II Goonah II Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 When you play through the Niko Bellic storyline in GTAIV, Elizabeta gets taken down by the law after you discover Michelle is a undercover fed and Mannie gets shot. However, in The Lost & Damned, quite a while after all these events, you start doing missions for her again? It just doesn't make sense. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/470335-isnt-elizabeta-supposed-to-be-in-prison/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lolwut Pear Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 I'm pretty sure they take place just as Niko does the final jobs for her. Plus, her trial isn't shown until after Diamond's Are A Girl's Best Friend. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/470335-isnt-elizabeta-supposed-to-be-in-prison/#findComment-1060349600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
II Goonah II Posted February 22, 2011 Author Share Posted February 22, 2011 I'm pretty sure they take place just as Niko does the final jobs for her. Plus, her trial isn't shown until after Diamond's Are A Girl's Best Friend. Do you think? Maybe your right. But I always thought the coke that that foreign women brings in (The Lost & Damned) was the coke that Niko has to shoot and kill for, and then all the police show up? Then again, she is a big drug dealer so it could of been different coke. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/470335-isnt-elizabeta-supposed-to-be-in-prison/#findComment-1060349606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
meson1 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Have a read of this thread: The Possible Trinity.., All Three Stories At The Same Time Basically, these guys tried their best to tie together all three stories. Sadly, the Elizabeta subplot just can't be made to work with everything else timewise so that Niko's last mission for Elizabeta, "Have A Heart", comes last. This is a real shame. It's fairly big hole in the three plots that otherwise fit together fairly well. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/470335-isnt-elizabeta-supposed-to-be-in-prison/#findComment-1060349896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam998 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 gta.wikia.com agrees with you lol. On the Elizabeta Torres page (i think) in the trivia section it says how TLAD missions for her are impossible. Maybe she escaped the cops or got like the best lawyer? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/470335-isnt-elizabeta-supposed-to-be-in-prison/#findComment-1060350115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGTAGamer Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 I think it was a chronological error by Rockstar. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/470335-isnt-elizabeta-supposed-to-be-in-prison/#findComment-1060350198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightwalker83 Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Niko's story and that from TLAD take place at the same time! The TLAD is what is happening at certain points in the game while you are playing through Niko's story. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/470335-isnt-elizabeta-supposed-to-be-in-prison/#findComment-1060350539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic_Al Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 I'm not sure there's really an error. Elizabeta's last words to Niko are, "The heat is closing in, Niko. This particular party is ending." That's her sense of dread, not proof of being arrested. Yes, she sets her voicemail to say try again in twenty years or so, but when would she get to record that if she had been arrested? It's just gallows humor from her dread of being arrested before it actually happens. Proof? When she's actually sentenced she gets 300 years, not 20. If she'd been really been charged she'd correctly know what kind of time she was really facing. So the voice mail is a joke. The explanation for why Johnny doesn't hear that voice mail is Elizabeta using a different phone, as criminals do. I don't see why it can't be that's she's not arrested till after Johnny's missions. The news of her sentencing is not released till after "Diamonds Are a Girl's Best Friend", because there has to be time for legal proceedings after she is arrested. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/470335-isnt-elizabeta-supposed-to-be-in-prison/#findComment-1060350549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimpso Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 gta.wikia.com agrees with you lol. An unmoderated, spam ridden site run by 10 year old fan boys and myth lovers. Use www.grandtheftwiki.com instead. This actually confused me for some time. I always believed the events fit in somehow, but I'm still trying to work it out Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/470335-isnt-elizabeta-supposed-to-be-in-prison/#findComment-1060351939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
II Goonah II Posted February 25, 2011 Author Share Posted February 25, 2011 The only way I could make it believable (I am pretty obsessed with making the storylines run perfect with eachother, and I managed it apart from the Elizabeta part) but I could only assume that Johnny worked his ass off like crazy to catch up with Niko's story, so in order to make this a little more believable I took the longest amount of time to do the last Elizabeta mission. Thanks for all your help though guys, much appreciated. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/470335-isnt-elizabeta-supposed-to-be-in-prison/#findComment-1060354523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam998 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 gta.wikia.com agrees with you lol. An unmoderated, spam ridden site run by 10 year old fan boys and myth lovers. Use www.grandtheftwiki.com instead. This actually confused me for some time. I always believed the events fit in somehow, but I'm still trying to work it out grandtheftwiki.com broke off because they don't like "all the ads". Maybe they're the 10 year olds because their reasons to break off are pretty bitchy Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/470335-isnt-elizabeta-supposed-to-be-in-prison/#findComment-1060354691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlosnitaPufoasa37 Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 i'm not sure but i guess that was the heroin stolen from AoD by TLAD ... and after Billy sends you to Elizabeta to find a buyer for it ! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/470335-isnt-elizabeta-supposed-to-be-in-prison/#findComment-1060355314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Someguy Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 gta.wikia.com agrees with you lol. An unmoderated, spam ridden site run by 10 year old fan boys and myth lovers. Use www.grandtheftwiki.com instead. This actually confused me for some time. I always believed the events fit in somehow, but I'm still trying to work it out Is it me or are they more or less clones of each other? I looked up like 11 articles and I didn't see any major differences in either. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/470335-isnt-elizabeta-supposed-to-be-in-prison/#findComment-1060356455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killzone4 Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 I checked GrandTheftWiki and it looks like gta.wikia.com except in wikipedia style and some of the articles are mostly the same I use gta.wikia.com cause I like the lay-out more and I don't mind the ads as long they are not nasty Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/470335-isnt-elizabeta-supposed-to-be-in-prison/#findComment-1060356461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkpile Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 sh*t like that, plotholes or mistakes happen. bridges open, closed, jim being black/white, who escapes from where first, buildings are different, radio, people wear different clothes, etc etc. for the bigger picture...just ignore these mistakes and try to imagine the trinity is possible. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/470335-isnt-elizabeta-supposed-to-be-in-prison/#findComment-1060356985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuisBellic Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 Here's what I think: Mallorie called Niko after Harboring A Grudge and Liz was arrested, but what if she somehow got out of jail and continued doing Johnny's missions? But the cops would find her again and take her down? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/470335-isnt-elizabeta-supposed-to-be-in-prison/#findComment-1060361873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbatron Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 Here's what I think: Mallorie called Niko after Harboring A Grudge and Liz was arrested, but what if she somehow got out of jail and continued doing Johnny's missions? But the cops would find her again and take her down? I doubt they would have let her out on bail! Escape and recapture seems unlikely. If you blast through Packie's mission as Niko immediately after "Have A Heart", is is possible to get play it simultaneously with TLAD and get "Shifting Weight" completed before Malorie calls about Elizabeta - which makes everything consistent. (It's obviously to critical to get "Three Leaf Clover" complete as this must occur before "Shifting Weight"). You can also back up Malorie's calls a bit, because she must first call you about Michelle following "Snow Storm". This gives you more time. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/470335-isnt-elizabeta-supposed-to-be-in-prison/#findComment-1060362260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funktipus Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Niko's story and that from TLAD take place at the same time! The TLAD is what is happening at certain points in the game while you are playing through Niko's story. That makes the most sense. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/470335-isnt-elizabeta-supposed-to-be-in-prison/#findComment-1060385616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Ant_Warrior Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 Niko's story and that from TLAD take place at the same time! The TLAD is what is happening at certain points in the game while you are playing through Niko's story. That makes the most sense. I thought this was always recognised as being the case? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/470335-isnt-elizabeta-supposed-to-be-in-prison/#findComment-1060407412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now