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Hello,

 

So i was wondering, what would you guys think if the public transport that was in IV like taxi's and the subway and possibly buses were to be active and usable for online game modes for the next GTA?

 

Would it be useful in your opinion or would it be better to keep it in Single player?

@Everyone: This is not a request or a wish, I just would like to get opinions from others is all smile.gif

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GTAWithStyle

Well if someone got into a cab I would rip him back out and shoot him in the face. If someone caught a train I would follow that train and and blow his head off when he got off at his station. I don't really see public transport in MP but it could happen.

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Finn 7 five 11

It would be a cool addition, even if you could follow them they could bail out at any time if they realised they were being tailed and rip your sh*t up, that would make tailing a fun exercise.

You shouldn't be allowed to skip trip though.

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IV's public transport was good. It lacked buses, and i really wanted to see the limo taxi feature - those should be added.

 

With buses you should see peds get on and off like the train,

And with the train they should do it like Red Dead Redemption did - have you inside the carriage, free to move around and sit. While sitting you could then press select/Back to change camera - i always use the phone's camera to see inside the train - you should be able to do that in the train/bus without the camera...

 

MP could be interesting, One team of people board a train/bus, and another team chases and tries to destroy them...

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NotoriousKiller

It would be cool to have in free mode. Imagine going on the subway and then when you come out a bunch of guys are aiming at you.

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Snake Without a Tongue

I really missed the train in RDR freemode. I don't understand why stuff like that is removed from MP.

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I really missed the train in RDR freemode. I don't understand why stuff like that is removed from MP.

Yes, I mean complaints against it doesn't matter anyway. You aren't forced to get into it. If you die from it then it's your fault. Just accept the game and move on. You'll eventually find strategic ways to use the metros and stuff.

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I don't see any problem with having public transport + taxis fully operational in multiplayer.

 

Of course in the trains, it'd be pointless if you can't freely roam from car to car. I'm sure R* will fix that though. It'd be awesome to ride the train around town and rain down lead/RPGs upon the land dwellers!

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if u were in a bus or train u should get the option to move around in it instead of just being in a fixed spot

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If you think about this in a scale of would it increase sales yes but not by much, however fighting with your friends on top of trains or fighting the lcpd while firing at their chopper from the train while your freinds drive/shoot would be amazing. It also brings up the point of train robbing which would be a very cool feature if done right. On the other side you have to wonder if it is possible using the current genaration of hardware which is most likely choice considering the fact that neither IV or RDR were able to utilize this feature in MP.

 

So my conclusion is this

 

Would it be good: Yes it might even be amazing if done right and would certainly add a few more hours of gameplay and it would sweeten the deal for me.

 

Is it likely: No Especially if it takes up alot of power or simiply cannot be handled on todays hardware.

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If you think about this in a scale of would it increase sales yes but not by much, however fighting with your friends on top of trains or fighting the lcpd while firing at their chopper from the train while your freinds drive/shoot would be amazing. It also brings up the point of train robbing which would be a very cool feature if done right. On the other side you have to wonder if it is possible using the current genaration of hardware which is most likely choice considering the fact that neither IV or RDR were able to utilize this feature in MP.

 

So my conclusion is this

 

Would it be good: Yes it might even be amazing if done right and would certainly add a few more hours of gameplay and it would sweeten the deal for me.

 

Is it likely: No Especially if it takes up alot of power or simiply cannot be handled on todays hardware.

It's just getting into trains and the like, I don't see how that could take up much power at all.

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If you think about this in a scale of would it increase sales yes but not by much, however fighting with your friends on top of trains or fighting the lcpd while firing at their chopper from the train while your freinds drive/shoot would be amazing. It also brings up the point of train robbing which would be a very cool feature if done right. On the other side you have to wonder if it is possible using the current genaration of hardware which is most likely choice considering the fact that neither IV or RDR were able to utilize this feature in MP.

 

So my conclusion is this

 

Would it be good: Yes it might even be amazing if done right and would certainly add a few more hours of gameplay and it would sweeten the deal for me.

 

Is it likely: No Especially if it takes up alot of power or simiply cannot be handled on todays hardware.

It's just getting into trains and the like, I don't see how that could take up much power at all.

I'm might be wrong but i seem to remember in the early days of the RDR forums many people complained about the absence of trains in multiplayer, to which rockstar later replied "It was not/is not possible to do with the engine restrictions/current hardware at this time" I think it went a little something like that maybe if you do some research you might find that reply somewere on the RDR forums?

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I like the Idea. Besides me and some of my PSN friends use to have our own "Jobs" haha. Like I'll be driving the bus and at the Laundromat.

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I like what i am hearing from all of you.

To me it sounds like this feature is a bit of a 'wanted' one if that according to the opinions i have read from you guys.

 

But i do have to agree with Lightning Strike at the same time when he states that it might not be possible because of the limitations like in Red Dead Redemption (RDR) as he quoted Rockstar Games.

 

Also, i would like to add but i don't know if anyone else here has noticed that in every GTA game (RDR included, no i am not saying it is GTA but it is similar) since trains have been introduced, they have all been indestructible?

I know that granted in San Andreas the trains could derail, but again they were indestructible and would never take damage no matter what you parked in there way or shot at them with.

 

But who knows, we can only wait and see after all.

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Finn 7 five 11

 

Is it likely: No Especially if it takes up alot of power or simiply cannot be handled on todays hardware.

 

What you just said is 100% wrong, it is LIKELY, Multiplayer is always improving online and this is another simple addition.

What do you mean if it takes up a lot of power? Your console or PC will be using the same amount of power anyway how big the game is does not affect how much power the console/pc uses, how fast the disc spins determines that.

Cabs and trains work in normal off line gameplay right? Then why the hell would a console or PC ESPECIALLY have any problem at all handling it in multi-player as opposed to normal play off line.

HAving an automated cab or an extra vehicle to drive (train) is not going to slow down the game at all.

 

Another person talking out their ass about something they know nothing about.

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Yep. Throwing grenades out of a bus window? Shooting out of train doors? Shooting the enemy's cab driver and watch them try and get out in time? That would be one of the best things I had seen in multiplayer. Add in the ability to derail the trains and it's double the fun!

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Yep. Throwing grenades out of a bus window? Shooting out of train doors? Shooting the enemy's cab driver and watch them try and get out in time? That would be one of the best things I had seen in multiplayer. Add in the ability to derail the trains and it's double the fun!

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I can see it now...

 

coolguy77: hurrr i have train

coolguy77: lol u cant kill me

themaster: *pulls out rpg* i can't?

coolguy77: nop

coolguy77: WTF

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Is it likely: No Especially if it takes up alot of power or simiply cannot be handled on todays hardware.

 

What you just said is 100% wrong, it is LIKELY, Multiplayer is always improving online and this is another simple addition.

What do you mean if it takes up a lot of power? Your console or PC will be using the same amount of power anyway how big the game is does not affect how much power the console/pc uses, how fast the disc spins determines that.

Cabs and trains work in normal off line gameplay right? Then why the hell would a console or PC ESPECIALLY have any problem at all handling it in multi-player as opposed to normal play off line.

HAving an automated cab or an extra vehicle to drive (train) is not going to slow down the game at all.

 

Another person talking out their ass about something they know nothing about.

I have stated before that R* said clearly that it was not possible due to limitations that was the response they gave. I'm sure if you do some digging around you might find the exact quote.

 

Your the guy that talks out his ass good sir, since you would debate what the company actualy stated as possible with the hardware they were given and the time they had to work with it.

 

It's also the reason they took the lasso of RDR FM it was to much for the game to handle again rockstars words not mine.

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Finn 7 five 11

 

I have stated before that R* said clearly that it was not possible due to limitations that was the response they gave. I'm sure if you do some digging around you might find the exact quote.

 

Come on thats just a lazy ass excuse, like i said running one more vehicle isn't gonna bring down the server they could have taken another vehicle out if this even was the case.

I wouldn't believe every word out of their mouth, look at how late thier releases usually are.

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I have stated before that R* said clearly that it was not possible due to limitations that was the response they gave. I'm sure if you do some digging around you might find the exact quote.

 

Come on thats just a lazy ass excuse, like i said running one more vehicle isn't gonna bring down the server they could have taken another vehicle out if this even was the case.

I wouldn't believe every word out of their mouth, look at how late thier releases usually are.

No but one more vehicle with 16 more players to support certainly is alot harder to make my friend. Think of it like this they would have to programm it 16 people could use walk around sit down and such on something that complex.With all the features you want added on ontop of that it would take up alot of space that don't have time or free space to use. I would also point to the fact that who would choose the destination of taxis cabs all the power that would be used is quite great. + all the players were/are scattered all over the map the game would have to genrate 16 times what it normaly has to genrate. Seem alot now ?

 

 

 

And also do you know anything about to how to program a train for a server like IV or RDR? If not then saying that it's just a half assed excuse realy does not defend your point.

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I like these ideas too smile.gif

I was thinking that if the physics for the next GTA title were produced good enough and if possible, i was thinking that imagine being in Multiplayer and you see a train (not subway, but a proper train) driving to the next station but the next station was about 30 seconds away.

 

You and your buddies are in a helicopter and the pilot flies above the train just right so that the other players can jump out and onto the roof of the train carriages and then once that has been accomplished, the pilot flies away and the players on the train make their way to the front of it and one of them steals it.

 

Unfortunately i don't see that happening for a while, or at all even.

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you should be able to call for mavericks or taxis. would help eliminate some of the constant pointless killing in fm.

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Finn 7 five 11

 

No but one more vehicle with 16 more players to support certainly is alot harder to make my friend. Think of it like this they would have to programm it 16 people could use walk around sit down and such on something that complex.With all the features you want added on ontop of that it would take up alot of space that don't have time or free space to use. I would also point to the fact that who would choose the destination of taxis cabs all the power that would be used is quite great. + all the players were/are scattered all over the map the game would have to genrate 16 times what it normaly has to genrate. Seem alot now ?

 

But not all 16 people are going to use taxi's at the same time, 16 players could put a little stress on ram...ehe but i think they would still be able to squeeze it in provided some cutbacks.

I still think that trains would be able to be put in pretty easily, i was wondering is it the servers or the console which is too limited for these additions, i would think it just the console.

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i was wondering is it the servers or the console which is too limited for these additions

Definitely the console. Servers are fine. It's a bit sad that in multi-platform games the consoles always have to ruin it for the PC users (usually). Anyways, 16 people could be capable provided it would be take some time figuring it out but this is Rockstar we're talking about so it shouldn't be too hard.

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Is it likely: No Especially if it takes up alot of power or simiply cannot be handled on todays hardware.

Don't talk out of your arse. confused.gif

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Is it likely: No Especially if it takes up alot of power or simiply cannot be handled on todays hardware.

Don't talk out of your arse. confused.gif

I'm not R* SAID THAT IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE. They never gave a explanation it was just impossible to do according to R*. Sir would be smart not to talk out of his arse.

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The trains need to be drivable, be able to walk on top and in the train, move from one car to another, NEEDS TO BE A TRAIN HORN!!!! Train Crew Uniform, maybe a way to lock the doors on all the cars or just the lead car by pressing a button, to keep little fags from trying to get on just to kill you. maybe block signals, have the train at ground level at some points with railroad crossings. might think of more stuff.

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IV's public transport was good. It lacked buses, and i really wanted to see the limo taxi feature - those should be added.

 

With buses you should see peds get on and off like the train,

And with the train they should do it like Red Dead Redemption did - have you inside the carriage, free to move around and sit. While sitting you could then press select /Back to change camera - i always use the phone's camera to see inside the train - you should be able to do that in the train/bus without the camera...

 

MP could be interesting, One team of people board a train/bus, and another team chases and tries to destroy them...

Bus hijack, drive to populated area, explode.

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Whoa hey guys, bumping a 6 month old topic.

Nice to see that this topic still carries interest.

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