OchyGTA Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 I am aware that this will probably get locked but after reading a couple of reviews today, I have noticed that they are so biased towards mainstream games. I just want to know if anyone else has picked up on the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uNi Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Moved to Gaming. Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OchyGTA Posted May 10, 2011 Author Share Posted May 10, 2011 Moved to Gaming. Ok thanks for not locking it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthYENIK Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Wasn't it found out that they were taking bribes or just talking up the games of their sponsors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gezim Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Not really, I love IGN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 IGN has always been horribly biased, the only people that find this surprising are the kind of people who are surprised by the fact that Fox News is full of right-wing nutjobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OchyGTA Posted May 10, 2011 Author Share Posted May 10, 2011 Not really, I love IGN. I will tell you what pissed me off today. They reviewed Brink which is finally bringing something new to the FPS genre and they give it a measly 6 because there are repetitive objectives yet COD (and I do play this game) is the most repetitive thing and is actually a pretty bad game (MW2 that is). This is why the gaming industry is stagnating, because nothing new gets a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anuj Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 A former professor of mine just got hired at 60K a year by IGN to do commentary for Starcraft matches. Â Let's just read that sentence a few times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinski Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 I used to read IGN a sh*t load, but kind of went off it for no real reason. My only interaction with the company now is through their weekly UK podcast, which is pretty good and seems fairly impartial. I'm not sure what you mean by a bias towards mainstream games. If you mean in that they only cover mainstream games, well that's because they'll cover what gets them the most traffic and therefore money and is a completely understandable business move. If you mean by giving "mainstream" games higher scores than they deserve, well that's just subjective really. Â I have always been quite sceptical when dealing with the reviews of games that have had the site-wide background ads that IGN does though. Those ads obviously generate a lot of money for the site, seeing as they cover nearly every facet of the main page, and I wouldn't be surprised if the higher ups put pressure on the writers for a good review. But to be honest, that's kind of understandable too. It might just be because I'll be looking for any job I can get in a related industry soon, but I know if I faced the moral dilemma of say a game is a bit better than it actually is or lose my job I'd go for keeping the job every time. They're only games, it's not like they're censoring a revolution somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OchyGTA Posted May 10, 2011 Author Share Posted May 10, 2011 A former professor of mine just got hired at 60K a year by IGN to do commentary for Starcraft matches. Let's just read that sentence a few times. Ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AreXi Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Yeah, they kinda are a joke . Â Mainly because of the biased reviews. They're pretty good for a laugh, tho. Â Also I remember them saying that "Metro 2033 has PS1 quality graphics" when it was first released. Can't seem to find that review anymore so I ain't sure if they've edited it out or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OchyGTA Posted May 10, 2011 Author Share Posted May 10, 2011 Yeah, they kinda are a joke . Mainly because of the biased reviews. They're pretty good for a laugh, tho.  Also I remember them saying that "Metro 2033 has PS1 quality graphics" when it was first released. Can't seem to find that review anymore so I ain't sure if they've edited it out or something. To be honest, I reckon half their staff have no bloody clue what they're talking about. They put a page up about how great the audio in Brink is yet give it a 6.0 in the review. They contradict themselves so much. Also, I haven't been able to play Metro yet but my friends tell me its great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baptiste Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 A former professor of mine just got hired at 60K a year by IGN to do commentary for Starcraft matches. Let's just read that sentence a few times. Ridiculous So?  Something wrong with E-sports working out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OchyGTA Posted May 10, 2011 Author Share Posted May 10, 2011 A former professor of mine just got hired at 60K a year by IGN to do commentary for Starcraft matches. Let's just read that sentence a few times. Ridiculous So?  Something wrong with E-sports working out? What do you mean so, it just goes to show how stupid the game industry has got. To read commentary for a video game and earn thousands of dollars is stupid. Don't get me wrong, I would love to be paid for commentating on a game I love but I think its foolish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OysterBarron Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Ign lost my respect 6 years ago! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinsta312 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 (edited)  Yeah, they kinda are a joke . Mainly because of the biased reviews. They're pretty good for a laugh, tho.  Also I remember them saying that "Metro 2033 has PS1 quality graphics" when it was first released. Can't seem to find that review anymore so I ain't sure if they've edited it out or something. To be honest, I reckon half their staff have no bloody clue what they're talking about. They put a page up about how great the audio in Brink is yet give it a 6.0 in the review. They contradict themselves so much. Also, I haven't been able to play Metro yet but my friends tell me its great. It's not just IGN that's biased in the video game journalism world. Most gaming sites that are owned by major news corporations like IGN and GameSpot are bound to be biased (more or less) towards more popular and mainstream games. So it shouldn't be a surprise to everyone at this point.  BTW, If you thought IGN gave Brink a bad review, you should've seen what 1UP.com and Joystiq had to say about the game. Edited May 10, 2011 by shinsta312 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OchyGTA Posted May 10, 2011 Author Share Posted May 10, 2011 Yeah, they kinda are a joke . Mainly because of the biased reviews. They're pretty good for a laugh, tho.  Also I remember them saying that "Metro 2033 has PS1 quality graphics" when it was first released. Can't seem to find that review anymore so I ain't sure if they've edited it out or something. To be honest, I reckon half their staff have no bloody clue what they're talking about. They put a page up about how great the audio in Brink is yet give it a 6.0 in the review. They contradict themselves so much. Also, I haven't been able to play Metro yet but my friends tell me its great. It's not just IGN that's biased in the video game journalism world. Most gaming sites that are owned by major news corporations like IGN and GameSpot are bound to be biased (more or less) towards more popular and mainstream games. So it shouldn't be a surprise to everyone at this point.  BTW, If you thought IGN gave Brink a bad review, you should've seen what 1UP.com and Joystiq had to say about the game. Ouch, I do have to say that I lold at one of the comments that said Joystiq complained Left For Dead 2 was too hard. Please, if you can't play that then you probably shouldn't be reviewing games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foohy Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Not really, I love IGN. I will tell you what pissed me off today. They reviewed Brink which is finally bringing something new to the FPS genre and they give it a measly 6 because there are repetitive objectives yet COD (and I do play this game) is the most repetitive thing and is actually a pretty bad game (MW2 that is). This is why the gaming industry is stagnating, because nothing new gets a shot. IGN's not the only ones bashing the game. It's getting mediocre reviews across the board from critics and players. It shouldn't get a free pass simply for 'bring something new'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinski Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Proper gaming journalism, where the industry is actually taken as serious journalism, is still in its infancy really, if it's even there at all. Many people these days still see games as something that kids do, so it already looks less legitimate than its counterparts in music and film, so it's not much of a surprise that things like weird scoring habits and pressure on writers from sponsors and management exist and influence the finished product. Â Let the industry catch up with its counterparts and then you'll be able to properly complain about bias and reliability. Remember that most of these guys are part of the first generation of gaming journalism, they haven't exactly had too much to go on for inspiration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OchyGTA Posted May 10, 2011 Author Share Posted May 10, 2011 Not really, I love IGN. I will tell you what pissed me off today. They reviewed Brink which is finally bringing something new to the FPS genre and they give it a measly 6 because there are repetitive objectives yet COD (and I do play this game) is the most repetitive thing and is actually a pretty bad game (MW2 that is). This is why the gaming industry is stagnating, because nothing new gets a shot. IGN's not the only ones bashing the game. It's getting mediocre reviews across the board from critics and players. It shouldn't get a free pass simply for 'bring something new'. Oh no I completely agree but IGN have gone back on their word after praising the game in the past weeks and now saying "yh we sorta don't like this because its repetitive unlike COD". That is a joke, MW2 was one of the worst games I have ever played. Awful, stupid story and a complete overhaul of the good multiplayer in COD 4. I much prefer Treyarchs versions (Post COD 4) because they seem to put effort into their games. COD WAW an Black Ops both had a fantastic story. Anyway, I have gone off point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OchyGTA Posted May 10, 2011 Author Share Posted May 10, 2011 Sorry, I have just noticed the error in the title, should be Is IGN a joke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Without a Tongue Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Proper gaming journalism, where the industry is actually taken as serious journalism, is still in its infancy really, if it's even there at all. That's very true, but entertainment journalism in general has always been crap, as I can tell. A lot of movie reviews leave me scratching my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OchyGTA Posted May 10, 2011 Author Share Posted May 10, 2011 Proper gaming journalism, where the industry is actually taken as serious journalism, is still in its infancy really, if it's even there at all. That's very true, but entertainment journalism in general has always been crap, as I can tell. A lot of movie reviews leave me scratching my head. Spill movie reviews are the best, they give fair reviews with a bit of humor added in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidamelo Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 I like IGN but I admit I don't read many reviews because I don't like critics they're so full of prejudice!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diablo440 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 I find it entertaining that in 2011 people still think big mass money accumulating companies even acknowledge their criticisms, unless they have some social pull in which case they sue them for defamation and win.. Â Two considerations: A lot of people who have been around gaming for longer than you see modern FPS titles as cheap profit for major studios and little else, cause they are easy and cheap to make.. Behind every game mag you care to mention is an investment banking firm..read user reviews, not over-payed yuppie ones.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OchyGTA Posted May 10, 2011 Author Share Posted May 10, 2011 I find it entertaining that in 2011 people still think big mass money accumulating companies even acknowledge their criticisms, unless they have some social pull in which case they sue them for defamation and win.. Two considerations: A lot of people who have been around gaming for longer than you see modern FPS titles as cheap profit for major studios and little else, cause they are easy and cheap to make.. Behind every game mag you care to mention is an investment banking firm..read user reviews, not over-payed yuppie ones.. You raise to good points. To be honest, I would much rather have hundreds if not thousands of independent reviewers instead of these big corporations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nlitement Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Sorry, I have just noticed the error in the title, should be Is IGN a joke? British English grammar dictates "are" for singular nouns that represent a group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OchyGTA Posted May 10, 2011 Author Share Posted May 10, 2011 Sorry, I have just noticed the error in the title, should be Is IGN a joke? British English grammar dictates "are" for singular nouns that represent a group. So I was right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foohy Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Â Not really, I love IGN. I will tell you what pissed me off today. They reviewed Brink which is finally bringing something new to the FPS genre and they give it a measly 6 because there are repetitive objectives yet COD (and I do play this game) is the most repetitive thing and is actually a pretty bad game (MW2 that is). This is why the gaming industry is stagnating, because nothing new gets a shot. IGN's not the only ones bashing the game. It's getting mediocre reviews across the board from critics and players. It shouldn't get a free pass simply for 'bring something new'. Oh no I completely agree but IGN have gone back on their word after praising the game in the past weeks and now saying "yh we sorta don't like this because its repetitive unlike COD". That is a joke, MW2 was one of the worst games I have ever played. Awful, stupid story and a complete overhaul of the good multiplayer in COD 4. I much prefer Treyarchs versions (Post COD 4) because they seem to put effort into their games. COD WAW an Black Ops both had a fantastic story. Anyway, I have gone off point. Treyarch are the ones that seem like they don't put enough effort into their CoDs. The story in Black Ops is abysmally terrible; one of the worst stories I've ever played in a game. MW2's story was terrible too, but the fantastic set pieces made it very enjoyable. Black Ops' various locales are rather dull. As for multiplayer; Infinity Ward did it better. Guns in BO sound like BB-guns and killstreak rewards manage to somehow make even less sense than MW2 (RCXD, dogs, Valkyrie). BO is the first and last Treyarch game I'm buying. Â @OchyGTA: I guess if you're British. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OchyGTA Posted May 10, 2011 Author Share Posted May 10, 2011  Not really, I love IGN. I will tell you what pissed me off today. They reviewed Brink which is finally bringing something new to the FPS genre and they give it a measly 6 because there are repetitive objectives yet COD (and I do play this game) is the most repetitive thing and is actually a pretty bad game (MW2 that is). This is why the gaming industry is stagnating, because nothing new gets a shot. IGN's not the only ones bashing the game. It's getting mediocre reviews across the board from critics and players. It shouldn't get a free pass simply for 'bring something new'. Oh no I completely agree but IGN have gone back on their word after praising the game in the past weeks and now saying "yh we sorta don't like this because its repetitive unlike COD". That is a joke, MW2 was one of the worst games I have ever played. Awful, stupid story and a complete overhaul of the good multiplayer in COD 4. I much prefer Treyarchs versions (Post COD 4) because they seem to put effort into their games. COD WAW an Black Ops both had a fantastic story. Anyway, I have gone off point. Treyarch are the ones that seem like they don't put enough effort into their CoDs. The story in Black Ops is abysmally terrible; one of the worst stories I've ever played in a game. MW2's story was terrible too, but the fantastic set pieces made it very enjoyable. Black Ops' various locales are rather dull. As for multiplayer; Infinity Ward did it better. Guns in BO sound like BB-guns and killstreak rewards manage to somehow make even less sense than MW2 (RCXD, dogs, Valkyrie). BO is the first and last Treyarch game I'm buying.  @OchyGTA: I guess if you're British. I can't agree with you on the storyline but everyones entitled to their own opinion. But to be fair MW2 had tactical nuke. Not even Black Ops was as ridiculous  Sorry, umm didn't get the British joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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