Cheap PC to run Gta IV High Settings?!

[LIVE_SlimSlugga713]

hey guys i heard if i get a bottom psu case it will limit reach. but then some said it will only limit reach if i want to hid it, well i dnt care about hiding the psu cord. am i ok then?

[Stinky12]

 

everything is ok but i recommended intel i5 750 for you

AMD is the best way to go right now. Price/Performance is unbeatable for the Phenoms II X4 and X6 1055T.

As cheap as the Phenom II X6s are, the performance of AMD sucks, if you ask me.

 

1. In bechmark tests, the Phenom II X6 can't even beat out the Core i5 750, so don't even bother with the i7s

2. A 6-Core Processor that has 6MB of L3 Cache is stupid if you ask me. The 6 core i7 970 and 980X has 12 MB of L3 cache, double the 1090T

3. AMD has no hyperthreading, so they are either 4 threads or 6 threads. Intel does, so its i7s have 8 threads or 12 threads, which easily own AMD's CPUs

 

AMD might be cheap, but in my opinion, it's the same as buying 250 bucks of sh*t.

 

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/191?vs=146

Even higher clocked Athlon II X4 CPUs without any L3 Cache can max out all games without problems and guarantuee high FPS also in GTA IV.

 

So i tam afraid you see the whole thing from the point of an Intel Fanboy.

 

Even The Core i7 950 which is extremely expensive (3x more than the 1090T?) can´t really runaway from it performancewise. Especially in Games the difference can be almost ignored.

 

Intel Corei7 950 and Phenom II X6 1090T Comparison

 

Sure if you have tons of money you should go with Intel. But if not, there is no reason for spending 3x that account for having some minor FPS increases.

 

AMD fanboi is obvious...

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/109?vs=146

 

 

 

@OP, you can get extension cables if your routing it, it's good to route so it does not block air flow.

[Ron Taboga]

AMD fanboi is obvious...

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/109?vs=146

 

 

 

I don´t see anything except some game benchmarks where the i5 would be better than the 1090T. And even there it doesn´t really fall much into count. The 1090T is faster in 70% of the cases. You should notice that some benchmarks are marked with the "LOWER IS BETTER" text addition.

 

In multithreaded applications the 1090T is far before the i5. And Hyperthreading is more a placebo than a real performance plus. Real Core has much more efficency.

[LIVE_SlimSlugga713]

ok. well sorry for being such a newbie but how im suppose to get this Mother Board in this PC Case . like do i have to cut holes r somthing for the MoBo? or this case not for this motherboard?

[IronHide-AW]

 

hey guys i heard if i get a bottom psu case it will limit reach. but then some said it will only limit reach if i want to hid it, well i dnt care about hiding the psu cord. am i ok then?

Depends on the MB and the case. You can also get an extension to lengthen the PSU to MB connection so you don't have to worry about it at all and have maximum flexibility with what you actually want to purchase.

 

For example see part 6171779 on Frys.com

 

 

...how im suppose to get this Mother Board in this PC Case .

 

They're both ATX. That is a standard and means they're compatible, i.e screw holes will exist and line-up. It's a mid-tower case so it'll be tighter inside but again, because they're both ATX (not mini/micro) it should fit just fine.

Edited November 27, 2010 by IronHide-AW

[YankeesPwnMets]

everything is ok but i recommended intel i5 750 for you

AMD is the best way to go right now. Price/Performance is unbeatable for the Phenoms II X4 and X6 1055T.

As cheap as the Phenom II X6s are, the performance of AMD sucks, if you ask me.

 

1. In bechmark tests, the Phenom II X6 can't even beat out the Core i5 750, so don't even bother with the i7s

2. A 6-Core Processor that has 6MB of L3 Cache is stupid if you ask me. The 6 core i7 970 and 980X has 12 MB of L3 cache, double the 1090T

3. AMD has no hyperthreading, so they are either 4 threads or 6 threads. Intel does, so its i7s have 8 threads or 12 threads, which easily own AMD's CPUs

 

AMD might be cheap, but in my opinion, it's the same as buying 250 bucks of sh*t.

 

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/191?vs=146

Even higher clocked Athlon II X4 CPUs without any L3 Cache can max out all games without problems and guarantuee high FPS also in GTA IV.

 

So i tam afraid you see the whole thing from the point of an Intel Fanboy.

 

Even The Core i7 950 which is extremely expensive (3x more than the 1090T?) can´t really runaway from it performancewise. Especially in Games the difference can be almost ignored.

 

Intel Corei7 950 and Phenom II X6 1090T Comparison

 

Sure if you have tons of money you should go with Intel. But if not, there is no reason for spending 3x that account for having some minor FPS increases.

Keep up with times. The i7 950 is about 280 bucks

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...5-211-_-Product

 

the 1090T is 229 bucks

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...3-849-_-Product

 

last time i checked, 229 x 3 is 687, not 279.99

[LIVE_SlimSlugga713]

hey guys i heard if i get a bottom psu case it will limit reach. but then some said it will only limit reach if i want to hid it, well i dnt care about hiding the psu cord. am i ok then?

Depends on the MB and the case. You can also get an extension to lengthen the PSU to MB connection so you don't have to worry about it at all and have maximum flexibility with what you actually want to purchase.

 

For example see part 6171779 on Frys.com

 

 

...how im suppose to get this Mother Board in this PC Case .

 

They're both ATX. That is a standard and means they're compatible, i.e screw holes will exist and line-up. It's a mid-tower case so it'll be tighter inside but again, because they're both ATX (not mini/micro) it should fit just fine.

you know the answer to my questions every time. imma have to put you in the special thanks (no homo)

[Stinky12]

 

hey guys i heard if i get a bottom psu case it will limit reach. but then some said it will only limit reach if i want to hid it, well i dnt care about hiding the psu cord. am i ok then?

Depends on the MB and the case. You can also get an extension to lengthen the PSU to MB connection so you don't have to worry about it at all and have maximum flexibility with what you actually want to purchase.

 

For example see part 6171779 on Frys.com

 

 

...how im suppose to get this Mother Board in this PC Case .

 

They're both ATX. That is a standard and means they're compatible, i.e screw holes will exist and line-up. It's a mid-tower case so it'll be tighter inside but again, because they're both ATX (not mini/micro) it should fit just fine.

you know the answer to my questions every time. imma have to put you in the special thanks (no homo)

A easier way to remember is a case can only fit the board it was made for and smaller, but nothing larger

 

e.g.

 

E-ATX case can fit E-ATX, ATX, Micro ATX

ATX case can fit ATX and Micro ATX, but not E-ATX

Micro ATX can only fit Micro ATX, but not ATX and E-ATX

 

 

@Ron Taboga

 

There are 45 test total.

Core i5 750 got 24 out of 45

Phenom II X6 1090T got 22 out of 45

 

A point was give to each for test that were tie.

 

Core i5 750 runs at 2.66GHz, it's a quad core, and doesn't support HT

Phenom II X6 1090T runs at 3.2GHz/it's a hexa-core, and dubbed BE (Black Edition) for it's unlock multiplier

 

Cost of the i5 is $199

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...5-215-_-Product

Cost of the X6 is $229

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...3-849-_-Product

 

The X6 1090T is 534MHz faster than the i5 750 and got 2 extra cores therefore is has a extra 3.2GHz/3.2GHz advantage.

Sadly it can even out perform a puny i5, now that's pathetic!

 

So much for the "Phenom II X6 1090T is faster 70% of the case

and its "BE" badge.

Edited November 28, 2010 by Stinky12

[YankeesPwnMets]

The guide from the case usually shows how where to put standoffs for MicroATX, ATX, and E-ATX for some cases

[mike752]

I'd get a better PSU than the one you chose. Unless I'm mistaken, the Basiq is a low-end Antec, and I myself wouldn't put that in the PC you want.

 

Stretch your budget a little bit and get this. It is the same price as the Antec after the rebate, too.

[luceberg]

The Antec 300 case is a good budget option.. about the same price and includes 2 fans.

[LIVE_SlimSlugga713]

The Antec 300 case is a good budget option.. about the same price and includes 2 fans.

i found 1 better for 40 bucks and has 3 fans. but power supply is at the bottom and im scared it wont have anuf extension. some 1 told me its only a problem if i want to have it routed correctly but does it matter because i dnt care if the cord is showing i mean its not a see try case anyway. would it fit with out an extension?

[luceberg]

I used the Antec 300 case to build my son's pc. A lot of the cables can be hidden. The main thing of importance about cables is that they do not impede the airflow for cooling the cpu etc. Use zip ties to bundle them together.

[IronHide-AW]

In addition, remember not only can you extend the main PSU-MB rail using the part (as example) previously posted, you can also extend all other rail connections too with similar extender cables. Doing this not only allow maximum flexibility in component selections but also allows the same flexibility regarding cable management. Restating the above, air-flow is absolutely critical for long term stable operation, especially when over clocking. Without it, the internal ambient temperatures can eventually become self-feeding super heated and simply degrade the life and usefulness of all components over time just because they can't breath properly. Extension cables are cheap and abundantly available. Food for thought.

[Jigglyass]

Just for the heads up, that PSU you selected in the OP, is loud a f*ck. The PSU is not bad at all, ive had it for 3 years before selling it off, it works very well and does a good job, but its load, really man, f*cking loud. Invest in a good PSU, its the most important part of the system, don't skim on it.

[LIVE_SlimSlugga713]

Just for the heads up, that PSU you selected in the OP, is loud a f*ck. The PSU is not bad at all, ive had it for 3 years before selling it off, it works very well and does a good job, but its load, really man, f*cking loud. Invest in a good PSU, its the most important part of the system, don't skim on it.

lol it looks loud. but it wont bother me...... this B*tch computer im on now sound like a small vacuum i think because its old (2003 xp) the RAM revs up for no reason. old B*tch lol but i love my crappy pc we been threw so many viruses XD but its time to move on. i will have my Gaming Pc By monday.

[unc13bud]

nvidia cards are going to always be better for a rockstar game i think. they code specifically for those chipsets. what i don't get is why they didn't include anything for physx (my install runs like mud with it enabled, so i have to disable phys all the time in windows). so so stupid.

[mike752]

*wrong topic*