GTA_stu Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 West boro baptist church are the biggest trolls in the world. Only reason they're planning this is for the attention they'll get. Don't get angry at them it's what they want. And I hope if they do pull that crap at his funeral that the Jackass guys can have the dignity and class to not react. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saggy Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 It has now been confirmed that he indeed was drunk. 'The only thing they found in his blood was alcohol, nothing else' is what I read. Huh, thought the toxicology report was going to take 6 weeks at the minimum? Yeah, I was wondering about this myself as I read several reports that said the same thing. I really think the drunk driving issue involved here is being blown out of proportion, especially those that are hurling such crap as, "Oh, he killed his passenger." They were both adults, they were drinking together, so that man put his life into Dunn's the moment he got in the car. It's kind of interesting that everyone regards drunk driving as so irresponsible and risky, yet they won't recognize the fact that the guy shouldn't have got into the car with Dunn if he was drunk. That really opens up a whole different can of worms though. People will suggest, "Well, maybe he didn't know he was drunk?" while others will say, "Well, they were drinking, so they should have got a cab." Even the owner of the bar stated he did not think Dunn looked very intoxicated, wasn't slurring his speech, etc. I think this is one of those very tragic moments where a person was more inebriated than they thought they were, and the only lesson that should be taken is that you should always take a cab home after drinking, no matter how drunk you think you are. That's it, that's the lesson, there should be no superfluous judgment on his character, because that is a mistake people make all the time, and sometimes it leads to horrible endings, sometimes nothing happens at all. However, I still feel that the major contributing factor, the bigger risk, and the one that gets barely any attention is that the car was traveling at 130-140 MPH. That is inanely reckless, much more so than driving with a BAC level above the legal limit, and people just don't really seem to be as concerned with the fact that he was reckless enough to do that alone--which to me is much more significant than getting behind the wheel when drunk. People will suggest the alcohol made him lose control, or that he wouldn't have done that if he wasn't drunk, but I don't buy that at all... It was a $100k Porsche capable of going 190 MPH and apparently tuned for speed. The idea that if he wouldn't be speeding if he wasn't drunk is just ridiculous and a cop out to try to keep this about alcohol and a way to judge his character. I think the only reason people aren't' attacking him more for the insanely high speed is that most people themselves speed and don't see this for the truly irresponsible thing that it is. I think those that are attacking him and judging him for being over the legal limit are pretty petty. Especially those that have lost loved ones and feel like they need to condemn him because of that. I've lost a lot of loved ones unfairly, but I don't go around demonizing everyone associated with the ways they died, and I think it's pretty sh*tty to pass judgment like that, and no I don't think having a loved one that died in a situation like that has some kind of right to act that way. I'm not excusing drunk driving, but to just write a person off as anything but deplorable for a mistake like that is just petty. Maybe you lost a loved one to drunk driving; that's really sad, but don't go around making yourself feel better by sh*tting on the memory of other's loved ones. Yeah, maybe Dunn was a drunk driver... He was also a son, a father, a best friend, a damn person and just the fact that he made a bad decision doesn't negate his value as a person and human being... Unless you're a petty c*nt, that is. As far as Roger Ebert goes... Obviously he was trying to be witty, and was expecting immediate condemnation of Dunn from others because he was driving drunk. I doubt he really expected the backlash that he got, and then he offers the most lame apology ever. "I wasn't intending to be cruel, I was intending to speak the truth." I'm pretty sure we all could have got along fine without Roger Ebert's commentary on drunken driving. So I hope he feels satisfied that he got his little pun out there. Overall I don't really feel that sorry for Ryan Dunn (though I don't harbor any negative feelings), not because he was drunk, but because he was driving a car at those kinds of speeds--when you do that, you're putting your life on the line in the most literal sense. That's far more dangerous than driving around drunk, and it was the risk he took, and it cost him his life--that's very sad, and while I feel sad that he's gone, I can't help look at it as one of those, "Why were you doing something that stupid?" moments. I feel really sorry for his family and friends though, but this is what happens when you take risks and you lose. I really hope that's the lesson people take from this moreso than it being a lesson against drunk driving, because I think there's a lot more people at risk out there driving at insanely high speeds than there are drunk drivers, and I think if there were some big lesson to take home from this that it would be a shame if the matter of alcohol overshadowed the matter of speed. Lastly, as far as his passenger goes... One thing I have to wonder, is if he was egging Dunn on to go faster, or begging him to go slower. I don't think that's something we'll ever know, and I really hope he wasn't forced into taking that risk. However, so far as the idea that Dunn killed him because he was drunk... Well, that's why you don't get into the car with someone who has been drinking, and if one is to believe that Dunn was speeding because he was drunk, then that applies whether he was telling Dunn to slow down or not. Ultimately, he was an adult, and he decides who he gets into a car with. QUOTE (K^2) ...not only is it legal for you to go around with a concealed penis, it requires absolutely no registration! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tubbs51 Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 So apparently his blood alcohol level was 0.196 , pretty trashed. The legal limit here is 0.05 Legal limit here in PA is .08. From the looks of how things went down, its not looking good for the bar he was at. In PA we have a "dram shop law" which makes bars and restaurants that serve alcohol responsible if they provide drinks to someone who's clearly inebriated and later crashes. Well, isn't the drunk guy's fault, since he was the one who D&D instead of calling a cab or friend? Ahh, bureaucracy. Sadly the bar is partially responsible for not stopping him either... like the saying goes, it takes two to tango.... And WBC can f*cking shove it... f*cking extremist "Christians".... i put " around the word cause in reality they're just fear mongering retards that dont even understand their own religion. f*cking retards should drive off a f*cking cliff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.A.B. Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Westboro Baptists strike again: IMG Bullsh*t Is there any surprise here? Why not post Hitlers reaction to the Jewish awards, while you're at it? (When will there be another ''boogeyman'' to implement in internet arguments?) Entertaining, though. However, I still feel that the major contributing factor, the bigger risk, and the one that gets barely any attention is that the car was traveling at 130-140 MPH. That is inanely reckless, much more so than driving with a BAC level above the legal limit, and people just don't really seem to be as concerned with the fact that he was reckless enough to do that alone--which to me is much more significant than getting behind the wheel when drunk. People will suggest the alcohol made him lose control, or that he wouldn't have done that if he wasn't drunk, but I don't buy that at all... It was a $100k Porsche capable of going 190 MPH and apparently tuned for speed. The idea that if he wouldn't be speeding if he wasn't drunk is just ridiculous and a cop out to try to keep this about alcohol and a way to judge his character. I think the only reason people aren't' attacking him more for the insanely high speed is that most people themselves speed and don't see this for the truly irresponsible thing that it is. Good point, actually. Although, it depends. Some roads don't have hilly areas where it's easy to lose control. I mean, really, some areas are made to speed on. Like incredibly long straightaways with no rough patches. Speeding in hilly San Fransisco would be stupid. Not so much in a gigantic dessert area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unopescio Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 It looks to me like he was trying to take the off ramp from the far lane. That + speed + alcohol and there you have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmPty CaSInGz Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 RIP Ryan Dunn, your bungee wedgie awesomness will not go unnoticed... I'm actually quite sad about this. Not sad enough to cry, but I'm definitely down. Great man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sivispacem Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 In response to the above statements, driving at speed is not inherrently dangerous if done whilst fully functioning mentally, with full awareness of road conditions or whilst within ones known skill limits. For instance, there was a report released a couple of years ago that suggested that only around 4% of accidents were caused by speed alone in the UK. Far more, proportionally were caused by driver error made whilst under the influence of alcohol. In fact, IMO the most dangerous thing about driving at high speed is the stupidity of other road users. I think it's fair to say that he is likely to have sped regardless of his level of intoxication. However, the slowing of reaction times, lack of road condition awareness, inability to respond to changing situations rapidly and logically and show of macho bravado that extended beyond his limits of luck and skill were all down to the intoxication, not the speed he was traveling. AMD Ryzen 5900X (4.65GHz All-Core PBO2) | Gigabye X570S Pro | 32GB G-Skill Trident Z RGB 3600MHz CL16 EK-Quantum Reflection D5 | XSPC D5 PWM | TechN/Heatkiller Blocks | HardwareLabs GTS & GTX 360 Radiators Corsair AX750 | Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic XL | EVGA GeForce RTX2080 XC @2055MHz | Sabrant Rocket Plus 1TB Sabrant Rocket 2TB | Samsung 970 Evo 1TB | 2x ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q | Q Acoustics 2010i | Sabaj A4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Node Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 I really dont get it, most people seem to think its a joke? why is it that everyone thinks ryans death is a joke but when other famous people die the thought of it being a joke never crosses their minds :S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KilnerLUFC Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 I really dont get it, most people seem to think its a joke? why is it that everyone thinks ryans death is a joke but when other famous people die the thought of it being a joke never crosses their minds :S I believe it's due to the fact that he was due to release/work on a film where he dies and comes back as a ghost, so believe this was to get attention for that. This is only vaguely what I remember, so don't quote me on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WF the Hobgoblin Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 So apparently his blood alcohol level was 0.196 , pretty trashed. The legal limit here is 0.05 Legal limit here in PA is .08. From the looks of how things went down, its not looking good for the bar he was at. In PA we have a "dram shop law" which makes bars and restaurants that serve alcohol responsible if they provide drinks to someone who's clearly inebriated and later crashes. Well, isn't the drunk guy's fault, since he was the one who D&D instead of calling a cab or friend? Ahh, bureaucracy. Sadly the bar is partially responsible for not stopping him either... like the saying goes, it takes two to tango.... How does that work exactly? What do they do, send someone from the bar staff to follow the inebriated customer home to make sure they don't get behind the wheel? I find the whole idea of a bar being held responsible for something a customer did to be completely ludicrous. I think it's sh*t that Dunn's dead but I do find it a bit hard feel sympathy when he was drink driving. DUI is just bad news and it's one of those things I can't understand why people do it. I mean I realise that when your're drunk, your're more confident and suddenly all sorts of stupid sh*t seems like a good idea but I like to think that no matter how drunk I was, I'd still have a shred of common sense telling me not to drive. I am somewhat curious as to how people would have reacted had he killed another driver or pedestrian in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danjodan Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 (edited) He killed himself by drunk driving, along with another passenger who was stupid enough to go along with him. i hate how everyone is acting like he was a God or something.Put simply, he was a jackass. Edited June 23, 2011 by danjodan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KilnerLUFC Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Put simply, he was a jackass. Roger Ebert, is that you? And about the drunk driving part, it's claimed that upon leaving the bar, no-one could tell that he was even drunk, and that he was acting normal around everyone and within his own actions. If that's the case then you can't really blame him TBH. How many times have you been to a bar, drunk alot, then gone outside and suddenly become hit with a wave of dizziness and sudden drunkeness? I think Sag hit's loads of good points though, such as we'll never know what actually went on within the car. How do we know that the passenger wasn't the pissed one, and went to grab the wheel or some other 'prank' within the car, but resulted in fatality instead? All slating on Ryan Dunn, but how the f*ck can anyone judge when no-one was actually there and survived? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred durst Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 I really dont get it, most people seem to think its a joke? why is it that everyone thinks ryans death is a joke but when other famous people die the thought of it being a joke never crosses their minds :S When Michael Jackson was alive no one cared but now he died everybody cares Pretty dope... and those shrooms were tight as f*ck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KilnerLUFC Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 I really dont get it, most people seem to think its a joke? why is it that everyone thinks ryans death is a joke but when other famous people die the thought of it being a joke never crosses their minds :S When Michael Jackson was alive no one cared but now he died everybody cares Ha, am quoting it, but I just have no idea how to respond to it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*MURDOC* Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 He killed himself by drunk driving, along with another passenger who was stupid enough to go along with him. i hate how everyone is acting like he was a God or something.Put simply, he was? a jackass. He made a bad choice, it happens. He also was a really nice, positive guy, (which I'm sure couldn't be said for someone like you) and a tremendous friend who always had his buddies backs. He was a good guy who made a mistake, whereas you are just an asshole who enjoys speaking ill of the dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 He killed himself by drunk driving, along with another passenger who was stupid enough to go along with him. i hate how everyone is acting like he was a God or something.Put simply, he was? a jackass. He made a bad choice, it happens. He also was a really nice, positive guy, (which I'm sure couldn't be said for someone like you) and a tremendous friend who always had his buddies backs. He was a good guy who made a mistake, whereas you are just an asshole who enjoys speaking ill of the dead. Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danjodan Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 He killed himself by drunk driving, along with another passenger who was stupid enough to go along with him. i hate how everyone is acting like he was a God or something.Put simply, he was? a jackass. He made a bad choice, it happens. He also was a really nice, positive guy, (which I'm sure couldn't be said for someone like you) and a tremendous friend who always had his buddies backs. He was a good guy who made a mistake, whereas you are just an asshole who enjoys speaking ill of the dead. BUt honestly he probably went drunk driving several times before which could put other people at risk, Im sure you wouldnt be sticking up for him if he ran over one of your family members. My opinion ofcourse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhoda Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 I don't think it's a case of anyone sticking up for him, we're just saying he was a genuine, friendly bloke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrpain Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 I said it before. A death is not funny. Let's say if a serial killer gets killed by someone else, I wouldn't feel sorry for him. But this is Ryan Dunn. He's a lovable guy and I'm sure he's cool to hang out in real life. Me and other have said this before, we grew up with him. So take out a person out of our lives that has been with us for years, of course we will feel like sh*t. Yes he was drunk, I'm not focusing on that. I'm focusing on what was once a great life by a homewrecker dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machiavelli's Prophecy Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 I really dont get it, most people seem to think its a joke? why is it that everyone thinks ryans death is a joke but when other famous people die the thought of it being a joke never crosses their minds :S When Michael Jackson was alive no one cared but now he died everybody cares Ha, am quoting it, but I just have no idea how to respond to it... Then don't quote it, freeposting fa**ot. But anyway, is it really true that he was making a movie about dying and coming back? The tears of Bam Margera & the rest of Ryan Dunn's friends are real though so for this to be a prank Dunn would have to be the only one being in on it. If this turns out to be a prank it would be a pretty f*cked up one tbh Although imagine if he still is alive right now and goes around to his friends/family's house briefly showing his face, they would go crazy lol. Would definetly be a Ryan Dunn-ish prank haha.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KilnerLUFC Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 I really dont get it, most people seem to think its a joke? why is it that everyone thinks ryans death is a joke but when other famous people die the thought of it being a joke never crosses their minds :S When Michael Jackson was alive no one cared but now he died everybody cares Ha, am quoting it, but I just have no idea how to respond to it... Then don't quote it, freeposting fa**ot. I was pointing out how stupid the quote was, and I don't appreciate the homophobic slur, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*MURDOC* Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 He killed himself by drunk driving, along with another passenger who was stupid enough to go along with him. i hate how everyone is acting like he was a God or something.Put simply, he was? a jackass. He made a bad choice, it happens. He also was a really nice, positive guy, (which I'm sure couldn't be said for someone like you) and a tremendous friend who always had his buddies backs. He was a good guy who made a mistake, whereas you are just an asshole who enjoys speaking ill of the dead. BUt honestly he probably went drunk driving several times before which could put other people at risk, Im sure you wouldnt be sticking up for him if he ran over one of your family members. My opinion ofcourse The old "my opinion" argument huh? Very original. I'm not "sticking up for him", he was reckless, he was speeding, he was drinking. It was a f*cked up thing to do, but does that make him a terrible person who should burn in the fires of hell for all eternity? F*ck no. I could turn your argument back on you as well. Say you had an uncle who always cared about you, was there for you 24/7, and was a hilarious kind-hearted, happy dude. Now let's say he was drinking with his friend and drove recklessly, and crashed, would you judge him the same way as you are Ryan Dunn? Or is it somehow different for some strange reason? In my opinion, you're a prick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KilnerLUFC Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 (edited) Spot on, Murdoc. Maybe I've watched too many fils or whatever, but I like to believe that everyone is forgiven of all the sh*t they did when they pass away, and be remembered for the good things they did, however little or big quantity they come in. As said previously, Dunn seemed like just an average, down-to-Earth guy who you could hang out with at a bar and have genuine laughs with. We grew up watching him do daft things, all in the name of making someone laugh, from the days when the auidence was only small, to making millions recently. Edited June 23, 2011 by Butters 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred durst Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 I just watched Jackass 3.5 last night finally. It didn't hit me until now but I really miss the dude. Wish you guys would stop bickering and just chill out. Pretty dope... and those shrooms were tight as f*ck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrpain Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Wish you guys would stop bickering and just chill out. Although the pic is damn right offensive, it reminded me of one of the best parts of Jackass 3. I'm really taking the death hard. I have no idea why but I really do miss him. Makes me wanna go to the next guy beside me and say "I love you man." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absurdity Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 He was a genuinely fortuitous and daft young man who can count himself lucky the object he destroyed didn't have two legs and a mummy and daddy and that the victims of this crap shoot ended with only two apparently consenting adults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danjodan Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 He killed himself by drunk driving, along with another passenger who was stupid enough to go along with him. i hate how everyone is acting like he was a God or something.Put simply, he was? a jackass. He made a bad choice, it happens. He also was a really nice, positive guy, (which I'm sure couldn't be said for someone like you) and a tremendous friend who always had his buddies backs. He was a good guy who made a mistake, whereas you are just an asshole who enjoys speaking ill of the dead. BUt honestly he probably went drunk driving several times before which could put other people at risk, Im sure you wouldnt be sticking up for him if he ran over one of your family members. My opinion ofcourse The old "my opinion" argument huh? Very original. I'm not "sticking up for him", he was reckless, he was speeding, he was drinking. It was a f*cked up thing to do, but does that make him a terrible person who should burn in the fires of hell for all eternity? F*ck no. I could turn your argument back on you as well. Say you had an uncle who always cared about you, was there for you 24/7, and was a hilarious kind-hearted, happy dude. Now let's say he was drinking with his friend and drove recklessly, and crashed, would you judge him the same way as you are Ryan Dunn? Or is it somehow different for some strange reason? In my opinion, you're a prick. I never said he was a terrible person, I was jsut saying so many people shouldnt be saying how great he was when he went out drunk driving and put many innocent people at risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrpain Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 He killed himself by drunk driving, along with another passenger who was stupid enough to go along with him. i hate how everyone is acting like he was a God or something.Put simply, he was? a jackass. He made a bad choice, it happens. He also was a really nice, positive guy, (which I'm sure couldn't be said for someone like you) and a tremendous friend who always had his buddies backs. He was a good guy who made a mistake, whereas you are just an asshole who enjoys speaking ill of the dead. BUt honestly he probably went drunk driving several times before which could put other people at risk, Im sure you wouldnt be sticking up for him if he ran over one of your family members. My opinion ofcourse The old "my opinion" argument huh? Very original. I'm not "sticking up for him", he was reckless, he was speeding, he was drinking. It was a f*cked up thing to do, but does that make him a terrible person who should burn in the fires of hell for all eternity? F*ck no. I could turn your argument back on you as well. Say you had an uncle who always cared about you, was there for you 24/7, and was a hilarious kind-hearted, happy dude. Now let's say he was drinking with his friend and drove recklessly, and crashed, would you judge him the same way as you are Ryan Dunn? Or is it somehow different for some strange reason? In my opinion, you're a prick. I never said he was a terrible person, I was jsut saying so many people shouldnt be saying how great he was when he went out drunk driving and put many innocent people at risk. So we should ignore the fact that he was a great guy before his death because he drank drive? You sir, are an ignorant fool. I love Ryan Dunn to death. So why should I just throw away my love for him just because he died of drink driving? So if your mother died of drink driving or jumping out of a window, would you throw away your love for her before just because she died of her own fault? Yes he did died because he was drunk but nonetheless, he was one funny bastard back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrpain Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 (edited) Ryan's new movie, Living Will Ironic that he was playing a dead guy. The trailer said it came out 2010 fall but I never heard of it before. Shame, looks like a fun movie. EDIT: sh*t, double post. Sorry. EDIT EDIT: Just did a quick Google search. This movie did came out in 2010, I just never heard of it before. Still ironic he was playing a dead guy. Might go find the DVD soon. Edited June 23, 2011 by mrpain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthYENIK Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 This is a clip from a documentary about the CKY videos. Go to 6:45. NSFW I busted out the DVDs today and watched this. It was pretty weird to watch that part now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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