cidamelo Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 akavari112 I don't understand it too! He is too elegant to her! I think that Ray started to date Ashley to have more influence in The Lost And Damned Gang, but then, unfortunately, he felt in love with her. Maybe he has a fantasy about druggies girls . AceRay Ray "sucks" Jimmy Pegorino just to have more influence in the Family! He isn't gay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Scratch Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 In the beta mission you were supposed to choose between Ray and Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkpile Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 In the beta mission you were supposed to choose between Ray and Phil kill phil? no way. I mean, this is a PBX - DWAYNE decision to me. I will kill RAY BOCCINO, always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mati Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 I don´t like Ray anymore. Phil is much better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lolwut Pear Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU!!! Ray Boccino is the best character, and didn't deserved to die! He was good to Niko. Thankfully in the end Jimmy Pegorino betrays Niko, so guess who was wrong. AceRay I don't think Ray is gay!!! *Sigh* I thought Boccino could have had a more symbolic death, but once I met Phil Bell I kind of knew that Ray was going to get whacked ,plus in The Lost and Damned he gets Jim killed, which just made me hate him even more. You do know who killed Jim, right? Just checking Yes, I do. But Ray sent him to get killed, Niko is simply "the messenger". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidamelo Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 PHIL IS THE TRUE RAT!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mati Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 PHIL IS THE TRUE RAT!! *facedesk* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lolwut Pear Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 PHIL IS THE TRUE RAT!! *facedesk* *forcepalm* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceRay Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 PHIL IS THE TRUE RAT!! *facedesk* *forcepalm* we've been over this many times, Anthony was the only rat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGTAGamer Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Here we go again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferddy987 Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Here we go again. Am I doing it rite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidamelo Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 People just like Phil because he has a "friendly" look. Ray looks arrogant, and Phil looks like the "friendly" guy. But HE IS THE TRUE RAT! Who watched the movie "Goodfellas" will know what I mean. And it's VERY SUSPECT he move to a "quiet town", and he was under a heavy surveillance of FIB. Strange?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyla Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 So he's a rat because he's predominantly Irish like Henry Hill? Do you know how close-minded that sounds?? Does this also make the McReary's 'rats' because they were Irish associating with full-blooded Italians? Jeez... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceRay Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 so everyone who's friendly is a rat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidamelo Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Tyla it's a evidency. Because of his irish ancestry, he couldn't be anything big in the Pegorino Family, unlike Ray. Ray wanted to be the boss, why would he rat the Family? AceRay Everyone who looks arrogant and bad is a rat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceRay Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 I never said Ray was a rat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mati Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 So, here we go again. The same discussion *sigh*. I started it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkpile Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Tyla it's a evidency. Because of his irish ancestry, he couldn't be anything big in the Pegorino Family, unlike Ray. Ray wanted to be the boss, why would he rat the Family?AceRay Everyone who looks arrogant and bad is a rat? Oh yeah? His nephew and him were under surveillance...remember "to live and die in Alderney"? do you think the law will let him go for killing all those policemen? Phil at least doesn't send Niko to do the dirty work, he fights side by side with Niko in "catch the wave", "to live and die in Alderney" and "If the price is right". Ray only needs Niko as a clean up guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidamelo Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 But Niko was a clean up guy.... and he was well-paid to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkpile Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 But Niko was a clean up guy.... and he was well-paid to do it. sure he is. but how does that make Phil a true rat? my point isn't Ray using Niko as a hitman for hire, my point is: Phil and his nephew were under surveillance and killed a lot of cops. to quote MR PINK from resevoir dogs: do you think the police would work with a mass murderer or cop killer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidamelo Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 junkpile yes they would, I can use GTA as a example, with Francis McReary and ULPC . I made a topic explain why Phil would be the rat, and not Ray, but I don't know how to find it. And just a question, will you record a video about "mine nightmare"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vercetti27 Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU!!! Ray Boccino is the best character, and didn't deserved to die! He was good to Niko. Thankfully in the end Jimmy Pegorino betrays Niko, so guess who was wrong. AceRay I don't think Ray is gay!!! why isn't he gay? There is way more evidence that he is. He fisted Mallorie in a secret cutscene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidamelo Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Vercetti27 I never seen this scene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkpile Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 junkpile yes they would, I can use GTA as a example, with Francis McReary and ULPC . I made a topic explain why Phil would be the rat, and not Ray, but I don't know how to find it. And just a question, will you record a video about "mine nightmare"? do you want to see it? well I will do if I get the chance. I know the topic and I know you know that game and the characters very well. still, Phil is certainly not a rat. the pegorino syndicate had no rats except for Anthony Corrado. Ray didn't "deserve" to die. But I would prefer Phil over Ray. Actually if you would play TLAD and see the cutscene to "was it worth it?" and know that one...let me tell, right there Johnny deserved to be kicked in the face by Ray. Pegorino wanted to be sure that noone rats so he had to set an example. he had to take someone out where goons would never think he would whack them. And Ray is the bigger threat to Pegorino, he might wanna take over. phil is more like a dedicated worker, follows orders. whenever it's about the Pegorino syndicate, Ray really becomes an ass kisser. before, I liked him more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceRay Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 you've never seen the secret Mallorie + Ray cutscene? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidamelo Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 junkpile to watch Ray die is not a pleasure, but I admit I'm curious to see the video I don't know so much things about GTA IV, but I try to know the most I can! . If you think Pegorino Family had no rats but Anthony Conrado, why Pegorino was so under heavy-surveillance? Do you think Pegorino Family was under heavy surveillance because it was a weak family, so they had less influence in the justice and politics, unlike Gambetti Family, and not because someone was ratting out the organization, like Jimmy Pegorino thought? I'm crazy to play The Lost And Damned too see if Ray is sooo bad like everyone says. Yes, Ray is very ass-kisser, it is kind of ridiculous I must admit, but I still like him, and I think he is the best character of GTA IV. AceRay I've never seen it! I searched for it and I haven't found anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mati Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 AceRay I've never seen it! I searched for it and I haven't found anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyDog Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 junkpile to watch Ray die is not a pleasure, but I admit I'm curious to see the video I don't know so much things about GTA IV, but I try to know the most I can! . If you think Pegorino Family had no rats but Anthony Conrado, why Pegorino was so under heavy-surveillance? Do you think Pegorino Family was under heavy surveillance because it was a weak family, so they had less influence in the justice and politics, unlike Gambetti Family, and not because someone was ratting out the organization, like Jimmy Pegorino thought? I'm crazy to play The Lost And Damned too see if Ray is sooo bad like everyone says. Yes, Ray is very ass-kisser, it is kind of ridiculous I must admit, but I still like him, and I think he is the best character of GTA IV. AceRay I've never seen it! I searched for it and I haven't found anything. Best character because he's handsome, right? You value characters by their look. There are lots of evidence that Ray is gay, and you demand he is not, and on the other side there are no evidences that Tommy Vercetti is gay and you demand he is. And for the last time. PHIL BELL AIN'T A GODDAMN RAT!!!! ANTHONY WAS THE ONLY ONE!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidamelo Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 MyDog it is not just because he is good looking. I think he was a well-designed character, with a good voice acting, and good missions. I think you're only saying Ray is gay to annoy me, because I've never seen somebody thinking he is gay!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceRay Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 (edited) actually, he has an obvious crush on Niko. Its obvious when he first meets him. Thats why Niko don't like him And Ray + Mallorie is an awesome cutscene btw. All you have to do is 1. Watch a show at Split Sides. the whole show. 2. Once outside, dial 978 009 5124. Nothing will happen, but it enables the ability to watch the cutscene 3. Spawn a Buffalo(227-555-0100), and crash into a Patriot. 4. Smash the windows of a Primo 5. Have a fist fight with a ped, and knock them out 6. Fire the Uzi 37 times. 7. Fly a helitours helicopter into theZirconium Building All this must be done at night, and you only have 10 minutes to do it. Why don't you try it now? Edited December 11, 2010 by AceRay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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