Official Video Production Topic

[DeeperRed]

Any issues with rolling shutter? I can't stand that with DSLRS.

I have never really had rolling shutter problems with any DSLR's when there attached to a decent shoulder rig. Trying to use one free-hand however is a different issue all together. Ive had 3 second long shots ruined by rolling shutter.

 

After Effects CS6 comes with a feature to supposedly automatically fix the footage but I have my doubts.

[Antinark]

Any issues with rolling shutter? I can't stand that with DSLRS.

I have never really had rolling shutter problems with any DSLR's when there attached to a decent shoulder rig. Trying to use one free-hand however is a different issue all together. Ive had 3 second long shots ruined by rolling shutter.

 

After Effects CS6 comes with a feature to supposedly automatically fix the footage but I have my doubts.

No doubt a good operator (and a better editor) can fix any issue. But you must admit that DSLR's do provide limitations in terms of camera movement. I've had to use them a lot for documentary work (because they're cheap and accessible) and I can't tell you how many problems I've had with them over the past couple of years. However, when you have the right grip and lighting package you can make even the sh*ttiest format look stellar.

 

 

 

If any of you are Canadian you'll probably remember these ads from your childhood. I threw together this little video as an editing exercise for a multimedia course i was taking at the time.

[DeeperRed]

Any issues with rolling shutter? I can't stand that with DSLRS.

I have never really had rolling shutter problems with any DSLR's when there attached to a decent shoulder rig. Trying to use one free-hand however is a different issue all together. Ive had 3 second long shots ruined by rolling shutter.

 

After Effects CS6 comes with a feature to supposedly automatically fix the footage but I have my doubts.

No doubt a good operator (and a better editor) can fix any issue. But you must admit that DSLR's do provide limitations in terms of camera movement. I've had to use them a lot for documentary work (because they're cheap and accessible) and I can't tell you how many problems I've had with them over the past couple of years. However, when you have the right grip and lighting package you can make even the sh*ttiest format look stellar.

DSLR's for me are f*cking amazing. I don't know about documentaries but short films/music videos look amazing. No rolling shutter at all, I am going to make my first proper short on DSLR set-up. I have my faith in it.

[Mister Pink]

I've been finally doing some tests on my 7D. The quality is superb. I'm really blown away. I've had my camera since August last but the card slot was faulty and was without my camera for months.

 

However, we're now working on some shorts. I'm currently writing one and we're shooting my friends shortly.

 

I'll edit this post later to show you guys. I've messed with the grading and it's over the top on both and the second on it more of an excercise to see how it runs 50% slowed down.

 

 

 

EDIT: I redone the video and slowed the pouring part down to 10%. You can see the frames are gone and the quality ruined. However, I don't have Twixtor or any such thing. I was just seeing what it looked like whilst experimenting with uploading for the web.

 

 

 

Just experimenting with settings and messing up all the grading. Again testing out uploading or the web.

Edited May 25, 2012 by ThePinkFloydSound

[Dystopia]

For anyone into documentaries, I'm a film student and recently finished a punk rock ten minute music documentary on a legendary place situated in my hometown. Please take a watch!

 

Synop.

 

Espy Creative and Metal Dragon Media present a Newport film.

 

While examining the influence of the 'punk' movement in Newport, we explore the passion and grit within the four walls of the world renowned small music venue Tj's in Newport from the eyes of 4 high passionate individuals. With specific insight into the legendary John Sicolo and the legacy he left behind.

Here is the link;

 

 

 

We plan to take this project further and use this as a taster to get funding for a feature length from British commisioning companies. If you have time check out the website link in the youtube description also if your interested in the work and want to watch more!

Hope you enjoy it! (Watch with headphones, we included some nice bass tones for the mix.)

Edited June 20, 2012 by Dystopia

[Mister Pink]

Very, very impressed. Well done. I'd watch a feature about this. Punk is not my scene but bars like that have been. Really impressed, well done.

[DeeperRed]

Wow, Dystopia that was brilliant, really professional. What did you shoot on ? and if you don't mind me asking what was the crew size/budget like. I was looking at film schools in the UK but non really took my fancy, would you say its worth it ? And how hard is it to get in ?

 

Made a thread in general chat but Ill post it here as well.

 

 

 

Its my first proper short film I have made. It was done in 3 days on a budget of £250. No crew or professional actors just some mates to help me on set and my brother playing the main role.

 

It follows a man searching for his son in an abandoned city, using an Mp3 player to drown out his loneliness. I would really appreciate any feedback as I don't know myself whether I am good enough or not to pursue direction as a career. Even if you switch it off just tell me where and why so I know what to improve.

 

Thanks guys.

 

[Dystopia]

Cheers Ffloyd much respect.

 

@DeeperRed

 

I didn't really want to aim for the highest film school as I've heard bad things, Newport (Wales) is a VERY good course and SO EASY to get in. One of the lecturers here is quite famous in the documentary industry, so it's great. They don't believe in learning from books, it's all hands on get out there and make some stuff. Check it out!

 

Thanks for the feedback on my film, we shot the cut aways with a 550D and 600D (Cant beat this beauties) and one of the Panasonic AG cameras that takes P2 HD card for interviews (very expensive) but the quality of the DSLR's is much better, in a few years, when they create a rig that completely stabilises it for cheap, everyone will be using them. Edited in final cut pro, we have Avid here too but I like final cut more, don't know why.

 

That film is really great, you'll get into any film school with films like that no problem, although cut a showreel, you'll find at interviews people wont watch more than a couple of minutes and they look for story over everything else. I finished A levels with nothing to show, and got in, and now I'm making stuff like that. Definitely look up Newport film school, Asif Kapadia who made Senna studied here and look where he is now... Great course, definitely recommend it.

Edited June 28, 2012 by Dystopia

[DeeperRed]

Thanks man, I was also using a 550D for that. Thing has really helped me step up and teach myself focusing and produces wonderful imagery. I had a shoulder rig and a follow focus for that however I stuck to tripod/wheelchair most the time as my shoulder rig isn't the greatest, and yeah especially for stabilizing. Nikon really didn't know what they were setting off when they introduced filming in DLSR's.

 

Yeah well I have got much for a show reel at the moment, If I do go uni I am defiantly too late this year. I would rather just start out on a film production, a runner or anything and learn it that way and then use my pay to fund my own shorts for festivals etc learn/network while (hopefully) getting my name out there

[LCstuntman]

Any issues with rolling shutter? I can't stand that with DSLRS.

I have never really had rolling shutter problems with any DSLR's when there attached to a decent shoulder rig. Trying to use one free-hand however is a different issue all together. Ive had 3 second long shots ruined by rolling shutter.

 

After Effects CS6 comes with a feature to supposedly automatically fix the footage but I have my doubts.

Couldn't you just increase the shutter speed to >1000 to get rid of a lot of the more obvious rolling shutter? I've never tried it, just asking.

 

Also with my Canon 60D I sometimes randomly get the "Movie Recording Has Stopped Automatically" bullsh*t for no apparent reason. Has this happened to anyone else here with Canon DSLR's? I've seen lots of people have this issue and most say to get an SDHC card instead of an SD, but I have an SDHC and still have the problem occasionally.

[Dystopia]

 

Thanks man, I was also using a 550D for that. Thing has really helped me step up and teach myself focusing and produces wonderful imagery. I had a shoulder rig and a follow focus for that however I stuck to tripod/wheelchair most the time as my shoulder rig isn't the greatest, and yeah especially for stabilizing. Nikon really didn't know what they were setting off when they introduced filming in DLSR's.

 

Yeah well I have got much for a show reel at the moment, If I do go uni I am defiantly too late this year. I would rather just start out on a film production, a runner or anything and learn it that way and then use my pay to fund my own shorts for festivals etc learn/network while (hopefully) getting my name out there

Try and build your own rig if you can, highly recommend it, alternatively there are very cheap ones that work fine, don't spend too much on one.

Yeh Nikon really set it off, Canon is still more widely popular now and i'm suprised they haven't utilised this and brought a camera out then equals the 5D or betters it, but built for video and not photo, therefore fixing rolling shutter and stabilisation. Soon, and when it does, the world of video equipment will turn upside down.

 

Experience is key yes, the degree isnt what people look for in a filmmaker, especially in the UK, they look for the work you produced when finishing the course, because it's what sells you really. Runner is a good way to start

 

 

Also with my Canon 60D I sometimes randomly get the "Movie Recording Has Stopped Automatically" bullsh*t for no apparent reason. Has this happened to anyone else here with Canon DSLR's? I've seen lots of people have this issue and most say to get an SDHC card instead of an SD, but I have an SDHC and still have the problem occasionally.

 

The bigger the SD card, the less it messes you about from experience. The film I posted above contains a lot of 60D footage. Great camera, the screen is particularly useful.

As well you have to remember it's not built for recording, it's built for photo's. So it's going to glitch no matter what, it'll be ok after a few tries, so before taking a shot, take some test shots to guarantee it won't mess up. Have you got Magic Lantern firmware on your camera installed? Take a look if not, It greatly improves all of the above problems the DSLR's face.

 

*Mods, don't know what happened with last post, it glitched and deleted everything I wrote and wouldn't post any text, so just made another post, hope that's ok.

[Mister Pink]

I've never had any issues regarding my Canon stopping recording on my 7D. It's worrying hearing about all these issues people have.

 

Here's a test video I shot one day. It was just handheld footage I captured shooting in a BMX racing park. I wasn't shooting at 60FPS so the slo-mo stuff looks pretty bad. There's a change in aperture in one of the race-face shots too. My buddy made the music.

 

 

[Dystopia]

 

I've never had any issues regarding my Canon stopping recording on my 7D. It's worrying hearing about all these issues people have.

 

Here's a test video I shot one day. It was just handheld footage I captured shooting in a BMX racing park. I wasn't shooting at 60FPS so the slo-mo stuff looks pretty bad. There's a change in aperture in one of the race-face shots too. My buddy made the music.

 

 

Tried the 7D the other day, must say it's probably the best at handling the recording error thing, didn't happen once.

 

The test is good, nothing wrong with the slow-mo, it annoys me when people say about slow-mo being glitchy, 25fps slowed down can be be equally as effective as a high fps when done correctly, I thought it looked good anyway. Some of the shots are over exposed but looking at the sky I can't really nock it, sometimes there is certain exposure problems a DSLR can't handle, the subject is perfectly exposed anyway so the sky doesn't really need to be.

 

If your one for really smooth slow mo check out that Twixtor thing, it does some amazing stuff.

[LCstuntman]

 

Also with my Canon 60D I sometimes randomly get the "Movie Recording Has Stopped Automatically" bullsh*t for no apparent reason. Has this happened to anyone else here with Canon DSLR's? I've seen lots of people have this issue and most say to get an SDHC card instead of an SD, but I have an SDHC and still have the problem occasionally.

 

The bigger the SD card, the less it messes you about from experience. The film I posted above contains a lot of 60D footage. Great camera, the screen is particularly useful.

As well you have to remember it's not built for recording, it's built for photo's. So it's going to glitch no matter what, it'll be ok after a few tries, so before taking a shot, take some test shots to guarantee it won't mess up. Have you got Magic Lantern firmware on your camera installed? Take a look if not, It greatly improves all of the above problems the DSLR's face.

Yeah, I love the camera but it can be frustrating on the (rare) occasion that you will miss something crucial because the camera messed up. I had no idea something like Magic Lantern was even out there, after looking it up I'll definitely be trying it out, thanks for the heads up

 

And Twixtor is amazing although it can take some tinkering until you get a good result.

Edited July 4, 2012 by LCstuntman

[Dystopia]

Also with my Canon 60D I sometimes randomly get the "Movie Recording Has Stopped Automatically" bullsh*t for no apparent reason. Has this happened to anyone else here with Canon DSLR's? I've seen lots of people have this issue and most say to get an SDHC card instead of an SD, but I have an SDHC and still have the problem occasionally.

 

The bigger the SD card, the less it messes you about from experience. The film I posted above contains a lot of 60D footage. Great camera, the screen is particularly useful.

As well you have to remember it's not built for recording, it's built for photo's. So it's going to glitch no matter what, it'll be ok after a few tries, so before taking a shot, take some test shots to guarantee it won't mess up. Have you got Magic Lantern firmware on your camera installed? Take a look if not, It greatly improves all of the above problems the DSLR's face.

Yeah, I love the camera but it can be frustrating on the (rare) occasion that you will miss something crucial because the camera messed up. I had no idea something like Magic Lantern was even out there, after looking it up I'll definitely be trying it out, thanks for the heads up

 

And Twixtor is amazing although it can take some tinkering until you get a good result.

No problem dude, anytime!

 

 

[Mister Pink]

 

Tried the 7D the other day, must say it's probably the best at handling the recording error thing, didn't happen once.

 

The test is good, nothing wrong with the slow-mo, it annoys me when people say about slow-mo being glitchy, 25fps slowed down can be be equally as effective as a high fps when done correctly, I thought it looked good anyway. Some of the shots are over exposed but looking at the sky I can't really nock it, sometimes there is certain exposure problems a DSLR can't handle, the subject is perfectly exposed anyway so the sky doesn't really need to be.

 

If your one for really smooth slow mo check out that Twixtor thing, it does some amazing stuff.

Thanks for the feedback. Yes, I might have been harsh describing the slo-mo. I'm looking to get Twixtor. Do you know if it runs with FCP?

 

Also keep us updated with any developments with your docu.

Edited July 11, 2012 by ThePinkFloydSound

[Dystopia]

 

Thanks for the feedback. Yes, I might have been harsh describing the slo-mo. I'm looking to get Twixtor. Do you know if it runs with FCP?

 

Also keep us updated with any developments with your docu.   

 

It runs on pretty much any worthy video editing software, not those crappy high rated interview reviewed ones. I mean like Premier Pro, FCP, Avid Media Composer, After Effects, the proffesional tools. It's compatible with all of those.

 

And yeah will do mate!

[Sauriouz]

Hey guys! I made a Grand Theft Auto inspired video based off of GTA 3 and GTA IV.

Bringing back the PC version where cheats were typed in for example "BangBangBang" to make all cars explode, and if you repeatedly typed it, you could see the cars shoot up literally to space. Well that is the basic concept!

 

Check it out! I hope you guys like it!

 

 

[DeeperRed]

Hey peeps,

 

Here is a fresh cut of the short film above. It's just shorter, so if you watched the other one already there's really nothing to see here. If you haven't seen it and have 12 minutes to spare then please enjoy and most of all leave me some good criticism.

 

 

Edited August 21, 2012 by DeeperRed

[Kippers]

 

We figured that no one likes to donate to words on a page (unless you know, it's something that actually matters... like starving children), so we grabbed a 5D, a set of T 1.3 Zeiss Primes and a Steadicam rig from our buddy and shot a a little teaser trailer:

 

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This is brilliant. Did you ever find the rest of your funding? How much did that teaser boost the support you were given?

 

I only ask because a young director friend of mine is using Indiegogo at the moment to raise funds for his 3rd project and is really struggling, for that same reason you stated. No one's that interested in the words, even though he personally knows almost everyone he's broadcast to (Excluding those who see it though minor coverage in local papers).

 

 

As for me...i'm at University about to start 3rd year TV and Film Production. It's fairly Documentary heavy which i'm not a fan of, but this particular piece about an Art student with Duchenne Muscular Dystrophy, his exhibit and what it represents, from last year turned out rather nice and broadcast on University TV for a period.

 

I DOP'd

 

Decay of Duchenne:

 

 

 

Otherwise I tend to mess around with anyone willing to give an idea a go or on my own, in a less serious manner. I'm always behind camera but also in green here:

 

Connecting Four:

 

 

Fake DC Shoes ad: (Ignore the background I was in a sh*tty little flat)

 

 

 

 

Otherwise i've DOP'd a local based film (Crawley, where I reside) called 'Little District' (2011) which reached the less public areas of Cannes Film Festival this year. going to Cannes was blimmin' marvellous though.

Edited August 25, 2012 by kippers.

[Acehilm]

I'm planning on creating a short film where I'm hoping to film a skydive, and the preparation, sometime early January. A few mates and I have been planning to do a skydive for a while, and this will be my third. I thought that I'd try get some footage out of it this time and edit it.

 

I PM'd DeeperRed to get some information from him, and he told me that he had a Canon 500d. I found out that my sister has an earlier Canon 400d, with two lenses (not sure of the dimensions). I happy that I can use that, as I'm only a beginner. I'll be making a shoulder support soon, but wondering if anyone has any ideas or plans on creating one.

 

One of my mates has a GoPro outdoor kit which he's allowing me to use on the day. I think I use a head mount for it. I actually met a bloke who is a 'fun jumper' on my first jump, and I'm hoping to use one of his helmets on the day to mount it (the skydive helmets usually have that attachment for a camera).

 

My first jump back in 2010 and I had a blast. I was nervous and was caught up in the experience, (That's why I didn't arch when in freefall). I haven't filmed my last jump but this one was filmed by my skydiving mate. I didn't edit this or film this, he did.

 

 

 

This is the logo I'm going to use for my short films, THANKS to Arejai!

[Mister Pink]

I'm not sure if the 400D has live view when recording video. I presume so. I'd close the aperture as you'll want to see things in the distance, more sharper. So if it's set to manual, I'd have the F stop set to around F16. Set the ISO to 100 or 200 (possibly 400 for the 400D's sensor) for minumum grain, should be achieveable with the amount of light you will have up there and you can set the film speed to about 400. Obviously, this is just me imagining potential settings. Weather, light, time of day etc will come in to play so you'll need to tweak the settings accordingly.

 

You might just be able to shoot automatic.

 

Good luck.

 

EDIT: Oh and I'm not sure how safe or what sort of apparatus you have to carry such a camera while free falling. I'm sure you can work some thing out.

Edited September 13, 2012 by ThePinkFloydSound

[Acehilm]

I think you misunderstood. Before I go on, I also found out the 400d doesn't have video capture. In saying that, I'm going to hopefully be purchasing a Canon 600d perhaps. The reason I thought you misunderstood was because I would use the Canon for ground filming (before we aboard the aircraft). After I get footage on the ground with the 600d, I'd put on my friends GoPro2 camera (I'm guessing you've heard of that before) and attach it a skydivers helmet.

[Tommy34]

I created two teaser trailers so far for my literary works. For both I used Photoshop CS2 and After Effects CS3. I didn't use any actual film footage, nor 3D software. I also didn't have 3D plug ins for AE. However, trailer I released 15 days ago (Factory 21) received very good response. The second trailer I put on youtube last night.

 

First trailer is for my science fiction/dystopian set of stories Factory 21.

 

 

 

Second trailer is for my dark fantasy set of stories Legend of the Tyrant.

 

 

 

More info about these stories and many other interesting things I've done you can find at http://iron2112fist.blogspot.com/

If you have a moment comment on these. Or if you'd like to ask questions about how these were made I'd be more than happy to answer them.

Thanks.

[Acehilm]

I did an edit of my skydive video, seen above with Windows Live Movie Maker. It's okay I guess.

 

 

 

For the horses and other animals, it was just sample footage.

[Antinark]

Threw together a demo reel for some of the projects I've directed over the past couple of years.

 

Check it out here (bummer that you can't embed vimeo on this board)

 

The projects were shot on a variety of formats namely the RED One MX, Canon 7D, Canon 5D, Canon T21 Super 8 Ektachrome, GoPro Hero 2 and Kodak Double X 16mm BW,

 

In other news, I really want to get my hands on both the C300 and the Sony FS700. They seem like great cameras for doc shooting.

Edited October 18, 2012 by Antinark

[Otter]

Threw together a demo reel for some of the projects I've directed over the past couple of years.

 

Check it out here (bummer that you can't embed vimeo on this board)

 

The projects were shot on a variety of formats namely the RED One MX, Canon 7D, Super 8 Ektachrome, GoPro Hero 2 and Kodak Double X 16mm BW,

Love it!

 

Cut it down to a minute!

 

 

[Antinark]

Threw together a demo reel for some of the projects I've directed over the past couple of years.

 

Check it out here (bummer that you can't embed vimeo on this board)

 

The projects were shot on a variety of formats namely the RED One MX, Canon 7D, Super 8 Ektachrome, GoPro Hero 2 and Kodak Double X 16mm BW,

Love it!

 

Cut it down to a minute!

It was more a sizzle reel I did for school, they asked for 5 minutes and I balked. This was the compromise.

[Mister Pink]

 

Threw together a demo reel for some of the projects I've directed over the past couple of years.

 

Check it out here (bummer that you can't embed vimeo on this board)

 

The projects were shot on a variety of formats namely the RED One MX, Canon 7D, Canon 5D, Canon T21 Super 8 Ektachrome, GoPro Hero 2 and Kodak Double X 16mm BW,

 

In other news, I really want to get my hands on both the C300 and the Sony FS700. They seem like great cameras for doc shooting.

Nice one man.

 

Last video we shot... Just some stuff from the tour I was on with Mike Scala Band. Can't believe it's got over 10,000 hits already. It only got uploaded less than a month ago. I didn't do the edit, I would have left the Iphone footage out of it. Basically I shot the HD parts on my 7D and the busking is from my Flipcam and Iphone.

 

 

[Acehilm]

Here's a short rotoscope film I made.