*MURDOC* Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Uhh yeah, that's basically what I was alluding to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gtaman_92 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 I dont plan to get a ps vita. In 2009 i would have brought it but right now in the 2010s it seem so out of place. I would rather buy a tablet or another ipod touch since my ipod touch is becoming outdated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Saw a genuine TV advert for it this week, but Sony doesn't seem to be pushing it as much as they did PS3! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evh5150vanhalen Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Saw a genuine TV advert for it this week, but Sony doesn't seem to be pushing it as much as they did PS3! That's because they don't have what one would call a "killer app" for it yet, wait until a few more interesting games come out then they'll start pushing it hard lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Effy in Chains Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 I read on some forums the OLED screen of the Vita is made by Samsung & has some possible slight problem... Some people say that in pitch darkness, there are weird discolored imperfections on the screen, some which look like thick cracks inside the organic material. Now 99% of these people say the problem only occurs during black loading screens, whereas a couple guys said they had screen problems during gameplay. Sources: http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=666552 http://www.amazon.com/PS-Vita-Screen-Issue...asin=B003O6EATE Anyway can some of you test playing your Vita in the dark, & tell me if there are any weird problems with the OLED display? Thanks. I'm literally desperate to buy a Vita this weekend, so I just want confirmation that what I read was bullsh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Effy in Chains Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Saw a genuine TV advert for it this week, but Sony doesn't seem to be pushing it as much as they did PS3! That's because they don't have what one would call a "killer app" for it yet, wait until a few more interesting games come out then they'll start pushing it hard lol I think this will be their first "killer app"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccrogers15 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Saw a genuine TV advert for it this week, but Sony doesn't seem to be pushing it as much as they did PS3! I think it may be because the vita is not a major release. Its a spinoff release. (portable, not home main console like the numbered releases). Wait till ps4, then you will see lots of ads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzbegone Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 (edited) I read on some forums the OLED screen of the Vita is made by Samsung & has some possible slight problem... Some people say that in pitch darkness, there are weird discolored imperfections on the screen, some which look like thick cracks inside the organic material. Now 99% of these people say the problem only occurs during black loading screens, whereas a couple guys said they had screen problems during gameplay. Sources: http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=666552 http://www.amazon.com/PS-Vita-Screen-Issue...asin=B003O6EATE Anyway can some of you test playing your Vita in the dark, & tell me if there are any weird problems with the OLED display? Thanks. I'm literally desperate to buy a Vita this weekend, so I just want confirmation that what I read was bullsh*t. Funny thing actually. I was playing VCS on it last night in the dark and while the loading screens popped up, I could see those splotches you were talking about. Didn't really freak me out but got me curious. Haven't seen them outside of the pitch black zone, so they aren't really a game-changer. I'm still waiting for this damn thing to be hacked or some decent games to come out already like CoD and Assassin's Creed which have been confirmed. I'm a bit pissed that Rockstar haven't added dual analog support for VCS, but I wait... EDIT: Found this interesting article. Keep in mind, it's pretty early days but we can hope. GTA IV: Stories, anyone? http://pspslimhacks.com/rumor-gta-iv-stori...-than-expected/ About time Sony got some love after those 360 exclusives. Edited March 1, 2012 by buzbegone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Effy in Chains Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 I read on some forums the OLED screen of the Vita is made by Samsung & has some possible slight problem... Some people say that in pitch darkness, there are weird discolored imperfections on the screen, some which look like thick cracks inside the organic material. Now 99% of these people say the problem only occurs during black loading screens, whereas a couple guys said they had screen problems during gameplay. Sources: http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=666552 http://www.amazon.com/PS-Vita-Screen-Issue...asin=B003O6EATE Anyway can some of you test playing your Vita in the dark, & tell me if there are any weird problems with the OLED display? Thanks. I'm literally desperate to buy a Vita this weekend, so I just want confirmation that what I read was bullsh*t. Funny thing actually. I was playing VCS on it last night in the dark and while the loading screens popped up, I could see those splotches you were talking about. Didn't really freak me out but got me curious. Haven't seen them outside of the pitch black zone, so they aren't really a game-changer. I'm still waiting for this damn thing to be hacked or some decent games to come out already like CoD and Assassin's Creed which have been confirmed. I'm a bit pissed that Rockstar haven't added dual analog support for VCS, but I wait... EDIT: Found this interesting article. Keep in mind, it's pretty early days but we can hope. GTA IV: Stories, anyone? http://pspslimhacks.com/rumor-gta-iv-stori...-than-expected/ About time Sony got some love after those 360 exclusives. So those splotches only happen during loading, or when gameplay features pitch blackness too? Anyway, thanks for sharing that link, GTA IV: Stories would be great. Oh & is VCS still very fun to play on Vita, despite lack of dual analogue support? Does the resolution get upscaled & fill the full screen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC. Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 @Buz: Interesting. So the PSP game you downloaded. Are you able to download PSP games that you already bought as a UMD or are you only able to download it if it's from bought just from PSN? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacko427 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 I read on some forums the OLED screen of the Vita is made by Samsung & has some possible slight problem... Some people say that in pitch darkness, there are weird discolored imperfections on the screen, some which look like thick cracks inside the organic material. Now 99% of these people say the problem only occurs during black loading screens, whereas a couple guys said they had screen problems during gameplay. Sources: http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=666552 http://www.amazon.com/PS-Vita-Screen-Issue...asin=B003O6EATE Anyway can some of you test playing your Vita in the dark, & tell me if there are any weird problems with the OLED display? Thanks. I'm literally desperate to buy a Vita this weekend, so I just want confirmation that what I read was bullsh*t. Do you have screenshot from that topic in your first link? I can't be arsed to register just to see that screenshot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzbegone Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 (edited) So those splotches only happen during loading, or when gameplay features pitch blackness too? Anyway, thanks for sharing that link, GTA IV: Stories would be great. Oh & is VCS still very fun to play on Vita, despite lack of dual analogue support? Does the resolution get upscaled & fill the full screen? I've only encountered the splotches with the loading screens but they're invisible when the system is off. It's the backlight that showing these dodgy markings but I'd like to know why they're there. VCS is as fun as I remembered but the lack of dual analogue support does frustrate me from time to time but I've come to get used to it from past experience with older PSP models. It's sort of a new experience as the bottom-left nub is now an actual stick which feels more fluid if not a bit undersized. It's a full screen experience but it looks a little shabby on a bigger screen. The game just simply wasn't optimized for the PS Vita's screen with edges of buildings and cars looking a touch out of date. Not to mention graphics still popping up which was prevelant with the PSP. One would think the problem would've been corrected with the Vita's sheer power but I guess it's all in the code. Most to be expected with a game that's pushing 6 years old but Sony's claim that upscaling is worth the repurchase leaves me a bit disappointed. @Buz: Interesting. So the PSP game you downloaded. Are you able to download PSP games that you already bought as a UMD or are you only able to download it if it's from bought just from PSN? I caved and bought it on the PSN for about $12 AUS even though I have the UMD. I'm rather pissed that Sony has basically said 'f*ck you' to Euro/US consumers who actually bothered to buy UMDs and want to relive the experience. Especially since the Japanese market has got the UMD passport system. Yes, it would be nice but no... it's Sony. Do you have screenshot from that topic in your first link?I can't be arsed to register just to see that screenshot. It looks much worse than it really is. Edited March 1, 2012 by buzbegone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lkkarus Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Vita PSA: Hold down the touch screen when playing a PSP game. You will be able to assign controls to the right analog stick, bi-linear filtering for the upscaling process (PS Vita has exactly 4x the resolution of PSP and this already helps with the upscaling process) and a color correction option to compensate the fact that PS Vita uses an OLED screen while those PSP games were designed for an LCD screen (and even then we have to account for the PSP 3000 screen with an extended color space). You are welcome buzbegone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzbegone Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Vita PSA: Hold down the touch screen when playing a PSP game. You will be able to assign controls to the right analog stick, bi-linear filtering for the upscaling process (PS Vita has exactly 4x the resolution of PSP and this already helps with the upscaling process) and a color correction option to compensate the fact that PS Vita uses an OLED screen while those PSP games were designed for an LCD screen (and even then we have to account for the PSP 3000 screen with an extended color space). You are welcome buzbegone. Wow, you are considerate. I'll check out in a couple of hours and report back. Thank a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ll rdny ll Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Vita PSA: Hold down the touch screen when playing a PSP game. You will be able to assign controls to the right analog stick, bi-linear filtering for the upscaling process (PS Vita has exactly 4x the resolution of PSP and this already helps with the upscaling process) and a color correction option to compensate the fact that PS Vita uses an OLED screen while those PSP games were designed for an LCD screen (and even then we have to account for the PSP 3000 screen with an extended color space). You are welcome buzbegone. Wow, you are considerate. I'll check out in a couple of hours and report back. Thank a lot Does it work?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzbegone Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 (edited) Vita PSA: Hold down the touch screen when playing a PSP game. You will be able to assign controls to the right analog stick, bi-linear filtering for the upscaling process (PS Vita has exactly 4x the resolution of PSP and this already helps with the upscaling process) and a color correction option to compensate the fact that PS Vita uses an OLED screen while those PSP games were designed for an LCD screen (and even then we have to account for the PSP 3000 screen with an extended color space). You are welcome buzbegone. Wow, you are considerate. I'll check out in a couple of hours and report back. Thank a lot Does it work?? Yep. I didn't notice any definitive change with the Bilinear Filter or the Colour Correction option but if I could take screenshots of them for comparison, I would. You can add a function to the right stick so it doubles as: The left stick, D-pad or the pad which is a neat idea but still, no camera rotation for VCS There is a fourth option to alternate the in-built camera between front and rear. For games like Animalz, I guess. Also, the PSV's screen (960 × 544) is exactly double the PSP's (480x272) Edited March 2, 2012 by buzbegone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 (edited) Was looking in a Verizon phone catalog my mom got me, Sony Eriksson (however it's spelled) has a Playstation capable phone, with the same PSP or PS style control scheme, anyone game on this and can tell us about it?? Assuming if you don't rely on your PSP copy of LCS or VCS, and Sony insist you buy it off PSN, send them your UMD copy and complain about the name they endowed it with! How much like Intel EXTREME graphics, it's somehow the exact OPPOSITE!???! Edited March 3, 2012 by Slamman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Effy in Chains Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Was looking in a Verizon phone catalog my mom got me, Sony Eriksson (however it's spelled) has a Playstation capable phone, with the same PSP or PS style control scheme, anyone game on this and can tell us about it?? Assuming if you don't rely on your PSP copy of LCS or VCS, and Sony insist you buy it off PSN, send them your UMD copy and complain about the name they endowed it with! How much like Intel EXTREME graphics, it's somehow the exact OPPOSITE!???! Found it here Slammy... http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-02-verizo...laystation.html Not sexy like a Vita. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew1g Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 @buzbegone, that screen is exactly what my OLED phone has, this seems to be an issue with OLED screens in general. it only happens when there's a "pure black" display, that is when the system is not actually displaying on screen but the backlight is on. whenever there's a black scene, these splotches seem to go away, at least on my phone anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzbegone Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 @buzbegone, that screen is exactly what my OLED phone has, this seems to be an issue with OLED screens in general. it only happens when there's a "pure black" display, that is when the system is not actually displaying on screen but the backlight is on. whenever there's a black scene, these splotches seem to go away, at least on my phone anyway. Basically what I was saying except I couldn't put it properly so ta. I gotta say, I'm pretty disappointed with VCS's performance on the Vita. From loading screens to slowdowns experienced from the PSP (Vice Point Mall, Phil Collin's cutscene entry), the game's framerate on Vita performs identically to its inferior counterpart. I suppose it's all in the way the game was put together and what limits there were at the time, but come on! It's a shame really as I noticed on the PSN store 'Michael Jackson: The Experience HD'. Now, if you can create a ripoff game of one of the most influential artists ever born and update it to HD for a system overhaul, you'd assume a company like Rockstar would be at the ready for something like this, but no. Jesus, even the f*cken' PS2 version has better framerates than the Vita. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gta_king Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 @buzbegone, that screen is exactly what my OLED phone has, this seems to be an issue with OLED screens in general. it only happens when there's a "pure black" display, that is when the system is not actually displaying on screen but the backlight is on. whenever there's a black scene, these splotches seem to go away, at least on my phone anyway. Basically what I was saying except I couldn't put it properly so ta. I gotta say, I'm pretty disappointed with VCS's performance on the Vita. From loading screens to slowdowns experienced from the PSP (Vice Point Mall, Phil Collin's cutscene entry), the game's framerate on Vita performs identically to its inferior counterpart. I suppose it's all in the way the game was put together and what limits there were at the time, but come on! It's a shame really as I noticed on the PSN store 'Michael Jackson: The Experience HD'. Now, if you can create a ripoff game of one of the most influential artists ever born and update it to HD for a system overhaul, you'd assume a company like Rockstar would be at the ready for something like this, but no. Jesus, even the f*cken' PS2 version has better framerates than the Vita. Well not really because Michael Jackson The Experience HD is an actual launch title for the Vita that was developed by a team at Ubisoft for the Vita. Whereas VCS is just a game made for the PSP that is running by emulation on the PSVita, Rockstar haven't done or had any part to play here it's just the same game that's been on the store for ages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*MURDOC* Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 @buzbegone, that screen is exactly what my OLED phone has, this seems to be an issue with OLED screens in general. it only happens when there's a "pure black" display, that is when the system is not actually displaying on screen but the backlight is on. whenever there's a black scene, these splotches seem to go away, at least on my phone anyway. Basically what I was saying except I couldn't put it properly so ta. I gotta say, I'm pretty disappointed with VCS's performance on the Vita. From loading screens to slowdowns experienced from the PSP (Vice Point Mall, Phil Collin's cutscene entry), the game's framerate on Vita performs identically to its inferior counterpart. I suppose it's all in the way the game was put together and what limits there were at the time, but come on! It's a shame really as I noticed on the PSN store 'Michael Jackson: The Experience HD'. Now, if you can create a ripoff game of one of the most influential artists ever born and update it to HD for a system overhaul, you'd assume a company like Rockstar would be at the ready for something like this, but no. Jesus, even the f*cken' PS2 version has better framerates than the Vita. Well not really because Michael Jackson The Experience HD is an actual launch title for the Vita that was developed by a team at Ubisoft for the Vita. Whereas VCS is just a game made for the PSP that is running by emulation on the PSVita, Rockstar haven't done or had any part to play here it's just the same game that's been on the store for ages. Well said. That wasn't even close to a fair comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunrise Driver Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 MJ HD Vita looks like port from PS3 so it's definitely not PSP version remastered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Effy in Chains Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 I gotta say, I'm pretty disappointed with VCS's performance on the Vita. From loading screens to slowdowns experienced from the PSP (Vice Point Mall, Phil Collin's cutscene entry), the game's framerate on Vita performs identically to its inferior counterpart. I suppose it's all in the way the game was put together and what limits there were at the time, but come on! But it's still overall a great experience, right? I didn't expect it to be any different from the PSP version... but i've only played that for a few minutes once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 I wouldn't even assume R* made any Vita games w/o promotion, bottom line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzbegone Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Well not really because Michael Jackson The Experience HD is an actual launch title for the Vita that was developed by a team at Ubisoft for the Vita. Whereas VCS is just a game made for the PSP that is running by emulation on the PSVita, Rockstar haven't done or had any part to play here it's just the same game that's been on the store for ages. Yes, I know that. I meant I'm disappointed that Rockstar didn't have any part in it. Especially since the GTA series is one of the best selling on the PSP. I gotta say, I'm pretty disappointed with VCS's performance on the Vita. From loading screens to slowdowns experienced from the PSP (Vice Point Mall, Phil Collin's cutscene entry), the game's framerate on Vita performs identically to its inferior counterpart. I suppose it's all in the way the game was put together and what limits there were at the time, but come on! But it's still overall a great experience, right? I didn't expect it to be any different from the PSP version... but i've only played that for a few minutes once. It is a great experience but I expected so much more in terms of framerate after listening to these 'Vita hardware upgrades'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*MURDOC* Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 I'm sure that games which were actually made for the system perform a lot better than games made for entirely different hardware running by way of emulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccrogers15 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Before i think of getting a vita, they better think of adding more support. The system is perfectly capable of running PSone classics, PS2 classics. So why cant it? Its more powerful then the PS1 and PS2, why cant it run them? IGN said the same thing before launch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unopescio Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 because its not as simple as all that? Without the same hardware as the ps2 the psv would have to run it all through software. Its possible to do but requires a lot of hard work and stability would always be an issue. Maybe theyre working on it in private, the console only just came out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*MURDOC* Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Exactly. It's a lot more than just "it has the power". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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