Asian country in GTA V

January 5, 2011

I heard I rumor wayback 2004 or 05 before PS3 consoles release that the next GTA will be set in china. The article said that the game will be photo realistic and improved physics and will include bicycle. I don't know if any of you heard that rumor. I just forgat the site where I see that. My question is, is it possible that GTA 5 will set on asian country?

These are the lists of asian country I'd like to see in GTA 5

1. Japan - this is good settings for GTA V. Yakuza gangs are in this country right?

2. Hong kong - This also a good city for for GTA 5. Triads also in this country.

3. BangKok, Thailand - The city is corrupt and there many illegal doings in this country. Pirated movies and games are made in this city.

4. Manila, philippines - My favorite country, all kinds of crimes are all in this city. Drugs, crook Cops, corrupt politician, Unstoppable Killings, massacre, Hold up, Extorsions, prostitutions, Gang Wars, political and journalist killings and many more. Any Crime u can imagine is in this country just name it. For me Personally this would be the best perfect settings in GTAV in Asia. Remember the Bus Hostage taking of the hong kong tourists? That happens in manila at the grand stand near at Luneta Park. Where 12 of the tourists was killed.

Edited January 5, 2011 by gta_fan28

January 5, 2011

Mod can u plz move this on GTAV? Topics? Sorry if I made this here.

January 7, 2011

Moved to GTAV?.

January 7, 2011

It's never going to happen, GTA is based on American culture.

January 7, 2011

NO

I personally do not want to see a GTA game that is set outside of the USA. I would much rather GTA games always use American cities as their location settings, they always tend to have rich variety of different gangs and criminal groups, just the essence of a GTA storyline. So my answer to your questions effectively means that I am saying no to all of them. I just feel that American cities are best suited as locations for GTA games over any other kind of city. I certainly would like to continue to see Asian gangs like the Triads play a role in future GTA games, but set within the USA. I also cannot see GTA being set outside of the USA, to be replaced by Asia or anywhere else for that matter. It is clearly based on American culture as someone has already mentioned. Your numbered reasons for an Asian setting for future GTA games, while brimming with enthusiasm, just have no very strong basis for validity.

1. Japan does have its own well-known organized crime group called the Yakuza, but that still does not automatically make it a special case. But guess what ? A Yakuza, GTA-style game already exists, and guess what again ? Its called "Yakuza" !! There are already 3 games in the series and the 3rd was released on the PS3 just only last year. Plus, hardly any other crime groups operate in Japan other than its own native Yakuza. So Japan clearly has no real need to be used. No need, NO.

2. Hong Kong - I'll give you quite a similar response to what I gave to your Japan suggestion. Ok it has Triads, but so what ? What other gangs or mafias figure prominently in the Hong Kong underworld, apart from the Triads ? Hardly any, if any at all. I feel that a GTA game always featuring same crime group or gang in its storyline will either get boring fast, or suffer from a severe lack of variety and it would feel a bit repetitive and monotonous. A seperate game for Honk Kong gangs in the style of GTA would fine (thats already been done once this console generation), but for GTA ? Sorry, NO.

3. Bangkok - Sounds a bit interesting as you can include the whole kickboxing and illegal gambling scene out there, and I know it has a big underworld. Maybe an Ong Bak-style crime game, how brilliant ! A seperate game to incorporate all this in the style of GTA would be cool. But in plain words, for a GTA game itself ? Just NO. It simply would not work as a GTA game and be successful. Not enough people are familar with Bangkok, its culture and underworld for anyone to pay any real attention to a GTA game set there. Pirated games and movies made in Bangkok is also one of your reasons? Is that a joke ? Afghanistan produces almost half the world's heroin, so do you wanna see GTA set in there ? I'm pretty sure that you don't. Again, NO.

4. Manila, Philippines. Ok there is all this real bad and crazy stuff that happens out there, and you get lots of corruption, political instability, killings, violence, crime, gangs - the place is damn near in a state of anarchy. But guess what ? About a million other places in the world also have these things going on everyday. Cities in Mexico, Rio De Janeiro in Brazil, Bahgdad in Iraq, Kabul in Afghanistan, El Salavador, various African countries and many more places all have these things happening there everyday. You said something about a big crime moment in Manila when 12 tourists got killed, but I just don't see that as a special reason either. Tourists get killed in South Africa all the time, the country is notorious for that. What makes Manila or the Philippines so special that it should be chosen over those other places for a GTA game ? I cannot see anything special there. And again, the fans of GTA for most part will not want to see it take place there, Manila as a city does not have that kind of international standing or reputation for the role. So, therefore again, NO.

I'm sorry but I totally disagree with your ideas, and I've given my reasons, which I believe I've explained clearly.

Edited January 7, 2011 by Official General

January 7, 2011

I disagree.

Two games have already been set outside america(both in London)

Most protagonist who are from America are of some italian or african descent so thats makes them half american. Toni Ciprioni is in the Leone family who are an Italian American Mafia criminal organization therefore that is based on Italian Culture.

The same can be said for Niko, Luis, CJ and Huang lee who are based on different cultures.

Gta is not just based off american culture but cultures from around the world even though it is often set in America.

January 7, 2011

I disagree.

Two games have already been set outside america(both in London)

Most protagonist who are from America are of some italian or african descent so thats makes them half american. Toni Ciprioni is in the Leone family who are an Italian American Mafia criminal organization therefore that is based on Italian Culture.

The same can be said for Niko, Luis, CJ and Huang lee who are based on different cultures.

Gta is not just based off american culture but cultures from around the world even though it is often set in America.

This. Ignorant people who know nothing about GTA history should shut their mouths. However, I would HATE to play the game set in an Asian country. I'd like to see Japan, but not really at the same time. I'd much rather see London make a return. The only actual named city ever in GTA.

January 7, 2011

As much as I'd love to see GTA set in Tokyo, I'm not sure that R* would be able to do the city justice. Most of the advertising and signage would have to be written in Japanese (which I'm sure at least 85% of the players don't understand) otherwise the location won't feel authentic.

January 7, 2011

I disagree.

Two games have already been set outside america(both in London)

Most protagonist who are from America are of some italian or african descent so thats makes them half american. Toni Ciprioni is in the Leone family who are an Italian American Mafia criminal organization therefore that is based on Italian Culture.

The same can be said for Niko, Luis, CJ and Huang lee who are based on different cultures.

Gta is not just based off american culture but cultures from around the world even though it is often set in America.

Yep, people seem to forget about this:

I understand most of you started playing with GTA III but goddamn it learn about the history of the series. Not only have we had two cities outiside of US now, London & Manchester, but we are due for a 3D remake of London.

January 7, 2011

NO

I personally do not want to see a GTA game that is set outside of the USA. I would much rather GTA games always use American cities as their location settings, they always tend to have rich variety of different gangs and criminal groups, just the essence of a GTA storyline. So my answer to your questions effectively means that I am saying no to all of them. I just feel that American cities are best suited as locations for GTA games over any other kind of city. I certainly would like to continue to see Asian gangs like the Triads play a role in future GTA games, but set within the USA. I also cannot see GTA being set outside of the USA, to be replaced by Asia or anywhere else for that matter. It is clearly based on American culture as someone has already mentioned. Your numbered reasons for an Asian setting for future GTA games, while brimming with enthusiasm, just have no very strong basis for validity.

1. Japan does have its own well-known organized crime group called the Yakuza, but that still does not automatically make it a special case. But guess what ? A Yakuza, GTA-style game already exists, and guess what again ? Its called "Yakuza" !! There are already 3 games in the series and the 3rd was released on the PS3 just only last year. Plus, hardly any other crime groups operate in Japan other than its own native Yakuza. So Japan clearly has no real need to be used. No need, NO.

2. Hong Kong - I'll give you quite a similar response to what I gave to your Japan suggestion. Ok it has Triads, but so what ? What other gangs or mafias figure prominently in the Hong Kong underworld, apart from the Triads ? Hardly any, if any at all. I feel that a GTA game always featuring same crime group or gang in its storyline will either get boring fast, or suffer from a severe lack of variety and it would feel a bit repetitive and monotonous. A seperate game for Honk Kong gangs in the style of GTA would fine (thats already been done once this console generation), but for GTA ? Sorry, NO.

3. Bangkok - Sounds a bit interesting as you can include the whole kickboxing and illegal gambling scene out there, and I know it has a big underworld. Maybe an Ong Bak-style crime game, how brilliant ! A seperate game to incorporate all this in the style of GTA would be cool. But in plain words, for a GTA game itself ? Just NO. It simply would not work as a GTA game and be successful. Not enough people are familar with Bangkok, its culture and underworld for anyone to pay any real attention to a GTA game set there. Pirated games and movies made in Bangkok is also one of your reasons? Is that a joke ? Afghanistan produces almost half the world's heroin, so do you wanna see GTA set in there ? I'm pretty sure that you don't. Again, NO.

4. Manila, Philippines. Ok there is all this real bad and crazy stuff that happens out there, and you get lots of corruption, political instability, killings, violence, crime, gangs - the place is damn near in a state of anarchy. But guess what ? About a million other places in the world also have these things going on everyday. Cities in Mexico, Rio De Janeiro in Brazil, Bahgdad in Iraq, Kabul in Afghanistan, El Salavador, various African countries and many more places all have these things happening there everyday. Tourists get killed in South Africa all the time, the country is notorious for that. What makes Manila or the Philippines so special that it should be chosen over those other places for a GTA game ? I cannot see anything special there. And again, the fans of GTA for most part will not want to see it take place there, Manila as a city does not have that kinding of international standing or reputation for the role. So, therefore again, NO.

I'm sorry but I totally disagree with your ideas, and I've given my reasons, which I believe I've explained clearly.

Finally someone with some sense

January 7, 2011

Yep, people seem to forget about this:

I understand most of you started playing with GTA III but goddamn it learn about the history of the series. Not only have we had two cities outiside of US now, London & Manchester, but we are due for a 3D remake of London.

We did have a remake of London. It was called the Getaway and had a solid story but was extremely poor in law enforcement and gangs. Only the USA works. Oh and the guy who said its based on Italian culture, its based on Italian American culture. Huge difference there mate

January 7, 2011

I disagree.

Two games have already been set outside america(both in London)

Most protagonist who are from America are of some italian or african descent so thats makes them half american. Toni Ciprioni is in the Leone family who are an Italian American Mafia criminal organization therefore that is based on Italian Culture.

The same can be said for Niko, Luis, CJ and Huang lee who are based on different cultures.

Gta is not just based off american culture but cultures from around the world even though it is often set in America.

I hear what you are saying Conal, and while you are right to some extent, you seem to be a little misguided in your comment.

I think most people with a half a brain know that American culture for most part has roots outside of America itself. The USA as it stands today in reality is a nation of people descended from immigrants, it was originally started and built by immigrants and still continues to be a major destination for immigrants.

Italian-American culture may have roots in Italy, but is not the same or identical to Italian culture from Italy.

Irish-American culture may have roots in Ireland, but is not the same or identical to Italian culture from Ireland.

African-American culture may have roots in West Africa, but is not the same or identical to African culture from West Africa.

The same goes for the rest. I think I've made my point. The bottom line, regardless of their external roots, these cultures are still identified as American and being created within America itself, because that is what it is. Therefore they are still essentially classed as being American, whichever way you look at it.

January 7, 2011

I agree and disagree, a GTA could techniaclly work outside of the US, but in could only be in an English speaking country like England, Ireland, Australia, or New Zealand.

January 7, 2011

I disagree.

Two games have already been set outside america(both in London)

Most protagonist who are from America are of some italian or african descent so thats makes them half american. Toni Ciprioni is in the Leone family who are an Italian American Mafia criminal organization therefore that is based on Italian Culture.

The same can be said for Niko, Luis, CJ and Huang lee who are based on different cultures.

Gta is not just based off american culture but cultures from around the world even though it is often set in America.

Dude, no.

Just because CJ is black or Tommy/Toni is Italian, that doesn't make them foreign. Italians, blacks, Hispanics, etc. have been part of American culture for so long, they're in no way foreign. Other than ancestry, an American born person who is Anglo Saxon white is no different from one who is.

And half descent? Not even close. Black folks have been in America since the 1500 or 1600's. Most European ethnic groups have been here since the early 1900's or earlier. Hispanics? I don't know, it depends. But that doesn't make them less American.

But like Britain or Canada, America is a melting pot. There is no "true American", no "official race", none of that sh*t. Case in point, it's not a different culture from another country. It's all the same. There's Irish people in America, too. Born and raised, just like everyone else. An Irish person, Latino, Italian, Indian, Asian, whatever; is just as American as anyone else. Half American my black ass.

Like another person said, Italian culture is not the same as Italian American.

And come on, London? It's the same damn difference. You could be an Irish person who's family has lived in London since the 1800's or so. Does that make you less British than the guy who's family's been there since the Dark Ages? He's still British in my book.

@the OP, I'm going to agree with Official General. Asia just doesn't seem to really be suitable for GTA. GTA is based on general Western culture. Western culture goes for America, Canada, and Britain. All the same sh*t. However, I still think (at least for now), that GTA belongs in America. And even if it goes to another country, it could only be Britain (and only London) or an America/Canada combo. Anything else just isn't GTA. However, there's nothing wrong with a separate series.

I don't think New Zealand or Australia would really work though.

January 7, 2011

The only Asian country that would really work for a GTA is Hong Kong, and that has more to do with the British occupation than anything else.

The city/country is divided into 3 administration districts already, and it has a strong Triad AND Yakuza presence. Also, nearly everyone in business speaks English, and most signs are bilingual.

January 7, 2011

I will agree that it's purely down to culture.

Apart from obvious problems such as langauge and music (no offense don't want to listen to entirly asian music)

Main problem is lack of relatabilty. I don't know much about asian countries. American culture is know and influential world wide. When the last presidental was taking place it got world coverage. I knew who was running, their policies, opinion poles and who won. Then in gtaIV they spoofed the election with the mayor campaign. I got the paridies and jokes. If this was in an asian country I'd be lost, as I would'nt get half the political jokes and satire.

Secondly Rockstar North are Scotish, so I'd be surprised if they would have the same knowledge of asian culture, politics etc than they would as america. The fact that they are Scotish is prob one of the main reasons the only other country gta was set was england , apart from the fact they are located there, is because britian is a well know and english speaking manner.

I hope I made my points clear.

January 7, 2011

The problem with China would be the current Communist regime in power. The only people allowed to own firearms and weapons in China are military personnel. So unless you want COD: GTA V China is out. The only place outside of the US that makes sense is Canada because their culture is similar to that of the US.

January 7, 2011

Dude, no.

Just because CJ is black or Tommy/Toni is Italian, that doesn't make them foreign. Italians, blacks, Hispanics, etc. have been part of American culture for so long, they're in no way foreign. Other than ancestry, an American born person who is Anglo Saxon white is no different from one who is.

And half descent? Not even close. Black folks have been in America since the 1500 or 1600's. Most European ethnic groups have been here since the early 1900's or earlier. Hispanics? I don't know, it depends. But that doesn't make them less American.

But like Britain or Canada, America is a melting pot. There is no "true American", no "official race", none of that sh*t. Case in point, it's not a different culture from another country. It's all the same. There's Irish people in America, too. Born and raised, just like everyone else. An Irish person, Latino, Italian, Indian, Asian, whatever; is just as American as anyone else. Half American my black ass.

Like another person said, Italian culture is not the same as Italian American.

And come on, London? It's the same damn difference. You could be an Irish person who's family has lived in London since the 1800's or so. Does that make you less British than the guy who's family's been there since the Dark Ages? He's still British in my book.

@the OP, I'm going to agree with Official General. Asia just doesn't seem to really be suitable for GTA. GTA is based on general Western culture. Western culture goes for America, Canada, and Britain. All the same sh*t. However, I still think (at least for now), that GTA belongs in America. And even if it goes to another country, it could only be Britain (and only London) or an America/Canada combo. Anything else just isn't GTA. However, there's nothing wrong with a separate series.

I don't think New Zealand or Australia would really work though.

Considering slavery didn't come about till late 1700's and 1800's I'm quite sure that "Black folks" as you put them haven't been in America that long

January 7, 2011