beta information to existing topic >>

 

Everyone knows about the Black drug dealer , the White hooded drug dealer , the Biker drug dealer , but very few seem to know about the unused Hispanic drug dealer . I found him when toying with Action Replay codes. Why was he erased from the game? Was there originally supposed to be a unique dealer for each gang?

 

HAHA, I listened to the "unused Hispanic drug dealer" and it's incredibly funny.

 

0:44: I'm like a public service, nobody can take me out

0:53: I really hate these drug addict fools, I want some better customers

1:10: Give me a break man, I got a wife and thirteen kids

3:23: If you got a habit I'm your priest lol.gif

 

Quotes from the video comments (currently top comments):

 

Uploader VeronicaBlush says:

 

. and you were going to be able to purchase drugs from them that had the same effect as in VC

 

What happened when you purchased drugs in VC?

 

She also says that you have to change some flags in order to get the bike drug dealer, but I'm pretty sure I've met him in Los Santos and I have never changed flags.

 

 

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3:48-5:50- "Why are all my customers such losers?"

2:28-2:30: "Buy something or get lost, punk!"

2:32-2:33 "Hope you got a good dentist."

 

The Hispanic dealer had the most entertaining quotes of all the dealers making it a shame he was deleted. Luckily, I found ways to reintroduce him into the game.

 

As for the video makers comments: There were pills throughout Vice City that when picked up, temporarily increased your speed (plus strength & firepower) while slowing down game time as well as pedestrians. It's possible to introduce these drugs in San Andreas. However, the rules forbid me to discuss this (and reintroducing the Hispanic dealer) any further outside the "Cheats & Tricks" section because it requires PS2 cheat device (Codebreaker, Gameshark, Action Replay Max) codes. I don't know how to implement these things on PC, XBOX or PS3. Veronica never said what console she uses.

 

The thing with the Biker dealer is there is a regular pedestrian that uses his model, so it's very likely you encountered a regular biker instead of the biker dealer. If he doesn't talk to CJ, cross his arms, carry a gun & lots of cash, he's a regular pedestrian and not a dealer. I only managed to get him to appear in San Fierro; the Black dealer anywhere, the White dealer in Los Santos and the Hispanic dealer in Las Venturas.

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OG Viking

 

As for the video makers comments: There were pills throughout Vice City that when picked up, temporarily increased your speed (plus strength & firepower) while slowing down game time as well as pedestrians. It's possible to introduce these drugs in San Andreas. However, the rules forbid me to discuss this (and reintroducing the Hispanic dealer) any further outside the "Cheats & Tricks" section because it requires PS2 cheat device codes. I don't know how to implement these things on PC, XBOX or PS3. Veronica never said what console she uses.

 

I think I know what you mean! There's a cheat code for San Andreas that have a similar effect, but it has a reference to adrenaline, not drugs. It makes CJ very strong and everything is slow.

 

Strange that it's against the rules to discuss something that is a feature in a GTA game? It's almost too silly to be true. mercie_blink.gif

 

 

 

 

The thing with the Biker dealer is there is a regular pedestrian that uses his model, so it's very likely you encountered a regular biker instead of the biker dealer. If he doesn't talk to CJ, cross his arms, carry a gun & lots of cash, he's a regular pedestrian and not a dealer. I only managed to get him to appear in San Fierro; the Black dealer anywhere, the White dealer in Los Santos and the Hispanic dealer in Las Venturas.

 

Could it be that I met him as a drug dealer after using cheat codes? I don't have a PS2 cheat device, I just use button codes. I have a memory of him standing on the sidewalk, crossed arms and acting like a dealer. It's also possible that I saw it on Youtube.

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GTASAddict

"Adrenaline effects" is the proper term. What you describe correlates with this, so yeah, you know what I mean.

 

Silly, yes, but I got yelled at for it, so it's true.

 

Yeah, that's possible. The Biker dealer is supposed to only appear in Fierro, he might appear elsewhere with codes, glitches, bugs and etc. I've never managed to make it happen though.

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GTASAddict

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Tampering with Skiller's pedestrian code digits brought me to this discovery.

 

 

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Tampering with Skiller's pedestrian code digits brought me to this discovery.

Hey gtasaAddict you seem good at searching in the game files,and i am interested in it two.Can you search for any left overs of taking dope from dealers?and is it simple to bring back this feature?(I heard enough remain in the game files to bring it back...)

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GTASAddict

I derived my coding search expertise from Skills, Skiller, OrionSR & Ric-013. It's nice to encounter others who share my interests.

 

To answer your question, yes, though not exactly. There is a code that makes the beta/unused dope spawn in Grove Street, but it's only for the PS2. If you play on PS2 and have a Gameshark, Codebreaker or Action Replay Max, I can help you. I don't know how to bring back the feature of taking dope from the dealers, however.

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I derived my coding search expertise from Skills, Skiller, OrionSR & Ric-013. It's nice to encounter others who share my interests.

 

To answer your question, yes, though not exactly. There is a code that makes the beta/unused dope spawn in Grove Street, but it's only for the PS2. If you play on PS2 and have a Gameshark, Codebreaker or Action Replay Max, I can help you. I don't know how to bring back the feature of taking dope from the dealers, however.

Oh ok,thanks anyway!

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GTASAddict

user posted image

 

Who's this?

 

 

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Who's this?

That's a beta mission,along side a beta grove member.You can download him as a mod at gta garage (gta sa beta ped pack) icon14.gif

Notice cj's model looks different.

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Thanks for the response; much appreciated. I forgot to mention I found it on Skiller & Edison Carters database. Unfortunately, (for me) they didn't list the code values for the PS2.

 

Here's another interesting discovery:

 

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Bikini wearing hotdog venders.

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