MostOfAll Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 Unrealistic Things in Grand Theft Auto IV What are some unrealistic things in Grand Theft Auto IV? Here's what I have so far: All cars' license plates have "LIBERTY CITY" as their "numbers." Store clerks don't really do anything. They just talk. When Niko orders a burger from Burger Shot, all he does is point one finger. He doesn't even say anything. People selling food don't even tell you how much the food you're buying costs. Apparently, it's possible to hand out five dollars to the bridge toll booth when you're about seven feet away. Hitting a cop car on accident would provoke police's pursuit for your arrest. When Niko gets on a motorcycle, he has the magical ability to pull out a helmet out of nowhere and put it on his head. I find this really irritating, so what I do is I would just accelerate as soon as Niko gets on the motorcycle. I'm pretty sure there are a lot more, but those just came up at the top of my head. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/462985-unrealistic-things-in-grand-theft-auto-iv/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untame Snail Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 Everything: It's a game. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/462985-unrealistic-things-in-grand-theft-auto-iv/#findComment-1060201480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MostOfAll Posted November 13, 2010 Author Share Posted November 13, 2010 Everything: It's a game. It looks like someone's trying to seem clever. Of course it's a game. I'm pretty sure Rockstar really considered adding a great deal of realism into Grand Theft Auto IV. Realism is a huge factor in games like this for many people. I probably wouldn't be playing it if it was extremely unrealistic. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/462985-unrealistic-things-in-grand-theft-auto-iv/#findComment-1060201484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceRay Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 lol, that was funny, snail! anyway, I'd like to rebut those claims, in order. 1.Yeah, I guess that is pretty unrealistic. I never notice license plates though, they're usually in low lighting cos they're below the bumper. Obviously R* thought that the lighting was too dark for people to see 24/7. Its not a big gripe anyway 2.Would you really like to have to collect clothes and put them on the counter? I'd find that irritating. I mean, what else can they do? 3.Maybe there is only one burger? Maybe he is referencing the basic burger. And he actually does say something, he says "give me one of them" or something along those lines. 4.True, thats a bit odd I guess. Maybe the cops just accept that you gave money, they don't care if you throw it on the floor, as long as they get it. 5. Cops are over-antagonized in the GTA universe, therefore they are very corrupt and strict. and even in real life, do you think a cop would just stand there? they'd have to press charges anyway. 6.Well, how else are they to get helmets in the game? pretend that Niko picks the helmet off from thr side of the road. I love the helmet, I like it when I get a black one. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/462985-unrealistic-things-in-grand-theft-auto-iv/#findComment-1060201541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MostOfAll Posted November 13, 2010 Author Share Posted November 13, 2010 lol, that was funny, snail! anyway, I'd like to rebut those claims, in order.1.Yeah, I guess that is pretty unrealistic. I never notice license plates though, they're usually in low lighting cos they're below the bumper. Obviously R* thought that the lighting was too dark for people to see 24/7. Its not a big gripe anyway 2.Would you really like to have to collect clothes and put them on the counter? I'd find that irritating. I mean, what else can they do? 3.Maybe there is only one burger? Maybe he is referencing the basic burger. And he actually does say something, he says "give me one of them" or something along those lines. 4.True, thats a bit odd I guess. Maybe the cops just accept that you gave money, they don't care if you throw it on the floor, as long as they get it. 5. Cops are over-antagonized in the GTA universe, therefore they are very corrupt and strict. and even in real life, do you think a cop would just stand there? they'd have to press charges anyway. 6.Well, how else are they to get helmets in the game? pretend that Niko picks the helmet off from thr side of the road. I love the helmet, I like it when I get a black one. 2. It would add a better sense of realism in the game, wouldn't it? 3. You know how Burger King and McDonald's both label their meals on the menu by numbers. For example, number one on the McDonald's menu is a Big Mac meal. Maybe that would be a better excuse. I think he only talks when he buys food from the street vendors, not when he's buying from Burger Shot and Cluckin' Bell. 5. I was just about to mention that they're probably really that corrupt, too. I mean, they act like you just committed a felony when all you've only crashed into their cars. 6. Obviously, there's no visible helmet on the side of the road. I'd rather have Niko never putting on a helmet the entire game. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/462985-unrealistic-things-in-grand-theft-auto-iv/#findComment-1060201557 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stardrone Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 @Allen14n You're kinda weird: you put your ideas on a topic, and you expect everyone to agree them? You asked for people's opinion: and now you got opinions, you turn them to your cause.... Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/462985-unrealistic-things-in-grand-theft-auto-iv/#findComment-1060201562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MostOfAll Posted November 13, 2010 Author Share Posted November 13, 2010 @Allen14n You're kinda weird: you put your ideas on a topic, and you expect everyone to agree them? You asked for people's opinion: and now you got opinions, you turn them to your cause.... It's called reasoning and backing up my opinions. I'm open to opinions, but I'd also like to elaborate on my thoughts a bit more from time to time. I certainly don't expect everyone to agree with my opinions. If you were to give me a valid reason on why one of my opinions isn't effective, I'm all for it. ChinaLino 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/462985-unrealistic-things-in-grand-theft-auto-iv/#findComment-1060201574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidamelo Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 I think it's strange Alderney cop cars are LCPD instead of ASPD! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/462985-unrealistic-things-in-grand-theft-auto-iv/#findComment-1060201853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyramid head Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 Everything: It's a game. It looks like someone's trying to seem clever. Of course it's a game. I'm pretty sure Rockstar really considered adding a great deal of realism into Grand Theft Auto IV. Realism is a huge factor in games like this for many people. I probably wouldn't be playing it if it was extremely unrealistic. The fun factor is a huge factor in games not everything has to revolve around realism and realism is just another word for boring. What i find unrealistic is getting a 1 star wanted level when a police car drives into me it happened so many times when i had GTA4 i felt like pity it wasn't fixed for the GTA4 DLC. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/462985-unrealistic-things-in-grand-theft-auto-iv/#findComment-1060201960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRex Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 GTA4 is really realistic, those are just some things what people dont care much about. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/462985-unrealistic-things-in-grand-theft-auto-iv/#findComment-1060201986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lloydo Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 It's quite realistic with the graphics and AI. Most people are just pissed off because of nothing to do. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/462985-unrealistic-things-in-grand-theft-auto-iv/#findComment-1060202089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
QwertyAAA Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 If you're wondering how he eats and breathes And other science facts Then repeat to yourself, "It's just a show I should really just relax." Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/462985-unrealistic-things-in-grand-theft-auto-iv/#findComment-1060202115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyMufc-Champs Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 Everyone complains Its too realistic and here is you saying Its unrealistic. Unbelievable. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/462985-unrealistic-things-in-grand-theft-auto-iv/#findComment-1060202161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipwnd Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 Someone needs to (props if they had) make a GTA IV mod just to make the game irritatingly realistic. Key word: Irritatingly Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/462985-unrealistic-things-in-grand-theft-auto-iv/#findComment-1060202180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DELETEDUSER Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 Yeah so realistic, you die cause you didnt go pee in 7 days. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/462985-unrealistic-things-in-grand-theft-auto-iv/#findComment-1060202189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMERAKA Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 The weapons' reloading is unrealistic.. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/462985-unrealistic-things-in-grand-theft-auto-iv/#findComment-1060202217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurderMosquito Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 Roman calls Niko: R: Cousin, it is your cousin. Wanna go bowling together? N: Yeah, that would be fun. R: Great, pick me up in the next hour. And now Niko knows exactly where Roman is. I think this is really annoying. I mean, can't they say something like: Okay. I'm at Diamond Street, Chinatown. See you in an hour! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/462985-unrealistic-things-in-grand-theft-auto-iv/#findComment-1060202273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spaceeinstein Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 (edited) Everyone complains Its too realistic and here is you saying Its unrealistic. Unbelievable. How is it unbelievable? Have you seen the mods people make for GTA IV? They make GTA IV look like a cartoon game. I don't understand why people don't like realism AS A WHOLE into a game. Do you hate dynamic shadows? Do you hate Euphoria? Do you hate AI? Do you hate cars that actually look like cars? Do you prefer to have no cover system at all? Realism is good when it enhances the game. I can't think of any "realistic" features in this game that hinders gameplay. Are features in SA like car customizations, eating, excising, parachutes, tanks, gambling etc. considered realistic or unrealistic to you? If they are considered realistic, should SA be considered much more realistic than IV in this sense? Edited November 13, 2010 by spaceeinstein Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/462985-unrealistic-things-in-grand-theft-auto-iv/#findComment-1060202494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAWithStyle Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 The OP is thinking way too far outside the square that he has lost himself. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/462985-unrealistic-things-in-grand-theft-auto-iv/#findComment-1060202850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuisBellic Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 Cops keep shooting your player when he's already dead. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/462985-unrealistic-things-in-grand-theft-auto-iv/#findComment-1060202854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CryptReaperDorian Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 Everyone complains Its too realistic and here is you saying Its unrealistic. Unbelievable. How is it unbelievable? Have you seen the mods people make for GTA IV? They make GTA IV look like a cartoon game. I don't understand why people don't like realism AS A WHOLE into a game. Do you hate dynamic shadows? Do you hate Euphoria? Do you hate AI? Do you hate cars that actually look like cars? Do you prefer to have no cover system at all? Realism is good when it enhances the game. I can't think of any "realistic" features in this game that hinders gameplay. Are features in SA like car customizations, eating, excising, parachutes, tanks, gambling etc. considered realistic or unrealistic to you? If they are considered realistic, should SA be considered much more realistic than IV in this sense? In my opinion, GTA IV is no more realistic than GTA SA. Jetpacks, tanks, miniguns, working out, and parachutes all exist in real life. Now, it's not very probable to see a tank driving down a road, but that doesn't mean it's completely realistic. In matter of fact, it is completely realistic. So to have all of these things makes it more realistic than to have them not exist at all. I believe GTA SA has more realism in variety, but GTA IV has realism in things like physics and graphics. All in all, GTA isn't a game franchise that's completely realistic (far from it really). I mean, aren't the protagonists super humans? They aren't bullet=proof, but I'll be damned if I can live after a half-dozen 9mm rounds have been lodged into my heart and lungs. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/462985-unrealistic-things-in-grand-theft-auto-iv/#findComment-1060202898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceRay Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 2. It would add a better sense of realism in the game, wouldn't it?3. You know how Burger King and McDonald's both label their meals on the menu by numbers. For example, number one on the McDonald's menu is a Big Mac meal. Maybe that would be a better excuse. I think he only talks when he buys food from the street vendors, not when he's buying from Burger Shot and Cluckin' Bell. 5. I was just about to mention that they're probably really that corrupt, too. I mean, they act like you just committed a felony when all you've only crashed into their cars. 6. Obviously, there's no visible helmet on the side of the road. I'd rather have Niko never putting on a helmet the entire game. 2. So? it would suck ass majorly. realism is fun when it doesn't make the game boring. That would be very boring. People would complain. What next? will we have to aim when we pee in the urinal? will we have to click buttons to make our guy breath? will we have to shave? will we get aids when sleep with prostitutes, therefore requiring us to get a doctor to supply us with pills? will we have to set a blinking pattern? will we have taxes? when we die will the game end and we'll have to restart(like arcade games, lol)? will we have to wait 5 minutes for our burgers to arrive? etc 3. Nope, I've heard him speak sometimes. I think. 6. yes there isn't any helmet visible, but we can PRETEND. Jesus, use your imagination. Everything has to be realistic for you. Why can't you just accept that its there? anyway, the helmet is beneficial, as it keeps your head from getting mashed and loosing a heap of health, so you are making the game harder for yourself because of your iditotic quest for realism. read 2 for more. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/462985-unrealistic-things-in-grand-theft-auto-iv/#findComment-1060203018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MostOfAll Posted November 14, 2010 Author Share Posted November 14, 2010 2. It would add a better sense of realism in the game, wouldn't it?3. You know how Burger King and McDonald's both label their meals on the menu by numbers. For example, number one on the McDonald's menu is a Big Mac meal. Maybe that would be a better excuse. I think he only talks when he buys food from the street vendors, not when he's buying from Burger Shot and Cluckin' Bell. 5. I was just about to mention that they're probably really that corrupt, too. I mean, they act like you just committed a felony when all you've only crashed into their cars. 6. Obviously, there's no visible helmet on the side of the road. I'd rather have Niko never putting on a helmet the entire game. 2. So? it would suck ass majorly. realism is fun when it doesn't make the game boring. That would be very boring. People would complain. What next? will we have to aim when we pee in the urinal? will we have to click buttons to make our guy breath? will we have to shave? will we get aids when sleep with prostitutes, therefore requiring us to get a doctor to supply us with pills? will we have to set a blinking pattern? will we have taxes? when we die will the game end and we'll have to restart(like arcade games, lol)? will we have to wait 5 minutes for our burgers to arrive? etc 3. Nope, I've heard him speak sometimes. I think. 6. yes there isn't any helmet visible, but we can PRETEND. Jesus, use your imagination. Everything has to be realistic for you. Why can't you just accept that its there? anyway, the helmet is beneficial, as it keeps your head from getting mashed and loosing a heap of health, so you are making the game harder for yourself because of your iditotic quest for realism. read 2 for more. 2. Realism is realism. Realism is always good. I'm not saying that it should be like a Sims game. It should just be realistic to the point that there aren't any potholes in game design. 3. "Sometimes" isn't the same thing as "always." I won't settle until he actually speaks to order his food. 6. Well, there wouldn't even be the need for imagination in this case if there was already a helmet on the motorcycle or if Niko steals the helmet from the guy riding the motorcycle. I'm cautious while riding a motorcycle, so I don't care if not wearing a helmet in the game would make me lose more health if I crash. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/462985-unrealistic-things-in-grand-theft-auto-iv/#findComment-1060203043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MostOfAll Posted November 14, 2010 Author Share Posted November 14, 2010 Everyone complains Its too realistic and here is you saying Its unrealistic. Unbelievable. How is it unbelievable? Have you seen the mods people make for GTA IV? They make GTA IV look like a cartoon game. I don't understand why people don't like realism AS A WHOLE into a game. Do you hate dynamic shadows? Do you hate Euphoria? Do you hate AI? Do you hate cars that actually look like cars? Do you prefer to have no cover system at all? Realism is good when it enhances the game. I can't think of any "realistic" features in this game that hinders gameplay. Are features in SA like car customizations, eating, excising, parachutes, tanks, gambling etc. considered realistic or unrealistic to you? If they are considered realistic, should SA be considered much more realistic than IV in this sense? I agree. If you really want everything to be less realistic, go play some E-rated game. Realism is part of why this series is so appealing for many of us. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/462985-unrealistic-things-in-grand-theft-auto-iv/#findComment-1060203045 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceRay Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 2. Realism is realism. Realism is always good. I'm not saying that it should be like a Sims game. It should just be realistic to the point that there aren't any potholes in game design.3. "Sometimes" isn't the same thing as "always." I won't settle until he actually speaks to order his food. 6. Well, there wouldn't even be the need for imagination in this case if there was already a helmet on the motorcycle or if Niko steals the helmet from the guy riding the motorcycle. I'm cautious while riding a motorcycle, so I don't care if not wearing a helmet in the game would make me lose more health if I crash. 2. Realism is not good when it starts to overrule fun. Why would you play a game thats not fun? and store clerks that don't do anything is barely a plot hole. 3. Why does it matter that much? just don't eat food. 6. So are you telling me that you don't have an imagination? if there was a helmet on the motorcycle then it would mess up the bike design and if you stole from the guy riding it, than that would just be annoying, and NOT FUN. plus how would you get it from parked bikes? you should play TLAD, Johnny's biker lifestyle means he doesn't need helmets, so you never wear one. BTW I like realism, but there is limits. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/462985-unrealistic-things-in-grand-theft-auto-iv/#findComment-1060203048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MostOfAll Posted November 14, 2010 Author Share Posted November 14, 2010 6. So are you telling me that you don't have an imagination? if there was a helmet on the motorcycle then it would mess up the bike design and if you stole from the guy riding it, than that would just be annoying, and NOT FUN. plus how would you get it from parked bikes? you should play TLAD, Johnny's biker lifestyle means he doesn't need helmets, so you never wear one. They should have just gone without helmets for Niko the whole game. If you really want a helmet, you have to buy one from a store. Just like clothes, you'll have to wear it all the time until you go back to a safehouse, where you can change what you're wearing. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/462985-unrealistic-things-in-grand-theft-auto-iv/#findComment-1060203060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceRay Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 maybe an open helmet, but having Niko's face as a helmet doesn't appeal to me. We couldn't see his face during cutscenes, and Niko senses(hearing, smelling, sight hindered).If we want to conceal Niko's face with a mask, then the balaclava does that job just fine. maybe in Liberty there is a secret compartment of bikes which hides a helmet, if you really need an explanation for your precious realism. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/462985-unrealistic-things-in-grand-theft-auto-iv/#findComment-1060203069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipwnd Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 They need to make it so that when you die, you have to start the game over again entirely. After all, how can you play through the rest of the game with a dead character? *Hides from sarcasm detectors* Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/462985-unrealistic-things-in-grand-theft-auto-iv/#findComment-1060203893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAWithStyle Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 Yeah and when we get arrested it should be game over as Niko should be given a life sentence or even excecution for all the horrific things he does on the streets. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/462985-unrealistic-things-in-grand-theft-auto-iv/#findComment-1060204203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGTAGamer Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 I think not being able to see a driver in the Subway trains is kind of unrealistic, the trains in SA had drivers. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/462985-unrealistic-things-in-grand-theft-auto-iv/#findComment-1060215913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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