coin-god Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 (edited) What's up guys. My father needs a new computer, so Im trading him mine for a new one. So here I am asking you guys for a decent build. Max budget: 1,000 Dollars. I would really like to stay lower is possible. (700-900) My country (if needed): Argentina. Here a 50 dollars diference is a 200 pesos diference. (1 U.S. dollar = 4.08450014 Argentine pesos) What I'm going to do with it: Play games, obviously. Programming (not a big deal) 3d Modeling. (3DMax/ZBrush can both get stuck sometimes on my current rig. I can't have MAX open for long, PC gets slow.) Work with Unreal 3 engine. Games I want to play: GTA IV (Im ok with medium settings and a reasonable FPS. I used to play it on 15fps when I had my nvidia9500 gt.) Call of Duty 5 (Max Settings) Black Ops (I may just play it a while to check it out, but I would like to be able to do it on Max settings) Red Orchestra 2 (Max Settings if possible, I would kill my entire family for this) GTA V (I know we know nothing, but I want my PC to be able to play it.... it should be sligthly more demanding than IV.. unless its a good port) Rise of Flight (Max settings if possible) If LA Noire gets to the PC, on decent settings. MAFIA II (Max Settings, couldn't finish the sonofabitch thanks to my vcard dieing) Additional Details: I have a 160GB HDD. It sucks, I have only 5% left. IMO twice that should be good enough, but if you think +360Gb wouldn't hurt my budget alot Im more than happy to hear suggestions. I like nvidia. (You may consider other options if you want) Not sure whether to go with 32 or 64 bits cpu. You guys tell me. If thouse nice computer cases with digital indicators for temperature and stuff are not really expensive, I would like to see some suggestions about them. I play at 1280x1024, don't really need more. Although sometimes I like to use my 32" LCD TV to play high end games.... f*cking awesome. Basicly I want this PC to last. I want to be able to play most upcomming games from the next couple of years. Let me know if there is anything else you need to know. Edited May 18, 2011 by goin-god Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoječ Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Can you post some links to Argentinian stores? Because you know, components' price vary significantly in many countries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coin-god Posted May 18, 2011 Author Share Posted May 18, 2011 (edited) Can you post some links to Argentinian stores? Because you know, components' price vary significantly in many countries No idea about them, so I just looked around and found this: http://confronte.com.ar/categoria/250,Computaci%C3%B3n.html http://www.ncbahia.com.ar/ http://home.mercadolibre.com.ar/computacion/ http://www.argentinacomputacion.com/rubro/R1034.asp#R1034 http://www.via-soft.com.ar/ Most seem to sell built ones. Edited May 18, 2011 by goin-god Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyablo_GTA Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Well goin-god me & mu friend r buying a gaming pc tomorrow with our saved budget on $850. Our specs- core2quad 2.8 ghz 2GB RAM 17"MONITOR WIRELESS KEYBOARD & MOUSE NVIDIA GEFORCE AND FEW OTHER GAMING THINGS. I HOPE THIS HELPS. ASK IF U REQUIRE MORE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Well goin-god me & mu friend r buying a gaming pc tomorrow with our saved budget on $850. Our specs-core2quad 2.8 ghz 2GB RAM 17"MONITOR WIRELESS KEYBOARD & MOUSE NVIDIA GEFORCE AND FEW OTHER GAMING THINGS. I HOPE THIS HELPS. ASK IF U REQUIRE MORE. Eh, sorry to tell you but you're wasting your money on that PC. It sucks and is outdated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoječ Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Well... who the hell buys C2Q CPUs? They are outdated. Back on topic: I've looked through these shops and... well, they seem to be hard to use or something, because I can barely find anything I need. So, I'll try to put together a rig using newegg (with lower budget in case components happen to be more expensive in your country). $224,99 Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819115072 $209,99 GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814130616 $129,99 ASRock P67 PRO3 (B3) LGA 1155 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813157230 $39,99 Seagate Barracuda ST3500413AS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16822148701 $69,99 Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820226095 $69,99 XFX Core Edition PRO550W (P1-550S-XXB9) 550W http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16817207013 $18,99 LG ELECTRONICS GH22NS50 Bulk http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16827136216 $35,99 NZXT GAMMA Classic Series http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16811146061 = $799,92 Here is an example. I've put there a very fast four core CPU, quick GPU with neat price tag, proper motherboard, fast 500GB HDD, 8GBs of RAM, high quality power supply, DVD recorder and computer case with good ventilation. Few alternatives: - i5-2500K has basically no alternative - You might also look for HD5870. Or the HD6870 if it happens to be cheap. HD6870 is slightly slower than GTX470, while HD5870 is slightly faster (but GTX470 has much higher OC potencial). - MSI P67A-C45 is also a great mobo with low price. Avoid Asrock P67 Pro3 SE edition. - Samsung HD502HJ is also a good example of proper HDD. - As for the RAM, I think that you can buy the cheapest ones from a trusted brand. Do not get four 2GBsticks - get two 4GB sticks instead. - OCZ StealthXStream2 600W is a good alternative in the PSU department. If you don't plan to overclock you rig you might a lower wattage PSU and save a few bucks. - As for the DVD burner, I'd just get the cheapest one - There are many good cases to be bought. Just make sure that the case you choose has a proper ventillation, it'd be also nice to find some reviews. It's advisable (but not mandatory) to get a case with bottom mounted PSU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyablo_GTA Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Well... who the hell buys C2Q CPUs? They are outdated. Back on topic: I've looked through these shops and... well, they seem to be hard to use or something, because I can barely find anything I need. So, I'll try to put together a rig using newegg (with lower budget in case components happen to be more expensive in your country). $224,99 Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819115072 $209,99 GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814130616 $129,99 ASRock P67 PRO3 (B3) LGA 1155 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813157230 $39,99 Seagate Barracuda ST3500413AS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16822148701 $69,99 Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820226095 $69,99 XFX Core Edition PRO550W (P1-550S-XXB9) 550W http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16817207013 $18,99 LG ELECTRONICS GH22NS50 Bulk http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16827136216 $35,99 NZXT GAMMA Classic Series http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16811146061 = $799,92 Here is an example. I've put there a very fast four core CPU, quick GPU with neat price tag, proper motherboard, fast 500GB HDD, 8GBs of RAM, high quality power supply, DVD recorder and computer case with good ventilation. Few alternatives: - i5-2500K has basically no alternative - You might also look for HD5870. Or the HD6870 if it happens to be cheap. HD6870 is slightly slower than GTX470, while HD5870 is slightly faster (but GTX470 has much higher OC potencial). - MSI P67A-C45 is also a great mobo with low price. Avoid Asrock P67 Pro3 SE edition. - Samsung HD502HJ is also a good example of proper HDD. - As for the RAM, I think that you can buy the cheapest ones from a trusted brand. Do not get four 2GBsticks - get two 4GB sticks instead. - OCZ StealthXStream2 600W is a good alternative in the PSU department. If you don't plan to overclock you rig you might a lower wattage PSU and save a few bucks. - As for the DVD burner, I'd just get the cheapest one - There are many good cases to be bought. Just make sure that the case you choose has a proper ventillation, it'd be also nice to find some reviews. It's advisable (but not mandatory) to get a case with bottom mounted PSU. Excellent yojo2 you not only gave goin-god a good set but I think these should work for me too,maybe the price will be a bit more in London but it would wirhin my $850 budget. Actuallly I had no intention for a c2q but my dad does like it much. But I am sure whether LG is locally available at my place but I m no expert like yojo. Atm I m using c2d a very old 3 years back set and an i-3 laptop with intel g33. I will talk about this with ny friend tonight. You guys say it as if you change pc,s every year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coin-god Posted May 18, 2011 Author Share Posted May 18, 2011 (edited) Well goin-god me & mu friend r buying a gaming pc tomorrow with our saved budget on $850. Our specs-core2quad 2.8 ghz 2GB RAM 17"MONITOR WIRELESS KEYBOARD & MOUSE NVIDIA GEFORCE AND FEW OTHER GAMING THINGS. I HOPE THIS HELPS. ASK IF U REQUIRE MORE. It dosnt. You only mentioned the cpu and ram. And I have mouse, monitor and stuff. --- yojo2: Im cheking out your suggestion, thanks alot bud. edit: I have the LG GH22NS50 on my current rig hah. Edited May 18, 2011 by goin-god Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyablo_GTA Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 Well I bought my pc and I m posting from it. Thanks to yojo2 all I didnt get was i5- sandy bridge and gtx470. My new pc specs- Case from i-ball and lg monitor 4gb ddr3 ram core i-5 some other edition I dont remeber clearly 3.3ghz geforce gtx 380 samptron full chipset samsung hd502hj 500gb and other things like dvd burner,speakers,a new ps2 controller,a wireless keyboard & a mouse and rest other things like chipset from amd all total cost me $823.78 and ot was within my budget though expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinky12 Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 Them Z68 chipset boards are out which some models have Lucid Logix Virtu You get the best of both worlds, Intel Quicksync and discrete graphics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coin-god Posted May 19, 2011 Author Share Posted May 19, 2011 Someone has a diferent suggestion? If not, Im most probably getting what yojo said, on this weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driftking120 Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 I've got a bit better of a sugestion though it will go about 75$ over your budget, though i'm sure that that isn't too much more money, well anyways, Case: Rosewill Future Gaming ATX Mid-Tower PSU: Kingwin Lazer Platium Series 550w 80-Plus Platium Motherboard: MSI Z68A GD-80 (B3) CPU: Intel Core i5 2500k GPU: MSI 560-Ti Hawk Edition RAM: Kingston X2 Grey Series 4GB(2x4GB) 1600mhz DDR3 Destop Memory HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 7200rpm Optical Drive: Asus Black 24x CD/DVD Drive Total is just over $1000, Though you get a platium certified psu instead of a bronze certified which would save you a bit on your electric bill, Also you get a 1tb HDD which only costs $65, And you get a pretty cool looking computer case, Also you got z68 instead of p67 so you can have alot more goodies . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leik oh em jeez! Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 (edited) Definately get a 1Tb hard drive. You'll never run out of space and you can get them for as little as $50 pretty easily. Would also get a 22" monitor if I was you. I've seen good quality HP 22" LCDs sell for $70, so it shouldn't be too hard to find one. And personally, I think buying a board with a recently released chipset is a waste of money. In terms of real world performance, it can't be THAT MUCH of a difference in say a 790i/Core2Quad than a Z68/i5. Especially when you consider that you could could pick up a 790i and Core 2 Quad for $100 each if you look hard enough. I mean that's $200 vs $455. You could easily use the saved money to buy a bigger monitor and a faster graphics card. That is assuming of course that you don't plan on upgrading your CPU to the latest/greatest within two or three years, and IF Intel will even release a better CPU on that socket. People can talk about "future-proofing" all they want. But honestly, Intel will probably have a new socket (or two) out by the time you need to upgrade again. Meaning all the extra money spent to "future-proof" your system will be wasted because once again they'll have a new socket/chipset out. It was only like a year ago that x58 and i7 920 was the "must have" hardware. So in my opinion, it's better to stay about a generation behind as far as CPU/Chipset. You'll still get at least 90% of the performance for less than half the price. Example: at stock speeds, a Q6600 and GTX580 beat an i5 2500 and GTX560 Ti by about 10,000 in 3DMark 11. Edited May 19, 2011 by leik oh em jeez! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YankeesPwnMets Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 ^^^ the one above is good. And damn, that's the first 80 PLUS Platinum PSU I've seen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coin-god Posted May 20, 2011 Author Share Posted May 20, 2011 Sorry if this is a stupid question: If I get a new monitor, and I keep my old one. Would I be able to use both? And how is that done? Do I need anything else (better PSU maybe)? I remember my gf 9500gt had 2 monitor connectors, but is it as easy as connecting both monitors? I just think It would make my life easier when working on stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driftking120 Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 No, You cant use 2 monitors on a Nvidia graphics card as on Nvidia you need two graphics cards to run more then one monitor, ATI/AMD on the other hand you can hook up as many monitors as you want because ATI/AMD has Eyefinity, Which is a thing for multiple monitors, Also getting a recent chipset is a good idea because usually all manufactures inprove in some way as the chipsets go by, one thing thats good about the newer chipset is on MSI mainboards, And some other manufactures have simular things, Is that you can charge you cellphones, wireless mice, wireless keyboards, iPods, etc with the computer on or off, Which i find a useful feature, Also usually the chipsets inprove in power draw over the generations, Which will save you money in the longrun, also you probably would probably have the computer last longer, As about all companies inprove their capacitors, power delivery, thermal design, etc, so thats my opinion . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leik oh em jeez! Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 (edited) You can run up to two monitor per NVidia GPU. So YES, you can use both monitors. No additional hardware is required you just hook them both up and enable the secondary in display properties. So yes, it is as easy as just hooking both monitors up. I'm using thre 22" monitors now and could NEVER go back to using one. I just setup a secondary system for video capture with my 17" monitor the other night. The next day I got on ebay and bought another matching monitor for that system because I couldn't stand only having one. It's GREAT for modeling because you can have reference pictures up on one monitor while you've got your modeling program on the other. PLUS, if you were to buy another 17" monitor (look on ebay, I got one $18 shipped.), you could have three and play GTA IV across all of them. But this would require a second graphics card, which could be low-power cheap-o card. So for as little as another $40 or so upgrade, you could have a surround gaming system. Trust me on this, I'm like the multi-monitor King. Check pages 82 and 83 of the Desktop thread to see my setup. @Driftking120: Yes, newer chipsets are SLIGHTLY more efficient. You probably save on average $5 a year, if that; versus saving $150 on the motherboard and another $150 on the CPU. The only way it will save you money in the long run is if you keep the computer and use it everyday for 20+ years without upgrading. And my HP motheboards can charge USB devices when off. That's not MSI exclusive. How long a computer lasts depends on the quality of the components. You'd be better of with a slightly older EVGA board than a brand new ECS Elitegroup. Edited May 20, 2011 by leik oh em jeez! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coin-god Posted May 20, 2011 Author Share Posted May 20, 2011 (edited) Sounds totally awesome. Thanks for the idea man. So, I guess... yojo suggestion + new monitor + 1Tb HDD instead of what he suggested. I'll also have to get Win7 64bit if I wanna use that 8gb of ram. Are there any big compatibility issues I should know of? With using 64bit Windows, that is. Edited May 20, 2011 by goin-god Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leik oh em jeez! Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Obviously if you can't find a cheap 1Tb drive, a 500Gb would do. But usually a 1Tb drive can be found pretty cheap. (Make sure it's 7200rpm though.) And as far as I've seen, the only issue issue I've had with 7 x64 is some minor glitching in Z Modeler 2, had the same problem in Vista. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinky12 Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 There are quite a few 80Plus Platinum PSUs According to the 80Plus site: PSU with 80Plus Platinum/Total PSU from entire 80Plus range 1. Delta Electronics, Inc.---2/85 2. Enermax Technology Corporation---2/66 3. FSP Technology Inc.---1/266 4. Greatwall---4/42 5. HIGH POWER---2/48 6. HuntKey---1/34 7. Infineon Technologies Ltd.---1/1 8. Kingwin---1/14 9. Lenovo---3/36 10. SAMA---1/19 11. Sea Sonic Electronics Co., Ltd.---2/76 12. Super Flower---5/76 And apparently Intel also makes PSU, probably for servers. It has 2 in all categories except Gold and Platinum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoječ Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Though you get a platium certified psu instead of a bronze certified which would save you a bit on your electric bill Actually, going from Bronze to Platinum doesn't really make that much difference. I don't think you'll ever save enough money to cover the extra cost of the PSU. Nonetheless, this Kingwin is really top notch SuperFlower (the producer of Kingwin) did really great job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coin-god Posted June 3, 2011 Author Share Posted June 3, 2011 Im getting the new pc this tuesday. Thank you guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewie Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 (edited) Lite On CD Drive $20 AMD 6870 $168 XFX 650w PSU $70 Windows 7 Home Premium $100 23inch LG Monitor $160 Thermaltake Case $30 CPU, RAM, HDD, and Motherboard Bundle $295 Edited June 4, 2011 by kamuran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewie Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 For some reason, I can't add anymore text to that post because it will mess everything up. Anyways, the total is $843. This is what I'm going to buy with my first build in July. Anyone have suggestions if those parts are good or what I should do with them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WastedEngland Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Lite On CD Drive $20XFX 650w PSU $70 I have both of these and i'd recommend them when buying with a budget in mind. The Lite on drive is great, good speeds and it it's noise levels are fairly decent for the price. Another point that's purely cosmetic is that similar to that picture on tigerdirect.com it is more of a dark gray then black (however it's not as gray as it is in that particular image) that being said your Thermaltake case looks like a similar shade so it hopefully won't look odd. As for the XFX 650w, I have the modular model rather than that non-modular one and last month I had to send mine back to the supplier after 6 months of use as it developed a cracking-hissing sound when my computer was under load. This was the older version though, it had a lime green fan rather than the grey fan on newer models, hopefully this sign of change in the models means the part that was at fault was changed also. I now have the grey fanned model and havn't noticed any problems but it's still early days. I havn't got much experience with PSU's but I'd say the fan could be quieter, probably one of the loudest at idle and that's competing with 2 CPU fans, 4 120mm fans and a 200m fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sivispacem Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 I was going to suggest the Samsung Super Writemaster SS222/223. Great drives and only a tenner. Even reads CDs that look like they've been sandpapered- well, at least, my one does. AMD Ryzen 5900X (4.65GHz All-Core PBO2) | Gigabye X570S Pro | 32GB G-Skill Trident Z RGB 3600MHz CL16 EK-Quantum Reflection D5 | XSPC D5 PWM | TechN/Heatkiller Blocks | HardwareLabs GTS & GTX 360 Radiators Corsair AX750 | Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic XL | EVGA GeForce RTX2080 XC @2055MHz | Sabrant Rocket Plus 1TB Sabrant Rocket 2TB | Samsung 970 Evo 1TB | 2x ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q | Q Acoustics 2010i | Sabaj A4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirst Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 That's a really decent price for that motherboard bundle. But aren't AM3 board triple channel? Wouldn't you be better with 3x 2GB Dimms? Or am I talking rubbish? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoječ Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Only LGA1366 boards support Triple Channel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirst Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Only LGA1366 boards support Triple Channel. Ah right thanks for clearing that up, I wasn't 100% sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prometheus Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 You might want to reconsider this. I found Tiger Direct. They ship their parts internationally. Motherboard | $105 GIGABYTE GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 P67 USB3 ATX Processor | $219 Intel Core i5-2500K Graphics Card | $299 Zotac GTX 480 1536MB GDDR5 Memory | $83 Patriot 8GB(2x4GB) DDR3 1333MHz 9-9-9-24 Hard Drive | $59 Seagate Barracuda 1TB SATA 6Gbps 7200RPM 32MB Power Supply | $69 XFX Core Edition Power Supply 550W 80 Plus Bronze Optical Drive | $22 Asus 24X Internal DVD Burner Case | $49 NZXT M59 Gaming Mid Tower Case Total | $899 w/ Rebate | $849 Yes its a little expensive, but the best at this budget (in tigerdirect). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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