What a wonderful world

[Andyzoot]

So I was just browsing Google News earlier and I stumbled across this small story. Absolutely shocked by what I read. This is an excerpt from the article

 

 

RELIGIOUS CULT KILLS FAMILY OF FOUR

 

The town of Glastonbury is in a state of shock today in the aftermath of one of the worst murders in it’s history. What is being described as ‘a religious cult’ by some locals is believed to have broken into the home of Mr Andrew Wells 32 and Mrs Claudia Wells 31 during the night of the 24th November and strangled them both. They also strangled two children, Tom 4 and Molly 6. There was one survivor, Andrew and Claudia’s oldest son Mark 16 who is now in police care.

 

The family have been described as being ‘bubbly’ and ‘friendly’ by their neighbours. They are all shocked by the events that have invaded their small and discreet neighbourhood. Sergeant Eric Miles of the Glastonbury Police issued a statement reading “We at the Glastonbury Police are deeply saddened by the news of the Wells family. Our condolences go out to their friends and family. This will be an incident that will affect the community for a  long time to come. The party responsible for this heinous crime are currently in custody and will suffer the full penalty of the law.”

 

The party that Sergeant Miles speaks of is believed to be a ‘cult’ that several locals appear to be aware of yet they tell us that the cult have never been a harm to anyone in the past and therefore the locals have never had a problem with them. One local who did not wish to be named told us “They’ve been practicing whatever they do for the last twenty years or so. They keep to themselves and we’ve never had a problem with them until tonight. It’s a real tragedy.” Despite the locals being aware of the cult, not much is known about them and details are scarce about the motive of the crime....

 

 

Your reaction? What do you think about this?

[Typhus]

Whoa, wait, Glastonbury. Is that in England? I know we have a festival by that name but I was unaware that it was an actual township.

[Brown Sugar]

what a bunch of stupid c*nts, these religious whackos and and nutcases in general deserve to rot

[nerner]

I'd need to know more about the cult and what its practices were before I jumped to any conclusions. One interesting thought is that Andew Wells was a character in Angel and Buffy, never watched either it just turned up when I googled his name, and he had the powers of animal control and summoning of demons. Maybe they killed him and his family for that? I know it may sound odd but stranger things have most certainly happened, especially with regards to cults.

 

Do you have a link to the original article?

 

@Typhus: It's a town, but it enjoys proximity to Wells, which is a city and it draws on that area for its paper sales too if I'm not mistaken.

Edited November 25, 2010 by nerner

[Adler]

Cult members must be really retarded or insane to join such a stupid thing. It's even more pathetic if they joined the cults just to belong.

[Typhus]

 

@Typhus: It's a town, but it enjoys proximity to Wells, which is a city and it draws on tat area for its paper sales too if I'm not mistaken.

So, it was in England.

Well then, there's a few possibilities.

 

1. An African religious movement that has a great deal of belief in what they do and bizarre customs brought to England from the old country. I think this is the most likely culprit. I have read several reports of African Christians killing their own kids to drive out demons, or seeing the devil in everyday people. They're superstitiuous, devout and willing to go to the knife drawer at the drop of a hat.

 

2. New age religious movement? Given the festival nearby, there's lots of vulnerable kids to prey on. A sly opportunist could indeed manipulate kids into killing for him using drugs and emotional coercement. Just as Manson did in the '60's.

 

3. Not a cult but a bunch of kids involved in a certain 'scene'. Hardcore metal heads who think they're Satanists? Twilight obsessed vampire hunters? Understand that I am not attacking those films or musical genres. But screwed up people use anything to justify what they do.

 

Those are the main possibilities as I see it. Assuming this actually happened. I had a quick search on Google but found nothing

Edited November 25, 2010 by Typhus

[Oddsock]

What do I think? I think this sh*t doesn't belong in the OT section because it's pointless sensational bullsh*t. I'm really sorry and upset that that happened, but are we seriously going to post every upsetting story we find and get all pissy about it for X number of pages until the next one pops up?

 

Seriously, what the hell?

[Typhus]

What do I think? I think this sh*t doesn't belong in the OT section because it's pointless sensational bullsh*t. I'm really sorry and upset that that happened, but are we seriously going to post every upsetting story we find and get all pissy about it for X number of pages until the next one pops up?

 

Seriously, what the hell?

Disagree completely. Killer cults are very interesting indeed, if he was posting news of some banal street mugging your point would be more valid. But crazy cult murders are a great discussion point because often the motives are often completely absurd.

[nerner]

 

What do I think? I think this sh*t doesn't belong in the OT section because it's pointless sensational bullsh*t. I'm really sorry and upset that that happened, but are we seriously going to post every upsetting story we find and get all pissy about it for X number of pages until the next one pops up?

 

Seriously, what the hell?

People like gta3kuruma being outraged was not the reason for the guy creating the topic. He was encouraging impartial analysis and debate as to why it happened, but because it involves religion it must be sensasionalist. Well I can't see any evidence of that anywhere.

 

And you're a fine one to talk about sensasionalism.

 

@Typhus again: I was wrong, the mention of the Glastonbury Police Department threw me, so instead I believe the article is talking about Glastonbury, USA.

[Robinski]

Without a source, I'm just going to assume this is a Hot Fuzz reference.

 

Also the fact that I couldn't find that article on Google news, even with quoted searches.

[Mati]

What the f**k is happening with this world? I can´t believe that such things still happen.

[Rebel]

 

Without a source, I'm just going to assume this is a Hot Fuzz reference.

 

Also the fact that I couldn't find that article on Google news, even with quoted searches.

First thing that popped into my head to. Just goes to show what leaving a cult for a long time can eventually lead to human sacrifices

[Tyler]

I am the cult of personality. What do you think about that one Jackie?

[Brown Sugar]

What do I think? I think this sh*t doesn't belong in the OT section because it's pointless sensational bullsh*t. I'm really sorry and upset that that happened, but are we seriously going to post every upsetting story we find and get all pissy about it for X number of pages until the next one pops up?

 

Seriously, what the hell?

People like gta3kuruma being outraged was not the reason for the guy creating the topic. He was encouraging impartial analysis and debate as to why it happened, but because it involves religion it must be sensasionalist. Well I can't see any evidence of that anywhere.

 

And you're a fine one to talk about sensasionalism.

 

@Typhus again: I was wrong, the mention of the Glastonbury Police Department threw me, so instead I believe the article is talking about Glastonbury, USA.

I'm just pissed off because there are people stupid enough to do this but I'd agree with typhus and say they were a bunch of goth kids that did it.

[BrownBear]

I remember a while back a body of a young boy popped up in the Thames with all it's limbs hacked off.

They believed that was related to cult or Voodoo ceremonies I think.

[Creed Bratton]

I'm not surprised by anything religious nuts do these days. This isn't even half as bad as what Muslim extremists are doing every day.

[Kevin...]

I'm not surprised by anything religious nuts do these days. This isn't even half as bad as what Muslim extremists are doing every day.

Or catholics of years before.

 

[agent17]

In the eyes of gods everything is just.

 

It is just an excuse for people to do whatever they see fit.

 

We have cultists around where I live, it is not uncommon for them to have rituals at night in the woods or local cemeteries. Burnings, animal sacrifices, voodoo, and the like are not uncommon practices for them. Although I don't think they have gone as far as murder, at least not in many years.

[makeshyft]

 

I'm not surprised by anything religious nuts do these days. This isn't even half as bad as what Muslim extremists are doing every day.

Or catholics of years before.

Yeah, but can you really compare the way certain people behaved half a millennia ago, to the way certain people behave today? Not really. Everything needs to be contextualised before comparisons are made.

[dog_day_sunrise]

 

I remember a while back a body of a young boy popped up in the Thames with all it's limbs hacked off.

They believed that was related to cult or Voodoo ceremonies I think.

Never found the people who did that. Thought to be East African, where suspicion and witchcraft still rules over common sense.

Oh, and there's been no quadruple murder in Glastonbury. Certainly, nothing's showing up on any of the RSS feeds I've got whirring away on my desktop.

 

 

I'm not surprised by anything religious nuts do these days. This isn't even half as bad as what Muslim extremists are doing every day.

Or catholics of years before.

Yeah, but can you really compare the way certain people behaved half a millennia ago, to the way certain people behave today? Not really. Everything needs to be contextualised before comparisons are made.

Of course you can't. Not every society has undergone the transformations that many Western nations have over the last half-millennium.

You can try to compare them all you want, though whether it's a rational comparison in a completely different issue. As you say, societies can only be judged in their context and comparing Western society with other- some would say "less developed"- societies is pretty irrational.

Edited November 26, 2010 by dog_day_sunrise

[BrownBear]

I'm not surprised by anything religious nuts do these days. This isn't even half as bad as what Muslim extremists are doing every day.

Or catholics of years before.

Yeah, but can you really compare the way certain people behaved half a millennia ago, to the way certain people behave today? Not really. Everything needs to be contextualised before comparisons are made.

The IRA were Catholic and they were at their height in the 1970s.

[dog_day_sunrise]

I'm not surprised by anything religious nuts do these days. This isn't even half as bad as what Muslim extremists are doing every day.

Or catholics of years before.

Yeah, but can you really compare the way certain people behaved half a millennia ago, to the way certain people behave today? Not really. Everything needs to be contextualised before comparisons are made.

The IRA were Catholic and they were at their height in the 1970s.

Yes, but the "Troubles" weren't religious, they were political. It's a classic case of people using religious motivation as a disguise for political actions. Interestingly, both protestants and catholics killed nearly as many of their own kind as they did the other. There is a stark difference between religiously sanctioned and motivated aggression, and those who use religion as a disguise for a political agenda.

 

 

Compare and contrast, for example, the Crusades, with The Troubles.

[BrownBear]

Yeah, I see what you mean, point retracted.

[Andyzoot]

Wow. Forgot I made this topic until I just happened to check if there were any advances in this case. Found this article. Again, it's only an excerpt. I took out some of the stuff that wasn't important. As they say, 'the plot thickens'. I hope this kid doesn't turn into the next Madeleine McCann...

 

 

‘CULT KILLING’ SURVIVOR GOES MISSING

 

Mark Wells 16, who just a few days ago was the survivor of the grotesque murder of his family which has been dubbed in some media outlets as ‘The Glastonbury Cult Killing’ has gone missing. Mark had been let out of police care just a couple days ago so that he could be looked after by his grandparents, Rachael Porter 65 and Clive Porter 66.

 

The murder of his family has left a stain on Glastonbury. The family were all strangled to death by a religious cult led by Ted and Shirley Stein on the night of 24th November. The victims included two young children aged 4 and 6. All twenty one of the cult members are in police custody and believed to be ‘psychologically unstable’. They are set to appear in court in a matter of weeks.

 

However the disappearance of Mark Wells has become a top priority for the local police as some feel that Mark may be suffering mentally after the murder of his family and are worried for his safety.

 

“If you have any information concerning the disappearance of Mark Wells. Please contact the Glastonbury Police Station (01458 801801)”

 

Your reaction? What do you think about this?

 

 

[Kevin...]

After that much psychological and emotional trauma, I wouldn't be surprised if he was out wandering the nearby world for the tallest bridges and buildings in the hopes of a quick end. I hope that isn't the case but its only the most logical conclusion.

[meta187]

After that much psychological and emotional trauma, I wouldn't be surprised if he was out wandering the nearby world for the tallest bridges and buildings in the hopes of a quick end. I hope that isn't the case but its only the most logical conclusion.

Or maybe some unnamed risidual members wanted to see the completion of the family sacrifice through to the end.

 

The 21 in custody may not be the only ones participating but that seems like some movie bullsh*t. Either outcome would be sad and awful just the same.

 

Like nerner, I would like to know more about the cult itself and the motivations behind all of this. Keep us posted.

[dog_day_sunrise]

After that much psychological and emotional trauma, I wouldn't be surprised if he was out wandering the nearby world for the tallest bridges and buildings in the hopes of a quick end. I hope that isn't the case but its only the most logical conclusion.

Or maybe some unnamed risidual members wanted to see the completion of the family sacrifice through to the end.

 

The 21 in custody may not be the only ones participating but that seems like some movie bullsh*t. Either outcome would be sad and awful just the same.

 

Like nerner, I would like to know more about the cult itself and the motivations behind all of this. Keep us posted.

Or perhaps, just perhaps...

The entire thing is fake.

 

A search of UK based news agencies for the names in question brings about nothing

[nerner]

After that much psychological and emotional trauma, I wouldn't be surprised if he was out wandering the nearby world for the tallest bridges and buildings in the hopes of a quick end. I hope that isn't the case but its only the most logical conclusion.

Or maybe some unnamed risidual members wanted to see the completion of the family sacrifice through to the end.

 

The 21 in custody may not be the only ones participating but that seems like some movie bullsh*t. Either outcome would be sad and awful just the same.

 

Like nerner, I would like to know more about the cult itself and the motivations behind all of this. Keep us posted.

Or perhaps, just perhaps...

The entire thing is fake.

 

A search of UK based news agencies for the names in question brings about nothing

You could have at least played along.

 

A 123people search for Clive Porter does indeed bring up a Glastonbury area address.

[Andyzoot]

This whole Glastonbury business has been talked alot around my area recently because there was a couple of guys murdered 2 nights ago in similar circumstances to the Glastonbury deaths. Did a bit of Online snooping again and found this story in Weston Super Mare. Here's a bit of the story. Take a look.

 

 

UPHILL MURDER: WORK OF SERIAL KILLERS?

 

Weston Super Mare police were ‘shocked and worried’ yesterday after investigating the murder of a young schoolteacher, Cynthia Harrell 23, outside her home in Uphill. Cynthia is believed to have been leaving her house for work when she was attacked and strangled to death. Cynthia is said to have a wound on the back of her head which suggests she was struck over the back of the head or fell on it. Police described her windpipe as being literally ‘crushed’. The area was taped off yesterday with the police launching a full investigation.

 

However what is concerning police most is that there may be a link to another crime that happened just a week ago. The ‘Glastonbury Cult Killing’ reached front page news on major newspapers last week and the method of killing matches that of the Glastonbury murder and it is now believed there may be a link between the two. Not only that but adding to the link theory is the revelation that another murder under similar circumstances happened in Wedmore three days ago.

 

When asked about this link, the police stated they had no comment to make . We will be providing more information on this matter as we receive it.

 

Sounds messed up, huh? What do you think?

 

 

[Brad]

I want to know why there's an extra space after 'make .' and why when quoting the age of someone it doesn't go like 'name, (age)' but instead 'name (age),'.

 

Glastonbury journalists are shoddy, eh!?