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MyDog

Is Vercetti Gang really a gang?

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MyDog

Both Wikis say that it's a crime syndicate, but I now think that it's just a group of guards employed to patrol Tommy's businesses. First, when Tommy buys Kaufman Cabs company, he says that he's no part of any gang. Then, the gang does not appear in cutscenes and they don't help Tommy fight Sonny's men in the final mission. I think that "chicken sh*t organization" Sonny mentions is Tommy's empire, not his men, and that the real organization is just composed of Tommy, Ken, Lance and possibly Mike.

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_Rob_

Well the fact that they hang about outside all of Tommy's businesses and other buildings, fight off other gangs, can be recruited and always help Tommy out in a shootout would be a gang in my eyes.

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Arsen Vitiuk

And they DO help you fight against the Forellis but it happens only after you killed Lance.

Although The Vercetti Gang was a name given to the gang by Dolores, they really are more like hired muscle than a gang to me.

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MyDog
And they DO help you fight against the Forellis but it happens only after you killed Lance.

Although The Vercetti Gang was a name given to the gang by Dolores, they really are more like hired muscle than a gang to me.

Really? I didn't notice them.

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Cash High

Not really a gang. The actual Vercetti 'crime syndicate' really only comprises of Tommy, Ken, & Lance (before he turns on you.) I think the goons you find outside are just bodyguards/hired muscle. You can see how incompetent they can be in some missions, so they're basically just hired. The reason the 'bodyguards' probably engage in shootouts with the gangs is because even though Tommy is on good terms with the Cubans, the bodyguards see all the gangs as a threat to Tommy's businesses.

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Sanjeem

Technically a Gang composes of three men or more. The leaders are at least three, and they employ many criminal associates as guards and enforcers. So yes it is a Gang, ever heard of the Kray twins? They were a two man operation and a few more and considered some Britains most notoriouse Gangsters.

 

The Vercetti gang is not a Mafia family because not all the members are Italian. So it's just a "Gang".

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Raptomex

They act as a gang in the ped files but if we want to be realistic I got to go with hired muscle.

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Sam998

Well you never pay them...probably just an oversight though

 

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MyDog
Well you never pay them...probably just an oversight though

You pay them to follow you after the 100% completion.

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Carbonox

I do think they are just guards sent to protect Tommy's business. They don't seem to care enough about their leader in the final mission however (I mean, where the heck are they?).

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GTA_ULTIMATE_FREAK

They are group of maniacs acting like a syndicate group, sometimes like a gang and sometimes they are nothing just hired muscles.. i enjoy every perspective of their life..

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UbK_families

it wasnt really a gang they were more like a cartel just smaller but made alot of f*cking money in the 80's

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BadaBing15

Definitely not a gang, those guys that spawn in your businesses are more of hired security, but it's structure is close to a mafia family

 

Tommy Vercetti- Don

Ken Rosenberg- Consiligieri

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Secro

If we compare them to the other gangs of Vice City, San Andreas and Liberty City, they act the same as a Mafia Family or a street gang.

 

Diaz had what we can call bodyguards protecting him before we killed him with Vance. We can also compare Diaz Gang to the Mendez (Brothers') Cartel in Vice City Stories. Their guys were protecting them.

 

My conclusion to the spoil-fielded message; I would call Tommy's gang Vercetti Cartel.

 

It's not a Mafia Family as some of these members are not Italian. It ain't a street gang as they don't behave like gangsters.

 

However, they have the caracteristics of a Crime Syndicate or of a Cartel. Anyway, I prefer to tend to the Cartel term to discuss about Tommy's guys.

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BadaBing15
If we compare them to the other gangs of Vice City, San Andreas and Liberty City, they act the same as a Mafia Family or a street gang.

 

Diaz had what we can call bodyguards protecting him before we killed him with Vance. We can also compare Diaz Gang to the Mendez (Brothers') Cartel in Vice City Stories. Their guys were protecting them.

 

My conclusion to the spoil-fielded message; I would call Tommy's gang Vercetti Cartel.

 

It's not a Mafia Family as some of these members are not Italian. It ain't a street gang as they don't behave like gangsters.

 

However, they have the caracteristics of a Crime Syndicate or of a Cartel. Anyway, I prefer to tend to the Cartel term to discuss about Tommy's guys.

A cartel seems accurate, but to be more precise, I have to go with syndicate on this one,

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IluvVCandSA
On 3/23/2011 at 2:46 PM, Carbonox said:

I do think they are just guards sent to protect Tommy's business. They don't seem to care enough about their leader in the final mission however (I mean, where the heck are they?).

Maybe they ran out of weapons. They only carry pistols versus forellis with tec 9s and leaders with rugers 

Truth refered them as a "The Mob". So yeah I think its a gang

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universetwisters

Any collection of people bonded by a shared factor is a gang. Hell, the guys who stand on the side of the highway near my house and flash cars are considered a gang.

 

That said, I don’t see why the vercetti gang can’t be a gang.

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NewGuybj

I always assumed, that they are a gang. But maybe not.

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Evil empire

If your gangsters killed stats increase everytime you kill one there's undoubtedly a Vercetti gang.

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Ahmedmfroezspeed
On 3/14/2011 at 11:04 PM, MyDog said:

Both Wikis say that it's a crime syndicate, but I now think that it's just a group of guards employed to patrol Tommy's businesses. First, when Tommy buys Kaufman Cabs company, he says that he's no part of any gang. Then, the gang does not appear in cutscenes and they don't help Tommy fight Sonny's men in the final mission. I think that "chicken sh*t organization" Sonny mentions is Tommy's empire, not his men, and that the real organization is just composed of Tommy, Ken, Lance and possibly Mike.

false

if they spawn in the mission -keep your friends close-

they attack the forellis if they see them

so they're a gang

plus

they attack rival gangs if they walk in their turfs like cubans and haitians

so yeah, they're a gang

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Eriahslon

Technically,they are as they have their own clothing sets and will attack any opposing gangs that pretty much threaten the businesses.

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Marcos18

I always considerer it to be a group of personal guards.

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The Made Man

Tommy is clearly the leader of a crime family. Surprised people think those wiseguys are just mere guards. Nothing in the game indicates that they are just guards. In the mission Bar Brawl you also see other members of the crime family in the cut-scene. Also they attack rival gangs without Tommy even being there.

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gtafaninwest

I always considered them to be a crime syndicate.

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