car flip over even changed handling.dat

[leosin]

i got many problems with my GTA4, hope someone can help me to fix these.

i changed many car in GTA4 with patch 1.0.3, and they all work fine. but one day I can't start my GTA4, sometime it stop working before the rockstar logo, sometime it just stop working after GTA4 logo came out... few days later i find that some car make this problem happen, so i don't use these car. but another problem just come out, after changing the car, i will change the handling.dat file as well. but the car seems don't have any change with the handling.dat file ( i use the handling data from the maker ), and the car still flip over. it's very depressing.

i am using window 7 64 bit ultimate, and i tried many times to reinstall the GTA4 and use patch 1.0.0.4, but it don't work...

hope you guys know what's wrong with my gta4... thank you

[bodom]

i got many problems with my GTA4, hope someone can help me to fix these.

i changed many car in GTA4 with patch 1.0.3, and they all work fine. but one day I can't start my GTA4, sometime it stop working before the rockstar logo, sometime it just stop working after GTA4 logo came out... few days later i find that some car make this problem happen, so i don't use these car. but another problem just come out, after changing the car, i will change the handling.dat file as well. but the car seems don't have any change with the handling.dat file ( i use the handling data from the maker ), and the car still flip over. it's very depressing.

i am using window 7 64 bit ultimate, and i tried many times to reinstall the GTA4 and use patch 1.0.0.4, but it don't work...

hope you guys know what's wrong with my gta4... thank you

car flip because people cant do cars good like original cars...car mods are all too high suspensions and obiviously these cars flip over every time, look at all 4x4 car mods... sorry my bad english

[monster875.]

if the car flips even with the included handling, then the author is sh*t to make handling, he haven't done the center of mass very well

[solino80]

Let me understand something, monster875, do you say that the problem with the handling is because of the model itself, or only the handling file...?

 

If it's only a problem of handling line why nobody take an effort and correcting it. I really hate when installing new car, that it drives like the wind jumping like the hulk and flipping every turn.

I think a new thead needs to be open for this issue because the autors don't seems to care.

Edited December 21, 2010 by solino80

[bodom]

i found what make the flip of car -> center of mass.z, you must lower this value in negative, so example if u have -0.05 put -0.2

 

another example my cavalcade have this values 0.0 0.0 -0.3 < x, y, z ..... and with this 0.0 0.0 -0.62 i have no more flips

[solino80]

there are a lot of car mods out there and most of the beautiful ones have bad handling or just unsatisfied, for example i found a great replacement for my banshee but i think the author made it too fast and even rediculous but steady.

 

i want to make a thread that will contain every car mods and other versions of the handling for them. the reason is that i'm not good with understanding how to manage the handling for each car and only copy/paste what i required to do.

Edited December 21, 2010 by solino80

[bodom]

there are a lot of car mods out there and most of the beautiful ones have bad handling or just unsatisfied, for example i found a great replacement for my banshee but i think the author made it too fast and even rediculous but steady.

 

i want to make a thread that will contain every car mods and other versions of the handling for them. the reason is that i'm not good with understanding how to manage the handling for each car and only copy/paste what i required to do.

if u want i collaborate with u for make an handling for the best car mods out

[solino80]

sounds awesome. the main reason is to make, for each mod, a much more handlable driving. it will put to an end the problems with fault installation of great looking cars and everyone can post there opinion of how the realistic handling should be. this will also help the authors deal with the handling problems and unnecessary comments about the handling.

 

p.s in GTAIV there are some cars that have two near identical models in one file. is somebody tried it out, i mean creating a car that has spare parts and works. (not like a very bad hyundai mod )

[bodom]

i usually start with the original handling and i adjust it if there are some problems, like car flipping or drifting too much ect., i tried killatomate's handling, yes its realistic, but too fast for the game and not for every car is good imho

 

this is my modded car list and i already adjusted handlings

 

32 cars

 

Admiral = BMW 750i E38

Banshee = Dodge Viper srt-10 Coupe

Blista = Honda Civic Type R Mugen 2010

Bobcat =

Buccaneer =

Cavalcade = Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT8

Chavos =

Cognoscenti =

Comet = Porsche Carrera RS 1973

Contender = Dodge Ram SRT-10 2003

Coquette = Chevrolet Corvette ZO6

DF8-90 =

Dilettante =

Dukes = Dodge Charger RT 1969

Emperor = Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham 1985

Emperor2 = Dodge Monaco (rusty)

Esperanto =

Faction =

Feltzer = Mercedes Benz SLR McLaren Stirling Moss 2010

Feroci = Peugeot 406 Sedan

Fortune =

Futo =

Habanero = Volkswagen Touareg R50

Hakumai =

Huntley =

Ingot =

Infernus = Lamborghini Murcielago Coupe V12 6.2L

Intruder = Jaguar XFR 2010

Landstalker =

Lokus = Lexus GS 450

Manana =

Marbelle =

Merit =

Minivan =

Oracle = BMW 7 Series E66

Patriot =

Perennial =

Peyote =

Pinnacle = Nissan Sentra SE-R Spec V 2007

PMP600 = Chrysler 300c SRT8 2008

Premier = Chevrolet Lumina 2010

Presidente = Cadillac CTS-V 2009 v2.0

Primo =

Rancher =

Rebla = Mercedes-Benz ML63 AMG '09

Ruiner = Chevrolet Camaro Z28 '79

Sabre = Pontiac Firebird '70

Sabre2 =

Sabregt = Chevrolet Chevelle SS '70

Schafter = Mercedes Benz E63 AMG 2010 v2.0

Sentinel = BMW M3 E46

Solair =

Stallion =

Stratum =

Stretch =

Sultan = Subaru Legacy B4 gt`05

Sultanrs =

Supergt = Aston Martin DBS v 1.1

Uranus =

Turismo = Ferrari 458 Italia 2010 v2.0

Vigero = Dodge Dart '75

Vigero2 = Dodge Dart (rust)

Vincent =

Virgo =

Voodoo =

Washington =

Willard =

[solino80]

i will also try the killato-thing. by the way what will happen if i will not change the handling for the cars as the their authors advise...?

 

is it ok that i will publish in this thread the author's name and mod name here with the handling line for it? i want to make one good handling line for the car that i will edit by user's opinions

[solino80]

i think i was misunderstood, i meant that, i.e, i really loved Saleen s331 [Final] by Soot (showdown) but the handling is crap!

 

it's like a stone and the acceleration and speed is unreal.

 

this is the handling, can someone tell me how to fix it:

CONTENDER 2000.0 0.5 85 0.0 0.0 -1.25 0.268 5 0.37 1.0 250.0 0.45 0.7 0.8 35.0 2.0 1.9 13.5 0.5 0.4825 2.5 1.7 1.8 0.04 -0.12 0.0 0.5 1.0 1.0 0.7 1.5 0.0 110000 440010 1

 

now, does vehicles.ide also can cause troubles with the handling?.

 

in addition, Bodom, the list you added is nice but each one wants his own set of cars, so if you have a car that you checked and found a problem with the handling so post here a correction or even advise a much better one so anyone can use it.

Edited December 21, 2010 by solino80

[bodom]

 

i think i was misunderstood, i meant that, i.e, i really loved Saleen s331 [Final] by Soot (showdown) but the handling is crap!

 

it's like a stone and the acceleration and speed is unreal.

 

this is the handling, can someone tell me how to fix it:

CONTENDER  2000.0  0.5  85    0.0 0.0 -1.25          0.268 5  0.37  1.0 250.0 0.45 0.7 0.8  35.0            2.0 1.9 13.5 0.5  0.4825                2.5  1.7  1.8  0.04 -0.12 0.0  0.5              1.0 1.0 0.7 1.5        0.0  110000            440010          1       

 

now, does vehicles.ide also can cause troubles with the handling?.

 

in addition, Bodom, the list you added is nice but each one wants his own set of cars, so if you have a car that you checked and found a problem with the handling so post here a correction or even advise a much better one so anyone can use it.

here u go

 

CONTENDER 2500.0 7.0 85 0.0 0.0 -1.0 0.0 5 0.18 1.0 135.0 0.2 0.60 0.7 35.0 1.15 0.90 18.0 0.15 0.47 1.5 0.9 0.9 0.15 -0.20 0.0 0.5 1.0 1.0 0.8 1.5 0.0 25000 440000 0 0

 

the vehicles.ide didnt change the handling

Edited December 21, 2010 by bodom

[solino80]

ok, nice. it would really help to understand how did you fiigure it out what is wrong.

 

let's try another one: "Honda Civic Type R by Prizrak" (a real beauty, but the rear spoiler ruined it), drives "fast and (too) furious"

 

this is its handling:

1700.0 0.2 85 0.0 0.1 -0.18 0.5 6 0.30 2.0 330.0 0.9 0.50 0.7 30.0 1.60 1.50 17.0 0.19 0.47 1.6 1.3 1.3 0.12 -0.16 0.0 0.5 1.0 1.0 0.8 1.5 0.5 100000 440010 0 1

 

this what i mean, posting here a name and get from expert users a real driving expirience for it.

 

it will make things much easier for all of us to not mess everything up.

 

thank you in advance, Bodom, for your effort. ;-)

[bodom]

ok, nice. it would really help to understand how did you fiigure it out what is wrong.

 

let's try another one: "Honda Civic Type R by Prizrak" (a real beauty, but the rear spoiler ruined it), drives "fast and (too) furious"

 

this is its handling:

1700.0 0.2 85 0.0 0.1 -0.18 0.5 6 0.30 2.0 330.0 0.9 0.50 0.7 30.0 1.60 1.50 17.0 0.19 0.47 1.6 1.3 1.3 0.12 -0.16 0.0 0.5 1.0 1.0 0.8 1.5 0.5 100000 440010 0 1

 

this what i mean, posting here a name and get from expert users a real driving expirience for it.

 

it will make things much easier for all of us to not mess everything up.

 

thank you in advance, Bodom, for your effort. ;-)

this is almost the same car Honda Civic Type R Mugen 2010?

 

anyway try this handling

 

1400.0 5.0 85 0.0 0.0 -0.13 1.0 5 0.18 1.0 150.0 0.3 0.65 0.7 35.0 1.50 1.20 14.0 0.12 0.47 1.8 1.2 1.3 0.15 -0.14 0.0 0.5 1.0 1.0 0.5 1.5 0.0 15000 440000 1 0

 

this is original handling for blista and its very good for civic type r, no changes

 

download editIV and u understand how to mod handling

 

major things to change are the flip over, i said, its controlled by CentreOfMass.z (in this handling is -0.13), and the speed (150.0)

 

the suspension are important too 1.8 1.2 1.3 0.15 -0.14 0.0 0.5, but open handling with editiv and then tell me

[solino80]

Thanks, mate.

 

this is what i was looking for, a real nice and easy way to accomplish a (bit) realistic driving expirience in the game the way you and others see it.

 

i will be more than pleased if others have any more improvments for what we already posted here.

 

thanks again.

[bgh357]

when i work, if I know that tehe purpose are informatician, always always I f*ck him!

 

If he ask to me anything, I say <<not happy with that? you prefere a virus or a spy (mic) in your bread)?

 

f*ck YOU USA cabron!

[Trinition]

can anyone tell me if a handling.dat editor comes for gta 4?

[jpm1]

can anyone tell me if a handling.dat editor comes for gta 4?

http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=385566

[warhamster94]

Hi i have the same problem molded the cars, changed the handling file aslo used handling editor and messed with that and i still have the same problem could someone help me, its relay starting to annoy me.

 

thanks much appreciated.