next gen graphics

[Otter]

 

Metroid (NES) was a better game than any fancy-pants piece of sh*t game out today.

 

They shouldn't even be called games. They're (somewhat) interactive movies.

I truly can't tell you how much I agree with this.

Elitist rose-tinted glasses bullsh*t. And if makeshyft wasn't being facetious, I'd punch him in the balls.

Edited December 4, 2010 by Otter

[Toup]

Metroid (NES) was a better game than any fancy-pants piece of sh*t game out today.

 

They shouldn't even be called games. They're (somewhat) interactive movies.

I truly can't tell you how much I agree with this.

I think the fun still stays even if it as realistic graphics. If it doesn't theres a problem with who made the game.

[Otter]

I'll take a hundred GTAIVs over one Super Mario Brothers any day. I'll take a gorgeous cinematic experience over mindless platforming regardless to how iconic it is.

I gave up on GTAIV about 1/3 of the way in. Metal Gear is a gorgeous cinematic experience. GTAIV was a goofy crime simulator that tried to take itself too seriously.

 

I'd take 1000 SMB games over another GTAIV.

[visionist]

 

 

Call me when real-time raytracing is possible. That's when things will look incredibly realistic... although we'll need a bigger storage medium that Blu-ray discs at that time because models and textures will have to be incredibly detailed to match the amazing rendering environment.

 

Here's a good example of how sh*tty current gen consoles are: three PS3s struggling to do real time raytracing rendering of a car model on a flat plane. Lag, lag and more lag. IBM put this together, so I'm going to assume that it's not really any software issues, although I'm sure it could be optimized a bit more. 

Please explain the idea of raytracing. I haven't heard of that yet. Remember that numbers and specs are meaningless to this noob.

 

PS that Murci demonstration vid wasn't very clear to me- what is so groundbreaking about real time reflections?

[E.A.B.]

I hate this.

 

 

 

Those pics look f*cking boring. I don't care for realism since it bores me to death.

 

You guys are forgetting something; games take a lot more cash today than yesterday to make. Part of the reason is because of all the work that goes into increasing the graphics by 10%. This has several repercussions:

 

-Developers aren't willing to take big risks on games since they cost too much to make (WAIT A SECOND, THIS SEEMS LIKE WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW!)

 

-Developers simply rip off successful ideas and go with the flow

 

-blah blah blah

 

Basically, the more money companies spend to make something, the less they're willing to do riskier things.

 

Do you know why independent films tend to be more 'out there'? Do you know why smaller budget games tend to sometimes go in a different direction?

 

Money. The less it costs, the safer the gamble. I like it that way. I prefer to have games be games and not pumped up to block buster movie status.

 

 

[Otter]

Call me when real-time raytracing is possible. That's when things will look incredibly realistic... although we'll need a bigger storage medium that Blu-ray discs at that time because models and textures will have to be incredibly detailed to match the amazing rendering environment.

Gimme some of whatever you're smoking, man. The future's procedural; storage mediums aren;t the limit; innovation is the ceiling we're fighting.

[Ari Gold]

Graphics should always be secondary to a game's entertainment value, and that's a constant. It's possible for graphics to be a part of the experience, but you'd be a bit excessive if you bought a game just for the graphics, unless you lead a mildly-boring existence.

 

Real life's got pretty good graphics.

[Otter]

Single most retarded thing I've seen all week. Thanks. It's like The Room: The Game.

[E.A.B.]

You seem to be rather peeved at something

 

Either way; killer7 was pure genius.

[Node]

TBH i hate little kids who think that the Xbox 360 or PS3 is better than The PC gaming, I mean ive got nothing against the xbox or ps3 im just saying that for a xbox or ps3 its what £250 but for a top of the range gaming PC its between £1000 - £2000. So tell me how is a £250 Console going to be better than a £1000 - £2000 proper gaming system ?

[E.A.B.]

Define 'better'

 

if it's how pretty a game looks, well then; they're stuck with whatever those consoles are carrying onboard. You aren't.

[Node]

you mean we can always upgrade our hardware and on the other hand they cant

[E.A.B.]

Obviously

 

30 CORES AND MY FIREPROOF NVIDIA

[Runey]

 

TBH i hate little kids who think that the Xbox 360 or PS3 is better than The PC gaming, I mean ive got nothing against the xbox or ps3 im just saying that for a xbox or ps3 its what £250 but for a top of the range gaming PC its between £1000 - £2000. So tell me how is a £250 Console going to be better than a £1000 - £2000 proper gaming system ?

I'm a console person myself, but I have to agree.

 

I also hate when PC gamers go around calling console games stupid. (Though that assessment is accurate on some people, but those are the ones that get muted/blocked)

 

Both are equally as ignorant, in my honest opinion.

Edited December 4, 2010 by Runey.

[Node]

 

Obviously

 

30 CORES AND MY FIREPROOF NVIDIA

 

Haha im upgrading my PC soon too, im using a borrowed Graphics card ATM hoping to get a new motherboard, and Graphics card.

When i have enough money.

[Ari Gold]

Well, what's "better" is what people find more entertaining. I don't mind PC gaming, but I honestly have more fun playing things on consoles. Are you going to f*cking shoot me about it?

[Otter]

You seem to be rather peeved at something

 

Either way; killer7 was pure genius.

Hi who are you lets play russian roulette

 

huh

 

ok if you win you get to learn the secret to all girls if you lose you kill president

 

sure

 

 

 

 

I mean, come the f*ck on.

[Node]

 

Well, what's "better" is what people find more entertaining. I don't mind PC gaming, but I honestly have more fun playing things on consoles. Are you going to f*cking shoot me about it?

 

Haha, nope wouldnt want to mess with you

[E.A.B.]

 

You seem to be rather peeved at something

 

Either way; killer7 was pure genius.

Hi who are you lets play russian roulette

 

huh

 

ok if you win you get to learn the secret to all girls if you lose you kill president

 

sure

 

 

 

 

I mean, come the f*ck on.

They didn't meet out of the blue, it was all planned. Plus, the president is closely tied since the man sitting on that chair co-ehh, forget about it.

 

It's one of the few games I've ever played that had me thinking slamming my head against walls trying to figure out just what the f*ck happened.

 

I loved it.

 

But, anyway, enough about it. Any arguments against the rest of the post the video was in?

[Otter]

Nope, totally agree with you. You just didn't happen to have a shining example.

 

I'm afraid that most indie developers tack important sh*t - like writing, for instance, or, you know, acting talent - on at the last minute. And it's not like that sh*t's expensive - it's just outside of their sphere of influence. Which is a shame.

[Robinski]

TBH i hate little kids who think that the Xbox 360 or PS3 is better than The PC gaming,

They are, for me. I like not having to worry about specs, drivers, hardware and the like. I like being able to buy game> put game in tray> play game. Just because one platform has more power doesn't inherently make it better, especially when all that power turns into a massive jerk off competition, as seen in all the signatures here consisting only of PC specs.

 

But what do I know, I'm just a kid who enjoys playing his Baby'sFirstGame console.

[Node]

 

They are, for me. I like not having to worry about specs, drivers, hardware and the like. I like being able to buy game> put game in tray> play game. Just because one platform has more power doesn't inherently make it better, especially when all that power turns into a massive jerk off competition, as seen in all the signatures here consisting only of PC specs.

 

But what do I know, I'm just a kid who enjoys playing his Baby'sFirstGame console.

 

its everybody's different opinion though i suppose. Some people like it simple whereas others like to build something they can be proud of

[Otter]

Eh, I don't think it's about being proud of a f*cking machine. I think it's about the fact that, at least until recently, PC gaming has afforded a richer gaming experience on many levels.

 

Sadly, that has declined with the emergence of the mainstream gamer - where all the money is being spent these days.

[The-King]

 

TBH i hate little kids who think that the Xbox 360 or PS3 is better than The PC gaming,

They are, for me. I like not having to worry about specs, drivers, hardware and the like. I like being able to buy game> put game in tray> play game. Just because one platform has more power doesn't inherently make it better, especially when all that power turns into a massive jerk off competition, as seen in all the signatures here consisting only of PC specs.

 

But what do I know, I'm just a kid who enjoys playing his Baby'sFirstGame console.

I'd rather download a game and have it one click away for as long as I want and not be forced to move positions when I want to take a break from a game or even have to change disks from some clunky DVD drive, not to mention not having to pay for a half assed online experience, I get dedicated servers, for free. I can go strait from playing a game to watching Youtube videos, hell I can watch Youtube videos and browse the internet while playing the aforementioned game, and have done it before. Does your precious doitalleasily Xbox come with Photoshop, or an internet browser, or dozens of comprehensive chat programs, hmm? In two clicks, right after making this post I can be playing Team Fortress 2 or Call Of Duty 4 without having moved an inch.

 

The whole "herp derp PC gaming is a hassle and expensive" bullsh*t is played out as f*ck. The hassle is a one-time thing more or less unless you're really into it and a PC can be built for around $500 that's notably more powerful than both the Xbox and PS3 combined.

[Node]

 

I'd rather download a game and have it one click away for as long as I want and not be forced to move positions when I want to take a break from a game or even have to change disks from some clunky DVD drive, not to mention not having to pay for a half assed online experience, I get dedicated servers. I can go strait from playing a game to watching Youtube videos, hell I can watch Youtube videos and browse the internet while playing the aforementioned game, and have done it before. Does your precious doitalleasily Xbox come with Photoshop, or an internet browser, or dozens of comprehensive chat programs, hmm? In two clicks, right after making this post I can be playing Team Fortress 2 or Call Of Duty 4 without having moved an inch.

 

The whole "herp derp PC gaming is a hassle and expensive" bullsh*t is played out as f*ck. The hassle is a one-time thing more or less unless you're really into it and a PC can be built for around $500 that's notably more powerful than both the Xbox and PS3 combined.

 

 

Agreed. BTW do you have xfire because i can add you since i have COD 4 installed on my PC too. The we go and kick ass

[Ari Gold]

TBH i hate little kids who think that the Xbox 360 or PS3 is better than The PC gaming,

They are, for me. I like not having to worry about specs, drivers, hardware and the like. I like being able to buy game> put game in tray> play game. Just because one platform has more power doesn't inherently make it better, especially when all that power turns into a massive jerk off competition, as seen in all the signatures here consisting only of PC specs.

 

But what do I know, I'm just a kid who enjoys playing his Baby'sFirstGame console.

I'd rather download a game and have it one click away for as long as I want and not be forced to move positions when I want to take a break from a game or even have to change disks from some clunky DVD drive, not to mention not having to pay for a half assed online experience, I get dedicated servers, for free. I can go strait from playing a game to watching Youtube videos, hell I can watch Youtube videos and browse the internet while playing the aforementioned game, and have done it before. Does your precious doitalleasily Xbox come with Photoshop, or an internet browser, or dozens of comprehensive chat programs, hmm? In two clicks, right after making this post I can be playing Team Fortress 2 or Call Of Duty 4 without having moved an inch.

 

The whole "herp derp PC gaming is a hassle and expensive" bullsh*t is played out as f*ck. The hassle is a one-time thing more or less unless you're really into it and a PC can be built for around $500 that's notably more powerful than both the Xbox and PS3 combined.

Well, not everyone's a lazy geek.

 

I'd type more regarding laziness, but I'm going to get up and get a drink because I'm thirsty. Hell, after that, I might need to urinate in case my bladder feels a little full.

 

Of course, before I do this, I have to undertake a little activity called walking. Now, I'm in a bit of a hurry to walk since my mouth is dying for some hydrogen dichloride (H20), so I'll copy and paste a section from the Wikipedia article on walking.

 

 

Walking (also known as ambulation) is one of the main gaits of locomotion among legged animals, and is typically slower than running and other gaits. Walking is defined by an 'inverted pendulum' gait in which the body vaults over the stiff limb or limbs with each step. This applies regardless of the number of limbs - even arthropods with six, eight or more limbs.

 

If you want to read the full article, click here. It's really easy, trust me, you won't have to move an inch.

[Kimd41]

I believe next-gen (or next-next gen) graphics will be Vray powered. Vray2 with GPU rendering will be released this month (I think?) and I believe the GTX480/580 can render Vray at realtime but with artifacts. I wouldn't be suprised if in 2 years there would be GPU's powerfuk enought to render perfect Vray at 120+fps.

[Claude Speed.]

They really should make more games using procedural generation. That being said, I cant wait for Infinity.

[The-King]

 

unrelated babble

Now now now, we can't all be overcompensating, narcissistic, Slavic grease-balls in denial, now can we?

 

If it were so, I'd fear the world would implode as the extreme douche vector would cause an inter-dimensional rift and suck in vast quantities of the Milky Way.

[kaptainkoolkat]

TBH i hate little kids who think that the Xbox 360 or PS3 is better than The PC gaming, I mean ive got nothing against the xbox or ps3 im just saying that for a xbox or ps3 its what £250 but for a top of the range gaming PC its between £1000 - £2000. So tell me how is a £250 Console going to be better than a £1000 - £2000 proper gaming system ?

I'm a console person myself, but I have to agree.

 

I also hate when PC gamers go around calling console games stupid. (Though that assessment is accurate on some people, but those are the ones that get muted/blocked)

 

Both are equally as ignorant, in my honest opinion.

Most of them are stupid. If someone says I can't afford a gaming PC fine. If someone guys I don't want one because they suck and consoles have better graphics they're idiots.