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4 hours ago, The Time Ranger said:

t's a difficult watch but it's worth it, the film won a few awards but seems to be quite unknown which is a shame. I think it deserves more recognition for what it was and became, a well made gritty documentary which turned tragic, showing firsthand the senseless violence that plaques some aspects of American society.

Seems quite interesting but don't you think the 3rd paragraph of your post is a major spoiler? Maybe you want to edit it :) 

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23 hours ago, Mister Pink said:

I know, it's on my list. 

 

Did you watch it? What did you think?

it's funny and entertaining I guess.

but every single person who appears in it is completely hate-able. just terrible human beings. if it wasn't for the lockdown and lack of of things to do I would have skipped this one. there's enough spoilers and people talking about it on podcasts by now. it's one of those docs which is too long and could've been explored in half the time. Tiger King really speaks for itself. it's wild. it's abhorrent. it's crazy white people being crazy.

 

I need an escape from this escapism. been snacking on these new docs from Vice lately.

 

 

 

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11 hours ago, Awful Waffle said:

it's funny and entertaining I guess.

but every single person who appears in it is completely hate-able. just terrible human beings. if it wasn't for the lockdown and lack of of things to do I would have skipped this one. there's enough spoilers and people talking about it on podcasts by now. it's one of those docs which is too long and could've been explored in half the time. Tiger King really speaks for itself. it's wild. it's abhorrent. it's crazy white people being crazy.

I'll give it a go. Netflix has an almost impeccable track-record for funding documentaries of strange people with really bizarre stories - to the point where I wonder how I haven't heard of the person before. 

 

I posted this a while ago, but will post it again because they aren't that popular but the their stories are crazy. 2 documentaries about rock climbing. Yeah, I've no interest in rock climbing as a hobby or sport, but.. these people are mental!

 

The narrative in the first one is great. Because they show you these free-wheelin' hippie maverick types that end up drinking while up on cliff and dropping LSD vs the other group which were more conservative and conscientious. Both groups trying to outdo each other climbing impossible cliffs. Every time one or more people does this crazy millstone of climbing an impossible and not before climbed cliff-face you just go "wow!" and then 10 years late some other mental case will top that record by doing something even more dangerous and insane. This documentary is basically: "Thats impossible." until some crazy guy comes along and does it. Each generation since the 60's and 70's tops the previous generations records. It's specatular. I couldn't believe rock-climbing could be so crazy. 

 

 

 

The second one is truly amazing too. This guy who goes off with his girlfriend, ends up being kidnapped by some Islamists that end up shooting at them mid-climb, ends up pushing one of the captors off a cliff and escapes. He felt ridden with guilt for pushing the Islamist off the cliff. Later, he ends up losing a thumb and is told he probably can't climb again. Ends up doing a mad rigorous training regime to strengthen his stump of a thumb, ends up climbing again and breaking new ground and does the Dawn Wall. The guy Tommy Caldwell was the first to free-climb El-Capitan, in Yosimite. And the first to climb the Dawn Wall section. Insane.

 

If anyone likes a feel-good doc, you should watch these, especially the second one will make you feel good and really inspired. It's amazing what people can achieve when they have determination. 

 

 

 

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Consider it done, it was a spoiler alright.

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Excellent shot-doc about the Hip Hop and Rock/Mental connection with Run The Jewels. 

 

 

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"Jack, I can't feel my legs."

"You ain't gonna' need 'em."

 

this sh!t is so wild.

 

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Lonely-Martin

The Trials of Gabriel Fernandez on Netflix.

 

Had to stop watching this one as it was too much and started to overwhelm me. Be warned, it's similar to the Baby P. case (though this child was a bit older than Baby P) in how it all could have been stopped and the system completely failed the poor boy here.

 

Not recommended. Too graphic and detailed for me, though I do agree the systematic failures must be highlighted so much to see more done to protect children, I hope it did/does. They had so many opportunities to help (at least up to where I got to, but Netflix doc's can throw up a twist, so I could be misinformed by not seeing it through to learn more).

 

@Awful Waffle. That Dark Side of the Ring series is excellent though. Not seen part 2 of the Benoit case just yet, nor the New Jack one, but keen to as I know that New Jack fella is one crazy bastard, lol. Blimey!

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GTA-Biker

Anyone else likes documentaries about prehistoric life?My favorites would be Walking With Dinosaurs/Beasts/Monsters/Cavemen, Prehistoric Park, Planet Dinosaur, Dinosaur Planet, and When Dinosaurs Roamed America.

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Directed by acclaimed director and long-time collaborator Spike Jonze.

 

 

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ilovebender.com

 

How free trade deals with the EU and China stop developing economies from developing as EU and China dump cheaper goods undercutting local farmers who are powerless to stop this because of Free Trade Deals.

What's in these Free Trade Deals for them?

It's just like CETA, EU sells, doesn't buy.

 

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This is insane! Watch guys surf these big waves. 

 

 

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I randomly saw this on the BBC and it quickly had me hooked, it's about skating rinks, not ice rinks but actual roller skate rinks. It follows the fate of several of these instutions and their users across the USA, and the mainly Africian-American cliental and the subculture that has grown and blossomed around it. 

 

I never realized roller rinks had such culture, different states has their own signature moves, there's an "adult night" which serves as a socalizing event as well as a skating one. It's a community affair, a safe place to hang out, catch up and of course skate. Emphasis on the word safe, the documentary explains that in LA there were two skate rinks, one in Crips territory, and one in Bloods territory, when the ring in the Bloods territory closed there was an influx of people to the remaining rink, some of them gang members, turns out the gang leaders on both sides decided to make the rink a neutral zone where people could skate in peace, the only other place this happens is in church.

 

It's a subject matter I didn't think I would be interested in, but I was so drawn in by the culture, the people, and their stories about what it means to them, that by the end I was really enjoying this interesting and engrossing passion project.

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On 8/4/2020 at 8:06 PM, The Time Ranger said:

It's a subject matter I didn't think I would be interested in

That's the thing about a good feature length documentary. When I was a teen. My idea of a documentary were those TV documentaries with lots of talking heads, recaps every quarter and ads. But when you start to discover feature-length cinema-release documentaries, then it changes everything. And the subject matter becomes almost irrelevant. Because the documentary shows you something that's interesting in a interesting way. Or something that doesn't seem that interesting in an interesting way. 

 

so lately and in this thread, you'll see documentaries I post that I have little or no interest in the subject matter or I'm indifferent. But I know the quality is there, I can learn something. I'm try to open some friends and family to this idea. Like I had no interest in rock climbing but then I seen Valley Uprising and then The Dawn Wall and my mind was blown! The narrative in the each of those stories is just INSANE. There are so many crazy stories about guys drinking up on the clifface doing acid, dudes being held hostage by Islamic fighters and then losing a finger and becoming a bigger and better climber. it's crazy!

 

On 8/4/2020 at 8:06 PM, The Time Ranger said:

I never realized roller rinks had such culture, different states has their own signature moves, there's an "adult night" which serves as a socalizing event as well as a skating one. It's a community affair, a safe place to hang out, catch up and of course skate.

I love the sound of this. I love learning about unusual subcultures. Documentaries about people, doing things they love is so inspiring. Two docs I'll recommend (aside from the climbing ones I just mentioned) 

 

American Movie (1999)  - This one the Grand Jury Prize at Sundance. It's brilliant. Follows two best friends, one an acid casualty abstaining from partying and his best friend Marc who is a struggling filmmaker as he tries to make this short horror film. 

 

 

And the other is Paris Is Burning. But I have a feeling its you that we spoke about that one before? Not sure. 

 

 

Bonus one:  (I think the dislikes for the trailer is because Billy Mitchell was caught cheating but he's portrayed as the bad guy anyway) 

 

 

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That American Movie looks interesting, I vaguely remember reading about it on imdb, must give it a watch, no it wasn't me you were discussing Paris is Burning with, I must check it out though, New York in the 80's was a real melting pot of culture and art.

 

Because the documentary shows you something that's interesting in a interesting way. Or something that doesn't seem that interesting in an interesting way.

This paragraph by you sums it up really, roller skating was something that I though about last when I was 8, and was choosing between skates and a scooter, (the scooter won) But that's the beauty of a good documentary, even the mundane can become interesting.

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Mister Pink

Cecil Hotel and The Night Stalker are two good docs/docu-series on Netflix right now. 

 

 

 

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Watched this recently. Old, still very interesting though considering he still hasn't been located. Tragic story.

 

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This looks interesting:

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The CGI looks pretty good for a prehistoric animals documentary,and it's awesome that they got Nigel Marven to narrate it.

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Candy_Licker

Only stumbled upon this thread now.

 

As a history nerd, I can heartily recommend the Fall Of Civilizations series on youtube. Only 12 episodes so far unfortunately since they must take forever to make. Excellent quality and the voice of the guy is so smooth it's a chilling watch right before bed.

 

History Time is also great in this regard.

 

Currently, I'm really fascinated by the earliest civilizations in Mesopotamia - Sumerians, Akkadians, Assyrians etc. The channel History with Cy has a great playlist that covers it all

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On 7/11/2021 at 6:24 PM, Candy_Licker said:

Highly recommended

 

Great doc! Haven't watched it a long time but would also highly recommend, especially if anyone is a fan of Adam Curtis. 

 

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Lonely-Martin

@Mister Pink

 

Just in case this appeals, it's on Netflix. I've only seen the first episode myself but seems interesting, but will watch the rest soon enough. Same director too. :)

 

 

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8 hours ago, Lonely-Martin said:

Just in case this appeals, it's on Netflix. I've only seen the first episode myself but seems interesting, but will watch the rest soon enough. Same director too. :)

Cheers bud. Yeah. I saw it on Netflix, haven't actually watched it yet. I've seen the original documentary which is great. Well, except for the fact that it plays like a long trailer.. constant music, lots of cuts.. maybe the editors were high on coke 😛  

 

Seriously though, I loved it because for a while I though Scarface was OTT but after watching it makes Scarface much more real and plausible. Would be great to watch this and again play the new remastered Vice City. 

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4 hours ago, Mister Pink said:

Cheers bud. Yeah. I saw it on Netflix, haven't actually watched it yet. I've seen the original documentary which is great. Well, except for the fact that it plays like a long trailer.. constant music, lots of cuts.. maybe the editors were high on coke 😛  

 

Seriously though, I loved it because for a while I though Scarface was OTT but after watching it makes Scarface much more real and plausible. Would be great to watch this and again play the new remastered Vice City. 

 

Yeah, a very fast paced documentary but it was quite fresh compared to the more slower paced we're more used to I think. I feel likewise with how that era/lifestyle just had such colourful and lively people it seems. The original doc was a great watch and the amount of money/excess etc and the ease of it all back then just gave so much room for egos to grow so much, Al Pacino seemed to really embrace it too with the classic Scarface movie we got. 

 

Hopefully this one with more time to tell the story over the 6 episodes suits it better, but the first episode did have that familiar feel. But as the first ep, it could just be to hook in those that enjoyed the previous before diving in deep. We'll see. Enjoy! :)

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Incredible documentary on Netflix called Some Kind of Heaven. It follows the lives of different retirees that live in this mega retirement community called The Villages in Florida where there are many different activities to do daily. It's like some kind of Disneyland for the elderly. It's a feature length doc in 4:3 format, and I notice it looks they are using some pro-mist filters and it has a very filmic or cinematic quality to the cinematography. I reallly reccomend this for anyone that enjoys people watching and wants a peak into another world. 

 

 

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The Act of Killing is a film about some of the perpetrators of the Indonesian genocide, a must-watch documentary.

 

 

 

 

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Darth Absentis

slightly unrelated, but i really dig whatever content i so far have seen of the youtube channel called: epic history TV.

I love the narrating and just overall quite informative neutral content.

 

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