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Cut-out stuff


Arsen Vitiuk
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Arsen Vitiuk

While looking through the game's files I found some stuff that did not appear in the final version of the game.

 

1. Personal Messages

  • You drive a mean race. Drop by the payphone again and 'El Burro' may have some work for you. - after Turismo
  • A friend said you could fix some problems I got. Get to the payphone in Trenton if you think you can help. - after Drive Misty For Me
  • Donald Love wishes you to drop by his tea garden so you and he can talk. - after Evidence Dash
  • My name's Darkel. I'm looking for a man like you. Come to the abandoned railway tunnel and we'll talk about things. - after The Exchange
2. Some removed mission lines

 

Give Me Liberty

 

8Ball: I know a guy, he's connected, his name's Luigi. Me an' him go back so I could probably get you some work. C'mon, lets drop by and I'll introduce you.

 

Luigi's Girls

 

8Ball: Wait here man while I go in and talk to Luigi.

Mickey: The boss will be out to see you shortly...

Luigi: 8-Ball's got some business upstairs.

 

Taking Out The Laundry

 

Toni: The Triads think they can mess with me? Let's teach these would be tough guys what it means to be a tough guy.

Ma: Yeah, teach 'em some respect. No son of mine gets it from some Triads. Your father, god rest his soul, took no crap from no Triads back in Sicily.

Toni: Sorry Ma. Yes Ma.

 

Salvatore's Called a Meeting

 

Mission Brief: Drive the goodfellas to Salvatore's place.

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Ma Cipriani: I don't know where he is! I swear that boy of mine don't know himself sometimes. Now his father, he was different. Always on top, in charge, manful...

Letter from Toni: Don Salvaotre has called a meeting...

 

Kanbu Bust-Out

 

Kanbu (after arrival at dojo): We thank you for your selfless actions. If you ever need help the dojo will be honoured to provide two men who will stand at your side.

 

Shima

 

Shopkeeper: You guys are useless. This ain't what I pay you goons for. If I wanted this kind of protection I'd have used the god damn police service!

Mission Brief: The shopkeeper's breathed his last!

 

Bling-Bling Scramble

 

Race Result:

  • You were last! You wasted my time FOOL!
  • Joint last! You talk like a driver, but you drive like a talker!
  • 3rd with # successful checkpoints. I thought you said you were good!
  • 2nd with # successful checkpoints. Close, but you just ain't the best!
  • Joint 2nd with # successful checkpoints. You drive like a crazed monkey!
  • Joint 1st with # successful checkpoints. Good, but you gotta be the best to drive for Queen Lizzy!
Plaster Blaster

 

Ray: If he squeals, I squeal.... so go do the job you were paid for!

 

Ransom

 

Catalina: I've got your precious Maria. If you don't want her face to look like she fell out with the butcher, bring $500,000 to the Villa at Cedar Grove. Catalina XXX.

Mission Brief: Get to Catalina and rescue Maria before the time runs out!

 

The Exchange

 

Catalina: Come on, you dumb bitch! Why did you come? The real question is did you turn up to rescue Maria or to get me back?

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Maria: I was so scared, but then I thought to myself, you're a big girl now. (had to say after Calude rescues her)

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Maria: Oh we're going to have such fun, cause, you know, my sister said she wanted to come to stay with her two kids, because her husband's playing around again and..

 

Ambulance

 

Mission Brief: The ambulance radio is out of range, get closer to a hospital! (had to happen when the player drove too far away from a hospital)

 

Vigilante

 

Mission Brief: The police radio is out of range, get closer to a police station! (had to happen when the player drove too far away from a police station)

 

Firefighter

 

Mission Brief: The firetruck radio is out of range, get closer to a fire station! (had to happen when the player drove too far away from a fire station)

 

 

3. Removed STATS lines

  • Hookers wasted
  • Deadbeats wasted
  • Airtrains gunned down

4. Removed Area names

  • The Tower
  • The Sewer
  • Swanksville
  • Luigi's Place
  • Little Italy
  • Industrial Park
  • Projects
  • Westport
  • Westport Bridge
  • Waterfront Promenade
  • Porter Tunnel

5. Removed features

 

HEALING AT HOSPITALS:

  • Get outta here! You're perfectly healthy.
  • Healthcare costs.
  • I'll just fix you up.
  • That will be $250.
HIRING PEOPLE INTO THE GROUP:

 

We thank you for your selfless actions. If you ever need help the dojo will be honoured to provide two men who will stand at your side.

 

 

6. Removed mission acceptances

 

Luigi's missions: Luigi's interviewing some new girls - Come back later!

Joey's missions: Joey's out on the town with Misty -Drop by later!

Toni's missions: Toni's taken his Momma to the opera -Call in some other time!

Asuka's missions: Maria and Kemuri are all tied up at the moment - Drop by later!

Kenji's missions: Kenji is attending a Yakuza meeting - Call by some other time!; Kenji is busy! - Call by later!

Ray's missions: Ray has other toilets to hang around - Try again later!

Donald's missions: Donald Love has other business to attend to - Make an appointment later!

D-Ice's missions: The Hoods are unavailable at the moment

 

 

7. Removed Characters

  • Darkel
  • Curtly
  • Tom Novy
  • Little T
  • Nick Love

8. Beta Characters names

  • Kemuri, Atsuke = Asuka
  • Frank = Salvatore Leone

9. Subway Stations names

  • Portland Station
  • Staunton South Station
  • Shoreside Terminal
  • Rockford Station

10. Portland L-train Stations names

  • Kurowski Station
  • Rothwell Station
  • Baillie Station

11. Multiplayer

  • Deathmatch
  • Deathmatch Stealth
  • Team Deathmatch
  • Team Deathmatch Stealth
  • Stash The Cash
  • Capture The Flag
  • Rat Race
  • Domination
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7. Removed Characters

 

Darkel

 

Curtly

 

Tom Novy

 

Little T

 

Nick Love

 

 

Didn't hear about them except Darkel and Novy... Does anybody know who are them?

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Hmmm nice bike

Interesting stuff icon14.gif It's possible that "Nick Love" is related to Donald Love somehow. And I think Tom Novy was going to be the original Head Radio DJ who would make an in-game appearance at some point. And in real life, I believe Tom Novy is an artist who had a song of his in a German pre-release trailer for III. Not sure what role he would have in the game besides being a radio DJ.

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And actually Westport goes to Portland - check Westport dev ad.

BTW airtrains should be in stats (german trailer).

 

The exchange is pretty old biggrin.gif

 

Everything except point 3 is well-known wink.gif

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Also the Toni quote is in the final game as well as the 8Ball one.

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While this is pretty much well-known by now, I just felt like sharing the Germain trailer that shows a couple of beta things (including two things mentioned in this topic).

 

This trailer mentions Tom Novy at the start (the song playing is by him, and it may have been a part of the game's soundtrack. Why all Tom Novy-related things were removed is unknown), and it also shows an airplane being destroyed by a rocket launcher at the end (which would have counted towards the "Airtrains gunned down" stat).

 

And I'm pretty sure that Ray Machowski's "If he squeals, I squeal!" line was in the final game, as well.

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There's something that doesn't add up with Darkel. It says that he contacts you after The Exchange, which makes sense when you consider the fact that his last mission involves you flying the Dodo into the Love Media building. But at this point Donald Love had already disappeared. So what does this mean, exactly, that Nick Love took over the business? Or do you think Nick Love has nothing to do with Donald?

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Also the Toni quote is in the final game as well as the 8Ball one.

Yes, they are... Partly. I just put some remaining lines to just show where those cut-out lines had to go.

 

The same goes for Ray Machowski.

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There's something that doesn't add up with Darkel. It says that he contacts you after The Exchange, which makes sense when you consider the fact that his last mission involves you flying the Dodo into the Love Media building. But at this point Donald Love had already disappeared. So what does this mean, exactly, that Nick Love took over the business? Or do you think Nick Love has nothing to do with Donald?

I think that when Darkel was there, Love hasn't disappeared. I think after they removed those missions where Donald is killed, tthey made him mysteriously disappear.

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Where did you find those lines anyway? I searched the text from the PC and the PS2 version, and found nothing on Darkel except his name in the credits.

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These are the encrypted lines from .txd files and .dff files.

 

I tried to read them with the Notepad, and whe I opened them, there was a total mess. Amongst this mess I found these PM lines. Might find some more later, just so don't have much time now.

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Yes, quite a few of the lines are already in the final game, but some of them have 1 or 2 different words or an extra line.

 

Some good finds though, no doubt

 

 

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Actually - GTA 3 beta had the station names from LCS wink.gif

http://www.grandtheftwiki.com/Portland_El

I don't see why that has any relevance. It's already well known and has barely any bearing to this topic. I'd also have to disagree with you on this hidden text being old. wink.gif

 

This smilie makes me informative. wink.gifwink.gifwink.gifwink.gifwink.gifwink.gifwink.gif

 

But seriously, which .dff/.txd files did you look into to find these? By the way, Salvatore's full beta name is 'Frankie Sorvino'. It was mentioned on an old concept art.

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-.- He showed us the text so I gave more hints about station names wink.gif

 

Hidden text is old and was really discovered a long time ago by me and other player I think wink.gif

 

Just download GTA 3 menu editor - there is no mess in the text and just open american.gxt - good luck.

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That was MISC.txd and peds.dff (the last one included Darkel's PM) Others (like 99.5%) were found in english.gxt (it differs from american.gxt).

 

I found Darkel's Pm like this:

 

$Res msg$ #xxtext writt&*070= "Load font sentspeed=chardef#(1^5) lick the dic @show Sumo #color1=chardef#(RGBdef) #colorscreen=chardef#(RGBdef) #colorfont=chardef#(RGBdef)~read: "My name's [email protected]=Darkel load model ped [email protected] ~dub name="darkel" ~write "Darkel". I'm looking for a man like you. @place pedmodel=darkhob into coord="a;b;c" willset on ~codesearch=down Action=#random=("Stand";"Scratch";"ooh";"Warm";"Eat") Come to the @location=XYZcord @refer to location="a;b;c" ~search="abandoned railway tunnel" findenter: key=("Portland"|"Baillie Station"|"Little Italy") place icon="darkmis" init trigger timer set = #21:00 timer bar = # 05:00 ~05:00="seal mission" ~!markertextval=true! ~21:00="unseal mission" ~!markertextval=false! and we'll talk about things. @hideSumo $END MSG$

 

Found it accidentally though. May search more and find even more Darkel-refered thingies.

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Funny, but american gxt contains same texts that you've uploaded in the first thing.

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Sunrise Driver

Subway station names are actually present in GTA 3 as I recall.

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@Filip454: english.gxt does differ a bit from american.gxt. Especilly if you're version 1.1 - you'd see there's a great difference in King Courtney's text from what he actually says.

 

@Street Mix: No, the subway stations names are absent in GTA:III. The names appear only in GTA LCS

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@Filip454: english.gxt does differ a bit from american.gxt. Especilly if you're version 1.1 - you'd see there's a great difference in King Courtney's text from what he actually says.

 

So, 1.0 rlz? Can you provide me the exe and all changed files?

 

My original (not trilogy disk) is broken.

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Not certain... This will be warez dicussion. Really.

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fireguy109

Hold everything, guys. Flipping through american.gxt and I found... THIS!!!!!!

 

user posted image

 

Cool, huh? Shows they were prepared to implement multiplayer even if they never got around to it.

 

EDIT: HOLY ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

user posted image

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It's been known probably since the first GXT editor came out.

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-nvm-

 

Was a flame post anyways. I'm trying to keep cool nowadays, so post blanked. And if this was already known, it wasn't posted here yet. And perhaps other people are curious about it. bored.gif

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Nice work, fireguy! I'll add it to the first post a bit later, OK? THis is an important part of the cut-out stuff!

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Deathmatch stealth? How does that work?

Better yet, how does team stealth deathmatch work lol.

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