GeForce GTX 460 Vs. Radeon HD 5850

[LIVE_SlimSlugga713]

GTX 460 vs HD 5850

[yoječ]

...and? This has been known for months now, just look when this article was published.

[LIVE_SlimSlugga713]

...and? This has been known for months now, just look when this article was published.

well sorry....... just did some research.

[viometrix]

well then you are way behind the curve, next thing you know youll be inventing the wheel.

 

also a good researcher checks dates, data, etc for relevant information.

Edited December 6, 2010 by viometrix

[Ron Taboga]

I think both cards are pretty good. The HD5850 is a little bit faster than the GTX460 (not overclocked), but then the GTX has hardware physics. It depends on what your prioritys are. But both cards are definitevily a great bang for the buck.

[mkey82]

GTX 460 can be had for $180 and it's maybe a few percent slower then 5850 which is about $50 more expensive. However, 6850 is faster then both of these cards while keeping the price around the $180 mark. It's not physx capable, but when you take into consideration the performance hit on the 460 with physx enabled, I don't find it like a big issue anyway.

[yoječ]

Since when 6850 is faster than 5850?

[OverTheBelow]

Since when 6850 is faster than 5850?

He's right. It's the 6870 that is only marginally faster than the 5850. The 6850 however is ironically a tad slower.

[Ron Taboga]

Since when 6850 is faster than 5850?

He's right. It's the 6870 that is only marginally faster than the 5850. The 6850 however is ironically a tad slower.

Yes but the 6850 is also cheaper than the 5850. So the price/performance ratio is good in both cards.

 

Not to mention that the HD6850 draws much less power. It has only one 6pin PCI-E connector to the PSU.

[OverTheBelow]

Since when 6850 is faster than 5850?

He's right. It's the 6870 that is only marginally faster than the 5850. The 6850 however is ironically a tad slower.

Yes but the 6850 is also cheaper than the 5850. So the price/performance ratio is good in both cards.

 

Not to mention that the HD6850 draws much less power. It has only one 6pin PCI-E connector to the PSU.

It's also a year newer and has 3D capabilities.

[yoječ]

Yes but the 6850 is also cheaper than the 5850. So the price/performance ratio is good in both cards.

 

Not to mention that the HD6850 draws much less power. It has only one 6pin PCI-E connector to the PSU.

That's another story. I was just refering to the performance itself.

[mkey82]

Since when 6850 is faster than 5850?

In synthetics benchmarks it is faster

 

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html

[yoječ]

Yeah, 'cause everyone plays benchmarks.

 

In games it's slower and that's what very most people care about.

[LIVE_SlimSlugga713]

ok im downloading the overclocking software for my GTX 460. how do i tell what series mine is?

[OverTheBelow]

ok im downloading the overclocking software for my GTX 460. how do i tell what series mine is?

Your GTX 460 is part of the Nvidia Geforce 400 series.

[TheTomster]

ok im downloading the overclocking software for my GTX 460. how do i tell what series mine is?

Your GTX 460 is part of the Nvidia Geforce 400 series.

That. Or he could also mean something like what the model name is extended, like my GTX 470 is a "Twin Frozr" or something along those lines.

 

But yeah, 460 is 400 series... that should be quite obvious by the name of the card.

[LIVE_SlimSlugga713]

ok im downloading the overclocking software for my GTX 460. how do i tell what series mine is?

Your GTX 460 is part of the Nvidia Geforce 400 series.

That. Or he could also mean something like what the model name is extended, like my GTX 470 is a "Twin Frozr" or something along those lines.

 

But yeah, 460 is 400 series... that should be quite obvious by the name of the card.

ok look this what im saying im just making sure this program support overclocking my Vcard http://downloads.guru3d.com/Afterburner-2....nload-2562.html but i think it do it sayed something bout 400 series.

[IronHide-AW]

^ yes and I recall saying this early on too actually. So does EVGA Precision tool ( I prefer that one, but you just have to register on their board to DL it). They both support reference cards (as I said before). That means they support the card regardless of who actually manufactored the card as long as that naufacturer didn't heavily deviate from nVidia reference design or do something strange that confuse the utility in reading data from the hardware or drivers.

 

You are very new but are also very eager to "learn" which is great to see. Be very, very careful with Afterburner because as I recall it lets you modify Voltages too. Based on your current knowledge I highly recommend you absolutely do not modify voltages at all. Don't touch them. That's the easiest, fastest way to instantly destroy the card. Just play with (slowly) bumping the clocks and see results, but not voltages.

 

Sorry but had to do that since you are choosing a tool that will let you modify voltage. Down the road when you have more experience under your belt it'll be more clear. For now though, just avoid that particular feature

[Phil45]

I had a 5770 running in this rig at first and the framerates with shadows on high/very high were as low as 4 or 5 fps in the daytime(1080p), along with alot of odd texture bugs.

 

On the GTX460..of course a faster card..one simular more to the 5850 then 5770, the frame rate never dropped below 15fps..even with shadows on very high(all else maxed as well in 1080p), and the benchmark averaged 52fps when shadows on very high(all else maxed out as well in 1080p). A full day/night 24 cycle averages 30 fps with everything maxed(shadows very high), and 40-45fps with all maxed and shadows on high.

 

Now once i lowered the shadows to low on the 5770, the game ran more stable, but still has there odd drops in frame rate.

 

Since i'm a huge IV fanatic(i have all 3 versions, and all 3 EFLC as well), i knew the best choice was a GTX GPU, and i picked one up for under $250(newegg), and that being a 2GB version of the GTX460(Zotac version).

 

I simply could not be happier.

 

ATI does make the faster GPU's, but i prefer the stability of Nvidia's drivers and the few games where Physx(ie Mafia 2, Metro 2033) is used. Heck a 5970 with physx on high in Mafia 2 runs it under 15frs in 1080p.

 

So yeah the 6850 is a bit faster then the GTX460, but i'd take stability/compatibility over speed, any day.

[LIVE_SlimSlugga713]

 

^ yes and I recall saying this early on too actually. So does EVGA Precision tool ( I prefer that one, but you just have to register on their board to DL it). They both support reference cards (as I said before). That means they support the card regardless of who actually manufactored the card as long as that naufacturer didn't heavily deviate from nVidia reference design or do something strange that confuse the utility in reading data from the hardware or drivers.

 

You are very new but are also very eager to "learn" which is great to see. Be very, very careful with Afterburner because as I recall it lets you modify Voltages too. Based on your current knowledge I highly recommend you absolutely do not modify voltages at all. Don't touch them. That's the easiest, fastest way to instantly destroy the card. Just play with (slowly) bumping the clocks and see results, but not voltages.

 

Sorry but had to do that since you are choosing a tool that will let you modify voltage. Down the road when you have more experience under your belt it'll be more clear. For now though, just avoid that particular feature

ok IronHide-AW i'll go with the EVGA tool. i downloaded the latest version and didnt have to register? unless you mean to run the tool but the download was completely free of registry . but yea im a noob now but im learnin' im learnin' gimmie time and i will be able to help people out like you do . My PC have been shipped all ready and the arrival time is friday so im just getting all the programs and info i need because im impatient to play!!!

Edited December 8, 2010 by LIVE_SlimSlugga713

[Jigglyass]

Oh yeah, TAKE YOUR TIME BUILDING IT. If its the first time, try not to f*ck it up.

If it does now fit, you're doing it wrong.

Edited December 8, 2010 by JigglyAss

[mkey82]

 

Yeah, 'cause everyone plays benchmarks.

 

In games it's slower and that's what very most people care about.

Yes and most gaming benchmarks are site/hardware manufacturer/config/drivers/game/reviewer/etc/etc/etc dependent so I just learned to ignore them for the most part.