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Would you make it so the wanted down cheat gets rid of heat and raids and stuff? If so, I'd be cool. And you'll also have to consider how this'll work in multiplayer free roam.

you already planning on using cheats? thats kinda sad.

Yeah, I'm going to use cheats. Are you going to try and stop me? Because I'd like to see that.

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Just use bribes like the GTA gaming days of GTA III, in SR you have car washes serve as Drive Thrus to pay for wanted level elimination, paying off the cops, and of course, a more realistic approach in Red Dead Red, I think they'll try and make it feel less like your typical game, adding some realism that people won't mind, let's hope

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When playing GTA IV, I would steal cars with no one around etc for fake realism. But implementing that wanted system would be awesome. But how would you make the cars your own?

 

I think that in relation to stealing cars at night for no or less heat, you should have options when breaking into cars.

 

Eg,(1) have the option of kicking in the window, could cause witnesses to look (noise). or be distraction?

(2)Maybe lock picking like mafia 2?

or (3)the option to buy a slim jim to get into a car fast with less or none detection.

(I saw somewhere on this forum about leveling up Hotwiring at start of game) - I would just go hotwire many cars at night time to level up so I can hotwire in two seconds to get out of sticky situations etc.

 

But yes, making the car your own & customisation like mafia 2 and SA.

 

When you go to pay and spray you change colour, but still got old plates cops can get you on when attraction attenion etc.

At pay n spray or CHOP SHOP (were you can sell car) or customise to keep. (rims, modz)

 

At chop shop, their should be the ability to change plates with car color (cloning another car in city) to avoid detection? making car legal if u want to keep it?

 

Or even have a working car website (like in gta iv) or dealership to buy your own legal ride.

 

Maybe at the begining of the game you get someones crappy ride and can do it up?

 

This is all for like legalising your car to avoid heat or wanted level.

 

Just an idea.

Sorry for any Incorrect spelling.

 

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I think that you should have options when breaking into cars. You should have the option of kicking in the window...lock picking... or buying a slim jim.

 

When you go to pay and spray you change color, but still got old plates cops can get you on when attraction attenion etc.

At pay n spray or CHOP SHOP (were you can sell car) or customise to keep. (rims, modz)

 

At chop shop, their should be the ability to change plates with car color (cloning another car in city) to avoid detection? making car legal if u want to keep it?

Those ideas are good but it may be too complicated. It should feel natural. Also, having the choice to ‘change your car plates’ or ‘change the color’ would only work if it cost LESS to change the color and MORE to change plates. Changing the color would only deter the police temporarily. But money needs to actually matter in the game. (I could go on a rant right now about money but I will save that for another time.)

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I think that you should have options when breaking into cars. You should have the option of kicking in the window...lock picking... or buying a slim jim.

 

When you go to pay and spray you change color, but still got old plates cops can get you on when attraction attenion etc.

At pay n spray or CHOP SHOP (were you can sell car) or customise to keep. (rims, modz)

 

At chop shop, their should be the ability to change plates with car color (cloning another car in city) to avoid detection? making car legal if u want to keep it?

Those ideas are good but it may be too complicated. It should feel natural. Also, having the choice to ‘change your car plates’ or ‘change the color’ would only work if it cost LESS to change the color and MORE to change plates. Changing the color would only deter the police temporarily. But money needs to actually matter in the game. (I could go on a rant right now about money but I will save that for another time.)

I totally agree though.

 

If you want to make the cars yours, painting is only temp, thats what I was trying to say. Though plates would make the car "Not on the Hot List" so you could keep it but cost consiberly more. (I mean, if u wanna keep the car, you have to value it.)

 

The chop shop Idea came from SA, GTAIV when you steal the cars for brucie, you should unlock pimpin your ride.

 

Some cars in the games I like, but wish I could make them faster tougher or look cooler... (like s.r, but not too much over the top, gottah keep realism).

 

I would only want it implmented if it did feel natural for the game.

 

I love GTA IV with the realism, I just missed the char and car custom abillities.

 

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I will say that picking locks should be in the game, but you have to buy them at an underground shop.

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I haven't read through all of the topic, but can I say, what a fantastic, fantastic set of ideas you have Grope - Rockstar should really take note icon14.gif .

 

The idea of your car attracting heat as well the Cops canvassing an area as opposed to canvassing for you is much more realistic, immersive, and dare I say it fun. It gives the player more freedom to not be blown to sh*t by the cops for anything like in IV.

 

I think the RDR system will be modified and used in V. Imagine if you had player "heat", similar to honour/bounty system in RDR. Imagine you were a mass murdering cop killer in game, your "heat" would increase dramatically. Imagine you'd committed a number of these crimes in gang areas.

Either:

 

A gang will have you whacked as you are too risky to work with or to even operate in their territory

 

or

 

Rogue police put a price on you in the underworld.

 

Naturally, a car full of assassins attacking you for either would just a random, irregular event, but it would really add an exciting experience to the game outside of missions.

 

Of course, neither should affect the story.

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Add some snipers on 4 star level. Just like in kane & lynch u will see a cross hair when sniper spotted u, the only thing u will do to get out on of the cross hair or duck. It's adds some realism to the game.

 

here's a vids on adjust it on 2:22

 

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Add some snipers on 4 star level. Just like in kane & lynch u will see a cross hair when sniper spotted u, the only thing u will do to get out on of the cross hair or duck. It's adds some realism to the game.

there were cop snipers in IV, except that they only set up in certain places if i recall correctly.

 

would be strange and unfair for cops to set up sniping positions everywhere anyways; at roadblocks or on polmavericks yes, but not wherever you go.

 

 

 

on-topic:

the vision cone style from MGS is good. always hated having police pass by my position and then suddenly getting spotted by them when they aren't even looking my way (especially if you're in a car). at least if they spot you while they're running past, it won't seem so gimmicky anymore that's for sure.

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grope_4_that_date

 

Add some snipers on 4 star level. Just like in kane & lynch u will see a cross hair when sniper spotted u, the only thing u will do to get out on of the cross hair or duck. It's adds some realism to the game.

there were cop snipers in IV, except that they only set up in certain places if i recall correctly.

 

would be strange and unfair for cops to set up sniping positions everywhere anyways; at roadblocks or on polmavericks yes, but not wherever you go.

 

 

 

on-topic:

the vision cone style from MGS is good. always hated having police pass by my position and then suddenly getting spotted by them when they aren't even looking my way (especially if you're in a car). at least if they spot you while they're running past, it won't seem so gimmicky anymore that's for sure.

It needs to mirror games like Manhunt and Metal Gear Solid. It would revolutionize the game.

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Running from the police. Cops chase you.

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I do like your ideas as i like games to be more realistic but i think some of your ideas are harsh and would infact take away the fun from the game, the game is so popular because of the fun of going mental and killing everyone it needs to stay relatively easy to do this but also be realistic and evolve although im sure rockstar with your ideas could implement them in a way that adds real gameplay.

 

I think theres alot of things from other games that will work well in GTA:V but im sure that Rockstar will have all these new features and mechanics lined up to put into this game anyways.

 

The whole raid on your safe house idea i disliked, that will deffinately get rid of the fun of the game as then you will never be safe to just go mad and kill everyone, although to combat this maybe they could have malls and other packed places allover the game which you can go into and loose cops more or less instantly and escape out of fire exits etc. If this was the case then your idea of house raids could work but only when police see you go into the house they could call back up and raid it.

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@Grope-I think it would be sweet if cops actually chased you instead of shooting at you. But this scene like many other in the trailer seem very scripted. I dont want to be a nay sayer but alot of the trailer seems like they are cutscenes and cant be over analised. Just my opinion

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A lot left unknown, from this trailer, but we could stand to read some magazine articles about it, NOTE TO ROCKSTAR!! hahaha

I am serious in wanting an improvement for this part of the game

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Maybe put it in a concept thread or something.

Sorry if it wasn't clear. These are just my ideas on how the police System should change. I would really like other peoples opinion on what Rockstar needs to change / keep.

one of the things i would love for them to go more in depth on is stealth. i foud it quite unrealistic and annoying when i shot a ped in the middle of no where with a silencer and i still somehow got a wanted level. i want to be able to be a covert black ops guy. a bunch of cops come to arrest me and backup arrives to find them all dead and me long gone. epic.

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Wait, are these all just ideas? Or is there something that we are sure of that it will be IN the game?

Just a wishlist

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I wonder if Rockstar are patrolling these wishlists and stumbled on this... 2 of our ideas seem to be in the trailer. These are:

 

1. Now, cops don't crash into EVERYTHING in a chase like in IV. They seem to know HOW TO DRIVE.

 

2. It seems cops generally don't shoot you while chasing you. That's a good sign of an improved system.

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TBH the only thing needed is smarter A.I. for NPC's / cops

 

I would hide in alleys and bushes in IV yet the cops would still find me suicidal.gif

 

 

But i mean also they should fix the "I kill a ped in an alley, no one is around and I get a wanted level" sly.gif

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this is the best thing EVER. i love your idea for the wanted level system. icon14.gif i really really hope that rockstar can see some of the things on these forums and read through this because it is absolutely class. it takes a sh*t all over their wanted level system. smile.gif

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I'd address the lions share of your 'ideas' except for the fact that I had to stop reading because the few I did read, have already been addressed by R* themselves.

 

The new star system DID indicate whether or not cops were CHASING you or LOOKING for you. Couldn't read it or figure that out? Not my problem.

 

Cops DID fire on you when fired upon for 1 and 2 star ratings, as a matter of fact I'm pretty sure that firing on a cop with a 1 star AUTOMATICALLY gave you another star. Hitting a cop with a bullet was an automatic 3 star.

 

Pretty sure they blew your tires out almost immediately if given reason too.

 

And if you didn't feel like the cops were ever really after you, or that you didn't have anything to lose well...again thats on YOU not R*. Did you ever get a 4+ star wanted level outside of the story missions? Did you ever try evading a 4+ star wanted level on foot, outside of 3 Leaf Clover? For that matter did you even play the game at all?

 

 

Edit- I have no problems with people coming up with fresh new ideas for the police system. It's annoying though, when people ask for sh*t thats in the game that came out 3 years ago.

he does propose a lot of new ideas. like being pulled over for suspicios activity or a traffic violation. in gta 4 when the cops are "looking for you" and you hide they mysteriously will pull up in your area and get out of their cars and somehow wander into your exact location. call it being thorough but why didnt they do that down on the other block as well. plus why are you not able to simply carjack someone or hotwire a car to change your profile so you can make a quick escape.i mean how cool would it be to take another car when out of sight drive around the block and see four cars surrounding your old vehicle. and if you have a two star rating the cops will shoot to kill, not blow out your tires, less done by accident.(as you know they are for the most part, horrible marksmen). also he did make a good point on being in a deserted area, if you shoot a cop or anyone and they die with no witnesses or calls on the radio for backup why wouldnt you get away with it for the time being at least. but not in gta 4, you shoot a cop in the head, no witnesses around and boom, three stars and they all have the description of your vehicle and you? bullsh*t. dont take a sh*t on someones thread like that especially if you only read a few things.

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Anyone else think that there should be undercover cops? The might drive a plain colored Vapid Cruiser or Landstalker without markings or a light bar. Or plain clothed officers occasionally. I also think that a really cool thing would be a random sting operation. Maybe you try to sell drugs and it happens to be a undercover cop. Or maybe a cop as a prostitute and if she gets into your car cops come out of nowhere and swarm you. I think it adds to the bait car idea. Yes / No?

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it'd be awesome if you could pull over or stop for the cops, cooperate for a while, and then have a feature that makes you press the right buttons quickly to kill the cop before he gets a chance to put the cuffs on you. like a quick time event, kinda.

 

in GTA 4 it was kinda lame because if you "surrendered" and tried to run off while being arrested, the cop would always get the first shot off no matter what. in the new GTA you should be able to grab the cop's gun or pull out your own at the last minute and kill him quickly if you successfully press the right buttons.

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how about we should get 6 stars for getting in a los santos porn site similar to littlelacysurprisepageant.com if you go to that los santos porn site ingame you will get a LSPD warning and it will wont show porn

 

 

 

 

what it should say?

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