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Why do people think that rich people who don't actively help others (the poor and those in need in general) are bad?

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god has given wealth and many other things not only to the rich but also for the needy

 

so they should be helped

Yeah, right. If a god actually exists and helps people why doesn't he just help the poor directly? Why does he let so many people starve and die? Because he doesn't exist or give a sh*t.

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Why do people think that rich people who don't actively help others (the poor and those in need in general) are bad?

The reason they hate the rich is the same reason they hate the artist or the writer, they want everyone dragged down to their level of mediocrity.

 

Don't be mistaken, given half a chance these same people would chose to live that very same life of excess and decadence. Of course, they lack the will to actually earn such a life, so they prattle on about fairness hoping it conceals their true greed and ambition.

 

Yep, behind every armchair revolutionary is a little Napoleon just dying to get out.

Haha very true.

The rich give to the poor all the time, a lot of them donate massive chunks of their money to charities, i heard that Bill Gates used to donate 75% of his earnings to charity after he became rich, if that's not helping the poor, well i don't f*cking know what is.

Besides most poor people are poor for a reason, yes there are many in tough circumstances that genuinely cannot help themselves and have done nothing to get themselves there, but most have kids too early because they didn't wear a condom and then get stuck, or decide that a 9-5 job with little security is better than actually putting the work in and getting somewhere.

 

Typhus is 100% right, there is a tall poppy syndrome amongst a lot of the populace, go to youtube, look at the people that hate for absolutely no reason at all, an even better example is how so many hate the fame of Bieber and One Direction, not liking their music is fine, but insulting them at all times for no other reason than the fact that they are more successful than you is stupid, i actually think Justin Bieber is quite talented, he can dance fairly well and has a good voice, and some of his later songs are actually improving a bit from his corny love songs that he made in the early days, One Direction is not as talented in my eyes and i don't like their music, but i can appreciate that they have something that someone enjoys and they have managed to exploit that and make some money.

I would happily turn into a Justin Bieber if it meant i had endless pussy available and loads of money + talent even if it meant haters, people that hate are jealous and wouldn't be worth knowing anyway so i could handle it. Hell I would get a team of writers to make me a hilarious song insulting the f*ck out haters.

 

Ah since i am already posting i might as well re-ask my question.

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On the subject of Chemistry, i was wondering, with Oxidation states is a free atom such as Oxygen in it's usual diatomic form assigned an Oxidation state of 0? Then when it is in a compound it is assigned an Oxidation state of -2?

 

I always get confused by this.

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Ah since i am already posting i might as well re-ask my question.

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On the subject of Chemistry, i was wondering, with Oxidation states is a free atom such as Oxygen in it's usual diatomic form assigned an Oxidation state of 0? Then when it is in a compound it is assigned an Oxidation state of -2?

 

I always get confused by this.

You are correct. The same is true for a few other gases that also come in "pairs", such as hydrogen.

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Ah since i am already posting i might as well re-ask my question.

h

On the subject of Chemistry, i was wondering, with Oxidation states is a free atom such as Oxygen in it's usual diatomic form assigned an Oxidation state of 0? Then when it is in a compound it is assigned an Oxidation state of -2?

 

I always get confused by this.

You are correct. The same is true for a few other gases that also come in "pairs", such as hydrogen.

So H2 has an Oxidation state of 0 unless it is in a compound such as H20?

Correct?

 

Just to be totally clear on it.

Thanks by the way.

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Ah since i am already posting i might as well re-ask my question.

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On the subject of Chemistry, i was wondering, with Oxidation states is a free atom such as Oxygen in it's usual diatomic form assigned an Oxidation state of 0? Then when it is in a compound it is assigned an Oxidation state of -2?

 

I always get confused by this.

You are correct. The same is true for a few other gases that also come in "pairs", such as hydrogen.

So H2 has an Oxidation state of 0 unless it is in a compound such as H20?

Correct?

 

Just to be totally clear on it.

Thanks by the way.

Yep, although while oxygen always has -II, hydrogen always has +I in compounds.

 

Other gases like I2 will also have 0 in their usual diatomic forms although there are no rules for what oxidation state they will have if they are in compounds.

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Ah since i am already posting i might as well re-ask my question.

h

On the subject of Chemistry, i was wondering, with Oxidation states is a free atom such as Oxygen in it's usual diatomic form assigned an Oxidation state of 0? Then when it is in a compound it is assigned an Oxidation state of -2?

 

I always get confused by this.

You are correct. The same is true for a few other gases that also come in "pairs", such as hydrogen.

So H2 has an Oxidation state of 0 unless it is in a compound such as H20?

Correct?

 

Just to be totally clear on it.

Thanks by the way.

Yep, although while oxygen always has -II, hydrogen always has +I in compounds.

 

Other gases like I2 will also have 0 although there are no rules for what oxygen state they will have if they are in compounds.

Yep alright i got you.

I know how to calculate the oxidation state in compounds fine, that's just simple math, i just wasn't sure on lone elements unbonded to other elements.

Thanks again.

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How come some times when I urinate it shoots off in two streams?

 

Scares me every f*cking time this happens!

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Scares me every <> time this happens!

The openning is 'glued' together. The stream washes away the 'blockage'.

Massage the tip before you start or do it sitting down.

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Scares me every <> time this happens!

The openning is 'glued' together. The stream washes away the 'blockage'.

Massage the tip before you start or do it sitting down.

lol massage the tip.

 

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Is it possible to catch an itchy ear from a dog? One of my dogs has been scratching his ear alot lately (problem with the dog has been solved now, though. The dog always had an ear problem) and now my ear has been itchy.

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Is it possible to catch an itchy ear from a dog? One of my dogs has been scratching his ear alot lately (problem with the dog has been solved now, though. The dog always had an ear problem) and now my ear has been itchy.

Ear Mites are the usual cause.

You might need medication to clear it up.

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There's a huge difference between DoD unspecified expenditure (very little of which is "black operations", though undoubtedly a proportion of it is) and manned space travel. Where expenditure on research, development and technology is obfuscated, it is done generally to hide technological developments from foreign powers such as China and Russia who have spent the best part of the last century stealing military secrets from the US to make themselves more competitive, first strategically and then economically.

 

OH WOW. I DID NOT KNOW THAT. turn.gif I THOUGHT WE DID THAT TO BE DICKS AND NOT LET CHINA AND RUSSIA PLAY WITH US. SMH

 

 

If you could reasonably explain why NASA, which despite being a government agency is subject to far greater degrees of public oversight and transparency than the security apparatus and the military, would intentionally hide the launch of a truly ground-breaking manned mission to another planet,

 

Let me go ask them real quick for ya.

 

 

The fact that a liquid methane powered rocket may be viable for a very short unmanned celestial mission is not evidence that the same methodology could be used for a far larger manned one. Also, as far as I can tell, the liquid methane portion of Morpheus is designed only for use in space suicidal.gif , meaning you'd still need a substantial conventional rocket to get the payload through the atmosphere.

 

 

 

Consider the following: Liquid hydrogen fuel used by the space shuttle must be stored at a temperature of -252.9°C—only about 20 degrees above absolute zero! Liquid methane, on the other hand, can be stored at the much warmer and more convenient temperature of -161.6°C. That means methane fuel tanks wouldn't need as much insulation, making them lighter and thus cheaper to launch. The tanks could also be smaller, because liquid methane is denser than liquid hydrogen, again saving money and weight.

 

 

Patrick Barry | Production Editor: Dr. Tony Phillips | Credit: [email protected]

 

"In a manned mission to Mars, the astronauts may melt the ice in the ice caps or permafrost, separate out the oxygen and hydrogen from the water, and use them for rocket fuel. If methane exists in large quantities, it might be mixed with other volatile gases to make rocket fuel, thereby saving a considerable amount of money"

 

Michio Kaku, professor of theoretical physics at the City University of New York, is the author of Physics of the Impossible: A Scientific Exploration into the World of Phases, Teleportation and Time Travel.

 

 

 

you still have not produced anything which would indicate that a spacecraft twice the size of the ISS could be built, completely silently, in space, without anyone noticing, given that they started constructing the ISS in 1998 and it still isn't finished.

 

When I work go to work for NASA Ill be sure to go get that dossier for you. But the Multi-Purpose Crew Vehicle is the most likely candidate.

 

 

My point is that your assertion that a spacecraft large enough to fly to Mars and return to earth has been constructed, in orbit, secretly, is utterly absurd.

 

 

WHERE DID I STATE SUCH A THING??? IF I DID I WILL NEVER DEBATE YOU AGAIN.!!!

 

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You really don't seem to have read anything I posted.

 

 

I can say that same thing for you.

 

 

as you seem to accept that the construction and launching of one on earth could not go unnoticed, especially if it was done by the United States)

 

Point proven. I said it is possible to have smaller launches and your telling me basically you KNOW everything my government sends objects to space, including whats on board and its purpose?

 

 

We have enough trouble simply bolting together bits of a space station, let alone supplying and fuelling the tens if not hundreds of tonnes of volatile chemicals in situ

 

Trouble? When did "Trouble" ever stop a quite possible manned space travel to another celestial body. Apollo 11 took place in 1969 and people still seem to debate that we ever went.

 

 

Im stating that is possible, not that it happened. As I said before, quote me where I said that, NASA and em traveled to Mars please.

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Scares me every <> time this happens!

The openning is 'glued' together. The stream washes away the 'blockage'.

Massage the tip before you start or do it sitting down.

haha, thanks! I knew it had something to do with blockage! icon14.gif

 

cabbage in my muff!

 

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Not sure the right place but still....

 

When are the annual 2012 awards gonna be conducted?Any Info? smile.gif

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Is it possible to catch an itchy ear from a dog? One of my dogs has been scratching his ear alot lately (problem with the dog has been solved now, though. The dog always had an ear problem) and now my ear has been itchy.

Ear Mites are the usual cause.

You might need medication to clear it up.

Doesn't matter anymore, ear is no longer itchy.

Thanks for the reply, though. colgate.gif

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Hi friends i have a strange question about English. I'm B1-B2 level speaker by the way. How can i speak english with spanish accent. Or Russian accent. They are very cool and very fluently. I want to speak like that accents. Can you help me about this subject. I watched this videos but i didn't do it.

 

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Let me go ask them real quick for ya.

How helpful of you. No reasonable response, no apparent justification for you initial statement, so I'll choose to disregard it until such a time as you can reasonably explain why there would be an incentive to disguise not only a manned mission to Mars but all the valuable technological advancement, engineering prowess and international collaboration that such a mission would require. If you are going to invent a conspiracy, at least invent one that makes some kind of logical sense.

 

 

"In a manned mission to Mars, the astronauts may melt the ice in the ice caps or permafrost, separate out the oxygen and hydrogen from the water, and use them for rocket fuel. If methane exists in large quantities, it might be mixed with other volatile gases to make rocket fuel, thereby saving a considerable amount of money"

 

Michio Kaku, professor of theoretical physics at the City University of New York, is the author of Physics of the Impossible: A Scientific Exploration into the World of Phases, Teleportation and Time Travel.

As usual, you fall into the trap of quote-mining, apparently oblivious to the fact that I can quite easily look up quotes in their original context. Here's the source for this quote. I've highlighted the important bit you obviously chose to exclude, presumably as it largely contradicts your statements:

 

 

In the long term, even if the methane gas has been found to be of inorganic origin, there are other possible uses for it. First, it might be used to create rocket fuel. In a manned mission to Mars, the astronauts may melt the ice in the ice caps or permafrost, separate out the oxygen and hydrogen from the water, and use them for rocket fuel. If methane exists in large quantities, it might be mixed with other volatile gases to make rocket fuel, thereby saving a considerable amount of money (since it may cost upwards of several hundred thousand dollars or more to put a pound of anything on the surface of Mars).

Do you want to tell me why you (presumably intentionally) left that very important defining statement out of your original quote? Was it, perhaps, to insinuate that this could be done in the short term (I.E over the duration of a single mission), when the esteemed Dr. Kaku's own statements are entirely to the contrary?

 

 

But the Multi-Purpose Crew Vehicle is the most likely candidate.

Perfectly possible, but you appear to be failing to see the point I'm making. You claimed that it would be "very possible", in the context of two videos you though could be showing a space flight to Mars, for such a vehicle to currently exist and to have been used for such a flight. I was contesting the validity of that statement.

 

 

WHERE DID I STATE SUCH A THING??? IF I DID I WILL NEVER DEBATE YOU AGAIN.!!!

Quoted verbatim:

 

 

As for a spacecraft large enough for the man mission. Quite possible. There wouldn't be one significant launch if the whole point was secrecy. It would be numerous smaller launches that all contain parts that will be used in the journey. I wouldn't put it past NASA and other privately founded companies joint attempt to be the first ones on orbit.

To me, and given the fact the crux of your theory is a discussion of the possible validity of videos claiming to show a manned space-flight to Mars, your quite clearly insinuate that you believe it is at least possible that such a mission could have taken place. You seem to defend the view that these videos could be genuine (despite the fact you asked the question of whether they are; the fact that you appear to suggest that such a programme could have been carried out in secret and entirely undetected) and in order for the videos to be valid, in your opinion, such a secret assembly and launch could take place.

 

I debate whether, at this moment in time, a manned interplanetary launch is even technically possible, let alone holds a reasonable chance of success. Such a craft could not, in my opinion, be constructed in secretly in space as you insinuate, nor would it be given the national pride and positive effect that seems to surround all spaced exploration, manned or unmanned, successful or unsuccessful.

 

 

Point proven. I said it is possible to have smaller launches and your telling me basically you KNOW everything my government sends objects to space, including whats on board and its purpose?

Not at all. There are very few launches made with a payload of over 2000 or so kg, purely as there are only a limited selection of rockets that can take large (lets say 20+ tonne) payloads. Given your own claim that such a craft would be twice the size of the 450 tonne ISS, the number of launches required to construct such a spacecraft would be truly enormous. That's not me saying that I know what every object sent into space is, but it is also worth noting that the US doesn't really have any current high-payload space launch capacity, let alone manned space launch capacity, of its own. So I question where these hypothetical components of such a craft would be coming from given that the launches of things like the Proton-series rockets have sites entirely dedicated to their payloads.

 

Tell you what, if you can find me 900 tonnes worth of payload from Proton or other large-capacity rocket launches that cannot be accounted for in the last, oh, lets say 10 years, then I'll entertain the reasonable possibility of such a program existing.

 

 

Trouble? When did "Trouble" ever stop a quite possible manned space travel to another celestial body. Apollo 11 took place in 1969 and people still seem to debate that we ever went.

The 1960s was a time when exploration came before safety. Nowadays the opposite is true, in the US at least. The debate about the veracity of the moon landings is hardly an academic one, and is largely reserved, like most conspiracies, for a fringe group with little scientific support.

 

 

Im stating that is possible, not that it happened. As I said before, quote me where I said that, NASA and em traveled to Mars please.

I question whether it is possible- certainly given the apparent secrecy in which it would be done. You haven't categorically stated that you believe that such a programme has or does exist, but you have insinuated so and your attempts to contradict various points I have made regarding the complete infeasibility of such an idea seems to suggest that you do believe it.

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Hi friends i have a strange question about English. I'm B1-B2 level speaker by the way. How can i speak english with spanish accent. Or Russian accent. They are very cool and very fluently. I want to speak like that accents. Can you help me about this subject. I watched this videos but i didn't do it.

 

Spanish Accent

 

 

Russian Accent

 

A main part of being able to do accents other than your own is to be a fluent speaker. If you're not, you'd have to be Spanish or Russian yourself.

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Please Answer As Soon As Possible, Thanks!

 

I'm thinking about ordering the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 off ebay from the USA. Now I live in Ireland, so when I get the SIM card, will it be an american number. If it is, can I change it here to an Irish number? Or do I just buy a new SIM card?

 

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How helpful of you. No reasonable response, no apparent justification for you initial statement, so I'll choose to disregard it until such a time as you can reasonably explain why there would be an incentive to disguise not only a manned mission to Mars but all the valuable technological advancement, engineering prowess and international collaboration that such a mission would require. If you are going to invent a conspiracy, at least invent one that makes some kind of logical sense.

 

 

The answer to your question.

 

Where expenditure on research, development and technology is obfuscated, it is done generally to hide technological developments from foreign powers such as China and Russia who have spent the best part of the last century stealing military secrets from the US to make themselves more competitive, first strategically and then economically.

 

Also,

What conspiracy did I invent? since you so cold heartily believe that some short of plausible deniability is going in this discussion and the current affairs of technological advancements the American Government discovers is printed front page on NY Times.

 

I'm still waiting on that message from NASA as well, that you do seem believe I have the answers for- even though you took that completely out of context like everything else just to fund your own enticement.

 

Also, your spewing unverified, unofficial information that you seem to believe in your own mind I stated. Where is such a claim that I stated that the US traveled to Mars? Until you find a direct quote from me, everything you stated is simply your own illogical fallacy of unnecessary assertions

that you simply use to fill space even though its been proven false by people of prestige positions at NASA.

 

here example.

 

 

The fact that a liquid methane powered rocket may be viable for a very short unmanned celestial mission is not evidence that the same methodology could be used for a far larger manned one.

 

"The main engine, built and fired by the NASA contractor team Alliant Techsystems/XCOR Aerospace, is still in an early stage of development and isn't ready for space. But if the technology proves itself, methane engines like this one could eventually be key to deep space exploration.

 

Methane (CH4), the principal component of natural gas, is abundant in the outer solar system. It can be harvested from Mars, Titan, Jupiter, and many other planets and moons. With fuel waiting at the destination, a rocket leaving Earth wouldn't have to carry so much propellant, reducing the cost of a mission.

 

Perhaps surprisingly, this flammable gas has never powered a spacecraft before. But now scientists and engineers at Marshall, the Glenn Research Center and the Johnson Space Center are developing LOX/methane engines as an option for the future. "Several efforts are underway, including a rival LOX/methane main engine design by KT Engineering," notes Tramel.

 

"This work is funded by NASA's Exploration Technology Development Program and shows how technologies being developed for exploration may one day assist in future science missions," says Mark D. Klem, manager of the Propulsion and Cryogenics Advanced Development Project at the Glenn Research Center.

 

From 2007 after the successful test on the engines. Proves its very much so possible and practiced to potentially use this method.

 

 

 

 

Do you want to tell me why you (presumably intentionally) left that very important defining statement out of your original quote? Was it, perhaps, to insinuate that this could be done in the short term (I.E over the duration of a single mission), when the esteemed Dr. Kaku's own statements are entirely to the contrary?

 

Assuming now? Well damn, the kettle calling the pot black. Where did I state this can be done in short term?

 

 

Perfectly possible, but you appear to be failing to see the point I'm making. You claimed that it would be "very possible", in the context of two videos you though could be showing a space flight to Mars, for such a vehicle to currently exist and to have been used for such a flight. I was contesting the validity of that statement.

 

The video was nothing more than a framework for the idea that deep exploration missions are possible i which I back up wit direct quotes of how i would be accomplished by NASA and Co and can go on without notice if done correctly. I never claim that IS HAS HAPPENED, just that it is plausibility that if the USA government wanted to travel to Mars unannounced, they would attempt-even if it weren't successful.

 

 

 

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As for a spacecraft large enough for the man mission. Quite possible. There wouldn't be one significant launch if the whole point was secrecy. It would be numerous smaller launches that all contain parts that will be used in the journey. I wouldn't put it past NASA and other privately founded companies joint attempt to be the first ones on orbit.

 

To me, and given the fact the crux of your theory is a discussion of the possible validity of videos claiming to show a manned space-flight to Mars, your quite clearly insinuate that you believe it is at least possible that such a mission could have taken place. You seem to defend the view that these videos could be genuine (despite the fact you asked the question of whether they are; the fact that you appear to suggest that such a programme could have been carried out in secret and entirely undetected) and in order for the videos to be valid, in your opinion, such a secret assembly and launch could take place.

 

 

Oh now its a theory. Assuming again? Where did I state the videos were fact? Im not defending the validity of the videos anymore than you are saying that the a secret programme would be a nation booster, in thus defeating the whole purpose of it being hidden.

 

 

I debate whether, at this moment in time, a manned interplanetary launch is even technically possible, let alone holds a reasonable chance of success. Such a craft could not, in my opinion, be constructed in secretly in space as you insinuate, nor would it be given the national pride and positive effect that seems to surround all spaced exploration, manned or unmanned, successful or unsuccessful.

 

 

Well here is where we agree to disagree. Improbable as it may sound, NASA knows whats needed for their trip to Mars planned in 2030 I think. That's a modest time frame, given the fact we landed on the moon decades ago with technology that the average cell phone in today's circa can out compute.

 

 

That's not me saying that I know what every object sent into space is, but it is also worth noting that the US doesn't really have any current high-payload space launch capacity, let alone manned space launch capacity, of its own. So I question where these hypothetical components of such a craft would be coming from given that the launches of things like the Proton-series rockets have sites entirely dedicated to their payloads.

 

Again, with assumptions you know nothing about this programme nor its budget, capabilities or years its been in development. Please don't tell me you know more about my own governments technological capabilities than its own personnel at NASA, Air Force or Black Budgeted entities.?

 

 

 

Tell you what, if you can find me 900 tonnes worth of payload from Proton or other large-capacity rocket launches that cannot be accounted for in the last, oh, lets say 10 years, then I'll entertain the reasonable possibility of such a program existing.

 

I find this remarkably impractical that you would even make a statement such as this and expect me to respond serious to you, given that the ideal of such programme is theoretical and hidden. How will I know the apparatus of such a feat, given the

 

 

 

I question whether it is possible- certainly given the apparent secrecy in which it would be done. You haven't categorically stated that you believe that such a programme has or does exist, but you have insinuated so and your attempts to contradict various points I have made regarding the complete infeasibility of such an idea seems to suggest that you do believe it.

 

 

I feel like you just like to hear the sounds you keyboard makes when you type.

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Where do you get the SIM card from? USA? If so, it will probably not work in your country unless you have the same network carrier.

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Where do you get the SIM card from? USA? If so, it will probably not work in your country unless you have the same network carrier.

Yeah I get the SIM card from USA, and the phone is shipped over to Ireland. Obviously it will be a US network provider, but can I just buy a SIM here in Ireland and put it in the phone. Will it work then by doing that??

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You would have to check that with the seller or check the description of the sale. It could be network locked but if they ship worldwide it's probably not.

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You would have to check that with the seller or check the description of the sale. It could be network locked but if they ship worldwide it's probably not.

Yeah, I was thinking that too. I'll have to try contact them somehow, thanks anyway mate icon14.gif

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Who is this guy from Ghostbusters, i tried finding out but i failed and it's faster to ask someone here, reason i ask is because in this shot he looks quite like a young Harrison Ford.

 

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Who is this guy from Ghostbusters,

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IM_YOUR_GOD, there are a bunch of problems with what you suggest. All launches are closely watched by China and Russia. After all, there are many things you can put in orbit that are a national security threat. Each launch is tracked. Objects in orbit are often verified through telescope. In terms of fuel, it realy has to be cryogenic LH2 and LOX combo. Fuel would have to be brought with for return trip. Launch of return vehicle from Mars is efectively impossible. An Apollo-like randevu is necessary, so you cannot replenish fuel on Mars. Not with mission of this scale. That gives you a huge delta-v, and a rocket size of Saturn V to be built in orbit. You absolutly cannot do something like that in secret. That is a statement of fact.

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Agreed, K2.

 

You made it sound better somehow by mentioning the Saturn V, even though that project is over 40 years old. Thanks. I'm kinda drunk right now, and I really got bored easy with this subject.

 

Quick question, are you suggesting China and Russian knows something about our government in which its citizens knows not? Given the amount of resources each nation contributes to the space programme, whose to say they are not the ones in the know. Take into account how much of military bully my nation is when it comes to it arms and intelligence.

 

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Quick question, are you suggesting China and Russian knows something about our government in which its citizens knows not?

Put simply, yes. That's what espionage is- the theft of secret information. Something Russia have, in intelligence terms, down to a T. They aren't referred to as a counter-intelligence state for nothing.

 

The same principles that are applied to theft of intellectual property can be applied to theft of national secrets. Both are by definition secretive and valuable to protect. Both are targets for foreign state-sponsored actors. Neither can ever be completely protected.

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