[WIP] IV:SA²

[hi999]

Please help me

[hi999]

Please help me

Use IV and NOT EFLC.

OK i thought it´s compatible with EFLC, too.

[EncryptedReality]

Despite that first beta had EFLC support , it wasn't our target entirely , we just "homeaged" ourselves to IV more because we started with it and expanded our research within it , and EFLC is not completely the same as some of you may think to mod.

 

However, if anybody volunteers to do it , be our guest

[EverLost123]

Beta testers are for only find bugs , they don't need to know anything , then , beta testers are not considered as developers.

 

If you are a developer , it means you are specialized in something , you search for bugs , find it then fix , the best is fixing the big ones , because then you dont get with many bugs to fix then you get motivated.

[EncryptedReality]

And why are you guys talking about beta testing already? If we need beta testers we will announce it here and you will know everything you need about it if/when the time comes.

[hi999]

Despite that first beta had EFLC support , it wasn't our target entirely , we just "homeaged" ourselves to IV more because we started with it and expanded our research within it , and EFLC is not completely the same as some of you may think to mod.

 

However, if anybody volunteers to do it , be our guest

OK thank you. I think i´m going to buy IV

[EverLost123]

Its because there is no thing to talk in this topic , so we talk about things that makes posts (or in Brazilian language, IBOPE.)

[The Rocker]

@EverLost123 - This is classed as spam. Don't do it.

[K^2]

Hm. I installed Beta1 over BoGT, and it runs just fine. But I can switch later on over to IV. This really should affect any of the flight code, though.

[Exxon]

I don't know if I'm allowed to say this as beta-tester, but there just happened a lot to the beta-testers Dropbox folder.

What's going on? Removing old files?

[Tomix23]

Good to see this project back and even better.

Are radio stations a external script or you managed to replace them?

[EverLost123]

I know what is spam guys , but sometimes its impossible.

 

Spam , the really spam is with no motive i come here and talk

 

HI GUYS , WHO WANNA SEE SOME BOOBS WITH ME AND ROMAN? HE LOVES BOWNLING!

 

but you talks something interesting and at least 10% with the topic itself there is no problem

[EverLost123]

 

-Bullsh*t-

You converted sounds before.

 

Would you like to convert CJ sounds ? Replace them with niko's

They are multichannel.

 

as i said before , can you explain to me how this external script works? i wanna test it to see what can i do

 

Just a question : it can ''replace'' all multichannels , or the radio is a miracle one?

 

i mean , if with this script i can use another sounds instead of the sad multichannel ones , its gonna be super amazing. i got many sounds in my list that now i can convert

[Den89]

 

-Bullsh*t-

You converted sounds before.

 

Would you like to convert CJ sounds ? Replace them with niko's

They are multichannel.

 

as i said before , can you explain to me how this external script works? i wanna test it to see what can i do

 

Just a question : it can ''replace'' all multichannels , or the radio is a miracle one?

 

i mean , if with this script i can use another sounds instead of the sad multichannel ones , its gonna be super amazing. i got many sounds in my list that now i can convert

.........It's just a separate script. It has nothing to do with simple gamemoding and you CAN'T convert sounds by this way. Got it?

Edited October 11, 2011 by Den89

[K^2]

 

K^2, do you have any preview for me ? (pm)

Let me try to fix the ailerons at least. For some reason, they aren't working, and I don't know if it's an issue with controls or aerodynamics computations. I also would like to add correction for angular velocity, because without it the simulation is incomplete at best.

 

You wouldn't happen to know if there is an API call to get angular velocity vector for a vehicle? There is one for the object, but I don't want to attach an object to vehicle just to get that. I'll probably just approximate it from other values if API isn't available.

 

Edit: What's the problem with multi-channel sounds again? Is it just a lack of converters? I've hacked sound files before, I guess I can take a look and see if I can figure out the file format.

[EncryptedReality]

Problem with multi-channel sounds is that there is no way to replace the existing multichannel sounds nor is there any way to make any ivaud of this type. I guess that's the biggest obstacle here

 

- About API, I myself would not know , and i don't think Blaster does either. We shall wait and see if someone else does...

[EverLost123]

 

Anyone have seen IVAud's owners? they say in next release will be multichannel support , but they never talk nothing about this.

 

Just a retard question : If we cant replace? can we at least add? i mean , instead of replacing the original files , we create a IVAud file with the songs , it makes sense , right?

[EncryptedReality]

Nope, we can't add. RPF 3.0 archive can't be edited with OpenIV and Spark only replaces files.

 

Audio must be in 3.0... game won't read it good in any other version

[jas0nuk]

Doesn't look like there is even a native for getting the angular velocity of a vehicle. You'd be better off approximating it by regularly polling the angles in 3 directions...

[FireproofFlare]

I have a... Crazy but... Well, let me ask

 

RMS/Blaster/Random:

 

I can't run GTA IV on my PC (Intel generic cards doesn't it ) but I can run 3DS 2011, and I have GTA:SA. So, if I download the required plugins, OpenIV (everything but GTA:IV) will I be able to help you?

 

I mean, at last, if I can open the mod's files, I could help you with traffic and/or collision files, which I know a little thing.

 

(Q.:Why crazy idea? D:

A.: Trying to help a mod for a game that you can't even run?)

[Den89]

-Bullsh*t-

You converted sounds before.

 

Would you like to convert CJ sounds ? Replace them with niko's

They are multichannel.

 

as i said before , can you explain to me how this external script works? i wanna test it to see what can i do

 

Just a question : it can ''replace'' all multichannels , or the radio is a miracle one?

 

i mean , if with this script i can use another sounds instead of the sad multichannel ones , its gonna be super amazing. i got many sounds in my list that now i can convert

.........It's just a separate script. It has nothing to do with simple gamemoding and you CAN'T convert sounds by this way. Got it?

U know we have our own script right, not RussianCJ's.

im sure it almost the same.

[EverLost123]

 

I have a... Crazy but... Well, let me ask

 

RMS/Blaster/Random:

 

I can't run GTA IV on my PC (Intel generic cards doesn't it ) but I can run 3DS 2011, and I have GTA:SA. So, if I download the required plugins, OpenIV (everything but GTA:IV) will I be able to help you?

 

I mean, at last, if I can open the mod's files, I could help you with traffic and/or collision files, which I know a little thing.

 

(Q.:Why crazy idea? D:

A.: Trying to help a mod for a game that you can't even run?)

 

cara , n tem lógica , se voce nem roda o jogo , pra que ficar arrumando cargo? é igual ter um carro sem pista.

Cara , sério , nem tenta , se quem já tem tudo não consegue entrar no mod , imagina quem mal roda o jogo , recomendo nem tentar. se voce pelo menos um fodão no assunto até teria uma chance, mas se mal roda o jogo e sabe pouco , recomendo nem tentar.

Edited October 11, 2011 by EverLost123

[XTREME0235]

Ever lost, stop spamming and speak in English.

This is an English forum, also if you have nothing significant to post then don't post at all.

 

You've spammed enough already in here.

[ShakingASS]

Let me input tired of people trying to get early test of mod.Please stop gets annoying i personally will report next posts i see.

[EverLost123]

Ever lost, stop spamming and speak in English.

This is an English forum, also if you have nothing significant to post then don't post at all.

 

You've spammed enough already in here.

I was explaining him that it is a bad idea. resuming : what blaster said , but in portuguese.

 

 

 

I just cant get it , im not disturbing anyone , if you are getting mad with my mode of talk , please , just ignore it.

[FireproofFlare]

Ever lost, stop spamming and speak in English.

This is an English forum, also if you have nothing significant to post then don't post at all.

 

You've spammed enough already in here.

I was explaining him that it is a bad idea. resuming : what blaster said , but in portuguese.

 

 

 

I just cant get it , im not disturbing anyone , if you are getting mad with my mode of talk , please , just ignore it.

No, you didn't

 

You said that I'm not a f*cking modder so I can't get in the team, and that there's lots of f*cking modders trying to get in and they can't

 

Many of your posts are stupid and don't come with "If you don't like my style, ignore it". If that was true, there were going to have lots of spams, but we was going to "just ignore it". If a moderator tell you to shut up, shut up

 

@Blaster_nl

 

Thank you for anwering. Maybe Santa gives me a good card and I'll try do something. Really thanks

[EverLost123]

Ever lost, stop spamming and speak in English.

This is an English forum, also if you have nothing significant to post then don't post at all.

 

You've spammed enough already in here.

I was explaining him that it is a bad idea. resuming : what blaster said , but in portuguese.

 

 

 

I just cant get it , im not disturbing anyone , if you are getting mad with my mode of talk , please , just ignore it.

No, you didn't

 

You said that I'm not a f*cking modder so I can't get in the team, and that there's lots of f*cking modders trying to get in and they can't

 

Many of your posts are stupid and don't come with "If you don't like my style, ignore it". If that was true, there were going to have lots of spams, but we was going to "just ignore it". If a moderator tell you to shut up, shut up

 

@Blaster_nl

 

Thank you for anwering. Maybe Santa gives me a good card and I'll try do something. Really thanks

Ok so , if you cant understand you own language , im dont gonna waste my time explaining to you.

 

 

[ShakingASS]

Don't get banned like heron guy did.If you want to join wait for tool or script.

[EverLost123]

Im just get mad when he confuses ''better not do that'' then ''you are not a f**king modder'' .

 

anyway , im thinking here what can i do , i lost all my motivation with this multichannel thing , the most important sounds cant be replaced. The other minor almost unseen sounds will not make any difference , its looks like making a Ford T a ferrari , you can change almost anything ,but with keeping the Ford T motor , it makes no sense

 

GTA IV is really not a good game for total conversions.

 

 

[Flitskikker]

 

K^2, do you have any preview for me ? (pm)

Edit: What's the problem with multi-channel sounds again? Is it just a lack of converters? I've hacked sound files before, I guess I can take a look and see if I can figure out the file format.

It's a lack of converters and information.

The compressed sounds (radio, Niko sounds) are IMA ADPCM encoded, but in a special way. Especially the multi channel sounds.

 

I just tried replacing a sound in a single channel compressed IVAUD file by encoding to IMA ADPCM, in which I succeeded (so yeah folks there's some progress!!11!):

 

 

 

But it sounds crappy. Here's the source for comparison:

 

http://www63.zippyshare.com/v/7139956/file.html

 

I tried using Cool Edit Pro, Audacity and the Windows Sound Recorder. All with the same crappy result. So probably there's something different in the encoding progress.

 

A plan is to use SparkIV's decoding code, and reverse it. But I didn't have the time yet, nor it looks like it's easy.

If you would like to help, sure, it would be greatly appreciated.

Edited October 11, 2011 by flitskikker