YmT590 Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 I want to buy this laptop: HP Pavilion dv6-3160us and i want to know if it will work on gta 4. here are the specs: AMD Phenom II Quad-Core Mobile Processor N950 (2.10GHz, 2MB Cache); 4GB DDR3 SDRAM memory (2 x 2GB) (expandable to 8GB); 640GB (5400 RPM) Serial ATA hard drive ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5650 switchable graphics with 1GB dedicated DDR3 memory up to 2685MB total graphics memory there is also another one i'm thinking about and im trying to compare between them but i'll show the other one later. thanks, ymt590 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girish Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Should work on low-medium settings. I have a laptop with similar config except my processor is an i5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YmT590 Posted June 23, 2011 Author Share Posted June 23, 2011 Should work on low-medium settings. I have a laptop with similar config except my processor is an i5. oh ok, how is it working with you? Does it lag or run smooth at low settings? this one has a quad core, so it should be good at running it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverTheBelow Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 The graphics card may not be the best for even medium settings and the game will only be able to use 75% of your quad core, so I think you should be able to get around 30fps on low-medium, depending on the resolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YankeesPwnMets Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Should work on low-medium settings. I have a laptop with similar config except my processor is an i5. this one has a quad core, so it should be good at running it. Not neccesairly. Also, buying that laptop won't get you the best bang for your buck, but it should run it at low settings. Just watch the temperatures. I have a Phenom II N930 and it can heat to 202 F at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prometheus Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 I found one almost the same price. ASUS G Series G53SW-XN1 Intel Core i7 2630QM 2.0GHz GeForce GTX 460M 6GB DDR3 1333 500GB 7200RPM "15.6 HD Screen Benchamrks aren't bad, very good actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girish Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Should work on low-medium settings. I have a laptop with similar config except my processor is an i5. oh ok, how is it working with you? Does it lag or run smooth at low settings? EFLC runs very smooth; no issues whatsoever. But I have noticed a slight stutter while playing IV. No issues apart from that. But this is all very subjective considering the way this game behaves on similar systems. Still, theoretically speaking, you should be fine on low settings. Anything higher than that, you'll have to find it out yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YmT590 Posted June 24, 2011 Author Share Posted June 24, 2011 i found this one and it looks its pretty good. is levono a good company or it doesnt matter how good the company is? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16834246094 and this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...#scrollFullInfo im looking for one thats between price range of $700-$800. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YankeesPwnMets Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 (edited) Is a desktop a possible choice as well? Why do you need a laptop? Leveno is decent, but neither of those laptops are really for gaming. Games produce heat, and in laptops, that heat can sometimes be enough to fry one thing or another. The Leveno one is better, but not any of the laptops here except for that 1100 dollar one will run GTA IV over medium settings Edited June 24, 2011 by YankeesPwnMets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverTheBelow Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Laptops, of course, also require battery power to be truly portable - and laptops rarely have batteries that supply enough power for long gaming periods (2 hours+). So if you aren't planning to go many places with it you should definitely consider getting a desktop. They are much cheaper and you'll get alot more performance for your money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YankeesPwnMets Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 (edited) Laptops, of course, also require battery power to be truly portable - and laptops rarely have batteries that supply enough power for long gaming periods (2 hours+). So if you aren't planning to go many places with it you should definitely consider getting a desktop. They are much cheaper and you'll get alot more performance for your money. Not to mention that unless you have the computer plugged in, your game will be unplayble because basically every component of the machine throttles down. My laptop's CPU won't break 800 Mhz on battery power, and GTA IV plays at 5 FPS if I try to play on batteries $254.16 MSI GeForce GTX 560 Ti Twin Frozr II 822MHZ 1024MB GDDR5 4.0GHZ 2XDVI Mini-HDMI PCI-E Video Card http://www.ncixus.com/products/61077/N560G...SI%2FMicroStar/ $45.21 Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 16MB Cache 7200RPM 3.5IN SATA Internal Hard Drive OEM http://www.ncixus.com/products/index.php?s...02&promoid=1338 $80.39 Corsair TX650 V2 650W ATX 12V Single Rail 53A 24PIN ATX Power Supply Active PFC 80PLUS Bronze http://www.ncixus.com/products/index.php?s...81&promoid=1338 $50.24 Antec Three Hundred Mini Tower Gaming Case 300 ATX 3X5.25 6X3.5INT http://www.ncixus.com/products/index.php?s...12&promoid=1338 $115.27 Intel Core i3 2100 Dual Core Hyperthreading Processor LGA1155 3.1GHZ Sandy Bridge 3MB http://www.ncixus.com/products/index.php?s...39&promoid=1338 $37.18 Mushkin Enhanced Silverline Stiletto 4GB 2X2GB PC3-10666 DDR3-1333 9-9-9-24 Dual Channel Memory Kit http://www.ncixus.com/products/index.php?s...46&promoid=1338 $98.48 Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 64BIT DVD OEM http://www.ncixus.com/products/index.php?s...71&promoid=1338 $80.13 ASUS P8H61-M LE/CSM H61 DDR3 LGA1155 mATX PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 PCI VGA DVI B3 Motherboard http://www.ncixus.com/products/index.php?s...29&promoid=1338 $50.25 PC Assembly and Testing With 1 Year Limited NCIX System Warranty (PRE-CONFIG WIN. OS If Purchased) http://www.ncixus.com/products/index.php?s...42&promoid=1338 =$802.61 (This does not include rebates though) If you know how to build the computer yourself, theres $50 you can save. If you have a copy of Windows 7 already and you know how to configure drivers and updates in Windows yourself, theres $100 saved. The last item is optional; they will build your PC for you and install Windows 7 along with drivers and updates for an extra $50. This system can run very high settings up to maximum if you use some commandlines and do some overclocking on that video card Edited June 24, 2011 by YankeesPwnMets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YmT590 Posted June 24, 2011 Author Share Posted June 24, 2011 thanks yankeepwnmets for your help and this seems like intense stuff, I don't think I'll be able to build one. I understand what you're saying about the desktops and I've been thinking the same way. In fact check out this one: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004G5ZTT2/r...08882139&sr=1-1 it has pretty good specs for 798 but I'm still looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverTheBelow Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 thanks yankeepwnmets for your help and this seems like intense stuff, I don't think I'll be able to build one. I understand what you're saying about the desktops and I've been thinking the same way. In fact check out this one: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004G5ZTT2/r...08882139&sr=1-1 it has pretty good specs for 798 but I'm still looking. Actually, the specs are terrible for gaming. The Thuban architecture sucks and will hold back GTA4 even when overclocked, and the graphics card is the lowest end available 6000 series card. That won't even RUN the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radioman Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Not to mention that unless you have the computer plugged in, your game will be unplayble because basically every component of the machine throttles down. My laptop's CPU won't break 800 Mhz on battery power, and GTA IV plays at 5 FPS if I try to play on batteries That is only partially true, as it would depend on what you have your Power Options set on-if you use the "High Performance" option, you will get the same performance on both AC and Battery Power...I have confirmed this, as I changed the Power option from "HP Recommended" to "High Performance" and now my laptop is much much faster than my desktop is(and that too is set to "High Performance" for the power option...There are 3 Power Options for laptops-(1)Power Saver mode, (2) PC manufacturer(in my case, HP) Recommended, and (3) High Perfomance-all of which can be customized to fit your liking...The ONLY difference between Battery and AC power I have noticed, is that when I unplug the PC, the screen gets brighter and a message pops up asking me if I want to switch to the Power saver Video card(the Intel GMA HD one)...I click cancel, and it still uses my default ATI card...and I can still play games without any performance issues..Guess it depends on the PC? the game will only be able to use 75% of your quad core Depends on the Processor, as I have an I5, and IV only uses 47% of the PC(and I have 4 CPU's)-according to the DXDIAG screen... CPU Usage: 47%System memory usage: 52% Video memory usage: 51% Hardware Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Video Adapter: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5470 Video Driver version: 8.14.1.6091 Audio Adapter: Speakers and Headphones (IDT High Definition Audio CODEC) Intel® Core i5 CPU M 430 @ 2.27GHz and I only use 52% System RAM and 51% Vram...Here is proof the I5 a Quad core(4 CPU's):, as a Dual Core says "2 CPU's", as seen here: Just a friendly heads up...I had to use pictures too, or nobody actually believes I5's actually do come in Quad cores...If this is not right, please feel free to correct it(but use good details and examples when doing it, as I am still learning the inner workings of PC's and would be curious as to why people say that I5's are Dual core, when they say "4 CPU's" and yet Dual cores(as seen in the XP Pro screenshot above) only says "2 Cpu's"..if this is not true above...? But..OT-Girishb is right, you should be able to run at Low/Medium settings... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prometheus Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 thanks yankeepwnmets for your help and this seems like intense stuff, I don't think I'll be able to build one. I understand what you're saying about the desktops and I've been thinking the same way. In fact check out this one: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004G5ZTT2/r...08882139&sr=1-1 it has pretty good specs for 798 but I'm still looking. How about this? Intel Core i5 2500k nVidia GeForce GTX 570 8GB DDR3 1333 RAM 1TB SATA III $1300 Also with USB 3.0 and and a liquid cooler, one of the best desktops you can buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lol232 Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Well, it will keep freezing-unfreezing every few secs until you disable "Windows Log Event", after you Disable it will run quite well, or how to say, smooth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YmT590 Posted June 24, 2011 Author Share Posted June 24, 2011 (edited) @radioman, in simple words (since im not much of a tech guy) does your laptop run it smoothly even when you have fraps working? @lol232, where is the Windows Log Event located in the laptop? what does it do? also i found these specs for another laptop they could similar to the original one but i want to have your take on it: AMD Phenom II Quad-Core Mobile Proc. P960 4GB DDR3 System Mem (2 DIMM) 640GB (5400RPM) HD(SATA) AMD Radeon HD 6370 switchable graphics again thanks everyone for your replies! Edited June 24, 2011 by YmT590 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radioman Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 @radioman, in simple words (since im not much of a tech guy) does your laptop run it smoothly even when you have fraps working? 2011-04-28 05:18:48 - gta_IVFrames: 3512 - Time: 56020ms - Avg: 62.692 - Min: 36 - Max: 90 There is my benchmark from Fraps for IV-This is for all areas except Alderney, as I have not unlocked Alderney yet..Although it should still be good, as EFLC is extremely smooth gameplay on this PC(just installed EFLC last night)...(as for TLAD you start off in Alderney).. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverTheBelow Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 the game will only be able to use 75% of your quad core Depends on the Processor, as I have an I5, and IV only uses 47% of the PC(and I have 4 CPU's)-according to the DXDIAG screen... No, it does not depend on the processor. It will always peak at 75% from GTA 4 on a quad core unless another component is holding the CPU back. Your graphics are probably preventing the game from performing at a framerate that would require the game to use all three cores to keep up. It only supports up to three cores, remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YankeesPwnMets Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 thanks yankeepwnmets for your help and this seems like intense stuff, I don't think I'll be able to build one. I understand what you're saying about the desktops and I've been thinking the same way. In fact check out this one: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004G5ZTT2/r...08882139&sr=1-1 it has pretty good specs for 798 but I'm still looking. Look at this last item I listed. They'll build the computer for you if you pay them an extra $50. Windows 7 and updates will be installed for you as well, so you can just install GTA IV without doing anything except for adding user names and things like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iTRiP Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 (edited) ... Edited August 18, 2012 by iTRiP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YankeesPwnMets Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 @radioman: For the last time your i5 430M is not a quad core. Just look here http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=43537 Intel specifically says that it has 2 physical cores with 4 threads. 4 threads show up as four cores in Windows 7, even though you only have two physical cores. I'm not sure about the hyperthreading issue on XP, but if I were on a i5 processor I would be using Windows 7 anyways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YmT590 Posted June 25, 2011 Author Share Posted June 25, 2011 ok I'm most likely getting an amd quad core but which series is better? Also which series is good for ati radeons? I assume the higher the number the better it is but not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YankeesPwnMets Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 I would wait for more Bulldozer processors to be released before going with anything from AMD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YmT590 Posted June 25, 2011 Author Share Posted June 25, 2011 how about the i5 processors? which will run gta 4 smoothly, especially online gameplay, other than the AMD ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinky12 Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 Mobile and Desktop parts are different from one another in a way that mobile Core i5 are only dual cores, but they have HT so you will get 4 threads within the OS. This method fools the users thinking they got a quad core when in reality they don't. Desktop versions of Core i5 SNB are quad cores as they actually have 4 physical cores within its die, but they lack HT. Desktop: 1st/2nd Gen<--Sandy Bridge Core i3: 2cores/4threads for both 1st and 2nd gen Core i5: 2cores/4threads for 600 series, 4 cores no HT for 700 series, 2nd gen are all quad cores with no HT Core i7: 4cores/8threads for both 1st and 2nd gen Mobile: 1st/2nd gen<--Sandy Bridge Core i3: 2cores/4threads both 1st and 2nd Core i5: 2cores/4threads for both gens Core i7: 2cores/4threads or 4cores/8threads for both gens where quad cores have the letter "Q". Mobile Extreme editions are 4cores/8threads and have a letter "X". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YankeesPwnMets Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 how about the i5 processors? which will run gta 4 smoothly, especially online gameplay, other than the AMD ones? AMD's fastest processor as of now (X6 1100T) doesn't even really beat the Core i5 750, and GTA IV runs great on practically any desktop Core i5 (even the dual cores) as long as you have a decent graphics card. However, the i5 Sandy Bridge is pricy for an $800 budget. If you want, you could make the computer I listed $850 and add a core i5 2300 http://www.ncixus.com/products/57965/BX80623I52300/Intel/ Instead of a i3, buy this i5. However, the price will go up to $850 instead of the $800 you wanted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radioman Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 (edited) how about the i5 processors? which will run gta 4 smoothly, especially online gameplay, other than the AMD ones? AMD's fastest processor as of now (X6 1100T) doesn't even really beat the Core i5 750, and GTA IV runs great on practically any desktop Core i5 (even the dual cores) as long as you have a decent graphics card. However, the i5 Sandy Bridge is pricy for an $800 budget. If you want, you could make the computer I listed $850 and add a core i5 2300 http://www.ncixus.com/products/57965/BX80623I52300/Intel/ Instead of a i3, buy this i5. However, the price will go up to $850 instead of the $800 you wanted You just contradicted yourself , as in your last post when you quoted me, you said the I5 WAS a Dual Core, but yet in this post you say "Practically any Core I5(even the Dual cores)..." So, Is the I5 a Dual Core OR a Quad core? That's the confusing part, when you read that the I5 is a Dual Core, but yet the same person then says later on that they are Quad core models? So, which is it-are they Dual cores or what? Just curious. Edited June 25, 2011 by radioman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YmT590 Posted June 25, 2011 Author Share Posted June 25, 2011 (edited) @yankees, yea I was about to ask why you included the i3 in the build because I've always heard that they can't run gta 4. Anyway, I like the build of this dektop but I'll let you know if I can increase the price limit. @radioman, he didn't really say they're quads but he's saying that any i5 processor with a good gfx card will run the game smoothly. If that's thw case I'll look into that more since i5 is cheaper than the i7. Also I've read somewhere that if it says i5 quad core, it's not an actual quad and it's still a dual with 4 ht. one thing I don't get is overclocking for a processor, what does that mean? Edited June 25, 2011 by YmT590 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YankeesPwnMets Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 how about the i5 processors? which will run gta 4 smoothly, especially online gameplay, other than the AMD ones? AMD's fastest processor as of now (X6 1100T) doesn't even really beat the Core i5 750, and GTA IV runs great on practically any desktop Core i5 (even the dual cores) as long as you have a decent graphics card. However, the i5 Sandy Bridge is pricy for an $800 budget. If you want, you could make the computer I listed $850 and add a core i5 2300 http://www.ncixus.com/products/57965/BX80623I52300/Intel/ Instead of a i3, buy this i5. However, the price will go up to $850 instead of the $800 you wanted You just contradicted yourself , as in your last post when you quoted me, you said the I5 WAS a Dual Core, but yet in this post you say "Practically any Core I5(even the Dual cores)..." So, Is the I5 a Dual Core OR a Quad core? That's the confusing part, when you read that the I5 is a Dual Core, but yet the same person then says later on that they are Quad core models? So, which is it-are they Dual cores or what? Just curious. practically any desktop Core i5 (even the dual cores) Desktop parts are much better performers then laptop parts. A Core i3 isn't an award winner, but it is decent enough to run almost any game. I had to chose a cheapo motherboard with a cheapo chipset, the H61, to try and fit the GTX 560 Ti in there. Overclocking the processor isn't possible on H61, but overclocking your graphics card is @radioman: ALL the Core i5 processors on the LAPTOP platform are dual cores. On the desktop platform, the Core i5 750 and i5 760 are Quads, and every Sandy Bridge i5 on the desktop platform is a quad. For laptops, Intel only offers quad cores for the Core i7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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