Exxon Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Hi everyone, As first of all, I don't know if I am in the right section. I'm sorry if that's not the case, but please don't lock this topic My question here is, whenever I play GTA IV (very high settings, ENB series on) or Crysis 2, my videocard makes (a lot of) noise. Yes, that's how it's supposed to be. But the noise I hear from my videocard isn't how you would think it is. It's making a noise like everyone hears from his computer, but if it reaches 80 degrees C, the noise is very different. I made I tiny video of it, but before you listen: set the volume of your speakers about as high as possible, because it's recorded with my mobile phone, so it's a weak sound. Here's the link to the video, click here. Is that normal? I mean, it's a very weird sound and I don't know anyone who has the same video card. But whenever I open up the computer's side, the noise is gone. You only hear the 'normal' noise Please reply to me! Exxon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkey82 Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Well, that sounds sounds to me like there is some strange resonance going on. You should make sure that your side panel is mounted tight when you put it back on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girish Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Can't check out the video because my speakers are dead and headphones are refusing to work. Anyways, when my PC was making a weird noise some time back, I found out that a few wires were clashing with the fans on my case. Make sure there is no such interference. If necessary, tie all the cables together and stash them into an open corner inside your case so they don't brush against anything that moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exxon Posted May 8, 2011 Author Share Posted May 8, 2011 (edited) You should make sure that your side panel is mounted tight when you put it back on. When I recorded this, the side panel was on. It always makes the same noise, EVEN when the side panel is off . . . Maybe I should check the thing girishb said. Should I post a picture of how the inside of the computer looks? It's a bit of a mess in there as my computer case was actually too smal, so we unplugged the USB at the front (somehow still works) from the motherboard and the extra external harddrive at the top (the cabels from both components). Edited May 8, 2011 by Exxon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkey82 Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 But whenever I open up the computer's side, the noise is gone. You only hear the 'normal' noise It always makes the same noise, EVEN when the side panel is off . . . Which one is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exxon Posted May 8, 2011 Author Share Posted May 8, 2011 Oh, sorry for the inconvenience! It doesn't make the noise by then, because then the videocard doesn't reach such degrees C. Only ~72 C. Here are a few pictures, now you know why it's hotter than most video cards. And what about the cabels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girish Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 That looks pretty cramped. Could be that the hot air thrown out by the card's heat sink is hitting the cables you've tucked behind the card causing them to vibrate against the case. I'm not entirely sure, but you can try removing those cables from behind the card and put them some place else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exxon Posted May 8, 2011 Author Share Posted May 8, 2011 Yes, I'll try that. But why do I only hear that when the fans are at a specific speed? Wait, I gues I already know the answer But, do you mean the cabels at the side/above it, or beneath it (the videocard)? Or both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkey82 Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Those cables BELOW shouldn't be there. Get some of these and sort it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exxon Posted May 8, 2011 Author Share Posted May 8, 2011 I opened up CCC, enabled AMD Overdrive and check 'Enable manual fan control'. When I hit the 80% of the fans, the sound came. I removed the side panel ... and it was gone. BUT, I (softly) touched the cables, and the sound was back So, I 'played' a little with the cables, sometimes the sound disappeared and then it came back. If it touches the heatsink fan, it comes back. If I hold the cables from the videocard (extra power cables, those 3 pin things) in a specific stand, it also disappeared. So it's deffinitly something with the cables. Should I try tieing them up with something and see what happens? EDIT: @mkey82, those cables have always been there. Also when the old GT 220 was in. It comes from the mobo beneath that. I can't remove them, and by the way, they are already tied together with something. Should I tie them up more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girish Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 If you can't get those cables out of the way from behind the card, tape them firmly to the case. If everything fails, get a bigger case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exxon Posted May 8, 2011 Author Share Posted May 8, 2011 Gues I will be taping them Getting a bigger case ... hmms But then everything has to be exported to the other one and I'm not that handy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkey82 Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 You should get a bigger case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exxon Posted May 8, 2011 Author Share Posted May 8, 2011 @mkey82 I know, but I actually don't have the money for it, and I already want to buy a new processor But it'll do for now, so I will keep this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exxon Posted May 8, 2011 Author Share Posted May 8, 2011 (edited) Sorry for asking, but which case would you guys advice? I want one which ventilates good but also has a nice design AND isn't expensive? Something that looks like this And, can I go to a store and make them export everything to the new case? Edited May 8, 2011 by Exxon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkey82 Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 That case seems decent. It depends on the store if they are willing to set everything up for you, they will probably want to charge you something. If you combine this with the CPU upgrade, you may get the service for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exxon Posted May 9, 2011 Author Share Posted May 9, 2011 That Antec 900 is a bit too big, and also expensive (€110) for me. I need advice of another one, although I think this 900 is bloody gorgeous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverTheBelow Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 It sounds like the card fan is moving at a high RPM, causing either the bearing to move around (in which case bad fan bearing) or making cables touching the card reverberate against the case. You could leave Crysis 2 running on a demanding scene while looking inside your case so that the fan noise occurs, then move certain cables around, check whether part of the case is vibrating or perhaps stop the GPU fan for a couple of seconds to verify that it is the source of the noise. For all we know it could be your harddrive vibrating loud. Really need to do some cable management on that thing though tbh, would help your temperatures a bit and make life easier when doing stuff in the future. You could also download MSI Afterburner and set the fan speed to 100%, 90%, 80% etc manually without running any games; this would make it safer when stopping the fan temporarily as the card will not overheat anywhere near as quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exxon Posted May 10, 2011 Author Share Posted May 10, 2011 (edited) For all we know it could be your harddrive vibrating loud. My harddrive, which is in top right corner? How could that be? But that isn't the problem, everytime I set my fan speed at about 80% the noise comes, so it is deffinitely something with the fan. By the way, my harddrive also makes sound. But a very different sound, so that's not it. EDIT I made a picture to show the airflow of my pc, I'm not sure if it's drawn like it should be. The red arrows are airflow. It's (fresh) air. The white drawings are the vents in my computer case when the side panel is on. The arrow with the blue dot in it is what I could open. It's one of those slots which my graphics card uses 2. Maybe if I open up that one, would that cool better? Edited May 10, 2011 by Exxon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkey82 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Like I said, it's about a resonance. Sometimes, I had to deal with cases that would just start vibrating like sh*t. So, I take the case and deform it a bit (obviously, we're talking about sh*tty PCs here), take the side panel out and bend it a bit - that usually would be enough as resonance will depend on the case geometry. In your case, the right conditions are met when the fan hits some frequency, the materials show less resistance and you have vibrations moving through the entire structure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exxon Posted May 10, 2011 Author Share Posted May 10, 2011 What about my picture above your comment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkey82 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 The fluid dynamics is a complicated matter and I can't say I understand it that well. What you want to achieve is a wind tunnel effect, where the case has the air sucked out on one end and suck in on the other. If you open holes on various sides that usually does nothing to help you. Besides, the problem you have relates to vibration, not air flow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exxon Posted May 10, 2011 Author Share Posted May 10, 2011 Yeah, you're right. BUT, I found out! The noise is gone! The red circle is what was causing the problem, the black arrow is what also makes the noise disappear (pressing that point). BTW, how can it be that 85% fan is the same at noise and RPM as 100% ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkey82 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Probably if you measured the noise levels it wouldn't be exactly the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exxon Posted May 10, 2011 Author Share Posted May 10, 2011 MSI Afterburner says that 85% fan has a tachometer RPM of ~4400, but 100% also says about 4400?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exxon Posted May 15, 2011 Author Share Posted May 15, 2011 But what about the comment above this one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoječ Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 (edited) Sorry if it was mentioned before (I did not read the topic), but did you enable vertical synchronization (vsync)? If not, please do so. It solved the weird sound problem on my GTX470. //edit: okay, I see the problem was solved... nevermind then But anyway, why did you use 2x Molex -> 6-pin PCIex adapter to power the card? The XFX already has two 6-pin connectors, so there is absolutely no need to use adapters. Edited May 15, 2011 by yojo2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exxon Posted May 15, 2011 Author Share Posted May 15, 2011 Sorry if it was mentioned before (I did not read the topic), but did you enable vertical synchronization (vsync)? If not, please do so. It solved the weird sound problem on my GTX470. The sound comes from my video card, hope you read that //edit: okay, I see the problem was solved... nevermind then But anyway, why did you use 2x Molex -> 6-pin PCIex adapter to power the card? The XFX already has two 6-pin connectors, so there is absolutely no need to use adapters. I have the MSI Twin Frozr II edition. When I did not use the two 6-pin connectors, the motherboard would sound a couple beeps which indicates there's something wrong. When I did use them, there was no problem. So I'll leave them in. By the way, could it hurt? But it's still not answered: MSI Afterburner says that 85% fan has a tachometer RPM of ~4400, but 100% also says about 4400? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoječ Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 The sound comes from my video card, hope you read that And that's exactly what I meant - without vsync many cards make weird noises. This is related to too high FPS in menus and such.When I did not use the two 6-pin connectors, the motherboard would sound a couple beeps which indicates there's something wrong.When I did use them, there was no problem. So I'll leave them in. By the way, could it hurt? What I meant is that you should use 6pin connectors directly from the PSU, not from the adapters. This is safer because adapters might get loose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exxon Posted May 17, 2011 Author Share Posted May 17, 2011 (edited) I thought, let's not start anóther topic Is this a good system? GPU: MSI R6950 Twin Frozr III Power Edition/OC CPU: Intel® Core™2 Quad Q9505, 4 x 2833 MH, 2x 3072 KB Level 2 Cache, 1333 MHz MOBO: ASUS P5P41T USB3 CASE: Sharkoon Scoprio 1000 DVD: LG GH 22NP21 PSU: XFX PRO 550W Core Edition OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit RAM: Kingston HyperX 8 GB DDR3-1333 Kit HDD: Samsung HD502HJ Extra Cooler: Cooler Master MegaFlow 200 Blue LED Silent Fan Is ~ €934,- I couldn't find Core i5 or i7 Also, what should I ask for this system? It has an upgraded PSU, XFX PRO 550W Core Edition, and GPU, MSI R6950 Twin Frozr II. Also, the cables from the mobo to the usb and external harddrive are out, but USB still works. And ohyeah, it's a bit damaged at the front. The plastic front is off, but the on/off button still works like it should. Edited May 17, 2011 by Exxon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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