The Next Grand Theft Auto - Story and Discussion

[NicemanCandy]

The future of Grand Theft Auto

 

Just to get one thing straight, even though I may be wrong, I think that if a Grand Theft Auto sequel is to be released on the current generation of gaming, it won't be named Grand Theft Auto V. My theory is that as Grand Theft Auto III represents the generation of the PlayStation 2 era, it had two sequels which weren't tagged with Roman numerals and instead with their own sub-title, until the release of Grand Theft Auto IV, which marked the transition from the previous generation to the current generation. I would go into more depth but I think I've covered my opinion and I'm sure you guys understand the point in which I have brought up.

 

Story

All I have been reading are stories which involve a good guy becoming involved in some seriously bad sh*t, eventually becoming a feared and powerful individual. I don't want to play as a lawyer or an ice-cream salesman who meets a Mafia captain and soon after becomes the boss. I would like the protagonist to be someone already involved in a lifestyle of crime, possibly an associate or a soldier of a crime family which is crumbling in the midst of a major FBI sting operation or a gang war in which they are losing to a rival family. I'm sure you've read something like this before but if it has potential then I would be happy to type up a synopsis of the plot if you guys request it.

 

Ideas

I've read some pretty good ideas but people seem to be ignoring the fact that the technology isn't exactly where we all want it to be, so the majority of threads and posts I've read have a number of ideas in relation to something you would find in The Sims. I don't want to choose the height, weight or eye colour of the protagonist or even create a character for that matter. Another issue which keeps floating around is the ability to travel back to Vice City and San Andreas. If I wanted to play those games I would bust out the PlayStation 2. If anything, I would like for Rockstar to re-create Vice City and San Andreas like how they did with Liberty City, but I don't want to be able to travel to all of them or have all their maps connected somehow. If their intentions isn't to re-create their previous locations from entries within the series (Vice City and San Andreas), it would be fresh and exciting to see a new location to explore.

 

[Silentype]

Story

All I have been reading are stories which involve a good guy becoming involved in some seriously bad sh*t, eventually becoming a feared and powerful individual. I don't want to play as a lawyer or an ice-cream salesman who meets a Mafia captain and soon after becomes the boss. I would like the protagonist to be someone alr

I totally agree, and on top of that,(in my opinion) none of the "protagonists" - Tommy V had criminal aspirations and/or ambitions. On another note, I'd personally like to see an irish or russian mob story based in a r* version of boston and rhode island or even philly.

[NicemanCandy]

I like the Irish mob idea, but compared to the Italian Mafia they're not exactly as powerful, but I guess their equally feared. I think the location should be allot different from Liberty City by having less focus on heavily built up cities. San Andreas had variety in its landscapes and Vice City was only a portion of Rockstar's vision of a Miami 'clone' in a Grand Theft Auto title. If it were to be set in a re-envisioned Vice City, which seems to be the formula in which Rockstar is following, then I would like to see an Italian crime family at war with a rival family from Liberty City or San Andreas. The twist would be that the family in which you are a soldier of is falling to pieces. FBI is continuously making progress to close in and seize assets, associates are making themselves distant, and the rival family is preparing to take over.

Edited January 12, 2011 by NicemanCandy

[Silentype]

I like the Irish mob idea, but compared to the Italian Mafia they're not exactly as powerful, but I guess their equally feared. I think the location should be allot different from Liberty City by having less focus on heavily built up cities. San Andreas had variety in its landscapes and Vice City was only a portion of Rockstar's vision of a Miami 'clone' in a Grand Theft Auto title. If it were to be set in a re-envisioned Vice City, which seems to be the formula in which Rockstar is following, then I would like to see an Italian crime family at war with a rival family from Liberty City or San Andreas. The twist would be that the family in which you are a soldier of is falling to pieces. FBI is continuously making progress to close in and seize assets, associates are making themselves distant, and the rival family is preparing to take over.

Boston would work for an Irish story especially if they set it in an earlier time period,(70's-early 90's)considering the fact Boston was irish criminals last stronghold, but italians would work just as well if you ask me, as long as the protag is involved in a criminal organization,(that fits their ethnicity) with multiple illegal interest and r* implements a "realistic" in depth feature(or features) that make the player feel as if their "actions" are causing them to rise in rank and also give a feeling of the increased privileges, money, power etc. that come with said "rises in rank."

 

As for a san andreas or vice city setting they would work, but to me they're not as interesting as a setting for a game involving organized criminal groups(such as the italian,irish,russian mafia. although in real life some of them are there, l.a./sanandreas and vc/mia aren't particularly known as prevalent places for these groups.- russians.) Btw I like your idea of being part of weakening criminal group.

[AceRay]

considering the protagonists R* have been turning out (Niko, Marston etc), I think its safe to say we'll be seeing more of the likes of them.

[NicemanCandy]

I'm quite tired of playing as a guy from the very bottom working his way up. I want someone who's nearly there and has everything ripped away from him. Silentype, I like how you want the protagonist to actually consider his actions and to realize what certain choices would lead to in terms of money and power etc. As for having the next title set outside of the modern era, I just don't think it would work that well, we already have Mafia 2 and L.A Noire (nearly) to suit such needs. The reason why it wouldn't work, in my opinion, is that the privileges of internet and mobile phone functionality, amongst other things, would seem absent in comparison to Grand Theft Auto IV. By the way, is there really allot of Russian, Polish, Balkan immigrants in New York and New Jersey? I've never been, but if not, I don't see why an Italian crime family wouldn't go down well in Vice City (Miami). I do agree that there needs to be more depth in gameplay/character development though!

[SirPsychoSexy]

Yes, a lot of us think so. But great for you that you figured it out yourself.

 

Well, all protagonists of the main games have been crooks from the beginning - Claude, Tommy, CJ and Niko were all involved with crime, but they were new(ish) to the settings.

Johnny was a good example of what your looking for, though he was a bit small time I guess.

 

I don't think most people want the old versions of VC and San An but renditions.

 

This has all been said before, but welcome, you seem like you might contribute to the forums in the future.

[Finn 7 five 11]

I agree with everything said above so no point repeating it.

 

One thing i want in storyline as most have said is variety in missions, i have been playing the older gta's and the missions there had loads of variety, i want rockstar to be able to do that with tbe next gta.

I would like to be working my way up to the top or back to the top like one of you said, i want to feel like i have worked for something, i have the feeling in IV (even though im glad they changed pace a little) that you don't get anywhere, your still some scumbag criminal.

A lot of things that do seem sims-ish really do make sense to have in gta though.

[NicemanCandy]

I actually find it really irritating when I see numerous posts about wanting "the original maps" of Vice City and San Andreas to return. I would love to see next-generation renditions and as it stands, I hope I'm right about Rockstar following this formula. Thanks for the welcome by the way!

Edited January 12, 2011 by NicemanCandy

[jnzooger]

The future of Grand Theft Auto

 

Just to get one thing straight, even though I may be wrong, I think that if a Grand Theft Auto sequel is to be released on the current generation of gaming, it won't be named Grand Theft Auto V. My theory is that as Grand Theft Auto III represents the generation of the PlayStation 2 era, it had two sequels which weren't tagged with Roman numerals and instead with their own sub-title, until the release of Grand Theft Auto IV, which marked the transition from the previous generation to the current generation. I would go into more depth but I think I've covered my opinion and I'm sure you guys understand the point in which I have brought up.

Just to rebut this, there have already been 4 games in the IV era. And it is entirely possible for there to be another one-off game era for GTA V like there was for GTA2 on the same generation of consoles.

 

Nothing wrong with your ideas though.

[NicemanCandy]

Yeah I guess you're right. Finn4life, I can't help but feel as though in Grand Theft Auto IV you were always working for money even though you clearly had enough of it. In Vice City, there was a foundation, you were robbed of your boss's money and you had to work with allot of criminals to get that money back, but instead you chose the power and decided to become somewhat of a rival to your so called boss and in the end you reached the top, end of story. I think that Rockstar needs to implement a plot for the next title in relation to actually achieving something, not just dirty work twenty-four seven.

 

Also, I hope that Rockstar includes Lynyrd Skynyrd - That Smell into the soundtrack. I have an urge to bust into a crack den with my SMG, shooting up all those addicts to the psychedelic vibe of that tune.

Edited January 12, 2011 by NicemanCandy

[Silentype]

I'm quite tired of playing as a guy from the very bottom working his way up. I want someone who's nearly there and has everything ripped away from him. Silentype, I like how you want the protagonist to actually consider his actions and to realize what certain choices would lead to in terms of money and power etc. As for having the next title set outside of the modern era, I just don't think it would work that well, we already have Mafia 2 and L.A Noire (nearly) to suit such needs. The reason why it wouldn't work, in my opinion, is that the privileges of internet and mobile phone functionality, amongst other things, would seem absent in comparison to Grand Theft Auto IV. By the way, is there really allot of Russian, Polish, Balkan immigrants in New York and New Jersey? I've never been, but if not, I don't see why an Italian crime family wouldn't go down well in Vice City (Miami). I do agree that there needs to be more depth in gameplay/character development though!

Brighton beach in new york is a russian/eastern european section of new york.(but of course the only ethnicity in brighton beach but are numerous.) As for a current setting I agree with you, but at the same time crime/organized crime nowadays isn't as strong, brazen, influential as it used to be.(for example when was the last mob war in america, had to be the 90's in philly.)

[Silentype]

I'm quite tired of playing as a guy from the very bottom working his way up. I want someone who's nearly there and has everything ripped away from him. Silentype, I like how you want the protagonist to actually consider his actions and to realize what certain choices would lead to in terms of money and power etc. As for having the next title set outside of the modern era, I just don't think it would work that well, we already have Mafia 2 and L.A Noire (nearly) to suit such needs. The reason why it wouldn't work, in my opinion, is that the privileges of internet and mobile phone functionality, amongst other things, would seem absent in comparison to Grand Theft Auto IV. By the way, is there really allot of Russian, Polish, Balkan immigrants in New York and New Jersey? I've never been, but if not, I don't see why an Italian crime family wouldn't go down well in Vice City (Miami). I do agree that there needs to be more depth in gameplay/character development though!

Btw, I wasn't saying italians wouldn't work in vc/mia I was just saying they're not as strong or as known for being in vc/mia,(to the general public) as opposed to their presence in the northeastern and midwestern u.s.( As far as I know, Santo trafficante Jr. is/was the most widely known mafioso in Fla., Tampa I think as opposed to x, y,z, mobsters widely known from ny, chi, boston etc.)

[DustyRider]

well my guess the next gta will be a gta IV era game, probably new redesigned (Miami look-a-like) VC, as the story goes... well it's just my opinion but they could do a story of some cuban, but not an immigrant cuz we had an immigrant in IV, and it would resemble scarface 2 much, idk who know leave it to R*