CygnusX1 Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 As data flows in from NASA's Messenger, Science is forced to rewrite almost everything they've published about Mercury, this nearby celestial body. Which forces me to wonder, if they could be so wrong about something so nearby, how can they possibly be anywhere close to reality on anything outside our Solar System? My username, in honor of the first Black Hole. I wonder now, do they even exist? Science never shook my faith. And now, I think I have the same chuckle for 'science' that they've had for 'christfags'. Kudos to the scientists sweating away in anon to make our cells smaller, TVs thinner, etc. If you want sauce, just google 'nasa messenger'. My $20USD cell can't pasta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGModder Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Wait, what? Are you trying to say science is not always right? Is that what this thread is about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waste Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Holy crap! A THEORY that wasn't 100% correct. Those dirty bastard liars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidamelo Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 I didn't understand anything!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adler Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Science never shook my faith. Science has been wrong in the past but at least it's admitted its faults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CygnusX1 Posted June 19, 2011 Author Share Posted June 19, 2011 Yes, science is very good about correcting their misconceptions, and I don't fault them, considering the vast distances and 'out of human observable' signals they have to deal with. I'm suggesting that if they can be so wrong about the composition and origin of something so nearby and comparatively easily observable, how could they possibly have any accuracy regarding anything even more obscure? This is less an attack on the observers and more to point out that todays tools are inadequite for accurate conclusions. In other words, expect everything to be as wrong as the consensus on Mercury. And no, I don't expect the majority of readers to understand my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adler Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 wrong about the composition and origin of something so nearby and comparatively easily observable There is the boundary known as space between us and Mercury. It'd be easier to examine once we've actually stepped foot on its surface or merely brushed its atmosphere. We were also wrong about two continents that existed between Europe and India to the west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CygnusX1 Posted June 19, 2011 Author Share Posted June 19, 2011 snip You obviously have grasped my concept. Would you agree there must be an exponential error rate based on distance? So...where does Science really stand? Regarding the Universe, excluding practicle science, those results are displayed in malls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adler Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Regarding the Universe, you should probably ask K^2 that one haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tchuck Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 snip You obviously have grasped my concept. Would you agree there must be an exponential error rate based on distance? So...where does Science really stand? Regarding the Universe, excluding practicle science, those results are displayed in malls. I wouldn't say there's an exponential error based on distance. But I'd guess most theories concerning space and it's bodies are pretty much that, theories. We could be completely wrong about how Black Holes work or if they exist or whatever. All the scientists have to work with is observation, and a set of rules about how things are supposed to work, so they could be wrong. But does it matter, really? Most of the theories regarding space, as far as I know, don't have much use in our practical lives yet, so doesn't really affect us if black holes work the current way or we find out they don't. What matters is that science recognizes it mistakes, and eventually gets the right answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G The Generous Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 science is a lie! as always so why?back in the day,when people didn't had nice cloth,didn't had car,war,and sh*t that we used to living with now,are "brainless" kind,most of us used to believe in our own god back in the day,where some one believe some thing strange that was made by miracle,and use it as a proof to make many people believe to some fake god that not real.so back in the day god is reference as science. so now,people is getting grow up and our knowledge is rich.but the problem is,everything are made by natural,how human suppose to know it? of course,people know how to create fire,build a house,create weapon,we use natural enviroment as a useful equipment for a long time,we understand how it work as our experience about natural is very rich. that is how we supposed to know how natural work,but i never agree in the way how science prove them by math and some f*cking theories.c'mon,you go to school,teacher teach some math,theory,and some number and prove you that this sh*t work by them and that,all by number,lol,how the f*ck natural stuff work by a number,why science know them for sure when they not "made" from natural? well,it's hard to explain,but when someone called himself a scientist,most of people will believe him because he is a genius,he know how stuff work.but in fact,he know it because he know it in his theory,not from what it truly is,and then he use his own theory and prove it to the world,and most of people believe in his theory,and then his theory was written in book and spread out for people many year,and after day and year,his theory is used as science truth. and then oneday he found himself like a god,just like back in the day,he use his theory proof to prove that science is our new god.so after that they can create their own theory to "control" the world for their own good,of course some of it are really useful for us as well. so what we know about science,are just theories,not what it truly is.the world is a huge natural resource,and some of it are mysterious enough that no one have clue to prove how it work.so i used to believe in myself,believe in what i know,no matter it right or wrong,but i live for the truth,not for a lie. you can call me crazy,paranoia,conspiracy theory or whatever,... i just tell my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tchuck Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 science is a lie! as always so why?back in the day,when people didn't had nice cloth,didn't had car,war,and sh*t that we used to living with now,are "brainless" kind,most of us used to believe in our own god back in the day,where some one believe some thing strange that was made by miracle,and use it as a proof to make many people believe to some fake god that not real.so back in the day god is reference as science. so now,people is getting grow up and our knowledge is rich.but the problem is,everything are made by natural,how human suppose to know it? of course,people know how to create fire,build a house,create weapon,we use natural enviroment as a useful equipment for a long time,we understand how it work as our experience about natural is very rich. that is how we supposed to know how natural work,but i never agree in the way how science prove them by math and some f*cking theories.c'mon,you go to school,teacher teach some math,theory,and some number and prove you that this sh*t work by them and that,all by number,lol,how the f*ck natural stuff work by a number,why science know them for sure when they not "made" from natural? well,it's hard to explain,but when someone called himself a scientist,most of people will believe him because he is a genius,he know how stuff work.but in fact,he know it because he know it in his theory,not from what it truly is,and then he use his own theory and prove it to the world,and most of people believe in his theory,and then his theory was written in book and spread out for people many year,and after day and year,his theory is used as science truth. and then oneday he found himself like a god,just like back in the day,he use his theory proof to prove that science is our new god.so after that they can create their own theory to "control" the world for their own good,of course some of it are really useful for us as well. so what we know about science,are just theories,not what it truly is.the world is a huge natural resource,and some of it are mysterious enough that no one have clue to prove how it work.so i used to believe in myself,believe in what i know,no matter it right or wrong,but i live for the truth,not for a lie. you can call me crazy,paranoia,conspiracy theory or whatever,... i just tell my opinion. What is real anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinatown Wars Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 The science is a lie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 snip You obviously have grasped my concept. Would you agree there must be an exponential error rate based on distance? So...where does Science really stand? Regarding the Universe, excluding practicle science, those results are displayed in malls. Whatever you're selling, I'll take five! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhoda Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 You got a source on this? I'm finding it a bit overboard that everything they thought they knew about Mercury was wrong. What are we talking? Atmosphere? Gravity? Colour? Throw me a bone here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G The Generous Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 What is real anyway? what you living with now is as real as it get. believe in your own theory about how stuff work.no matter how it real or not,science is not already real anyway .human have same idea and it always keep that way,they still don't care it real or not. just like when you don't believe in ghost,then there are thousand of people think about the same thing,but when you see it you will realize that you is a lonely one to knew the truth. to be truth,math and physical education to me are sh*t.i never focus on them in class back in the day,i just love to learn literature and creavity stuff in school since it come in very useful in the rest of my life.math is a bit important to set thing up in right way but after primary school i have no idea why math education teach us a bunch of stuff that come in worthless in life.they have nothing to do useful in life imo hope in the future people will know how to spend their time to do useful thing to our life,for our own good instead of making lie,making bad thing for ourselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freak2121 Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 What is real anyway? what you living with now is as real as it get. believe in your own theory about how stuff work.no matter how it real or not,science is not already real anyway .human have same idea and it always keep that way,they still don't care it real or not. just like when you don't believe in ghost,then there are thousand of people think about the same thing,but when you see it you will realize that you is a lonely one to knew the truth. to be truth,math and physical education to me are sh*t.i never focus on them in class back in the day,i just love to learn literature and creavity stuff in school since it come in very useful in the rest of my life.math is a bit important to set thing up in right way but after primary school i have no idea why math education teach us a bunch of stuff that come in worthless in life.they have nothing to do useful in life imo hope in the future people will know how to spend their time to do useful thing to our life,for our own good instead of making lie,making bad thing for ourselves I'm glad the rest of the world doesn't have the same mindset as you. That said, what has to be rewritten about Mercury?What it's made up of? It's atmosphere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prometheus Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 (edited) The cake is a lie! Oh wait! @badboy_zay: Thats what you think, they don't teach you Math for no reason, you know. Edited June 19, 2011 by PrometheusX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G The Generous Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 I'm glad the rest of the world doesn't have the same mindset as you. lol,and then i'm glad that the rest of the world are the people that not believed in themselves and spend their life to working for science instead of enjoy it . no criticism Thats what you think, they don't teach you Math for no reason, you know. yup,so that after all we use those thing to work for them not for our own good.we spend a day at company just for them.but the reason why we need to do it is for money,without money we can live well.so after all even if we hate work we still need to go to work.just for them. of course everyone need to work,without work everything would be crazy and disorder. but if we live for freedom then it not the matter.freedom is not to be free but to be wise.even if freedom made you to be a real bad man,one day you will realize that bad is bad and it turn out you into a good guy with a good experience in life.or could keep you a bad man since you found out it the good way for your life. everyday i have to go to work,and half of my value day is waste for money.can't escape since it the best way to keep my family good.that's why i hope one day we could be free and everyday is a good day instead of working and do "usual" stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prometheus Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Thats what you think, they don't teach you Math for no reason, you know. yup,so that after all we use those thing to work for them not for our own good.we spend a day at company just for them.but the reason why we need to do it is for money,without money we can live well.so after all even if we hate work we still need to go to work.just for them. everyday i have to go to work,and half of my value day is waste for money.can't escape since it the best way to keep my family good.that's why i hope one day we could be free and everyday is a good day instead of working and do "usual" stuff You do the work "just for them" because you want the money, like you said, right? And you will be free one day for the rest of your life, when you retire (hopefully). OK, back on topic: All the information about mercury was wrong? unbelievable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G The Generous Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Thats what you think, they don't teach you Math for no reason, you know. yup,so that after all we use those thing to work for them not for our own good.we spend a day at company just for them.but the reason why we need to do it is for money,without money we can live well.so after all even if we hate work we still need to go to work.just for them. everyday i have to go to work,and half of my value day is waste for money.can't escape since it the best way to keep my family good.that's why i hope one day we could be free and everyday is a good day instead of working and do "usual" stuff You do the work "just for them" because you want the money, like you said, right? And you will be free one day for the rest of your life, when you retire (hopefully). OK, back on topic: All the information about mercury was wrong? unbelievable! lol.what the hell i suppose to do when i'm retire?sitting down and drinking tea with some old folk since i'm too old to go around,lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinski Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Science is always wrong. It's all about not getting things right or or not knowing everything. If science thought we knew everything, it'd stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prometheus Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Thats what you think, they don't teach you Math for no reason, you know. yup,so that after all we use those thing to work for them not for our own good.we spend a day at company just for them.but the reason why we need to do it is for money,without money we can live well.so after all even if we hate work we still need to go to work.just for them. everyday i have to go to work,and half of my value day is waste for money.can't escape since it the best way to keep my family good.that's why i hope one day we could be free and everyday is a good day instead of working and do "usual" stuff You do the work "just for them" because you want the money, like you said, right? And you will be free one day for the rest of your life, when you retire (hopefully). OK, back on topic: All the information about mercury was wrong? unbelievable! lol.what the hell i suppose to do when i'm retire?sitting down and drinking tea with some old folk since i'm too old to go around,lol You said you hope one day you will be free, there you go, well its almost free. Also, you don't know what might happen at 2050 or something. Back on topic again: I still can't believe all that information about mercury was wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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