GTA V Graphics....

[LOGGYTHEMAN]

Grand Theft Auto: IV GRAPHICS

 

Do you think that GTA4 graphics was what you were expecting.

To me, it was a minor step into the new gen of graphics.

 

Don't get me wrong, but were they the graphics you were hoping?

 

I mean, The trailer looked like it had more improved graphics. It may just

be because it was on PC; that I highly doubt it was.

 

But....

 

 

 

Was it just me, or the trailer wasn't like the gameplay for me.

And the cut scenes did have have many differences.

 

Will GTA V improve

Edited November 10, 2010 by LOGGYTHEMAN

[Tyler]

I prefer the cut scenes to have the same graphic look as the gameplay, it makes it that more immersive when you're thrown into an action scene directly after a cut scene. Trailers are always different than the actual game because they are headed by different types of people. The trailer is lead by movie and cinematic designers that choose specific spots in the game, then over-haul the graphics because it's not holding an entire city, just that select part. It's basic computer mumbo-jumbo - the smaller the area, the better the graphic maximum.

 

The game itself is lead by game designers, that only try to make controls better and make the graphics look as good as possibly without limiting size and memory. In short - their job is to make it fun. So would you rather have two blocks of a map that's 1970p, with full on sh*t controls, or a two mile map at 720p with amazingly fluent controls and fun gameplay?

 

Besides the point, this doesn't really have much stance for it's own topic, specifically because of the fact that it's only graphics. That could easily go in the Wishlist topic bro.

[TOMERAKA]

Well, since Rockstar had changed it 'RAGE' engine a lot in two years, and the differences between IV's and RDR's graphics can absolutely prove that, we should expect GTA V's graphics to be much advanced than IV's.

Besides, GTA V's graphics should be less smeared than IV's, Rockstar will probably learn from their mistakes and commit as they have to.

Edited November 10, 2010 by TOMERAKA

[Jabalous]

I expected GTA IV to have better visuals in terms of the lightning, the reflections, the shadows and the draw distance, but for reasons that I don't know about, these three aspects were downgraded noticeably in the final version of the game compared to the trailers that were shown before its release, at least that what I have noticed. No one can give a very sure answer of why these aspects were downgraded, but it could be due to the fact that it was Rockstar's first huge triple A game, so they weren't able to use the full potential of the PS3 and the Xbox 360, let alone that they faced difficulties which was one of the reasons that led the game to get delayed, and Rockstar requested engineers from Sony and Microsoft to help them in their difficulties.

 

Now, the last big hit from Rockstar was Red Dead Redemption which really shows how RAGE engine can be improved to handle more complicated visuals. The game showed me what I hoped GTA IV to look like in terms of the four aspects mentioned above, in fact, it showed me more than what I expected. With this in mind and the fact that Rockstar will keep improving their engine while they are developing their next two hits which are Max Payne 3 and Agent, most of the potential, if not all, of RAGE engine will be shown in the next GTA, which simply means that the gap between GTA IV and GTA V in terms of the visuals will be phenomenal.

 

 

[Royal55]

Honestly no, I think they actually exceeded my expectations at the time. I always pictured GTA as a cartoonish game, based on the last trilogy, would have never expected it to be that good looking and detailed.

[Brawly]

I think thats because its rendered, it makes the graphics look 10x better when converted into higher resolutions.

 

The graphics engine is great the thing they should improve on is the character model engine, I hate the way the people looked in GTA IV they looked weird Niko had an incredibly large fat nose and most of the characters had the same recycled ears and other facial features. Luckily they improved this in Red Dead Redemption this can only mean that it will be better in GTA V.

[Snake Without a Tongue]

The advertisements always look better than the product, but I loved the way GTAIV looked. And RDR was even better. I definitely expect to see an improvement in GTAV.

[Mati]

The graphics still amaze me.

[AnthMUFC-Champs]

I am glad i aint the only one who thought the GTA IV graphics were better in the first trailer. i do love the graphics however they could be vastly improved.

[_Rob_]

I am glad i aint the only one who thought the GTA IV graphics were better in the first trailer. i do love the graphics however they could be vastly improved.

Yeah and at the risk of setting off the fanboys, the reduction in graphical quality may have to do with the Xbox's limitations

[Da_Lurker]

I think IV's graphics are just fine. I mean, they can always improve the graphics without changing engines (RdR anyone?). I think that's the way to go, so V will still be a PS3/360 game and fit into "low-spec" PCs as well.

 

Also, GTA isn't about the graphics imo. The III saga had ok graphics for those times, and now the "IV saga" has ok graphics for its time. Excellent graphics for a GTA game, imo. I wouldn't care if they make a very complex game and the graphics are the same as RdR.

 

What I don't expect is V to have the same graphic quality as IV. I guess they would improve it, specially in the shadow department >_>

[LOGGYTHEMAN]

I do agree with all this.

GTAV will improve. Any other thoughts?

[AceRay]

How can you get more realistic than realistic?

[LOGGYTHEMAN]

How can you get more realistic than realistic?

More improved shadow, theres a lot of things.....

[LOGGYTHEMAN]

I prefer the cut scenes to have the same graphic look as the gameplay, it makes it that more immersive when you're thrown into an action scene directly after a cut scene. Trailers are always different than the actual game because they are headed by different types of people. The trailer is lead by movie and cinematic designers that choose specific spots in the game, then over-haul the graphics because it's not holding an entire city, just that select part. It's basic computer mumbo-jumbo - the smaller the area, the better the graphic maximum.

 

The game itself is lead by game designers, that only try to make controls better and make the graphics look as good as possibly without limiting size and memory. In short - their job is to make it fun. So would you rather have two blocks of a map that's 1970p, with full on sh*t controls, or a two mile map at 720p with amazingly fluent controls and fun gameplay?

 

Besides the point, this doesn't really have much stance for it's own topic, specifically because of the fact that it's only graphics. That could easily go in the Wishlist topic bro.

Id rather put it here to talk about.

[GTAWithStyle]

wtf? the graphics definitely exceeded my expectations. I think they're perfect. The only thing I was let down by was the draw distances... like being in Alderney and seeing the empire state building appear out of nowhere, but the game can only be made so good...

[Wolfenhoffen]

I think it also depends on what type of screen your viewing the game from.

On my LCD TV, the in game graphics look almost as good as the trailers.

[LOGGYTHEMAN]

I think it also depends on what type of screen your viewing the game from.

On my LCD TV, the in game graphics look almost as good as the trailers.

Yes, I 100% agree with you!

[toni cinpriani]

I don't know. But I know that the new nfs hot pursuit has great graphics (if I must believe the trailers) If they could do that with GTA V too, then that would be fantastic

[ldee]

It's almost as HD as it should get with videogames these days already, anyway.

 

Next-gen would all be advanced physics engines, AI, interaction, scale of game, depth of game, etc.

[Darkel2001]

The graphics were pretty solid. I just wish they could have focused more on the gameplay than graphics.

[WhistleBlower]

How can you get more realistic than realistic?

Crysis 2, maybe? There are many other games that look better than GTA IV and Red Dead Redemption these days. But like others have said, it's not all about the graphics. If it was then I may as well be watching a movie. The most important thing concerning a sandbox title like GTA is that the gameplay should be fun. GTA IV was not fun compared to San Andreas and THAT'S the mistake, the one mistake, they should learn from. Make the game fun to play again.

[Ash_735]

Reading a few comments in this thread is proof why fanboys shouldn't really be allowed to comment on such issues, yes the graphics in GTA IV were pretty damn good, but nowhere near "Perfect" and "Realistic", yes, it was better than previous GTA games and more realistic compared to previous GTA games but there is still a lot more than can be done to improved the graphics, just look at what Rockstar has already done with RDR and what Team Bondi have done to the engine for L.A.Noire in regards to character and facial animation.

[.Ryan.]

I've owned the PS3, and 360 version of GTA IV, and IMO the game still looks orgasmic. Of course there are better looking games, but that's what happens when games PROGRESS.

 

At the time GTA IV was just about the nicest looking game I had ever played, but as with most things there'll always be something better to come along. Really I think GTA IV has done quite well in the graphics department considering the amount of games that have come out in the last couple of years.

[Magic_Al]

The interesting thing when comparing GTA IV and RDR is that the engine was developed by R* San Diego and they started working on RDR around the same time or even before R* North started GTA IV, as the "Old West Project" video from 2005 shows. One could say RDR's bun got to stay in the oven longer thanks to GTA getting out and raking in the money. For sure the next GTA will look even more amazing because it will pick up where RDR left off in technology.

[Snake Without a Tongue]

Speaking of RDR does it seem like there's less pop-in after the updates?

 

Anyway, I remember after I finished GTAIV I played a bunch of other games and then went back after a couple of months. Sitting in a taxi watching leaves blow in the breeze... just the little things were a pleasure. I think it's easy to get tunnel vision and miss those things when actually playing the game.

[AceRay]

one day graphics are going to get so good you can't make them any better. what are you going to do then? make it 3D?

[Niko_Vercetti7]

 

one day graphics are going to get so good you can't make them any better. what are you going to do then? make it 3D?

 

3D? God forbid! Personally I'll be happy as soon as this 3D craze is over.

[coin-god]

one day graphics are going to get so good you can't make them any better. what are you going to do then? make it 3D?

Games can already be played in 3D.

[Niko_Vercetti7]

 

Games can already be played in 3D.

 

 

Yes, unfortunately they can be.