Voodoo Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 Seriously, why do so many people HATE Hitler? Isn't there anyone else who just thinks of him as some bloke that wasn't particularly nice that caused a lot of trouble years ago but ultimately doesn't really give a sh*t? It's this kind of ignorance and complacency that allows historical atrocities to be repeated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AH64Hunter Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 I think coco fan's still hate Jay Leno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runey Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 For most English football-loving people, probably Sepp Blatter. Or the few of us here in America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSeas Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 I can't stand JLS, they're everything that is wrong with music. Not only are their songs the usual Pop sh*t but they sell out at every opportunity. Not only have they appeared on ads for the Wii and DS but they also put their faces on condom packets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinski Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 I can't stand JLS, they're everything that is wrong with music. Not only are their songs the usual Pop sh*t but they sell out at every opportunity. Not only have they appeared on ads for the Wii and DS but they also put their faces on condom packets. I know man, they've really sold out. They were way cooler when they were still undergrou- oh wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSeas Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 I can't stand JLS, they're everything that is wrong with music. Not only are their songs the usual Pop sh*t but they sell out at every opportunity. Not only have they appeared on ads for the Wii and DS but they also put their faces on condom packets. I know man, they've really sold out. They were way cooler when they were still undergrou- oh wait. I know everything they've done is commercial, but I call them sell outs because they've spent most of their time being a cash cow rather than doing what musicians should be doing which is focusing on the music. Obviously its not just them but they're proof that shows like X Factor and BGT are ruining the entertainment industry. Its for that reason, I hate Simon Cowell, his shows and any of the attention seeking wannabe's who rise to fame through them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conscioushours Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 Sarah Palin George W. Bush Silvio Berlusconi + pretty much every conservative and close-minded leader in this world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_-=Zombie=-_ Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 I think Bin Laden is a pretty cool guy. eh kills americ*nts and doesn’t afraid of anything… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethal Nizzle Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 I think Bin Laden is a pretty cool guy. eh kills americ*nts and doesn’t afraid of anything… Amazing. @Runey: Oh yeah forgot about everyone else involved in the bid, haha. Wales for 2030! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EduardKoeleJuck Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 Adam and Eve, they ate the f*ckin' apple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 If my facebook is any indication Cher Lloyd is perhaps Britain's most hated person right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonshield Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 That would be Murdoch. And he's only really hated by champagne Socialists. University types who decry capitalism while living off their trust funds. More like Rupert Marduk if you ask me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethal Nizzle Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 If my facebook is any indication Cher Lloyd is perhaps Britain's most hated person right now. Sweet lord, as cliché as this probably sounds, I don't watch X Factor much but I saw tonight's episode - what the f*ck, Mary sang like a champion! But yeah, my Facebook blew up with Cher Lloyd hate too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy-Vercetti19 Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 If my facebook is any indication Cher Lloyd is perhaps Britain's most hated person right now. Sweet lord, as cliché as this probably sounds, I don't watch X Factor much but I saw tonight's episode - what the f*ck, Mary sang like a champion! But yeah, my Facebook blew up with Cher Lloyd hate too. Mary lives down the road from me believe it or not. It's terrible news i and the whole of Ireland thought she was going to get through. She sang brilliantly and her nephew Mark who's my friend rang me there and told me everyone is absolutely gutter over there. Cher shouldn't of gotten through. But sh*t happens, i still think the show is a total fix. But Mary's definitely not going back to the tills at the Tesco. I heard that she's going to be the face of Tesco and that she's getting some serious cash for it. I don't know though. Cher has to definitely go next week. Ireland's going to make sure of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WF the Hobgoblin Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 Seriously, why do so many people HATE Hitler? Isn't there anyone else who just thinks of him as some bloke that wasn't particularly nice that caused a lot of trouble years ago but ultimately doesn't really give a sh*t? His subordinates orchestrated, by his command, the death of 6 million people. In 1938, he had 38, 000 political opponents to the re-unification of Austria and Germany killed. World War 2, begot by of his feverish expansion and lack of cooperation with the allies, resulted in untold tragedy and countless deaths. Hitler put forth such acts as "Life unworthy of Life", an act which aimed to kill all babies born with mental or physical defects. Need I say more? Well, yeah actually. Instead of a history lesson ( I'm quite aware of many of the things he did ), you could try explaining how you and / or others could have such a personal grievance to hate a man whose been dead long before your time. Don't get me wrong, I certainly don't the sound of the guy and I'm quite happy that I wasn't around back then, but I certainly don't hate him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunrise Driver Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 Stalin was bad but he wasn't evil in my opinion. Because killing ~30 million people in 1932-1933, 1937, 1946-1948 isn't evil at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nerner Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 Seriously, why do so many people HATE Hitler? Isn't there anyone else who just thinks of him as some bloke that wasn't particularly nice that caused a lot of trouble years ago but ultimately doesn't really give a sh*t? His subordinates orchestrated, by his command, the death of 6 million people. In 1938, he had 38, 000 political opponents to the re-unification of Austria and Germany killed. World War 2, begot by of his feverish expansion and lack of cooperation with the allies, resulted in untold tragedy and countless deaths. Hitler put forth such acts as "Life unworthy of Life", an act which aimed to kill all babies born with mental or physical defects. Need I say more? Well, yeah actually. Instead of a history lesson ( I'm quite aware of many of the things he did ), you could try explaining how you and / or others could have such a personal grievance to hate a man whose been dead long before your time. If you'd have been concentrating, he gave you a list... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WF the Hobgoblin Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 I don't consider those to be legitimate reasons for personal hatred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svip Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 (edited) In 1938, he had 38, 000 political opponents to the re-unification of Austria and Germany killed. Austria and Germany had never before been unified. Prussia threw Austria out of German affairs in 1866 during the Astro-Prussian War. Stalin was bad but he wan't evil in my opinion. Stalin was the worst of the worst. Hitler - in my opinion - is hardly as bad you give him credit for. He didn't alone orchestra the death of 6 million people. It was devised by several people in the Nazi top during the Second World War. Hitler may have been a loon - and yes, evil - but hardly alone and doesn't the deserve the credit given him. Stalin is often perceived as the better guy of the two, because he - unlike Hitler - won the war. But Stalin killed far many more people and for much unheard of reasons than Hitler did. What Hitler did was basically what Europeans had been doing for the last 2000 years. Killing Jews had been the pastime of Europe for two millennia. While yes, it had become 'old fashioned' by WW2, Hitler wasn't very original, which is obvious as he dreamt of Germany of olden days, i.e. the Holy Roman Empire. Stalin - however - just killed people he was suspicious of. And not just killed them, but their family too. And sometimes he might just have their wife or children deported as a sign of 'get in line, comrade'. And before any of you starting mentioning Mao killing 60 million+ people, I'd say, please don't. Mao wasn't evil, he was just an incompetent idiot who devised plans for China that lead to millions of deaths. He never intended for them to die. Most people really doesn't hate Hitler these days. Hate requires a rather immense amount of time. It is hard to hate someone who never directly infected your life. People just 'hate Hitler', because everyone else does it. That's not hate. That's reading history books of winners. Edited December 5, 2010 by Svip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vercetti27 Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 hitler was underated, stalin was much worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Tequeli Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 + pretty much every conservative and close-minded leader in this world. Hating anyone who is conservative is kind of close minded eh? I think intention matters almost as much as action. Hitler isn't any worse then someone who wants to kill all the Jews but doesn't have the capability of doing so. If you think indiscriminate extermination of an entire group of people is acceptable I probably hate you because you're a violent sociopath or extremely ignorant. Osama Bin Laden is an evil f*ck not just for his current actions but his intentions, if he had it his way all 300 million Americans would be dead, as would every Jew and probably the rest of the Western World. That certainly is a lofty goal, he won't succeed, there will be no literal 'Death to America', but given the opportunity he would do it in a heartbeat. Hitler's intentions were larger than his actions as well, as he pretty much wanted to depopulate Europe (and perhaps the World) of non-Germanic people and repopulate it with Germans and other acceptable races. That death toll would have been substantial, much more than the Holocaust (which killed many more than 11 million as Jews were not the only target). Stalin in a way seems worse because he was intent on killing his own people for basically any old reason, as well as being an incompetent economic leader. Mao expands on the concept of being an incompetent f*ck to its logical extreme, but still had a Stalinist (i.e. crazy) mindset. Fascists tend to be universally unpopular so perhaps they are the most hated, even if some communists were worse. A Stalinist T-shirt (or a Che one for that matter) wouldn't get the attention that a Nazi T-Shirt would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svip Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 Remember that during the 20s and 30s, Nazis and Fascists weren't viewed as bad as they are today. In fact, in many countries it seemed like a reasonable political approach. And many considered the Fascists in Italy and Nazis in Germany as legal regimes. It wasn't really during the war that people realised but until afterwards what was going on. And that's despite the fact, that the intentions of the Nazis were publicly known by the time they got elected 1932. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D- Ice Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 (edited) + pretty much every conservative and close-minded leader in this world. I think intention matters almost as much as action. Hitler isn't any worse then someone who wants to kill all the Jews but doesn't have the capability of doing so. If you think indiscriminate extermination of an entire group of people is acceptable I probably hate you because you're a violent sociopath or extremely ignorant. Osama Bin Laden is an evil f*ck not just for his current actions but his intentions, if he had it his way all 300 million Americans would be dead, as would every Jew and probably the rest of the Western World. That certainly is a lofty goal, he won't succeed, there will be no literal 'Death to America', but given the opportunity he would do it in a heartbeat. While I completely agree with you on intentions, I don't believe Bin Laden is as evil as most would think. It is true like everyone he has complete autonomy over his actions, however he is the brainwashing product of the Taliban (which existed way before his arrival) much more than the other way around. The guy was a playboy from a staunchily pro-Western family, who enjoyed the finest whiskey, high-stakes gambling and the company of easy women. He would have never imagined the opposite type of lifestyle with crappy food, Islamist politics and being surrounded by bearded men until he traveled to Afghanistan, and the Taliban exploited a near-death experience he had at the hands of some Soviet Forces to brainwash him, then make him the figure head of their organisation. I would even go as far as arguing he holds very little power in actually running the organisation past being a figure-head - the serious stuff is usually co-ordinated in Pakistan. Also, despite their infamous propoganda about hating the West and Jews, the vast majority of people they are actively targetting and killing in their terrorism are Muslim civilians in non-Western, majority Muslim countries. But then again, media sensationalism rarely follows logic. Fascists tend to be universally unpopular so perhaps they are the most hated, even if some communists were worse. A Stalinist T-shirt (or a Che one for that matter) wouldn't get the attention that a Nazi T-Shirt would. As opposed to popular beliefs and political propoganda, Communists WERE Fascists, rather than their polar opposite. According to my understanding, stringent government control and influence over the Economy is usually called Socialism, and the same type of control over the Social issues of the country are usually called Fascism. In Cold War era Communism, both of these were implemented simultaniously. Also many fascists like Hitler were openly Socialist as well. Ironically though, many 'Right-Wing' governments meddle in the affairs of their economy just as much as self-proclaimed Socialist governments, though it is usually wrong to brand them as Socialist too... On Topic: I don't really believe it is right to villianise specifically one person, as the most evil and repugnant acts against humanity have all been planned, organised and executed by large organisations. Even their most inner circles must have contained some few hundred people who all knew the full extents of their plans, whether they were the Holocaust or terrorist acts in Iraq. These organisations all happen to be smart enough to have a figurehead to pin everything onto for history to judge, and buying into the bullsh*t motion that one man was behind all the evil is mere naivity, and to all extents downright immoral (in allowing most the perpetrators to get away and making it possible for the same evil to happen again in the future). Edited December 6, 2010 by D- Ice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nerner Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 I don't consider those to be legitimate reasons for personal hatred. Well other people do, obviously. And since that was the question that you asked... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theodoro Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 People who moan about their EMA coming late despite not spending it on things for school/college and despite the fact they are being given free money. People who ride their bikes on the pavement despite there being a cycle lane right next to the pavement. Girls who try to look sexy bending over in pictures showing off there tits when there clearly trying to hide the fact they weigh 95 stone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn 7 five 11 Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 I think intention matters almost as much as action. I sometimes feel like murdering people, does that make me evil? Even though i would never do it even if there was no laws against murder, is that the difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ari Gold Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 I think intention matters almost as much as action. I sometimes feel like murdering people, does that make me evil? Even though i would never do it even if there was no laws against murder, is that the difference? Do you ever feel like obliterating an entire nationality, like, seriously murder and get rid of the entire nationality, because of the actions of one person you dislike? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svip Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 I think intention matters almost as much as action. I sometimes feel like murdering people, does that make me evil? Even though i would never do it even if there was no laws against murder, is that the difference? Do you ever feel like obliterating an entire nationality, like, seriously murder and get rid of the entire nationality, because of the actions of one person you dislike? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.A.B. Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Stalin was bad but he wasn't evil in my opinion. Because killing ~30 million people in 1932-1933, 1937, 1946-1948 isn't evil at all. Hitler killed people on the grounds that they're inferior. Stalin did it for political reasons. For some reason or another, people have no problem with the reasoning being politics. Anyway, I gotta say; is it wrong of me to support Hitler's '''tards shouldn't reproduce' program? I mean...it...it makes sense.. guiz...guiz..... it makes sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dog_day_sunrise Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Stalin was bad but he wasn't evil in my opinion. Because killing ~30 million people in 1932-1933, 1937, 1946-1948 isn't evil at all. More than Hitler unless I'm mistaken. A much nastier individual. Also, Hitler's economic policies deserve a lot of creditl. He rebuilt Germany in an astonishingly short time. Whereas Stalin essentially caused widespread famine with his, then had anyone who pointed that out executed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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