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Mister Pink

Documentaries Discussion..

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El Dildo

this is one of those Vice docs, so it's short.

but this is incredible stuff.

 

 

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Abel.

Some great-looking documentaries in here, lads.

 

Anyway, GunWrath and I were discussing a favourite documentary of mine in this thread:

 

http://gtaforums.com/topic/664124-a-question-for-soldiers/

 

It's called Nazi Hunters and concerns the operations undergone by Mossad agents to bring Nazi war criminals to justice after the second world war.

 

Here's one of my favourite episodes:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Some very shocking footage and, being a documentary about hunting Nazis, some extremely grisly details. However, learning about how the missions to capture the ex-Nazis were done is very interesting.

 

El_Diablo: It's horrible to see children suffer such afflictions as cancer as they basically deprive them of a childhood. Great sig by the way.

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GunWrath

I vouch for Nazi Hunters as well, WWII history is always a decent thing to watch. Eye-opening and unbelievable the things that happened.

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UtricularEwe001

By watching various WW2/Nazi Documentaries over the years, I learned that there are people, who are worse than the Führer himeself.

 

People like Heinrich Himmler (Commander of the SS), Ilse Koch (Bitch of Buchenwald) and Mengele (Angel of death). And Last but not least, the architect of the Holocaust, Adolf Eichmann.

 

But if you aske me, there were some great scientists and strategists too. But it just they were on the wrong side.

 

People like Wernher von Braun, Oskar Schindler and Erwin Rommel.

 

I'd recommend you guys to watch Nazi Megastructures if you are interested.

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Brobinski

 

I'm looking to see if I can catch The Act of Killing and How to Make Money Selling Drugs sometime in the future.

 

Didn't watch either of these, went for Leviathan instead:

 

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Leviathan is a documentary film unlike many you'll see. There is no narration, no interviews or dialogue, no soundtrack and no text on screen. What you get is just 90 minutes of raw footage from a New England dragnet ship. Leviathan is a film that invites you to feel rather than think.

 

Born from the brains of two anthropologists, this art film come documentary was created by people who aren't fans of normal documentaries. Lucien Castaing-Taylor, who partnered with Verena Paravel to produce Leviathan, has said in the past how much he hates "being told what to think about something, I feel that I want to resist the authority of [a] documentarian" and as such set out to create something that doesn't tell you anything, it just shows you and lets you decide how you feel about that.

 

Castaing Taylor has said "Documentary claims to have this privileged purchase on a truthful version of reality but most documentaries' representation of the real is so attenuated and so discourse-based and language-based. We lie and we mystify ourselves with words. Words can only take us so far." So how do you get around the lies of language? Don't use it.

 

There isn't a word uttered in the entirety of Leviathan, at least not an intelligible one that matters. There are some shouts and grunts from the fisherman but they could be in any language and mean anything. It's not surprising that these film makers are anthropologists by trade; Leviathan comes off largely like a documentary about fisherman as if they were just another part of the environment, as if the filmakers were looking at humanity's role here from an outsider's persective.

 

The men and the ship themselves do just become part of the seascape on the same level as everything else. The hazy and trippy approach taken by Castaing-Taylor and Paravel paints a very primal picture. There are extremely long shots, often of things than many would deem pointless, taken from strange angles and focussing on unusual things. Leviathan is almost a gallery exhibition. There isn't a narrative thread running through the documentary. It's just a collection of striking images that are open to interpretation from the viewer.

 

And what striking images they are. Brtual and apocalyptic. A tale of blood and salt, bright lights and the black abyss; Leviathan is full of visceral and frenetic visuals. Cameras were strapped to anything that they could be: the boat, the nets, poles to be held overboard and even the fishermen themselves. Often shot from floor level or from below the waves, Leviathan could be seen, at times, to be a documentary on fishing through a fish eye lens.

 

The rivers of blood from beheading and gutting the fish, the churning black waves with white foam, the floodlights, the screeching gulls and the roars and crashes of the sea create a portrait of sound and fury on the water that will stay with any viewer for a long time, whether they enjoy the experience or not.

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Misbegotten cad

Im very worriedof the falling standards of docs in both BBC and National G.

 

In the old days they did sterling docs full of hard facts.

 

Today most of their stuff is 'fun' and 'light' docs that seem to be made for retards and kids.

 

No real history and fact fan would watch that sort of rubbish.

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Brown Sugar

Vice in North Korea, what is there not to be interested in here. North Korea is one weird f*cking place. It's kind of out of date considering it was filmed when Kim Jong Il was still in power, I'd say if anything it would be even more crazy if they went back now.

 

 

 

 

 

apparently you can only embed 2 youtube videos per post now? Obviously there's a part 3.

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El Dildo

really good short doc on homophobia in professional sports:

 

 

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Tracksuit Hitman

Have any of you been keeping up with the new season of Yukon Men? I only started watching it last year and I was just pulled in straight away. Without rabbling on, it's basically about a few families out in Tanana who need to collect supplies (such as wood) and hunt in order to survive and feed their families before the harsh Winter comes. It's both interesting and very entertaining. Seriously, if you haven't seen it yet, go and watch it!

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SAUL_SILVER

Here are few i have watched lately that others might find interesting.

 

Ed Stafford walking the Amazon. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1874815/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

 

The story of Ed Stafford's 2 1/2 year journey to become the first man to walk the length of the Amazon River. The guy was really brave or stupid i just can't decide. :O

 

 

The Summit. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2363471/?ref_=nv_sr_1

 

The story of the deadliest day on the world's most dangerous mountain, when 11 climbers mysteriously perished on K2.

 

A couple for comic fans.

 

Necessary Evil; Super Villians of DC comics. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3033478/?ref_=fn_al_tt_3

 

A documentary detailing the epic Rogues' Gallery of DC Comics from The Joker and Lex Luthor, Sinestro, Darkseid and more, this documentary will explore the Super Villains of DC Comics

 

Secret Origin; The Story of DC comics. http://A documentary detailing the epic Rogues' Gallery of DC Comics from The Joker and Lex Luthor, Sinestro, Darkseid and more, this documentary will explore the Super Villains of DC Comics

 

A look at the history of the comic book publication that launched such legendary characters as Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman.

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enormous

Excellent documentary about our space program told from the engineers point of view:

 

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RoadRunner71

Have any of you been keeping up with the new season of Yukon Men? I only started watching it last year and I was just pulled in straight away. Without rabbling on, it's basically about a few families out in Tanana who need to collect supplies (such as wood) and hunt in order to survive and feed their families before the harsh Winter comes. It's both interesting and very entertaining. Seriously, if you haven't seen it yet, go and watch it!

I haven't ever seen it but, isn't that kind of 'documentaries' actually scripted?

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RoadRunner71

Yesterday I watched a pretty interesting Canadian documentary on the History Channel (incredible, a doc in the HC that's not about conspiracies, aliens or pawnshops!) about the creation of the Anthrax as a biological warfare weapon. Unfortunately, I can't figure out how it's called or if it's avaliable in English.

 

I found it pretty impressive, the Allieds would, or at least could, have won the war independently of how it developed on the ground thanks to the Anthrax.

 

It's called 'Le project N'. I couldn't find the whole documentary in Youtube.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giXGcShIA0Q

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Misbegotten cad

The reason why National Geographic and History channels are so stoopid these days, is simple: Government!

 

Us Government wants to keep the people of US as simple and as ignorant as possible.

-because ignorant people are easier to control, and are easier to brainwash with baseless government propaganda.

Ad for this very reason US government prohibited american tv houses from broadcasting anything even slightly intelligent.

 

And you can already see the result of this government program:

-half of americans cannot even read!

-and most americans really believe that USA is the best country in the world! (some efficient brainwashing eh?)

 

More proof: Ask an american what is happening in India or in Chile. They will not know. Ask European the same, and he will give you concise and informative answer.

 

Really, USA is turning into a Soviet Union. For in CCCP they also had government that denied people any real knowledge!

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El Dildo

are you daft?

the History Channel and NatGeo are not controlled by the government.

 

the reason they started showing so many scripted programs instead of documentaries has nothing to do with keeping people ignorant and everything to do with simple economics; those shows are cheap to produce and bring in a lot of viewers which = $$$$$$$$. but it's not like they just gave up on their original programming either.

 

NatGeo and History have both expanded their original content into new channels (like Wild Planet, Smithsonian, and H2) which actually still show all of the good documentaries and none of the new reality TV junk.

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cactus.

I found this one very interesting:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH-kNnq7mFM

 

A Japanese couple flirts with poverty and depression among other things. It can be pretty sad, but the central character Naoki is very sympathetic and hard not to like.

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theworldfamous

I really can't recommend the films of Adam Curtis enough. Everything is good but if you want to start I'd recommend Century of the Self as that combines most of the themes from his other films.

 

Excellent histories of social engineering, ideology and the results of our current technocratic world view without going into wildeyed conspiracy theories.

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Mister Pink

I only watched Century of the Self last year. All the stuff about Edward Bernays and the suffragettes and smoking was just mind blowing.

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theworldfamous

Very profound film, one of the few that actually ever truly changed my way of thinking.

But he's brilliant with his linking historical developments to individuals and ideas, he's been doing that since the 90's actually. It's almost all equally fascinating and at points where it isn't, it's saved by the magical found footage.

The Trap, Power of Nightmares and Pandora's Box are just as good.

 

He seems to be moving towards live performances more lately, working with the guys from Massive Attack, which is simply awesome but probably too artsy for most here:

 

 

 

 

and just for fun:

 

 

Another great documentary tip is Journeyman Pictures.

It seems they buy the rights to good, in depth news reports from news agencies across the world to publish on Youtube. All kinds of topics, and a lot of it.

They have a channel on YouTube that's well worth checking out.

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Mister Pink

Excellent.. Just seen he did a segment on one of Charlie Brookers Wipe shows... pretty good.

 

And yes, seem to notice some Journeyman Pictures logos on great docs I've watched in the past.

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Mister Pink

Bump:

 

Just watched Pantani: Accidental Death of a Cyclist.

 

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The last person to win the Tour De France and the Giro d'Italia in the same year. Really great and sad documentary. It's on Netflix UK. I would highly recommend it.

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Mister Pink

Triple post? Shall I just let this topic die? Are we not watching documentaries any more?

 

Ladies and gents... first really authorized doc of Kurt Cobain. Access to family, friends, never before seen personal footage as him as a kid and intimate moments with his family. This looks ridiculously good.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IBWbpJdRMQ

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Brobinski

Triple post? Shall I just let this topic die? Are we not watching documentaries any more?

 

Ladies and gents... first really authorized doc of Kurt Cobain. Access to family, friends, never before seen personal footage as him as a kid and intimate moments with his family. This looks ridiculously good.

 

 

Reported for triple posting. You must be new here...

 

The Cobain doc looks great. I can't decide if I love or hate the string version of SLTS on there though. It's one of those though, no middle ground.

 

This is a doc I've been meaning to watch for a while, since I heard it mentioned on one of my favourite podcasts. Not exactly light viewing, but it's interesting to say the least.

 

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krashr

i really enjoyed this 3 part doco when it was on a while ago

 

 

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Mister Pink

Brobinski: You're rat!!! :p

 

Yeah me too.. Every time I hear a cover of that song.. something is a little off, even a little tacky I mean I love the melody but it's like it's only supposed to be on a raw, distorted guitar. Anyway, I can't wait to see it.

 

As for The Bridge, I'm surprised you haven't watched it yet being the buff you are :p. It's always been on YouTube, since I can remember. What a harrowing documentary. By no means is it exploitative like some detractors may think. I mean you can't really stop that unless you have wardens on the bridge 24/7. Even then, people will find another way.

 

What really gripped me (coming from guy who has been hospitalized for depression) is one or two of the jumpers so non-nonchalantly just got up and jumped or let themselves go over. There was no reservations. No time to think twice. They were adamant they were going to die that day and they did it with such conviction.

 

Most people go through hard times, turmoil, depression. It usually clouds their brains, consumes them. There's an inner battle with ones self, self harming and self-hate among many other things associated with mental ilness or depression but some people. And feeling that way, some people are a little undecided about anything they want with their lives and being stuck in a rut. But some of those jumpers.... they just go for it..without any hesitation or second thoughts. One minute they look like they're out for a stroll. Next minute they're hopping the fence... no waiting around.

 

It makes me sad and scared. I'm glad that documentary exists. People need to see the reality of suicide and also the impact on victims families. And yes, I say victim.

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Scarface187

Ran through the pages of this topic quick to make sure I don't bring up stuff that's already been mentioned. Saw Crumb was already mentioned, that's a good one. He's a weird guy. Here are a few I definitely recommend:

 

Hearts and Minds is a great documentary about the Vietnam war. Released either right after the war or right before the end. Got a lot of Full Metal Jacket feelings from this one.

 

 

 

Cropsey starts off being about an urban legend and dives into a story of a more real life Boogeyman.

 

 

 

 

And my favorite documentary in recent years by far, Jodorowsky's Dune. It's a fantastic look at Alejandro Jodorowsky's film adaptation of Dune that was ultimately never made. Not only does it go through all the things leading up to the studio pulling the plug on the project but they in a way put scenes together using storyboards from the big Dune book that Jodorowsky has in his house. It's a really great documentary and Jodorowsky himself says some really inspirational stuff throughout the movie.

 

 

 

 

Another one I want to recommend really quick is The Square too.

 

 

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Mister Pink

Ah! Thanks for reminding me about Dune!

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Ai®a©ob®a

Anybody else watch the HBO Documentary with Robert Durst called "The Jinx"?

 

If not i'm sure you heard about his most recent arrest for murder and i'd suggest you check it out.

 

For those who did what did you think about the finale? Did you see it coming?

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krashr

i watched "going clear: scientology and the prison of belief".. it was pretty interesting

 

 

i am a cock gobbler and i love to gobble cocks

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Mister Pink

i watched "going clear: scientology and the prison of belief".. it was pretty interesting

 

 

i am a cock gobbler and i love to gobble cocks

 

Oooh! That's next on my list! Heard great things about it.

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