North Korea attacks South

[Mark]

North Korea is blaming South Korea for driving them "to the brink of war," a day after the North shelled a South Korean island and killed four people.

Is it just me or does that kinda logic come from the same ilk as the logic formed by senile people?

 

NK - "It's your fault, we only retaliated!"

SK - "Uh...what?"

NK - "Stop looking at me like that!"

SK - "What the f*ck have you been taking, North Korea?"

NK - "Ah damn it where have my meds gone?"

[Minus the Boom]

I wouldn't be surprised if they ended up nuking themselves.

Damn...that would honestly be one of the funniest things to ever happen to mankind, ever.

 

 

I just tried to look at it realistically. All the world leaders would be calling each other and sh*tting bricks at UN meeting trying to figure out who just bombed NK only to find out they blew themselves up.

 

 

If NK managed to blow themselves up they would become an internet sensation. Imagine all the memes.

That actually sounds like a more likely situation than these recent events causing World War III.

 

 

get ready for WW3

 

I love tools like this.

[Uncle Douche]

Don't mess with North Korea, bitches.

[Typhus]

Don't miss with North Korea, bitches.

Oh, or what? They'll put a few dead donkeys in a catapult and try to throw them at us? That'd be more useful than their so-called 'nuclear weapons'. Their nukes are a wet fizzle and Kim Jong Il is the Gary Coleman of the political world.

Just take him out, that's all we have to do. Get rid of that one guy, decpitate the leadership and do business with what's left.

Perhaps offer North Korea money and aid in exchange for Kim's generals slitting his throat.

There has got to be some way that we can take him out. No one is untouchable, after all.

[dog_day_sunrise]

Just take him out, that's all we have to do. Get rid of that one guy, decpitate the leadership and do business with what's left.

Perhaps offer North Korea money and aid in exchange for Kim's generals slitting his throat.

There has got to be some way that we can take him out. No one is untouchable, after all.

Personally, I'm not entirely convinced by this argument. Ultra-autocratic regimes like that of the DPRK promote a very high level of militarisation of daily life- even without the Kim family at the head, there are enough corrupt, violent and nationalistic generals to carry on his fight- perhaps even more brutally than he would be prepared to, as a military government tends not to be bound by the same principals of a true political regime, even one so extreme as that in the DPRK. Just look at Argentina in the late 70's-mid 80's, or modern Myanmar (Burma).

[coin-god]

^ 1976 - 1983

 

Tough times.

[Tommy-Vercetti19]

Not to mention his son, who would surely look for revenge if he was killed.

[Typhus]

Just take him out, that's all we have to do. Get rid of that one guy, decpitate the leadership and do business with what's left.

Perhaps offer North Korea money and aid in exchange for Kim's generals slitting his throat.

There has got to be some way that we can take him out. No one is untouchable, after all.

Personally, I'm not entirely convinced by this argument. Ultra-autocratic regimes like that of the DPRK promote a very high level of militarisation of daily life- even without the Kim family at the head, there are enough corrupt, violent and nationalistic generals to carry on his fight- perhaps even more brutally than he would be prepared to, as a military government tends not to be bound by the same principals of a true political regime, even one so extreme as that in the DPRK. Just look at Argentina in the late 70's-mid 80's, or modern Myanmar (Burma).

But what I'm talking about here is not so much regime change, but merely removing one man - a loose cannon - whose actions have led to his people being driven to starvation.

If North Korea becomes a military junta, so be it, but at least it could be run by men we could understand. Kim Jong Il is a lunatic, I don't think there's a method to his madness. And those brutal generals you mention may at least be clever enough not to burn some very important bridges. They may form better relations with China and through those relations we may come to understand them better ourselves.

But as long as Kim Jong Il lives, that cannot happen.

 

Let me put it like this, I would take a million Pinochet's if it meant avoiding one Idi Amin. Certain leaders may be scumbags, but the ones you must guard against are the truly insane individuals who occasionally rise to levels of great power, because they are not motivated by money or even logic.

Kim Jong Il is such a man.

[baptiste]

Just take him out, that's all we have to do. Get rid of that one guy, decpitate the leadership and do business with what's left.

Perhaps offer North Korea money and aid in exchange for Kim's generals slitting his throat.

There has got to be some way that we can take him out. No one is untouchable, after all.

Personally, I'm not entirely convinced by this argument. Ultra-autocratic regimes like that of the DPRK promote a very high level of militarisation of daily life- even without the Kim family at the head, there are enough corrupt, violent and nationalistic generals to carry on his fight- perhaps even more brutally than he would be prepared to, as a military government tends not to be bound by the same principals of a true political regime, even one so extreme as that in the DPRK. Just look at Argentina in the late 70's-mid 80's, or modern Myanmar (Burma).

His son would actually take his place in an instant. He might be more willing to talk if anything, but this idea that assasination will fix everything is ridiculous.

[dog_day_sunrise]

But what I'm talking about here is not so much regime change, but merely removing one man - a loose cannon - whose actions have led to his people being driven to starvation.

If North Korea becomes a military junta, so be it, but at least it could be run by men we could understand. Kim Jong Il is a lunatic, I don't think there's a method to his madness. And those brutal generals you mention may at least be clever enough not to burn some very important bridges. They may form better relations with China and through those relations we may come to understand them better ourselves.

But as long as Kim Jong Il lives, that cannot happen.

 

Let me put it like this, I would take a million Pinochet's if it meant avoiding one Idi Amin. Certain leaders may be scumbags, but the ones you must guard against are the truly insane individuals who occasionally rise to levels of great power, because they are not motivated by money or even logic.

Kim Jong Il is such a man.

I'm not denying the fact that Kim Jong-Il is a maniac, and yes, perhaps his replacement by a military Junta would benefit would peace. However, military regimes tend to display even more ultranationalistic ideologies than even the most ruthless of dictators, and my fear would be that by removing one tyrant and lunatic, a power vacuum could be created by which he could be replaced by someone more rational yet equally as tyranical, and perhaps even more nationalist. The generals support the Kim family and vice versa, and in a situation in which the generals were left to govern I'd be concerned that they would continue on a similar path, but one even less bound by the nicities of international relations (or what few there are)- resutling in a North Korea more prepared to take military action than ever before.

[Typhus]

 

Just take him out, that's all we have to do. Get rid of that one guy, decpitate the leadership and do business with what's left.

Perhaps offer North Korea money and aid in exchange for Kim's generals slitting his throat.

There has got to be some way that we can take him out. No one is untouchable, after all.

Personally, I'm not entirely convinced by this argument. Ultra-autocratic regimes like that of the DPRK promote a very high level of militarisation of daily life- even without the Kim family at the head, there are enough corrupt, violent and nationalistic generals to carry on his fight- perhaps even more brutally than he would be prepared to, as a military government tends not to be bound by the same principals of a true political regime, even one so extreme as that in the DPRK. Just look at Argentina in the late 70's-mid 80's, or modern Myanmar (Burma).

His son would actually take his place in an instant. He might be more willing to talk if anything, but this idea that assasination will fix everything is ridiculous.

The aim isn't to fix things. It's to create a state of chaos in North Korea that could potentially lead to the country opening up and being more submissive to Western interests.

I would think that if Kim Jong Il died, there would be a power struggle. Sure, his son will succeed him, but whether the army follows him is another matter.

 

It won't turn into a perfect country because their leader dies, but it may produce a government more willing to use diplomacy than this absurd attention seeking. Or it could simply cause the country to descend into a bloody civil war, either option is actually very desirable. Indeed, a civil war could present us with different candidates to run the country. Allowing us the liberty of playing kingmaker and aiding those who would best serve us in the future.

Edited November 24, 2010 by Typhus

[baptiste]

Just take him out, that's all we have to do. Get rid of that one guy, decpitate the leadership and do business with what's left.

Perhaps offer North Korea money and aid in exchange for Kim's generals slitting his throat.

There has got to be some way that we can take him out. No one is untouchable, after all.

Personally, I'm not entirely convinced by this argument. Ultra-autocratic regimes like that of the DPRK promote a very high level of militarisation of daily life- even without the Kim family at the head, there are enough corrupt, violent and nationalistic generals to carry on his fight- perhaps even more brutally than he would be prepared to, as a military government tends not to be bound by the same principals of a true political regime, even one so extreme as that in the DPRK. Just look at Argentina in the late 70's-mid 80's, or modern Myanmar (Burma).

His son would actually take his place in an instant. He might be more willing to talk if anything, but this idea that assasination will fix everything is ridiculous.

The aim isn't to fix things. It's to create a state of chaos in North Korea that could potentially lead to the country opening up and being more submissive to Western interests.

I would think that if Kim Jong Il died, there would be a power struggle. Sure, his son will succeed him, but whether the army follows him is another matter.

 

It won't turn into a perfect country because their leader dies, but it may produce a government more willing to use diplomacy than this absurd attention seeking. Or it could simply cause the country to descend into a bloody civil war, either option is actually very desirable. Indeed, a civil war could present us with different candidates to run the country. Allowing us the liberty of playing kingmaker and aiding those who would best serve us in the future.

You need to look up your sh*t on NK. Power Struggle? I dont think so. I dont think so one bit.

 

As I said, his sons would take over in mere seconds, and the country would follow in an instant. The only thing something like that will do it'll do will piss them off even more.

[Creed Bratton]

Hey guys look at this beautiful tourist destination. Yes, it's North Korea. Look at all these wonders.

http://www.eatliver.com/north-korea/

 

It reminds me of Mercenaries 1 so much.

[JakeTheHuman]

Send in a few recon Marines armed with a Barrett M82 with the objective of killing Kim Jong Un and Il....

 

Problem solved.

[unopescio]

^ Im glad all our world leaders arent 15 years old.

[The-King]

 

Send in a few recon Marines armed with a Barrett M82 with the objective of killing Kim Jong Un and Il....

 

Problem solved.

Are you actually retarded? I hope so.

 

Yeah, send in some loud overly confident military men whose primary objective is first recon and frontline warfare and have them sneak into a country whose entire populace is consistently alert to intruders whilst carrying a rifle nearly the size of a human body in order to assassinate a man whose undoubtedly under constant guard by actual specialists 24/7. Brilliant plan; I think you're going to give General James Cartwright a run for his money some day, why didn't he think of that?

[QwertyAAA]

 

Send in a few recon Marines armed with a Barrett M82 with the objective of killing Kim Jong Un and Il....

 

Problem solved.

Are you actually retarded? I hope so.

 

Yeah, send in some loud overly confident military men whose primary objective is first recon and frontline warfare and have them sneak into a country whose entire populace is consistently alert to intruders whilst carrying a rifle nearly the size of a human body in order to assassinate a man whose undoubtedly under constant guard by actual specialists 24/7. Brilliant plan; I think you're going to give General James Cartwright a run for his money some day, why didn't he think of that?

Even better - US asserting its military hegemony by violent insurrection in a state that happens to be right next to China and Russia without an actual war or hostilities from NK.

 

Do you think the USSR liked Bay of Pigs?

Edited November 25, 2010 by QwertyAAA

[NinjaWJ]

ooh god WW3 has begun!?!?!?!?!

[uNi]

Hey guys look at this beautiful tourist destination. Yes, it's North Korea. Look at all these wonders.

http://www.eatliver.com/north-korea/

 

It reminds me of Mercenaries 1 so much.

Looks lovely, when was it abandoned?

[PHCharls]

 

Web Bot (a tool for predicting future) predicts this event

NK vs SK

Web Bot predicts NK vs SK

BREAKING!! WEB BOT NAILS ANOTHER ONE 9 days late but oh well.

As you are all well aware of North Korea has just attaked South Korea.

 

HOW DARE YOU TREAT SOMEONE LIKE CLIF HIGH THE WAY YOU DID, DEMANDING THAT HIS PREDICTIONS COME TRUE 100% OF THE TIME WHEN HE'S TOLD YOU FROM DAY ONE THAT HIS WEB BOT IS NEVER 100% RIGHT AND THAT IT IS ONLY "BETTER THAN CHANCE".

 

9 DAYS LATER NORTH KOREA ATTACKS SOUTH KOREA AND.....WAIT FOR IT....WAIT FOR IT....THE TIPPING POINT EVENT HAS NOW OCCURRED.

 

Bump for respect to Clif High. Everybody bump this until it gets pinned.

 

Now where's Phenn at? I think she needs to send Clif an APOLOGY LETTER.

this is the picture of Korean Peninsula

Edited November 25, 2010 by PHCharls

[QwertyAAA]

Web Bot (a tool for predicting future) predicts this event

Web Bot predicts NK vs SK

BREAKING!! WEB BOT NAILS ANOTHER ONE 9 days late but oh well.

As you are all well aware of North Korea has just attaked South Korea.

 

HOW DARE YOU TREAT SOMEONE LIKE CLIF HIGH THE WAY YOU DID, DEMANDING THAT HIS PREDICTIONS COME TRUE 100% OF THE TIME WHEN HE'S TOLD YOU FROM DAY ONE THAT HIS WEB BOT IS NEVER 100% RIGHT AND THAT IT IS ONLY "BETTER THAN CHANCE".

 

9 DAYS LATER NORTH KOREA ATTACKS SOUTH KOREA AND.....WAIT FOR IT....WAIT FOR IT....THE TIPPING POINT EVENT HAS NOW OCCURRED.

 

Bump for respect to Clif High. Everybody bump this until it gets pinned.

 

Now where's Phenn at? I think she needs to send Clif an APOLOGY LETTER.

this is the picture of Korean Peninsula

That's a fallacy.

[dog_day_sunrise]

Send in a few recon Marines armed with a Barrett M82 with the objective of killing Kim Jong Un and Il....

 

Problem solved.

Are you actually retarded? I hope so.

 

Yeah, send in some loud overly confident military men whose primary objective is first recon and frontline warfare and have them sneak into a country whose entire populace is consistently alert to intruders whilst carrying a rifle nearly the size of a human body in order to assassinate a man whose undoubtedly under constant guard by actual specialists 24/7. Brilliant plan; I think you're going to give General James Cartwright a run for his money some day, why didn't he think of that?

Not to mention the fact it's a relatively inaccurate rifle principally used for destroying military materiel, rather than use against personnel.

Yeah, lets not.

[Kevin...]

Send in a few recon Marines armed with a Barrett M82 with the objective of killing Kim Jong Un and Il....

 

Problem solved.

Are you actually retarded? I hope so.

 

Yeah, send in some loud overly confident military men whose primary objective is first recon and frontline warfare and have them sneak into a country whose entire populace is consistently alert to intruders whilst carrying a rifle nearly the size of a human body in order to assassinate a man whose undoubtedly under constant guard by actual specialists 24/7. Brilliant plan; I think you're going to give General James Cartwright a run for his money some day, why didn't he think of that?

Not to mention the fact it's a relatively inaccurate rifle principally used for destroying military materiel, rather than use against personnel.

Yeah, lets not.

Oh god...I see this going off and becoming a debate between Modern Warfare 12 year olds and realist adults.

[TheSiggi]

 

Send in a few recon Marines armed with a Barrett M82 with the objective of killing Kim Jong Un and Il....

 

Problem solved.

Another reasons why guys under 15 shouldn't play games like Meda of Honor and Call of duty...

 

By the way, would you volounteer to cary the tin coffins back home and telling their widows it was your plan?

[PHCharls]

Send in a few recon Marines armed with a Barrett M82 with the objective of killing Kim Jong Un and Il....

 

Problem solved.

Another reasons why guys under 15 shouldn't play games like Meda of Honor and Call of duty...

agree to this

[Kevin...]

Send in a few recon Marines armed with a Barrett M82 with the objective of killing Kim Jong Un and Il....

 

Problem solved.

Another reasons why guys under 15 shouldn't play games like Meda of Honor and Call of duty...

agree to this

As a kid who grew up on Mortal Combat, I will have to disagree. But no child's opinion of warfare should be taken seriously...that being said, they should also be smacked upside the head when they decide to interject their opinion.

[dog_day_sunrise]

Send in a few recon Marines armed with a Barrett M82 with the objective of killing Kim Jong Un and Il....

 

Problem solved.

Are you actually retarded? I hope so.

 

Yeah, send in some loud overly confident military men whose primary objective is first recon and frontline warfare and have them sneak into a country whose entire populace is consistently alert to intruders whilst carrying a rifle nearly the size of a human body in order to assassinate a man whose undoubtedly under constant guard by actual specialists 24/7. Brilliant plan; I think you're going to give General James Cartwright a run for his money some day, why didn't he think of that?

Not to mention the fact it's a relatively inaccurate rifle principally used for destroying military materiel, rather than use against personnel.

Yeah, lets not.

Oh god...I see this going off and becoming a debate between Modern Warfare 12 year olds and realist adults.

I hope not. I like talking about realism in international relations, and doubt the young'uns would understand that.

[Kevin...]

Send in a few recon Marines armed with a Barrett M82 with the objective of killing Kim Jong Un and Il....

 

Problem solved.

Are you actually retarded? I hope so.

 

Yeah, send in some loud overly confident military men whose primary objective is first recon and frontline warfare and have them sneak into a country whose entire populace is consistently alert to intruders whilst carrying a rifle nearly the size of a human body in order to assassinate a man whose undoubtedly under constant guard by actual specialists 24/7. Brilliant plan; I think you're going to give General James Cartwright a run for his money some day, why didn't he think of that?

Not to mention the fact it's a relatively inaccurate rifle principally used for destroying military materiel, rather than use against personnel.

Yeah, lets not.

Oh god...I see this going off and becoming a debate between Modern Warfare 12 year olds and realist adults.

I hope not. I like talking about realism in international relations, and doubt the young'uns would understand that.

When you have kids whos only way to relate to the current wars is to rationalize current political and war affairs to COD: Modern Warfare, you can't expect much.

 

 

I remember when I was in middle school. I loved studying WWI, WWII, Korea, Nam, and Desert Storm. What school offered was just a brief session of general knowledge. I wanted to know more constantly. I asked my 14 year old brother what he knew about WWII and I was damn near sick. Kids know sh*t about their past anymore. I thought the guys my age, mid 20s or so, were already bad off, but f*ck...the teens now are just ignorant bastards.

[Tyler]

 

Kids know sh*t about their past anymore. I thought the guys my age, mid 20s or so, were already bad off, but f*ck...the teens now are just ignorant bastards.

 

This, is exactly how I felt about my bro. sixteen and he didn't even know who Jim Carrey was. I nearly shot him at that moment. Anyway, the kids that interject their opinion honestly can't be taken seriously, since their plan usually involves nuclear detonation or massive invasion, both of which are f*cking stupid at this point in world affairs.

[NickRad]

Send in a few recon Marines armed with a Barrett M82 with the objective of killing Kim Jong Un and Il....

 

Problem solved.

This is what Cod and Moh does to people...