Possible Graphics

[skillz7855]

I think you can expect these kind of graphics on this gen consoles. Just look at battle field 3

[StellarFish20]

The consoles are holding the game developers back. They could do so much cool stuff if the technology allowed them to. I actually hope the next generation of consoles will arrive soon and that they push the limit as much as they can, because I want my games to look this good!

I agree!

[Anton4291]

I think you can expect these kind of graphics on this gen consoles. Just look at battle field 3

I am pretty sure that all the trailers/gameplay footage that have been released for Battlefield 3 were all played on PC. I would also assume that they were the maximum graphics, something the PS3 and XBox 360 will not be able to achieve at a stable frame rate.

[Zee]

 

Graphics could possibly look almost as good as this on this generation of consoles. Just don't expect a high resolution.

I really doubt that. The XBox360 is using DirectX 9, and these are the specs of its GPU:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenos_%28graphics_chip%29

 

It's old technology, and granted Id are doing amazing things with Rage but I don't think even John Carmack could make this happen in a GTA game with that hardware, even at a lower resolution.

 

No doubt the next gen machines will be all 8-core craziness, SSDs and muliple high-powered GPUs. People definitely need to dial down their expectations of GTA V's improvements, and remember that GTA was pretty nice anyway. There are lots of improvements that can be made just with more skillful modelling and animations, without having to worry too much about these weather and reflection effects. I'm sure Rockstar's still going to have some nice surprises for us with refinements to the engine code, but we'd be wise to hope for higher framerates and draw distances than to dream of resource-eating effects.

'Dial Down' our expectations for GTA5? This board has completely gone off the sycophantic deep end. IT HAS TAKEN THEM OVER FIVE YEARS. GTA5 bertter be a HELL of a lot beter than gta4 (not evenessaciarliy graphics, but things to do in the game atleast) or im done with the GTA series. R* needs to prove theyve been actually working on a game instead of playing golf for the past FIVE YEARS

[TreyCrll]

DAYUM! Those graphics are insane. That might actually one-up SR3, but it'll be close. If thats only a mod for IV then imagine what corporate money can buy for a new game.

[JZersche]

Not even that great.. I've seen ENB settings blow this out of the water..

 

Credit for pic: Stolen_X

 

 

ENB..

Edited July 8, 2011 by ToxicNinjaX

[Avskygod0]

Consoles suck.

[d0mm2k8]

I think you can expect these kind of graphics on this gen consoles. Just look at battle field 3

There is no where near enough power on the current consoles.

[Gangsta-NL]

Those screens are impossible for 360&PS3.

 

I'd say a slightly better Red Dead Redemption graphics.

 

But I really hope R* will use more ''color'' into the next installment... GTA 4 looked grey sometimes.

[raindrops]

I think you can expect these kind of graphics on this gen consoles. Just look at battle field 3

98% of the BF3 footage you have seen is all on PC

[d0mm2k8]

But I really hope R* will use more ''color'' into the next installment... GTA 4 looked grey sometimes.

You could turn up the saturation at any time you know.

[Patchey]

 

Not even that great.. I've seen ENB settings blow this out of the water..

 

Credit for pic: Stolen_X

 

 

ENB..

Thats gorgeous.

 

[Dpeasant3]

Lol, hows that possible that you guys didnt even know about ENB for , like, 2 years? And its all been posted here, on these forums:

 

 

 

 

 

THIS

http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=480297&st=0

[gta_fan28]

Lol, hows that possible that you guys didnt even know about ENB for , like, 2 years? And its all been posted here, on these forums:

 

 

 

 

 

THIS

http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=480297&st=0

Wow amazing graphics f*cking superb.. Hope GTAV has the same graphics.

[StellarFish20]

Lol, hows that possible that you guys didnt even know about ENB for , like, 2 years? And its all been posted here, on these forums:

 

 

 

 

 

THIS

http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=480297&st=0

Wow amazing graphics f*cking superb.. Hope GTAV has the same graphics.

Woah! They are pretty amazing! But i highly doubt a console could manage them graphics

[Spaghetti Cat]

Consoles suck.

Try not to strain yourself to hard when you come up with brilliant post like this in the future eh?

 

fing tard

[ahash08]

Nice find With that sweet lounge / trip hop / slow dance / house music from Jakatta that clip reminds me to that great movie Vanilla Sky Which was also in New York. Times Square / Square Junction in GTA was closed for the shoot of the movie. So it's all real. No CGI.

 

I also have high doubts this generation consoles can perform such beautiful graphics. But you never know Maybe slightly less? RDR did look better then GTA IV. But indeed no buildings with reflections, heavy traffic with a wide variety of cars and bikes(also with reflections), pedestrians and such. So a lot easier to render. We will see. And the next gen Xbox 720 and PS4 will definitely be able to produce these kind of visuals

 

I had a similar find of a machinima movie Hard Charger : Wide Open movie with some highly improved textures. But this looks even more AMAZING

 

Here's the clip from the OP

 

 

 

Here's Hard Charger : Wide Open machinima

 

 

 

And finally here is a music clip from the brilliant movie Vanilla Sky including shots from Times Square where Tom Cruise is wondering what the hell is happening

 

 

cool videos

[d0mm2k8]

 

Woah! They are pretty amazing! But i highly doubt a console could manage them graphics

They make even my PC lag when I use dpeasant's graphic settings, so a console doesn't have a chance

[Jakee.]

Seriously, this is what you all need to remember.

 

360 & PS3 are nearing the end of their lifes, its true. I actually believe L.A Noire maxxed out what the 360 was capable of at least, as from my experience the Xbox found it hard to keep up at times during the game, sometimes bursting into a lag-sesh.

 

Now, if you are like me, and you can't afford to buy a Gaming Rig, then we chose consoles. We chose them because they are cheaper and a lot more convenient.

 

Anyone would be idiots to think they can make GTA IV's graphics much better than they are now for current gen consoles, I am not even joking.

 

Tone down with what your hoping for V, because I believe you will all be pretty shocked when you find the graphics will be of pretty much the same quality. L.A Noire graphics were not all that great, the only reason we are "tricked" into thinking they are is because of this MotionScan nonsense, which to me I see no difference between a GTA Character and MotionScan character apart from a few small expressions made on the faces.

 

All I want, is for the graphics to be on par with slightly better than GTA IV, I will then be happy. Because heck, its a GTA game and this is the franchise I have grew old to love.

 

If you want amazing graphics, you need to be prepared to fork out quite a bit to max out a big game like GTA on full graphics.

 

 

[Secura]

I wish people on the PC would stop being so idiotic.(I to own a high end PC modelled off of alienware made for me by my uncle) Why do automaticaly assume that if the 360 can't run something no other console can. I mean come on, PS3 runs LA Noire like a dream Crysis 2 looks fantastic (Yes it looks better on PC but do you know how damn long it took me to afford a PC to run it on max settings!) Honestly what the PS3 can run is still amazing. How many discs did LA Noire take on 360? Now how many did it take on PS3.

 

 

I also wonder why 360 exclusives never look as pretty as there Rival PS3 counter parts. GOW3 for example is close to the Witcher 2 in terms of graphical apperance. So why is that others in this highly intellecutal community see fit to diss one console and think it applies to all of them. (Ok i know the WII is dead but still there is the Wii 2 which is supposed to be on PS3 level perhaps higher on tech, yes it lacks blu-ray but it's still quite a powerful machine from what I've been told) With that said i don't think the PS3 would have an easy time running that hell if it could get past 10 frames per second it would be a mircale. However i have seen CRYSIS 2 on that console and it's not to shabby.

 

 

 

And yes before anyone asks i know the difference between what a machine can hold on one disc and what it can play on one ok?

 

 

 

[gta_fan28]

Seriously, this is what you all need to remember.

 

360 & PS3 are nearing the end of their lifes, its true. I actually believe L.A Noire maxxed out what the 360 was capable of at least, as from my experience the Xbox found it hard to keep up at times during the game, sometimes bursting into a lag-sesh.

 

Now, if you are like me, and you can't afford to buy a Gaming Rig, then we chose consoles. We chose them because they are cheaper and a lot more convenient.

 

Anyone would be idiots to think they can make GTA IV's graphics much better than they are now for current gen consoles, I am not even joking.

 

Tone down with what your hoping for V, because I believe you will all be pretty shocked when you find the graphics will be of pretty much the same quality. L.A Noire graphics were not all that great, the only reason we are "tricked" into thinking they are is because of this MotionScan nonsense, which to me I see no difference between a GTA Character and MotionScan character apart from a few small expressions made on the faces.

 

All I want, is for the graphics to be on par with slightly better than GTA IV, I will then be happy. Because heck, its a GTA game and this is the franchise I have grew old to love.

 

If you want amazing graphics, you need to be prepared to fork out quite a bit to max out a big game like GTA on full graphics.

I just want the graphics of GTAV to be more like in RDR. RDR has a great graphics.

 

Current consoles cannot handle this kind of graphics.

[The Wallet Inspector]

I wish people on the PC would stop being so idiotic.(I to own a high end PC modelled off of alienware made for me by my uncle) Why do automaticaly assume that if the 360 can't run something no other console can. I mean come on, PS3 runs LA Noire like a dream Crysis 2 looks fantastic (Yes it looks better on PC but do you know how damn long it took me to afford a PC to run it on max settings!) Honestly what the PS3 can run is still amazing. How many discs did LA Noire take on 360? Now how many did it take on PS3.

 

 

I also wonder why 360 exclusives never look as pretty as there Rival PS3 counter parts. GOW3 for example is close to the Witcher 2 in terms of graphical apperance. So why is that others in this highly intellecutal community see fit to diss one console and think it applies to all of them. (Ok i know the WII is dead but still there is the Wii 2 which is supposed to be on PS3 level perhaps higher on tech, yes it lacks blu-ray but it's still quite a powerful machine from what I've been told) With that said i don't think the PS3 would have an easy time running that hell if it could get past 10 frames per second it would be a mircale. However i have seen CRYSIS 2 on that console and it's not to shabby.

 

 

 

And yes before anyone asks i know the difference between what a machine can hold on one disc and what it can play on one ok?

Apparently you don't understand. Those are two very different disc formats.

 

Yes, the PS3 can handle more than the 360 but it's not going to be able to do iCE-style graphics in a fast-moving big city sandbox with good draw distance. It's a great machine, but it can't. Coding improvements will only get you so far, and there are strict limits on the output. We will see vast artistic improvements: better modelling, better deformations, better animation. Those three things alone will have far more impact than these mods' textures and reflections.

 

It's a testament to how good the PS3 and 360 are, and the ingenuity of certain coders, that the current gen hasn't died off before the new one appears. The next generation will allow a gigantic leap beyond what we see today.

[Finn 7 five 11]

 

I wish people on the PC would stop being so idiotic.(I to own a high end PC modelled off of alienware made for me by my uncle) Why do automaticaly assume that if the 360 can't run something no other console can. I mean come on, PS3 runs LA Noire like a dream Crysis 2 looks fantastic (Yes it looks better on PC but do you know how damn long it took me to afford a PC to run it on max settings!) Honestly what the PS3 can run is still amazing. How many discs did LA Noire take on 360? Now how many did it take on PS3.

 

 

I also wonder why 360 exclusives never look as pretty as there Rival PS3 counter parts. GOW3 for example is close to the Witcher 2 in terms of graphical apperance. So why is that others in this highly intellecutal community see fit to diss one console and think it applies to all of them. (Ok i know the WII is dead but still there is the Wii 2 which is supposed to be on PS3 level perhaps higher on tech, yes it lacks blu-ray but it's still quite a powerful machine from what  I've been told) With that said i don't think the PS3 would have an easy time running that hell if it could get past 10 frames per second it would be a mircale. However i have seen CRYSIS 2 on that console and it's not to shabby.

 

 

 

And yes before anyone asks i know the difference between what a machine can hold on one disc and what it can play on one ok?

Apparently you don't understand. Those are two very different disc formats.

 

Yes, the PS3 can handle more than the 360 but it's not going to be able to do iCE-style graphics in a fast-moving big city sandbox with good draw distance. It's a great machine, but it can't. Coding improvements will only get you so far, and there are strict limits on the output. We will see vast artistic improvements: better modelling, better deformations, better animation. Those three things alone will have far more impact than these mods' textures and reflections.

 

It's a testament to how good the PS3 and 360 are, and the ingenuity of certain coders, that the current gen hasn't died off before the new one appears. The next generation will allow a gigantic leap beyond what we see today.

I have a PS3 so i am non bias towards xbox, whilst i do not own an xbox i use one regularly.

 

PS3 and Xbox are on par for Specifications, aside from the fact that the PS3 comes in at 2 tflops instead of 1 (which is how many instructions per second), and the disc drive.

The PS3 Has Blu-ray, but the drive runs slower than an Xbox drive, i think the PS3 drive is 12x and the xbox 22x, which is part of the reason why many titles PS3 require an install, because data cannot be read off the disc as fast as xbox.

(please correct if i am wrong)

 

Anyway, L.A noire ran much better on PS3 because it was originally developed for PS3, it was designed specifically for PS3, and then ported to Xbox,i don't see the issue swapping a disc 3 times during a 20 hour+ story anyway.

La Noire was an exception to most games in the current generation because it was developed for PS3 first then ported to Xbox (like stated above), with many games in the current generation they are coded for Xbox first then ported to PS3, and that makes the games ported to PS3 look worse.

For example, GTA IV runs very smoothly on xbox with little hiccups (usually during a big police chase), but on my PS3 it suffers quite a lot with very large framerate drops during a similar police chase, because it was originally coded for xbox, so the argument can swing both ways lightning.

 

As for exclusives, you say PS3 exclusives look better than xbox, well you may be correct, i do not have as much experience with xbox exclusives, but judging by specifications it comes down to the developer and how skilled they are at coding, not the console, although i have heard that the PS3 coding system is harder to code for, but produces better results when done correctly (don't quote me on that i do not know a hell of a lot about coding).

By the way, i would like to add Uncharted to your examples of awesome looking PS3 exclusives.

 

P.S I was not in anyway trying to shoot either of you down, i was just stating what i knew, see the link in my signature for the Specifications.

Edited July 14, 2011 by finn4life

[GR7]

Have you guys seen this

it's beautiful .

[Ispintechno]

WOW, those graphics are giving me a chubby.

 

If the next gen consoles get close to that I'd probably pay the $900 asking price in the beginning lol Maybe pimp out the wife for a bit... jesus.

You guys must have some mighty PCs to render that. What would the specs on a PC be to make Grand Theft Auto look like that?! Had no idea that was possible.

[Finn 7 five 11]

WOW, those graphics are giving me a chubby.

 

If the next gen consoles get close to that I'd probably pay the $900 asking price in the beginning lol Maybe pimp out the wife for a bit... jesus.

You guys must have some mighty PCs to render that. What would the specs on a PC be to make Grand Theft Auto look like that?! Had no idea that was possible.

In Australia, to build a computer that could handle really well, i would say around $1100-$1300.

But for just about $900 dollars i can build a great pc that can handle much higher framerates, better draw distance, ect ect.

PC gaming is not that expensive, when you consider that you will not be using the computer just for gaming, so really, your only spending $500 on the gaming rig, and you probably would have spent $400 to get a computer just for everyday stuff, and for $500 dollars, i could but a PS3 with very weak specifications in comparison.

When the next generation consoles come out, the pc you own could still be powerful enough to run the games well, or just an upgrade away, so your saving money in the long run.

[Ispintechno]

So $1300 off the shelf, about $900 for a person who knows his stuff to build one. That's not half bad. I see why people stick to PC vs consoles. I figured a proper gaming rig would cost over 2 grand. Modding and higher performance, but longer wait for game releases (as I assume PC games are all easy to copy/crack). Publishers want the money first from people that still buy everything retail instead of grabbing it off a bit torrent I suppose.

[gta_fan28]

This graphics is awesome...