ahash08 Posted July 9, 2011 Author Share Posted July 9, 2011 Well Guys, What about the story like the simple man is poor and he joined the gang and at the end of story he become Rich???? just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmisdice Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 Well Guys, What about the story like the simple man is poor and he joined the gang and at the end of story he become Rich???? just saying. We've seen those kinds of Rags to Riches stories a million times, The ORIGINAL story I laid out is what GTA 5 NEEDS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sd13killer Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 Gangsta stories are lamer than lame. Id rather replay the Italian scenes that I've seen a million times then go back into the stupid gangster scene. I want to be in a biker gang again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Official General Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 (edited) Gangsta stories are lamer than lame. Id rather replay the Italian scenes that I've seen a million times then go back into the stupid gangster scene. I want to be in a biker gang again @ sd13killer What you really meant was that you don't wanna play as a black protagonist and you hate anything to do with black culture. You seem to completely favour white gangs (Italian Mafia, biker gangs etc). Just admit it and I will have more respect for you if you do, don't try and disguise your true feelings. @ rmisdice It seems like quite an interesting idea, but no thanks I disagree with you there totally. Causing unprovoked, senseless chaos in a GTA game has always been a completely optional activity, it is not supposed to be embedded within the structural framework of the game's main storyline. If the protagonist's main objectives were purely just to cause chaos for the sake of it, the game would quickly get boring, repetitive and un-interesting real fast. Just what is the point of having a storyline and carefully crafted protagonist with a personality if all you are gonna do is go on a rampage, kill people and blow things up ? Your idea makes no sense in a GTA game. There is the need for a set of objectives, desires and motivations for the protagonist's actions and deeds that will benefit him or have consepquences for him, which would provide the basis for a solid and interesting, deep storyline. If you want to purely go on the rampage, kill people and blow things up for reason in a GTA game you can do this anyway - anytime you want and anywhere you want without this affecting the main storyline in anyway. The whole beauty of GTA is that you can diverge from the main storyline missions and go on a destrcutive and murderous ramapage anytime you want to, that is the way it should stay. Edited July 10, 2011 by Official General Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sd13killer Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 "Thug Life and Gangsta" crap just gets on my nerves. People like this can go to hell. One of my favorite comedians of all time. I hope he lives a long and prosperous life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmisdice Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Gangsta stories are lamer than lame. Id rather replay the Italian scenes that I've seen a million times then go back into the stupid gangster scene. I want to be in a biker gang again Both the Gangsta and Mafia Storylined Sucked IMO, The Biker Story from GTA LATD put me to sleep also. I Think we need an Original Compelling Story(Like the one I wrote before) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Official General Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 sd13killer Fair enough, thats fine if you feel that way. But guess what bro ? There are many people who are tired of always seeing Italian-American Mafia culture, or they are irritated by it. There are many who think the whole Mafioso thing is too played out. There also many people who don't like those heavy metal-listening biker gangs, and some don't even consider them to be proper criminal gangs at all. I see no difference between them and the black 'gangstas' or thugs you have extreme disdain for - they all belong to gangs, they all engage in illegal activities to make money and they all kill people. I really don't see what the hate is about (unless its to do with race and culture). It can't be about what the gangs do, because all do the same or similar things. And GTA has only done the 'black gangsta' thing once. People like you express so much hate for it and say they are fed up of it like it was always a regular main theme in GTA when it is clearly not - it has only been done once. That is an indicator of someone's real feelings of the issue of GTA and race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmisdice Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 (edited) I will admit that the gangsta story turned me off in GTA: SA, however the Mafia type stories and revenge stories are getting repetitive as well. How about this kind of story? the main story involves you playing as a character who wants to take over the city, they always make the stories about wanting the good life, what if the character wants more? a greedy character could make the story more appealing. Ok, I got a Message from "the utah dude" Being accused of racism for the Post above ^. First of All I am not a Racist in any way, I see all people as equal. my question is, what does a characters personality have to do with skin color? I didn't like the GTA SA storyline, not because of color, but because it didn't entertain me to the fullest, Of course it did have fun moments, and was entertaining the 1st time I played it, but after that I didn't seem to like it. I do not see how not liking a game storyline is racist... Also, I Said before in another post that I didn't like the CJ Character because he was annoying(Also, he lacked the aggressiveness that GTA Characters should have) but I did applaud the characters customization. I do not see how being Annoyed by a character's personality is racist... Personality has NOTHING to do with Skin color.(Love how he forgot that I wrote this also --> "however the Mafia type stories and revenge stories are getting repetitive as well.") Also, the post from above was what I would like in a GTA game, he should have an extremely greedy personality. again... I do not see how that is racist... Also, "the utah dude" made an assumption that If you talk about gangstas, that you are automatically a racist , I call B.S. on that because anyone could be a gangsta, skin color has nothing to do with being a gangsta. Edited March 21, 2012 by rmisdice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sd13killer Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Well I'm irritated with thug life and gangstas. Maybe its straight up from people who act like these "gangstas" like they are some cool s**t spoiled it for me. I can't tell you the amount of people I've heard demanding respect for icing hos with their homies etc. It just simply doesn't happen as much with Biker Gangs, Triads, or even Italian Mobs (which are overplayed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtaman3610 Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 here is something i figured out or well basicly what i think . the horse is facing sw southwest there is a road in the picture. road to the southwest from texas california and LA. la nicknamed city of angels. topic is called genesis. first letter of sw s 2nd letter of la a put them together you get sa. sa= san andreas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Official General Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 (edited) Well I'm irritated with thug life and gangstas.Maybe its straight up from people who act like these "gangstas" like they are some cool s**t spoiled it for me. I can't tell you the amount of people I've heard demanding respect for icing hos with their homies etc. It just simply doesn't happen as much with Biker Gangs, Triads, or even Italian Mobs (which are overplayed) @ sd13killer I really don't know why the fact that certain people think a certain type of negative culture is cool should affect you in any serious way. And it does happen with the other criminal groups you mentioned. The Italian-American Mafia guys boast to each other all the time about how much hits they've been on, how many people they kill and how good they are it. The Mafia will sometimes kill innocents like women too, so do the Triads. Biker gangs boast about killing people too. Triads will talk about how nicely they chopped someone up. I'm pretty sure most other gangs do the same thing - it is their nature to do so, they are gangsters. I've seen documentaries on all of them about this stuff. You get many guys who are heavily inspired and influenced by Italian-American Mafia culture and think its cool. If you watched Goodfellas, you will see that the Mafioso Henry Hill states "that he always wanted to be a gangsta" and in the movie he always looked up to them as a young man. There is even a scene where a young Henry Hill dresses up in a Mafia-style suit and asks his mum what she thinks, and she replies with, "you look like a gangster". Many young men growing up in Italian-American neighbourhoods always thought it was cool to be a Mafioso. The same with biker gangs - many guys join those biker gangs because they think its cool ride on Harley motorbikes, dress in leather gear, listen to heavy metal music and cause havoc. There is no real difference in what I see here with the black gangstas and the other gangs you mentioned. Your analysis is very wrong. You would not know the stuff you say about other gangs for sure anyway (unless you are a member of all these gangs, which I dont think you are). Edited July 10, 2011 by Official General Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sd13killer Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 I can tell you through life experience that I've heard a lot more stuff like that from people claiming to be gangstas. It seems to be that there is a lot more bragging going around there. Its probably wrong to assume they do that. But through movies, through stereotypes, in general they do so much more often. And if you think a videogame that parades itself on making parodies and basing itself of pop culture isn't going to take a run with all that then you are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Official General Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 I can tell you through life experience that I've heard a lot more stuff like that from people claiming to be gangstas. It seems to be that there is a lot more bragging going around there.Its probably wrong to assume they do that. But through movies, through stereotypes, in general they do so much more often. And if you think a videogame that parades itself on making parodies and basing itself of pop culture isn't going to take a run with all that then you are wrong. Those maybe your life experiences, but at the end of the day they cannot serve as a basis for assuming all black gangstas act like that. Even if they brag and boast about murder and other crimes, so what ? They are criminals, killers and gangsters, they generally are not suppose to feel sorry or bad about what they do. They will boast and brag about these their evil deeds just like all other gangsters or mobsters. None of this minor stuff should matter when it concerns a GTA game. If all gangsters were the same, GTA would be boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmisdice Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 I can tell you through life experience that I've heard a lot more stuff like that from people claiming to be gangstas. It seems to be that there is a lot more bragging going around there.Its probably wrong to assume they do that. But through movies, through stereotypes, in general they do so much more often. And if you think a videogame that parades itself on making parodies and basing itself of pop culture isn't going to take a run with all that then you are wrong. Those maybe your life experiences, but at the end of the day they cannot serve as a basis for assuming all black gangstas act like that. Even if they brag and boast about murder and other crimes, so what ? They are criminals, killers and gangsters, they generally are not suppose to feel sorry or bad about what they do. They will boast and brag about these their evil deeds just like all other gangsters or mobsters. None of this minor stuff should matter when it concerns a GTA game. If all gangsters were the same, GTA would be boring. Thank You^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sd13killer Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Why does it matter if I think all black gangstas act like that? I won't associate myself with black gangstas. I associate with gangs by walking the other direction not having a chit chat with them about their boasting habits, whether they be black, latino, biker, or asian gangs. They are criminals, killers and gangsters. Your opinion maybe that you like to have variety in your gangsters and you dont' care if they brag etc. My opinion is different than yours. If you expect me to respect yours, then respect mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famicom2015 Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 The next Gta should have a custom protagonist and the story should vary depending on what you do in the game, i.e if you are a taxi driver and avoid trouble up to a certain point you will have a different ending than if you do some street work for some other characters who you meet. All the clothes stores should be in it so you can have all the outfits from previous games this includes all from san adreas the vice city ones and LBS and VCS. including the ones from 4 and dlc plus new ones, that will make it the most customisable gta ever. and it should have rpg elements like combat, shooting, jumping, running, stamina ect.... but so you can level each up individually to like level 100 or something. that would be really cool. more weapons and cars and keep the driving from gta: tbgt, or let you pick!!! i like the aim system in gta 4 and dlc, but i think you should at some stage be able to shoot any weapon out the window!!! businesses should come back, i mean that was so fun running around collecting money trying to make a million, lol, the car missions should be continuous and so should ones for like the mafia, russians, triads, they should incorparate the gang like/dislike meter from gta2, that was really cool, and bring back gang territory like in gta:sa but with more gang scattered over the map. The map should be San Andreas, Vice city and Liberty city. and the story should span over all citys being the longest gta ever probably 200 mission for the story and 500 side missions(including graffiti, shells, level up stuff ect...). that would be epic!!! this would allow real flying and city to city cop chases. and they should have the citizens and traffic more observant and react better. the police should be smarter and pull over your car if it is stolen and not taken to the paint shop, or if you speed or dont stop at red light or crash ect... like real road laws. sorry for my rant......but that would be a cool gta but if they added a fps view...........they would have created a monster game that would sell billions because aliens from outer space would come to buy it. loooool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silentype Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 (edited) "Thug Life and Gangsta" crap just gets on my nerves. People like this can go to hell. One of my favorite comedians of all time. I hope he lives a long and prosperous life. "Gangsta" is the wrong word to describe your seemingly ignorant and stereotypical view.(for reasons already stated.) Gangbanger best describes what you,(and a bunch of others) don't like, which is understandable, if you don't like gangbanger type criminals(regardless of race.), if it's something else or more to do with race, then you obviously have problems with race.(your somewhat/fully are a racist basically.) P.S.- not all black criminals that you ignorantly lump together and call and consider to be gangstAs(which should be replaced with gangbanger.) are gangbangers. Btw, Your comment about opinions(and whatnot) is ironic considering the fact that, as official general stated, the different criminal groups are all basically the same but you only seem to dislike gangstA.(aka what you consider to be all black criminals.) So basically, just come out and say you don't like black anything/criminals, instead of talking about difference in opinion, cause there is none.(and it's a cop out that misses the point.) Another thing, you basically, blatantly and ironically stated that you have a steretypical view of certain types of criminals.(so you have no real idea of anything your talking about beyond stereotypes.) Edited July 10, 2011 by Silentype Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machiavelli's Prophecy Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 (edited) Lol at this fa**ot posting a picture of a wannabe gangster kid and trying to prove a point with that. The most influental people came up from out of the ghettos; 2Pac, Nas, JayZ, Oprah, Will Smith, Muhammad Ali, Morgan Freeman, Martin Luther King jr., Denzel, etc, etc, etc. How you gonna say a ghetto story would not work? A ghetto story opens so many doors and if done well a sense of desperation and great characters will make the story something really amazing and memorable.. Edited July 10, 2011 by Machiavelli's Prophecy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahash08 Posted July 10, 2011 Author Share Posted July 10, 2011 But it should be decent story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Official General Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 (edited) Why does it matter if I think all black gangstas act like that? I won't associate myself with black gangstas. I associate with gangs by walking the other direction not having a chit chat with them about their boasting habits, whether they be black, latino, biker, or asian gangs. They are criminals, killers and gangsters. Your opinion maybe that you like to have variety in your gangsters and you dont' care if they brag etc. My opinion is different than yours. If you expect me to respect yours, then respect mine. @ sd13killer I respect THE FACT the that you are entitled to have YOUR OWN personal opinion, but I don't respect YOUR opinion ITSELF - it just does not make any kind of sense to me at all. You don't really provide any good examples of why you have a difference of opinion and why you have that opinion. Plus, you have displayed a great lack of knowledge or understanding of the subject that we are discussing here. Your opinion would make much more sense to me if you just came out and said what it really was all about (and you know what that is). That is all I was saying really. I know you have a difference of opinion to me, that is why I'm questioning you to challenge it. You don't have to tell me that. Judging from from the fact that you don't wanna properly explain your comments, it indictates to me that you don't wanna acknowledge the contradictions you clearly seem to express here. But it's ok, if you wanna keep hiding behind curtains and not saying what is really on your mind, then fine I can't force you to. @ Silentype You hit the nail on the head with your last comment. You can clearly see exactly what I'm getting at. And when he starts yapping about "its my own opinion, why don't respect it?" - I too thought that this guy is just taking the easy way out. If he is gonna makes comments like this, he should expect to get reactions and be questioned, and the least he can do is explain his opinions properly, which he refuses to do, even though it has been demonstrated how flawed and biased his opinions are. Edited July 10, 2011 by Official General Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahash08 Posted July 10, 2011 Author Share Posted July 10, 2011 Why does it matter if I think all black gangstas act like that? I won't associate myself with black gangstas. I associate with gangs by walking the other direction not having a chit chat with them about their boasting habits, whether they be black, latino, biker, or asian gangs. They are criminals, killers and gangsters. Your opinion maybe that you like to have variety in your gangsters and you dont' care if they brag etc. My opinion is different than yours. If you expect me to respect yours, then respect mine. @ sd13killer I respect THE FACT the that you are entitled to have YOUR OWN personal opinion, but I don't respect YOUR opinion ITSELF - it just does not make any kind of sense to me at all. You don't really provide any good examples of why you have a difference of opinion and why you have that opinion. Plus, you have displayed a great lack of knowledge or understanding of the subject that we are discussing here. Your opinion would make much more sense to me if you just came out and said what it really was all about (and you know what that is). That is all I was saying really. I know you have a difference of opinion to me, that is why I'm questioning you to challenge it. You don't have to tell me that. Judging from from the fact that you don't wanna properly explain your comments, it indictates to me that you don't wanna acknowledge the contradictions you clearly seem to express here. But it's ok, if you wanna keep hiding behind curtains and not saying what is really on your mind, then fine I can't force you to. @ Silentype You hit the nail on the head with your last comment. You can clearly see exactly what I'm getting at. And when he starts yapping about "its my own opinion, why don't respect it?" - I too thought that this guy is just taking the easy way out. If he is gonna makes comments like this, he should expect to get reactions and be questioned, and the least he can do is explain his opinions properly, which he refuses to do, even though it has been demonstrated how flawed and biased his opinions are. True.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarnageVercetti Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 I hope it will be mafia story like in GTA Liberty City Stories, but in city like Chicago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahash08 Posted July 11, 2011 Author Share Posted July 11, 2011 Well, Now the news says that they going to announce in summer so let see what happens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superzero Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 I think that the story should be a mix between the two, for example, you work for many gangs throughout the city, from the usual Mafia, from a small Street Gang working on the broken parts of the city and maybe even a Biker Gang. A bit like how GTA III done this where you are working with the Leone's for a while, then for the Triads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TellEmRye Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 "simple story like GTA IV"... are you serious? IV is not a simple story by any means, it's a story about a bosnian/croatian/serbian immigrant in Liberty City on a revenge mission for his past & all at the same time trying to make life better for him & Roman, all the while being betrayed, kidnapped & set up by various different characters. what part of that is boring? however, to answer your question, i'm not to sure what sort of background the protagonist should be placed into the next GTA, I do like the gangster scene displayed in SanAndreas but i'm not sure R* could pull off the same stunt and keep it fresh, so who knows, i'm just hoping they completely surprise us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroveSt.Fam4L Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Gangsta story would be great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZirconZer0 Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Gangster story for sure. I dont want a simple story. It may become The Sims! No guns, no gang wars... A simple life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYC PATROL Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 All i want is a story that is compelling and branching (even more so than GTA IV) I want more choices that change the story in small or big ways. I hope in the next GTA we return to being an American protagonist. Nothing against other countries, just feel more connected by using a guy from the USA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Light Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Well I want a simple story, as long as the ending is not sad at the end like Red Dead Redemption. That ending made me cry, and I rarely cry over media like movies or Video Games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 I got pretty angry when you said that IV was a simple story. An off-the-boat immigrant looking for the American Dream with his cousin and a touch of revenge. He always get betrayed and no matter how hard he tries to do the right things they all seem to backfire on him. That was completely original and could have won an academy award if it were a movie. Now don't get me wrong, I love San Andreas. It's fun and I have love for the storyline. But it is very simple. It's taken from several movies like most of the III-era game storylines were. San Andreas wasn't the least bit compelling but it never tried to be. Anyway I think for the main game they should do a new start story sort of like IV. Of course make the reasoning completely different (IV's story is great, but I don't want them to ruin a good thing). For DLC's, I'd absolutely love a gangsta story! I kind of got the San Andreas vibe from The Ballad of Gay Tony and I thought that was almost as good as GTA IV (not story-wise but fun-wise, let's just pretend that's a word). I think they should continue the theme of Compelling, Gritty, and Ridiculous for all their stories in the eras. You want one to make sure you never skip a cutscene, one that makes you feel like a total badass, and the other that makes you think of what other crazy thing you cand do next. Compelling-Vice City, GTA IV Gritty-GTA III, TLAD Ridiculous-San Andreas, TBOGT All those games never made the series feel regurgitated (like COD). I had a tremendous amount of fun with all of them, they keep my coming back to them even to this day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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