GTA V unlikely until 2012 - Analyst

[Finn 7 five 11]

Couldn't this have gone into your reveal and release thread? just thought i would ask, since it seems to have turned into your reveal and release thread.

 

 

Don't forget the Wii. RAGE on the Wii exists and a Wii exclusive GTA would be awesome.

 

Some things that suck about the wii

 

1. I wasted my money on it before buying a ps3

2. Controls are crummy for quite a few games and there are like 5 different controllers

3. WIi's graphics are awful compared to PS3/xbox/pc

4. A gta on the wii would not be awesome, it would be ok, but it would be a step back in the gta gaming world.

Edited November 28, 2010 by finn4life

[maxopower]

Couldn't this have gone into your reveal and release thread? just thought i would ask, since it seems to have turned into your reveal and release thread.

 

 

Don't forget the Wii. RAGE on the Wii exists and a Wii exclusive GTA would be awesome.

 

Some things that suck about the wii

 

1. I wasted my money on it before buying a ps3

2. Controls are crummy for quite a few games and there are like 5 different controllers

3. WIi's graphics are awful compared to PS3/xbox/pc

4. A gta on the wii would not be awesome, it would be ok, but it would be a step back in the gta gaming world.

Belive me, I'm fully awar of the irony... I don't know what I was thinking.

 

 

And A Wii exclusive GTA is not necessarily a bad Idea, just look at Chinatown Wars, who would have thought a touchpad GTA would ever be great.

[Untame Snail]

Only posting to be the 105,000th reply in the GTA V secion.

 

 

 

Also, I believe all this stuff. It'll take a while.

[Capricornus]

Yeah, i have always felt that 2012 is a more realistic release year for GTA V. We'll see. I'm going with April 2012.

[Finn 7 five 11]

 

Hi, but, this new gta will be good adapted for pc, or it will be full of bugs like gta IV ?

 

How are we supposed to know?

 

Actually i changed my mind on the GTA for wii thing, graphics are not everything for me, i still like playing super old school games despite the terrible graphics, so a GTA for wii wouldn't be such a bad idea, but Wii is more of a family console i have found and most people who own one would be families and i am not too sure that GTA would be a big seller because of that (but then again i got gta 3 when i was 10).

Main reason i rejected the idea so much in the first place is because i am a serious wii hater having owned one, so basically i was being a troll.

[mrclanky]

Yeah, i have always felt that 2012 is a more realistic release year for GTA V. We'll see. I'm going with April 2012.

Whats the point. We're all gunna die. ;D Edited November 29, 2010 by mrclanky

[Phatgordo13]

Hi, but, this new gta will be good adapted for pc, or it will be full of bugs like gta IV ?

 

How are we supposed to know?

 

Actually i changed my mind on the GTA for wii thing, graphics are not everything for me, i still like playing super old school games despite the terrible graphics, so a GTA for wii wouldn't be such a bad idea, but Wii is more of a family console i have found and most people who own one would be families and i am not too sure that GTA would be a big seller because of that (but then again i got gta 3 when i was 10).

Main reason i rejected the idea so much in the first place is because i am a serious wii hater having owned one, so basically i was being a troll.

While youre right about the Wii being a family oriented game console, thats about it. GTA IV and the DLCs didnt even make it to the Wii, and when asked about GTA IV coming to Wii, Rockstar reps, laughed.

 

I would never say GTA might not be ported to the Wii at a later time, as the GTA III trilogy still may, I can almost guarantee with full certainty, that Rockstar would not do a Wii exclusive.

 

It has nothing to do with the age of the player, as kids at 10 years old arent supposed to be playing GTA anyways, but the market they would be going into. The Wii is aimed for small children, middle aged women, and seniors. What part of that sounds GTA? The target market for GTA is Men 18-25, which is the bulk of the gaming community, specifically PS3/XBox 360 owners.

 

 

[jnzooger]

Hi, but, this new gta will be good adapted for pc, or it will be full of bugs like gta IV ?

 

How are we supposed to know?

 

Actually i changed my mind on the GTA for wii thing, graphics are not everything for me, i still like playing super old school games despite the terrible graphics, so a GTA for wii wouldn't be such a bad idea, but Wii is more of a family console i have found and most people who own one would be families and i am not too sure that GTA would be a big seller because of that (but then again i got gta 3 when i was 10).

Main reason i rejected the idea so much in the first place is because i am a serious wii hater having owned one, so basically i was being a troll.

While youre right about the Wii being a family oriented game console, thats about it. GTA IV and the DLCs didnt even make it to the Wii, and when asked about GTA IV coming to Wii, Rockstar reps, laughed.

 

I would never say GTA might not be ported to the Wii at a later time, as the GTA III trilogy still may, I can almost guarantee with full certainty, that Rockstar would not do a Wii exclusive.

 

It has nothing to do with the age of the player, as kids at 10 years old arent supposed to be playing GTA anyways, but the market they would be going into. The Wii is aimed for small children, middle aged women, and seniors. What part of that sounds GTA? The target market for GTA is Men 18-25, which is the bulk of the gaming community, specifically PS3/XBox 360 owners.

Consoles aren't targeted at anyone, only the software. This is a common fallacy when it comes to Nintendo consoles. Nintendo wants EVERYONE to have a Wii, not just the groups you said. That is the sole reason they enthusiastically embraced Resident Evil on the Gamecube.

 

The problem is, third parties see the Nintendo consoles as for kids because third parties only develop for kids on it. Its a self deprecating spiral. The only thing that would pull them out of it is if Nintendo themselves made some M rated games, which isn't likely to happen because they aren't in that business as a software developer.

[Phatgordo13]

Hi, but, this new gta will be good adapted for pc, or it will be full of bugs like gta IV ?

 

How are we supposed to know?

 

Actually i changed my mind on the GTA for wii thing, graphics are not everything for me, i still like playing super old school games despite the terrible graphics, so a GTA for wii wouldn't be such a bad idea, but Wii is more of a family console i have found and most people who own one would be families and i am not too sure that GTA would be a big seller because of that (but then again i got gta 3 when i was 10).

Main reason i rejected the idea so much in the first place is because i am a serious wii hater having owned one, so basically i was being a troll.

While youre right about the Wii being a family oriented game console, thats about it. GTA IV and the DLCs didnt even make it to the Wii, and when asked about GTA IV coming to Wii, Rockstar reps, laughed.

 

I would never say GTA might not be ported to the Wii at a later time, as the GTA III trilogy still may, I can almost guarantee with full certainty, that Rockstar would not do a Wii exclusive.

 

It has nothing to do with the age of the player, as kids at 10 years old arent supposed to be playing GTA anyways, but the market they would be going into. The Wii is aimed for small children, middle aged women, and seniors. What part of that sounds GTA? The target market for GTA is Men 18-25, which is the bulk of the gaming community, specifically PS3/XBox 360 owners.

Consoles aren't targeted at anyone, only the software. This is a common fallacy when it comes to Nintendo consoles. Nintendo wants EVERYONE to have a Wii, not just the groups you said. That is the sole reason they enthusiastically embraced Resident Evil on the Gamecube.

 

The problem is, third parties see the Nintendo consoles as for kids because third parties only develop for kids on it. Its a self deprecating spiral. The only thing that would pull them out of it is if Nintendo themselves made some M rated games, which isn't likely to happen because they aren't in that business as a software developer.

I have a hard time buying that because if Nintendo WANTED to reach that market they would offer incentives to the game developers behind the M rated titles.

 

Dont forget. Wii sold more consoles than anyone. Theyre not losing any sleep....or money over it.

[jnzooger]

I have a hard time buying that because if Nintendo WANTED to reach that market they would offer incentives to the game developers behind the M rated titles.

 

Dont forget. Wii sold more consoles than anyone. Theyre not losing any sleep....or money over it.

Quite frankly, that is the main problem. Nintendo does want all the sales they can get, and the fact that its the best selling console means they only worry about their games right now.

 

Don't forget that when Chinatown Wars came out, they were making press releases and stuff saying how they love to work with R*, and also don't forget that both Bully and Manhunt 2 were on the Wii.

[Phatgordo13]

 

Don't forget that when Chinatown Wars came out, they were making press releases and stuff saying how they love to work with R*, and also don't forget that both Bully and Manhunt 2 were on the Wii.

Well you could tickle my balls all you want with pretty words.

 

 

 

.....But

 

 

 

 

Dollars makes Cents.

 

 

 

 

Yah Dig?

[Emm Ell]

I haven't read every post in this thread, but I will say this.

 

1. What is the purpose of these "analysts" in respect to gaming companies and their releases? Seems like a bit of a BS job to be honest.

Also, what credentials do these guys have?

 

and

 

2. T2 has been known to delay, or not, in order to balance their finances, and they are likely to release a couple more big games before we see the next GTA. I highly doubt GTA would be released in the same quarter, maybe even half, as other games they are banking on.

[jnzooger]

I haven't read every post in this thread, but I will say this.

 

1. What is the purpose of these "analysts" in respect to gaming companies and their releases? Seems like a bit of a BS job to be honest.

Also, what credentials do these guys have?

 

and

 

2. T2 has been known to delay, or not, in order to balance their finances, and they are likely to release a couple more big games before we see the next GTA. I highly doubt GTA would be released in the same quarter, maybe even half, as other games they are banking on.

An analyst tells investors what to do based on "research" they have done. So this guy saying GTA V is unlikely til 2012 is telling people not to invest in R* til 2012.

 

Usually they have like MBAs and stuff, but yeah, they are just glorified crystal ball readers.

[Phatgordo13]

I haven't read every post in this thread, but I will say this.

 

1. What is the purpose of these "analysts" in respect to gaming companies and their releases? Seems like a bit of a BS job to be honest.

Also, what credentials do these guys have?

 

and

 

2. T2 has been known to delay, or not, in order to balance their finances, and they are likely to release a couple more big games before we see the next GTA. I highly doubt GTA would be released in the same quarter, maybe even half, as other games they are banking on.

An analyst tells investors what to do based on "research" they have done. So this guy saying GTA V is unlikely til 2012 is telling people not to invest in R* til 2012.

 

Usually they have like MBAs and stuff, but yeah, they are just glorified crystal ball readers.

Glorified crystal ball readers? lol Not exactly. They certainly seem to just be pulling information out of thin air, but I assure you it takes a long time and a lot of training and schooling to become quite proficient in what they do.

 

Every industry has analysts. The high paid cats work for companies that want to know what to expect in the future from the market, and the competition. So yes, maybe it is a bit of crystal ball reading at times, and while they may not be able to foresee the future, they tend to be pretty close.

 

The guys we see on the gaming websites tend to be the mid level guys who have experience in the business world. Being able to read and react to things happening in the foreseeable future, in the business world, is the difference between sink or swim.

 

I dunno if gaming analysts carry MBAs, but in any event, an MBA is no small task. Youre damn near guaranteed a six figure salary in any line of work you do with an MBA.

[jnzooger]

I haven't read every post in this thread, but I will say this.

 

1. What is the purpose of these "analysts" in respect to gaming companies and their releases? Seems like a bit of a BS job to be honest.

Also, what credentials do these guys have?

 

and

 

2. T2 has been known to delay, or not, in order to balance their finances, and they are likely to release a couple more big games before we see the next GTA. I highly doubt GTA would be released in the same quarter, maybe even half, as other games they are banking on.

An analyst tells investors what to do based on "research" they have done. So this guy saying GTA V is unlikely til 2012 is telling people not to invest in R* til 2012.

 

Usually they have like MBAs and stuff, but yeah, they are just glorified crystal ball readers.

Glorified crystal ball readers? lol Not exactly. They certainly seem to just be pulling information out of thin air, but I assure you it takes a long time and a lot of training and schooling to become quite proficient in what they do.

 

Every industry has analysts. The high paid cats work for companies that want to know what to expect in the future from the market, and the competition. So yes, maybe it is a bit of crystal ball reading at times, and while they may not be able to foresee the future, they tend to be pretty close.

 

The guys we see on the gaming websites tend to be the mid level guys who have experience in the business world. Being able to read and react to things happening in the foreseeable future, in the business world, is the difference between sink or swim.

 

I dunno if gaming analysts carry MBAs, but in any event, an MBA is no small task. Youre damn near guaranteed a six figure salary in any line of work you do with an MBA.

Crystal ball readers have their training too. It takes skill to be a good lier.

 

And yeah, I know how hard it is to get an MBA, my mother has one. (And she's unemployed right now.)

[Phatgordo13]

I haven't read every post in this thread, but I will say this.

 

1. What is the purpose of these "analysts" in respect to gaming companies and their releases? Seems like a bit of a BS job to be honest.

Also, what credentials do these guys have?

 

and

 

2. T2 has been known to delay, or not, in order to balance their finances, and they are likely to release a couple more big games before we see the next GTA. I highly doubt GTA would be released in the same quarter, maybe even half, as other games they are banking on.

An analyst tells investors what to do based on "research" they have done. So this guy saying GTA V is unlikely til 2012 is telling people not to invest in R* til 2012.

 

Usually they have like MBAs and stuff, but yeah, they are just glorified crystal ball readers.

Glorified crystal ball readers? lol Not exactly. They certainly seem to just be pulling information out of thin air, but I assure you it takes a long time and a lot of training and schooling to become quite proficient in what they do.

 

Every industry has analysts. The high paid cats work for companies that want to know what to expect in the future from the market, and the competition. So yes, maybe it is a bit of crystal ball reading at times, and while they may not be able to foresee the future, they tend to be pretty close.

 

The guys we see on the gaming websites tend to be the mid level guys who have experience in the business world. Being able to read and react to things happening in the foreseeable future, in the business world, is the difference between sink or swim.

 

I dunno if gaming analysts carry MBAs, but in any event, an MBA is no small task. Youre damn near guaranteed a six figure salary in any line of work you do with an MBA.

Crystal ball readers have their training too. It takes skill to be a good lier.

 

And yeah, I know how hard it is to get an MBA, my mother has one. (And she's unemployed right now.)

True enough, but in this business world, bull sh*t only goes so far. Its not just an analysts job to predict the future, but to be RIGHT. Big difference to just spewing out aimless non sense.

 

 

A lot of people are unemployed right now, and thats a whooooole other debate, but your mother is sitting much more comfortable then most looking for work. Besides, thats got to be one hell of an unemployment check.

[jnzooger]

Not really, she was in banking and just got her MBA recently.

 

And as for detecting trends, when it comes to GTA, I think I'm much more qualified than any analyst. Read any of my posts on the subject of GTA's parallels to see what I mean.

[SheHePaedo]

The question is will the PC version follow? Still waiting for PC RDR!

[Phatgordo13]

Not really, she was in banking and just got her MBA recently.

 

And as for detecting trends, when it comes to GTA, I think I'm much more qualified than any analyst. Read any of my posts on the subject of GTA's parallels to see what I mean.

It honestly has less to do with knowledge of gaming and familiarity with games and consoles and a lot more with understanding the micro/macro economics of the industry, market trends, fiscal quarters, etc. You can know more about GTA than anyone on the planet, and really doesnt matter in the business meeting room.

[Jabalous]

The analysts kept saying GTA V will release by the end of 2009 since the release of IV, but nothing happened, then they changed their mind to 2010 and nothing happened. They will keep repeating the same stuff with changing the year until they get it right. It's almost like trial and error.

 

I did some correct predictions for previous releases from Rockstar, not just the release dates, but also regarding the production process such as the percentage of completion of a certain project. So, I wouldn't get surprised If my predictions regarding GTA V's release date turned out to be true.

[jnzooger]

Not really, she was in banking and just got her MBA recently.

 

And as for detecting trends, when it comes to GTA, I think I'm much more qualified than any analyst. Read any of my posts on the subject of GTA's parallels to see what I mean.

It honestly has less to do with knowledge of gaming and familiarity with games and consoles and a lot more with understanding the micro/macro economics of the industry, market trends, fiscal quarters, etc. You can know more about GTA than anyone on the planet, and really doesnt matter in the business meeting room.

I also know a ton about economics, but when these analyst talk about GTA, they aren't talking about board room stuff. They should be saying Major AAA title from Take2 interactive if they were doing it right.

[Phatgordo13]

Not really, she was in banking and just got her MBA recently.

 

And as for detecting trends, when it comes to GTA, I think I'm much more qualified than any analyst. Read any of my posts on the subject of GTA's parallels to see what I mean.

It honestly has less to do with knowledge of gaming and familiarity with games and consoles and a lot more with understanding the micro/macro economics of the industry, market trends, fiscal quarters, etc. You can know more about GTA than anyone on the planet, and really doesnt matter in the business meeting room.

I also know a ton about economics, but when these analyst talk about GTA, they aren't talking about board room stuff. They should be saying Major AAA title from Take2 interactive if they were doing it right.

Fair enough. Im sure they would rather see a resume filled with years of experience in the business world, instead of speculation on the GTAForums.

 

I suppose you're right though. Rockstar North develops the GTAs, which is a part of Rockstar Games, which is owned by Take Two. Oy Vay. As far as I'm aware though its the Houser's handeling most of the business ends of things with Take Two writing/cashing the checks.

[CryptReaperDorian]

The analysts kept saying GTA V will release by the end of 2009 since the release of IV, but nothing happened, then they changed their mind to 2010 and nothing happened. They will keep repeating the same stuff with changing the year until they get it right. It's almost like trial and error.

After GTA IV was released, I thought the next GTA would come out in 2010. Technically, the next GTA did come out in 2009 along with two expansions for GTA IV, but we're talking about the "large scale GTAs". When it comes to this type of GTA, I feel pity for anybody that believed it was going to come out in 2009. This is not to mention that I barely thought about the size of GTA IV's DLCs until a few months after GTA IV's release. I really don't know what to think anymore when it's nearly 2011 along with R* working on three confirmed titles (one is mostly publishing and marketing though).

[SheHePaedo]

If we do get GTA V in 2012 will we get another in this generation? I expect new consoles will launch by 2015.....

[crackdawg]

If we do get GTA V in 2012 will we get another in this generation? I expect new consoles will launch by 2015.....

IV doesn't even use the SPEs on PS3, they don't need new hardware.

 

2012 just makes sense, game companies are dictated by marketing..

[NCONiall]

 

If we do get GTA V in 2012 will we get another in this generation? I expect new consoles will launch by 2015.....

Sony releases a new PlayStation every 6 years, it's probably coincidence but:

 

PS1 - 1994

PS2 - 2000

PS3 - 2006

 

The next would be 2012 but we're certainly not getting a PS4 in 2012, 2015 does sound right for new consoles.

Edited December 1, 2010 by NCONiall

[Emm Ell]

If we do get GTA V in 2012 will we get another in this generation? I expect new consoles will launch by 2015.....

I could see maybe a follow-up or 2, but I doubt we'd get a "GTA VI" on this generation, but who knows. Taking into account DLC will probably be a focus too once the game's released, they may not have time. But to be honest I hope the next GTA I can play into the next generation

[SheHePaedo]

If we do get GTA V in 2012 will we get another in this generation? I expect new consoles will launch by 2015.....

I could see maybe a follow-up or 2, but I doubt we'd get a "GTA VI" on this generation, but who knows. Taking into account DLC will probably be a focus too once the game's released, they may not have time. But to be honest I hope the next GTA I can play into the next generation

Ah yes. Maybe if GTA V was coming out in 2012. We would get a new islands and missions DLC in 2013, 2014, 2015 to tide us over until the next gen? That would be a cool idea.

[maxopower]

If we do get GTA V in 2012 will we get another in this generation? I expect new consoles will launch by 2015.....

Sony releases a new PlayStation every 6 years, it's probably coincidence but:

 

PS1 - 1994

PS2 - 2000

PS3 - 2006

 

The next would be 2012 but we're certainly not getting a PS4 in 2012, 2015 does sound right for new consoles.

Yes, but unlike the previous gens, Sony has clearly stated that this gen has a 10 years lifespan.

[NinjaWJ]

well it doesn't take an analyst to know this....