UserCommenter Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 Its obvious from IV that the ps3 didn't hold xbox back at all. Considering rockstar made it for the xbox the ported it over to the ps3. Same with all multi-platform games. Its always ported straight from xbox to the ps3 because its easier that way. Worse for ps3 players. Have a look at LA Noire before you say that. They did that one on the PS3 and then ported it to the 360, and the 360 version suffers because of it. The fact is, any exclusive is going to have a better chance than a port will, no matter which way it goes. Yeah i am getting a little bugged by your incorrectness. I suppose you learn from your mistakes. I am with jnzooger that PS3 added the motion controller to help compete with the wii, who was and still is leaps and bounds ahead in terms of sales. I have a PS3 but i am still pretty sure that it was a last minute add-on. I'm not incorrect at all. Sorry I don't care too much about LA Noire and didn't at all read up on it. Just now seen and ps3 did make the lead. Though from I just read it came out for the better and the problems xbox might be experiencing are not from the porting. If you did not know, the ps3 is harder to create games for and way easier to create on the xbox. Its why porting from xbox to ps3 never turns out good. You can't just make something hard instantly easy by doing it that way. So problems with the xbox I highly doubt is because of the porting. Though I'm sure if xbox does have a problem the ps3 does as well and its most likely a game error more then being a porting issue. Sixaxis did come around towards the end of the wii but it was implanted into the controllers before the wii was released. sony wanted to have some motion in the controller. The move idea came shortly after the wii was created though... So no my "incorrectness" is not incorrect. It is a fact. I still find it too much of a coincidence also i wouldn't say the PS3 would be harder to code, just different The sixaxis was sony's idea themselves for the controller. When the wii was created sony then copied their remote idea for motion sensing to create the move. The plans for move were created shortly after its release. Whats so hard to understand lol... PS3 is different thus making it harder. Most game creators have said its harder to code then the xbox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OchyGTA Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 Lets all just calm down a minute, it would be financial suicide for Rockstar to release GTA V on Wii 2 as an exclusive so thats already out the window. Also, who do you think will pay more for possibly one of the biggest cash cows in gaming history. Microsoft will out price any other gaming company and honestly, who will actually buy the next Wii console. After the Wii, I can't see them making something for serious gamers that is actually good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonstaMasha Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 I don't think GTA will ever cross Nintendo's lips. Nor any other mature game. Heard of a game called Chinatown Wars on the Nintendo DS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnzooger Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 The sixaxis was sony's idea themselves for the controller. When the wii was created sony then copied their remote idea for motion sensing to create the move. The plans for move were created shortly after its release. Whats so hard to understand lol... PS3 is different thus making it harder. Most game creators have said its harder to code then the xbox. I'm not about to argue this with you anymore, just look it up before you try to spew off opinion as fact. (Which you clearly didn't do.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UserCommenter Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 The sixaxis was sony's idea themselves for the controller. When the wii was created sony then copied their remote idea for motion sensing to create the move. The plans for move were created shortly after its release. Whats so hard to understand lol... PS3 is different thus making it harder. Most game creators have said its harder to code then the xbox. I'm not about to argue this with you anymore, just look it up before you try to spew off opinion as fact. (Which you clearly didn't do.) Really? Because I tried to give the facts straight to your face and you go on saying my facts our opinions. I mean I've been part of the playstation forums since 2003 and have discussed there much about the ps3. I know what happened which you obviously do not. I told you the move idea came from the wii. The sixaxis idea did not. Maybe you should research yourself before tellings others too and act like your the person who knows more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwandilibro Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 f*ck no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnzooger Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 (edited) The sixaxis was sony's idea themselves for the controller. When the wii was created sony then copied their remote idea for motion sensing to create the move. The plans for move were created shortly after its release. Whats so hard to understand lol... PS3 is different thus making it harder. Most game creators have said its harder to code then the xbox. I'm not about to argue this with you anymore, just look it up before you try to spew off opinion as fact. (Which you clearly didn't do.) Really? Because I tried to give the facts straight to your face and you go on saying my facts our opinions. I mean I've been part of the playstation forums since 2003 and have discussed there much about the ps3. I know what happened which you obviously do not. I told you the move idea came from the wii. The sixaxis idea did not. Maybe you should research yourself before tellings others too and act like your the person who knows more. Ok, and I've been part of the PlayStation Underground community and a member of the Gamer Advisory Panel since the late 90s. The fact that you are still trying to argue after I dropped it shows where you stand. You obviously think you are right and thus won't listen to anyone else, so continuing this is pointless. If anyone wants to know who is correct, they can do the same research I did. Edit: Btw, for anyone that doesn't want to do the research, I will do it for you right here with a simple timeline of events relating to motion control: May 13, 2004 - Nintendo spoke of the "Revolution" at E3 May 17, 2005 - Sony shows a non-playable PlayStation3 (PS3) with the "boomerang" controller at E3 May 17, 2005 - Nintendo shows the Wii for the first time but doesn't show the motion controls at E3 October 14, 2005 - Wii Remote shown at Tokyo Game Show (TGS) January 5, 2006 - SIXAXIS is shown in prototype form for the first time at Consumer Electronics Show (CES) May 9, 2006 - Incognito Entertainment recieves development motion-sensing controllers from Sony May 19, 2006 - Sony annouced that the "boomerang" was "was very clearly designed as a design concept, and was never intended to be the final controller, despite what everybody said about it" at E3 May 19, 2006 - Warhawk from Incognito is the only PS3 game shown to support motion control at E3 November 11, 2006 - PS3 is launched in Japan November 17, 2006 - PS3 is launched in the USA November 19, 2006 - Wii is launched in the USA December 2, 2006 - Wii is launched in Japan Feburary 26, 2007 - Phil Harrison says rumble is "the last generation feature" and "there will be specific game function controllers, [...] that do include vibration or feedback function -- not from us but from third parties." September 19, 2007 - Sony reveils the DualShock 3 at TGS Base your own opinion on these facts that can easily be backed up. Edited May 22, 2011 by jnzooger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KilnerLUFC Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 This topic, especially from what I read of it, shows how immature and narrow-minded some people can be. You mention Nintendo and everyone suddenly starts laughing and saying it's a child's console. I think that you lot are forgetting that Nintendo has been at the forefront of gaming up until the Wii, which only failed because alot of people weren't happy with the way it was getting treated by 3rd party companies, delivering sh*t upon sh*t of minigames, and the lack of 'serious' games. Nintendo itself is a great company, producing some of the biggest and best selling games of all time. Whereas it won't release on the Cafe first, I wouldn't be that surprised at seeing GTA:V coming to the console. From all the 'info' that's been released about the next console, it could very well handle it perfectly. No-one is forcing you to rush out and buy the next Ninty console, even if V did get released for it first...if you hate Ninty that much then just wait for it to come to whatever console you own. If the game is ready at the same time the console gets released, then why not allow Ninty to have it first? They'd only be spiting themselves by holding it back until it's released on other consoles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UserCommenter Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 Ok, and I've been part of the PlayStation Underground community and a member of the Gamer Advisory Panel since the late 90s. The fact that you are still trying to argue after I dropped it shows where you stand. You obviously think you are right and thus won't listen to anyone else, so continuing this is pointless. If anyone wants to know who is correct, they can do the same research I did. Edit: Btw, for anyone that doesn't want to do the research, I will do it for you right here with a simple timeline of events relating to motion control: May 13, 2004 - Nintendo spoke of the "Revolution" at E3 May 17, 2005 - Sony shows a non-playable PlayStation3 (PS3) with the "boomerang" controller at E3 May 17, 2005 - Nintendo shows the Wii for the first time but doesn't show the motion controls at E3 October 14, 2005 - Wii Remote shown at Tokyo Game Show (TGS) January 5, 2006 - SIXAXIS is shown in prototype form for the first time at Consumer Electronics Show (CES) May 9, 2006 - Incognito Entertainment recieves development motion-sensing controllers from Sony May 19, 2006 - Sony annouced that the "boomerang" was "was very clearly designed as a design concept, and was never intended to be the final controller, despite what everybody said about it" at E3 May 19, 2006 - Warhawk from Incognito is the only PS3 game shown to support motion control at E3 November 11, 2006 - PS3 is launched in Japan November 17, 2006 - PS3 is launched in the USA November 19, 2006 - Wii is launched in the USA December 2, 2006 - Wii is launched in Japan Feburary 26, 2007 - Phil Harrison says rumble is "the last generation feature" and "there will be specific game function controllers, [...] that do include vibration or feedback function -- not from us but from third parties." September 19, 2007 - Sony reveils the DualShock 3 at TGS Base your own opinion on these facts that can easily be backed up. I could careless seeing how I was underground and part of GAP as well just in 2003. I was simply stating I was there when it all happened. The boomerang controller wasn't a final build and sony stated that it was still in the works, it was just one of the designs. Sony had also stated long before the reveal of the wii remote that motion sensing in their controller might be part of it if it can be worked out. Your timeline fails to really show much information about facts, just when things were revealed. Just because something was revealed after does not mean it wasn't in the works before the other. Though when the wii remote was revealed, thats when sony stepped up with ideas for their own wii like remote ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnzooger Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 I could careless seeing how I was underground and part of GAP as well just in 2003. I was simply stating I was there when it all happened. The boomerang controller wasn't a final build and sony stated that it was still in the works, it was just one of the designs. Sony had also stated long before the reveal of the wii remote that motion sensing in their controller might be part of it if it can be worked out. Your timeline fails to really show much information about facts, just when things were revealed. Just because something was revealed after does not mean it wasn't in the works before the other. Though when the wii remote was revealed, thats when sony stepped up with ideas for their own wii like remote ideas. Ok dude, you are really just trying to push my buttons now. October 2005, Nintendo finally says they have motion control as the revolutionary feature, and they show it working. Not until January 2006 does Sony even say that they are coming out with a motion controller as well. Then it wasn't until May 2006 that Sony even proves they have a working motion controller, and only ONE game supports it. I don't know, maybe you are just blinded by your loyalty to Sony or something to see what really happened. (Also, you couldn't care less. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UserCommenter Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 I could careless seeing how I was underground and part of GAP as well just in 2003. I was simply stating I was there when it all happened. The boomerang controller wasn't a final build and sony stated that it was still in the works, it was just one of the designs. Sony had also stated long before the reveal of the wii remote that motion sensing in their controller might be part of it if it can be worked out. Your timeline fails to really show much information about facts, just when things were revealed. Just because something was revealed after does not mean it wasn't in the works before the other. Though when the wii remote was revealed, thats when sony stepped up with ideas for their own wii like remote ideas. Ok dude, you are really just trying to push my buttons now. October 2005, Nintendo finally says they have motion control as the revolutionary feature, and they show it working. Not until January 2006 does Sony even say that they are coming out with a motion controller as well. Then it wasn't until May 2006 that Sony even proves they have a working motion controller, and only ONE game supports it. I don't know, maybe you are just blinded by your loyalty to Sony or something to see what really happened. (Also, you couldn't care less. ) Yah. Common sense would've shown that I mean't I could careless about when you joined. Like I said. I was just stating I was there when it was all being discussed. There were topics about sony supposedly just copying the wii. Leaks proved other wise sony had already plans for such as they did before nintendo revealed their stuff. You're so set on reveal dates when that is just something to show to the public what major/finalized plans have been going on. Pictures of the boomerang ps3 controller were out way before sony revealed to the public what ideas they had going on. >_> Keep going along with your dates and buttons though. Its quite funny how arrogant you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheHePaedo Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Question is do you want the next GTA made from tech circa 2006 or tech circa 2012. Hmmmm I know which I want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnzooger Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Yah. Common sense would've shown that I mean't I could careless about when you joined. Like I said. I was just stating I was there when it was all being discussed. There were topics about sony supposedly just copying the wii. Leaks proved other wise sony had already plans for such as they did before nintendo revealed their stuff. You're so set on reveal dates when that is just something to show to the public what major/finalized plans have been going on. Pictures of the boomerang ps3 controller were out way before sony revealed to the public what ideas they had going on. >_> Keep going along with your dates and buttons though. Its quite funny how arrogant you are. Lets see, boomerang had no motion control, so I don't know why you are going on about that at all. You have yet to provide any evidence to your side of the argument other than your "being there" which I was to... Yeah, I'm the arrogant one... You keep proving time and time again how deadset you are on Sony being the innovative ones that you are blind to the truth. I'm done with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creat3d22 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 Why are some people saying "if" Wii 2 is more powerful than 360 and PS3.......of course it will. It'll blow both away put together. If not then why bother? I have a funny feeling that GTA V will be on Wii 2 first. Just take the controller for example. The screen could be used for map, phone, weapon and other information without detracting from what's happening on screen. Maybe RS after marking RDR had bigger ideas for doing the next GTA and were looking to the next generation? With MS & Sony not putting forward anything for a couple of years, Nintendo is RS's viable option. If this happened it would be a strange world we live in wouldn't it? "If not then why bother?" Have you ever tried the first Wii? What makes you think they'd make it right this time? "I have a funny feeling that GTA V will be on Wii 2 first." I have a funny feeling there's no validity to gut-feelings, especially not for something as ridiculous as a GTA coming out on the Wii2 first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn 7 five 11 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 Why are some people saying "if" Wii 2 is more powerful than 360 and PS3.......of course it will. It'll blow both away put together. If not then why bother? I have a funny feeling that GTA V will be on Wii 2 first. Just take the controller for example. The screen could be used for map, phone, weapon and other information without detracting from what's happening on screen. Maybe RS after marking RDR had bigger ideas for doing the next GTA and were looking to the next generation? With MS & Sony not putting forward anything for a couple of years, Nintendo is RS's viable option. If this happened it would be a strange world we live in wouldn't it? "If not then why bother?" Have you ever tried the first Wii? What makes you think they'd make it right this time? "I have a funny feeling that GTA V will be on Wii 2 first." I have a funny feeling there's no validity to gut-feelings, especially not for something as ridiculous as a GTA coming out on the Wii2 first. Maybe it will be available on X360 and PS3 and Wii2. That would make sense since the specs of the wii2 seems to be similar to M$$ and sony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[email protected] Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 I hope its a PS3 exclusive then it gets ported to Xbox 360 and PC/ Wii2 later down the line. Mainly because of space requirements. On the PS3 you have at least 40gb of hdd to use (assuming you have a old ps3) all the way up too 500gb. And 25gb/50gb using the Blu Ray discs. I can see the 360 and Wii2 having major issues in the storage department, especially since the base 360 still does not have a hdd and only a 8gb (6.5gb usable currently because of 1Gb drm, this will change seen though) And the wii2 will probably only have a small ssd storage unit and most likely dvd-dl On PC you have no storage issues at all. Sure they could release GTA:V via digital distribution but i am sure many people would not like to download a 30gb+ game (assuming the game is bigger then the GTA:4 PC edition which was 12gb stock and LAN's ps3 version which had to be squeezed onto a 25gb br disc.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnzooger Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 On the PS3 you have at least 40gb of hdd to use (assuming you have a old ps3) all the way up too 500gb. Strange, my PS3 only has 18GB usable HDD space (20GB version from launch). The next Nintendo is said to have 8GB built in flash storage, use a 25GB blu-ray style disc, and have expandable memory using SD cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rent>A<Line99 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 I just wanted to put this out there: The development of the playstation move dates back to 2003. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtaftw69 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 I think that you lot are forgetting that Nintendo has been at the forefront of gaming up until the Wii at the forefront of gaming????!! the Nintendo Game Cube was utter pap!!! before that, the only reason the N64 was so popular was because everyone was nut hugging Goldeneye, which was massively over-rated!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn 7 five 11 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 I think that you lot are forgetting that Nintendo has been at the forefront of gaming up until the Wii at the forefront of gaming????!! the Nintendo Game Cube was utter pap!!! before that, the only reason the N64 was so popular was because everyone was nut hugging Goldeneye, which was massively over-rated!!! N64 was still at the forefront of gaming whether or not it was overrated. The wii has sold the most out of current-gen consoles, just because you don't like it doesn't mean the console is a heap of sh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ered Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 I hope its a PS3 exclusive then it gets ported to Xbox 360 and PC/ Wii2 later down the line. Mainly because of space requirements. On the PS3 you have at least 40gb of hdd to use (assuming you have a old ps3) all the way up too 500gb. And 25gb/50gb using the Blu Ray discs. I can see the 360 and Wii2 having major issues in the storage department, especially since the base 360 still does not have a hdd and only a 8gb (6.5gb usable currently because of 1Gb drm, this will change seen though) And the wii2 will probably only have a small ssd storage unit and most likely dvd-dl On PC you have no storage issues at all. Sure they could release GTA:V via digital distribution but i am sure many people would not like to download a 30gb+ game (assuming the game is bigger then the GTA:4 PC edition which was 12gb stock and LAN's ps3 version which had to be squeezed onto a 25gb br disc.) You actually have 2 rumors. Rumor 1: Wii 2 Will use Blu Ray with an chance of later on have 50 GB capacity. Rumor 2: Wii 2 Will use An disk that have a capacity of 25gb(what is the same as blu ray) and maybe in the future it will be increased. Its most likely that rumor 1 is true as nintendo will not make the time experimenting a disk format. And as Blu-Ray is Made By Sony and Philips no one have an license to use it. Every company can choose to use Blu-Ray or not. But nintendo don't follow other company much. As much japan companies like to copy others except Nintendo. SO we will see. Its 99% sure that wii 2 will be better then ps3 or xbox 360 . So if gta V will be released on the ps3 and xbox 360 it will most likely be released on the wii2 to just because rockstar wants to make profit. On the other side If GTA V wil not be released on the ps3 or xbox360 until the next gen console's. The wii 2 Should have beter proccesor and graphics then ps3 and xbox 360 and not slightly And the maybe it will be Timed exclusive. I think That GTA V will be Released on the wii2. But Timed Exclusive. Then nintendo should pay rockstar i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeppelincheetah Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 I don't care what platform the next GTA appears on. I don't mind if it's Nintendo. Some of my favorite M-rated games were on Nintendo systems, Conker's Bad Fur Day, Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem, Perfect Dark, GTA: Chinatown Wars, MGS: TTS, etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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