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Wolfenhoffen

Fox News: Was 9/11 an inside job?

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makeshyft
Building #7 was not hit by any plane.

Nope. Just tons and tons and tons and tons of falling debris.

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Wolfenhoffen
Building #7 was not hit by any plane.

Nope. Just tons and tons and tons and tons of falling debris.

Falling debris only damaged one side of the building....the side facing toward the twin towers and the damage was relatively minor...mostly windows blown out and some fires set by hot debris.

 

 

 

Is all that enough to make a modern, fire-proofed skyscraper collapse? I think not.

In comparison to other fires in modern skyscrapers, the fire in WTC 7 was not a worst case scenario and the building shouldn't have collapsed, and yet it did. Why?

 

 

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makeshyft

WTC7 wasn't the only building to collapse due to structural damage. Not by a long shot.

 

f*ckin' troofers. Love the way you guys pick and choose your facts.

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Ryan

This might as well be moved to debates and discussion seeing as it's going to turn into one.

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Wolfenhoffen
WTC7 wasn't the only building to collapse due to structural damage. Not by a long shot.

 

f*ckin' troofers. Love the way you guys pick and choose your facts.

Feel free to name some other modern steel-framed skyscrapers that have collapsed due to fire.

The investigators stated it collapsed because of the fire.

 

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MrcTOtheJ

 

Building #7 was not hit by any plane.

Nope. Just tons and tons and tons and tons of falling debris.

Falling debris only damaged one side of the building....the side facing toward the twin towers and the damage was relatively minor...mostly windows blown out and some fires set by hot debris.

 

 

 

Is all that enough to make a modern, fire-proofed skyscraper collapse? I think not.

In comparison to other fires in modern skyscrapers, the fire in WTC 7 was not a worst case scenario and the building shouldn't have collapsed, and yet it did. Why?

Alot of falling debris + Building=Collapse, simple.

 

I honestly don't think it's a conspiracy, allot of the conspires theories on 9/11 don't add up.

 

OFF TOPIC:Wolfenhoffen I do like your sig though man. icon14.gif

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makeshyft
Feel free to name some other modern steel-framed skyscrapers that have collapsed due to fire.

The investigators stated it collapsed because of the fire.

It doesn't matter what the 'investigators' said. You can't expect a structure that has been bombarded with a sh*t-ton of falling debris to maintain its structual integrity. It's common sense. Did you ever play Jenga?

 

Anyway, if you think in those terms, there were several other buildings around the WTC complex that suffered exactly the same fate as WTC7. WTC 1-7 were all f*cked beyond repair, and other buildings outside the complex were destroyed as well. From falling debris.

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Tetsuo2501

So if I'm at a party and I go to the bathroom and I sh*t in my hand, and I throw my turd in the toilet, and theres no mess on my hand, does that really mean i sh*t in my hand?

 

 

...i think not.

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Wolfenhoffen
Feel free to name some other modern steel-framed skyscrapers that have collapsed due to fire.

The investigators stated it collapsed because of the fire.

It doesn't matter what the 'investigators' said. You can't expect a structure that has been bombarded with a sh*t-ton of falling debris to maintain its structual integrity. It's common sense. Did you ever play Jenga?

 

Anyway, if you think in those terms, there were several other buildings around the WTC complex that suffered exactly the same fate as WTC7. WTC 1-7 were all f*cked beyond repair, and other buildings outside the complex were destroyed as well. From falling debris.

The twin towers mostly collapsed in their own footprint, so your assertion that WTC 7 was bombarded with a ton of debris may be an overstatement. Only one face of the building was damaged by falling debris but that in no way would affect the core columns in the interior of the building, which hold up the entire building.

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MrcTOtheJ
Feel free to name some other modern steel-framed skyscrapers that have collapsed due to fire.

The investigators stated it collapsed because of the fire.

It doesn't matter what the 'investigators' said. You can't expect a structure that has been bombarded with a sh*t-ton of falling debris to maintain its structual integrity. It's common sense. Did you ever play Jenga?

 

Anyway, if you think in those terms, there were several other buildings around the WTC complex that suffered exactly the same fate as WTC7. WTC 1-7 were all f*cked beyond repair, and other buildings outside the complex were destroyed as well. From falling debris.

The twin towers mostly collapsed in their own footprint, so your assertion that WTC 7 was bombarded with a ton of debris may be an overstatement. Only one face of the building was damaged by falling debris but that in no way would affect the core columns in the interior of the building, which hold up the entire building.

Well, you f*ck up one whole side of a building, and then that one side has all of the weight leaning on it (or just allot, not all) then the whole thing will well fall.

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makeshyft

Not to mention the amount the building will flex as a result of the force being placed on it by debris hitting one side, thus weakening its central core.

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Jay

It's called physics. Fox News deems that to be witchcraft, of course.

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MrcTOtheJ
Not to mention the amount the building will flex as a result of the force being placed on it by debris hitting one side, thus weakening its central core.

Yep, just like you said, and also, like you said about jenga, all it takes is one thing to go missing, and sh*t can hit the roof at any moment.

 

@Jay, yeah that's Fox News for you.

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xxxSIDESH0Wxxx

forget building 7. i just wanna see the plane that hit the pentagon.

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Mr.Mister

The weidest one has to be the plane crash in PA, I mean look at the crash site. It does NOT look like a plane crash site. Looks like some group dug up a ditch and unloaded a bunch of trash.

 

And WTC7 looks like a controlled demolition. If it did collapse by fire, wouldnt the destruction of it be more messy? Wouldnt there be smoke coming out of the building?

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Harrisboy

WTC 7, and the 2 towers were both destroyed with a controlled demolition. Each building drops at freefall speed, you can even see explosions as the towers came down. There are witnesses that state they heard explosions from underneath the buildings before it came down.

 

If everyone opened their mind and researched a little bit into it, they would understand that something isn't quite right. But what's better in the end, to think they did or to think they didn't?

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unopescio

I dont know why the f*ck morons always pull out the "it looks just like a controlled demolition" card, how the f*ck else do you expect building collapses to look?

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Mainland Marauder

As soon as I hear/read "FOX News" and "Geraldo" in the same sentence I know right away it's a crock of sh*t.

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Finn 7 five 11

There are so many theories, and many of them make a great deal of sense, i actually think 9/11 could have been planned or let happen, but i don't really care to think on it anymore.

Either i will never know for sure, or i will know one day when someone leaks info.

Just like aliens and ufo's...they could exist but a massive cover up has kept it secret...you just don't know.

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Tyler
As soon as I hear/read "FOX News" and "Geraldo" in the same sentence I know right away it's a crock of sh*t.

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Look at it in laymen's terms guys. I won't go into detail from the crash itself (Mostly 'cause Makeshyft did it will enough and you still ignored his argument). What I will point out is the fact that it doesn't matter if the collapse was due to fire, physical stress or otherwise, the building still took tremendous damage from the f*cking plane hitting it. Usually the reason of collapse is due to a variable of options, so to pinpoint one reason and constantly try and use it as a centre point for demolition is blatantly ignorant and totally wrong.

 

 

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LuisBellic

Killuminati.

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K^2

Can't really say anything about WTC collapses. They were unusual, but the whole thing was kind of unusual, and there weren't any obvious inconsistencies with reported cause of collapse.

 

The real problem is with the Pentagon hit. The damage is inconsistent with a 757 impact, as far as I can tell. But that doesn't mesh well with everything else, unless the Pentagon hit was a coverup for a friendly-fire incident with the hijacked flight.

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Ari Gold
Killuminati.

I really hope you're only f*cking about.

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Xboxless
Killuminati.

I really hope you're only f*cking about.

Makes sense, Illuminati was full of scientists and bright minds who hated religious zealots. The gov is practically run by religious zealots! YOU NEVER KNOW!!! wink.gif

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Ari Gold

You might as well blame Jews on the death of Jesus Christ.

 

Oh wait...

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OysterBarron

I was under the impression that both WTC fell due to cement getting super heated, cement is bound together with lots of little air particles when they get heated they try to expanded, once this gets to a point it explodes! apparently it was the planes crashing and stripping the protective layer off the central pillars that caused the cement to be exsposed to the super hot plane fuel causing the pillars to give way hence causing a total collapse.

 

But i will say that i did hear that part of a goverment agency was actualy located within building 7 and documents that are now destroyed could have explained away some of the conspiracy therioes.

 

But lets face it our goverments used the events to push through laws that they had been trying to do for years, its for the best of the people! when really half of the new powers have been used just to take people off the street that have done no wrong! Even to the effect of policing peaceful protests searching everyone under the terrorism act!

 

Goverments are dodgy and always will be like for example the first nuclear power station in the UK. it was opened by our queen under the premis of supplying power to residents on a permanent basis! 50 odd years later you find out that the only reason it was built was to enrich uranium in order to start supplying the materials for the mega ton atom bomb! witch in turn actually caused a core meltdown with the ammount they were trying to enrich releasing radiation into the surrounding area and town, it was the first event of the time and our scientists were the first people to deal with a core meltdown!

 

Now you know why about 2/3 years ago nuclear power was voted in to be the power of the fututre for the time being, its because goverments know that there missiles are coming to the end of there 25year shelf life and with ending the time of nuclear power they also end the ability to produce enriched uranium in the quantites they require in order to produce these WMDS.

 

but anyway was it an inside job? it could have been! looking at all the facts as a hole alot of the theriores can be debunked but there were a few people that benifited from the destruction of the towers mainly the buildings owner and the goverment in being able to push through new laws, but time will tell if it was an inside job then someone will slip up with a certain peice of infomation but i dont think this will happen within the next 30 years, if it does exspect goverments to be a thing of the past!

 

 

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Typhus

Saying 9/11 is an inside job is just a way for certain far-left elements to justify why they're always sucking radical Islam's cock.

I guess it helps them justify why they constantly defend a rabble of misogynistic, homophobic, inbred baby killers.

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tubbs51
As soon as I hear/read "FOX News" and "Geraldo" in the same sentence I know right away it's a crock of sh*t.

same here... Going to Fox News for truth is like sleeping outside in a cardboard box during a rainstorm when you have a perfectly good house....

 

retarded as hell...

 

im sorry but Fox news is as credible as a five year old mentally handicapped kid...

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Jay
I was under the impression that both WTC fell due to cement getting super heated, cement is bound together with lots of little air particles when they get heated they try to expanded, once this gets to a point it explodes! apparently it was the planes crashing and stripping the protective layer off the central pillars that caused the cement to be exsposed to the super hot plane fuel causing the pillars to give way hence causing a total collapse.

I was of the impression that cement wasn't used in the construction of the WTC (or at least used sparingly) because the cement racket in New York is run by the mob with an iron fist.

 

The fireproofing that they used instead was torn off from the impact of the plane, and the heat from the fire bent the steel enough for the integrity of the structure to be compromised.

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