If RDR comes to PC...

[Stardrone]

...will it require higher graphic power than GTA IV?

[Jigglyass]

Its currently being ported, and probably not, it utilizes the same engine. It will be identical to GTA 4 in every way, unless they learned their lesson and decide to port it the proper way.

Inb4 no AA.

[Jimbatron]

Its currently being ported, and probably not, it utilizes the same engine. It will be identical to GTA 4 in every way, unless they learned their lesson and decide to port it the proper way.

Inb4 no AA.

I've been out of the loop a bit - has this been confirmed? Any references would be appreciated

 

If it is indeed being ported then great!

[IronHide-AW]

...Its currently being ported...

According to what? Myself, as are countless other PC gamers with long history in the GTA series (or just appreciate really, really exceptional content and openness), are foaming at the mouth for a PC version of that. But everything I've read is the opposite.

 

Assuming it will be, and knowing it will be or is being, are very different. If you do have an official dev note, link or anything else you are basing that statement on please throw it down. Would love to know it's on the way!

[sjaak327]

...Its currently being ported...

According to what? Myself, as are countless other PC gamers with long history in the GTA series (or just appreciate really, really exceptional content and openness), are foaming at the mouth for a PC version of that. But everything I've read is the opposite.

 

Assuming it will be, and knowing it will be or is being, are very different. If you do have an official dev note, link or anything else you are basing that statement on please throw it down. Would love to know it's on the way!

Is it any good I wonder, I don't own a console, so never played the game. The western theme doesn't really look all that appealing to me (but that's just personal taste I guess).

 

 

[OverTheBelow]

...Its currently being ported...

According to what? Myself, as are countless other PC gamers with long history in the GTA series (or just appreciate really, really exceptional content and openness), are foaming at the mouth for a PC version of that. But everything I've read is the opposite.

 

Assuming it will be, and knowing it will be or is being, are very different. If you do have an official dev note, link or anything else you are basing that statement on please throw it down. Would love to know it's on the way!

This.

 

The only hints we have so far is it being printed as an xbox 360, PS3 and PC version in a magazine.. but they claim this is a typo; and the analytical claim that the R* statement "no plans for PC version right now" means it may come to PC soon. As much as I want to play it, the original didn't make it to PC so I don't have much hope.

[Dwagginz]

There's still time. GTA IV came out, what, 8 months later on PC? That would put RDR in the region of an April release if they're keeping a similar time frame.

[T-ru]

I think thata RDR will be realised for pc during the Christmas holidays, like Gta4 in 2008

[OverTheBelow]

There's still time. GTA IV came out, what, 8 months later on PC? That would put RDR in the region of an April release if they're keeping a similar time frame.

Yes, but GTA started on PC. Plus, I don't doubt they mentioned it would be coming to pc in the future.

[mkey82]

I personally can't say RDR tickled my imagination that much. Plus I'm really tired of supporting R* with their sh*tty tactics.

[Braindawg]

i think no, if you can run GTA IV on minimum you should be able to run RDR on minimum too. ive played RDR a lot and i can tell that the graphics are much better.

 

 

Its currently being ported

i hope you have some proof to back this up.

Edited November 3, 2010 by MinnieMan121249

[IronHide-AW]

...Is it any good I wonder, I don't own a console...

No idea man, and I don't either.

 

But I'm a real glutten for rpg-element open-world fps games regardless of the setting. If it's done right with quality voice acting / well written dialog, plenty to do and imminently interesting overall, then I'm all for it. GTA, Fallout, M&B, Arx Fatalis etc etc. If it's done really well then I'll soak right into it.

 

I "assume" RDR is of at-least similar quality in content to the GTA series, but I don't know that it is.

[Sunrise Driver]

When R* says that "the game is exclusive for..." or "no plans for X game on Y platform" then be sure it's not an exclusive and it'll come to Y platform.

 

So: LA Noire and RDR are coming for the PC and Agent isn't PS3 exclusive.

[Jimbatron]

I don't doubt that the exclusivity claims mean naff all in the long term. Anyone who remembers the DLC debate about whether it would ever get outside of the Xbox will agree.

 

My private fear is that R* might give up on the PC platform and focus on consoles only for open world games. I think that would be a mistake, but there is undoutedly more margin to be made per console game sale, and I don't know how strong the comercial pressures are. I'll buy RDR if it comes out for the PC, but more importantly I'd take it as a signal V is likely to as well (although I'm sure they'll make us wait longer for that too).

[Dwagginz]

Yes, but GTA started on PC. Plus, I don't doubt they mentioned it would be coming to pc in the future.

According to Wiki, the PC and PS1 releases were about four months apart at most, so that's about half of the time GTA IV took to go from PS3/360 > PC.

 

It'd be nice if we got it, but I have to admit I'm not holding my breath.

[viometrix]

i thought i read somewhere they were seeing what they can do, but i dont know if this was rumor or not. id love to play it on my pc so i keep hoping.

[quechus13]

RDR is coming to PC just give them time and i guess they learned the lesson

its bigger map than IV.

[mkey82]

 

its bigger map than IV.

Yes, filled with sand, cacti and some mountains.

 

 

But I'm a real glutten for rpg-element open-world fps games regardless of the setting. If it's done right with quality voice acting / well written dialog, plenty to do and imminently interesting overall, then I'm all for it. GTA, Fallout, M&B, Arx Fatalis etc etc. If it's done really well then I'll soak right into it.

 

I "assume" RDR is of at-least similar quality in content to the GTA series, but I don't know that it is.

Which GTA series game are we actually talking about here?

 

The game has less gameplay hours then a standard GTA title

- the difficulty level is, well... questionable

- voice acting in my opinion was sub par

- the story was about on level with GTAIV but lacking when compared to some other GTA titles, again that's for me

- I would expect a lot more from a main character

 

Other then that, RDR has a fresh setting, with some new stuff one can do, prancing around on horses, hunting, role playing as spaghetti western Clint Eastwood lookalike. Some of the stuff it features has been already seen in games like CoJ, but that one has it's own set of problems, glaring/giant issues.

[Jimbatron]

Can anyone remember how far in advance of its release the PC version of GTA IV was officially announced?

 

If RDR is coming to the PC, I can't imagine it is before Christmas, otherwise I think we'd have heard for sure by now.

[mkey82]

I believe they announced it around August the 6th, 2008 for November the 18th and later on it got slated for two weeks for December 2008.

[mkey82]

only Red Dead Redemption didin't make it's way to the PC platform

lol excuse me? GTA and Max Payne ARE PC game franchises, what are you talking bout? There was no need for those to make their way to PC. They were started on the PC platform.

[mkey82]

Sadly, it's a mistake people make often.

[Stardrone]

Okay people, let's not forget the real question of my topic: NOT if RDR comes to PC (as the title says ^^), but if it does come, WILL IT REQUIRE STRONGER PC'S THAN IV?

[Dwagginz]

Okay people, let's not forget the real question of my topic: NOT if RDR comes to PC (as the title says ^^), but if it does come, WILL IT REQUIRE STRONGER PC'S THAN IV?

Yes, that's entirely possible and rather likely. It's not exactly uncommon for sequels to have a higher system requirement than the previous title, even if they're on the same engine and are also released on the same platforms - BioShock & BioShock 2 are great examples of what I mean.

[CharmingCharlie]

 

"As for GTA IV coming out on the PC, that’s very doubtful as we currently have no plans to develop for the PC. We could only focus our efforts extensively on so many consoles at once, and PC might not see the light of day."

 

And we must not forget, as they released Undead Nightmare, Rockstar finished their plans with releasing DLCs for RDR. The only thing left is to release full-packed DLC disk version in the stores later this month, so I think we might get the announcement this November.

Just exactly where did Rockstar ever say that about GTA 4 ? When ever they were asked about GTA 4 coming to the PC the standard Rockstar reply was "we do not comment on unannounced titles". They never ONCE said "GTA 4 isn't coming to the PC".

 

The only time there was anything close to a statement like that was from a sorry arse game site that no one had ever heard of called "whatifgaming" :-

 

 

As for GTA IV coming out on the PC, that’s very doubtful as we currently have no plans to develop for the PC. We could only focus our efforts extensively on so many consoles at once, and PC might not see the light of day.

 

http://whatifgaming.com/gta-iv-for-pc-very-doubtful

 

Now look at the name of their souce a Mr Nick Hersh, I challenge you to find any one of that name working at Rockstar. There isn't so much as a teaboy with that name at Rockstar and the fact the name sounds strangely familiar to "knickers" should clue us in that it was fake. So Rockstar are happy to tell major gaming sites like Kotaku and IGN "no comment" but at the same time they are quite happy to divulge all their PC plans to a sh*tty website that no one had heard of before that story ???

 

In short Rockstar never said that they had no intention of bringing GTA 4 to the PC that was a made up story by a website seeking hits.

 

As for the topic, there is an RDR topic in the game section you know, there is also a forum dedicated to RDR :-

 

http://www.reddead.net/forums/

 

That is where discussion of "potential performance of an RDR port" needs to be posted.

[IronHide-AW]

 

Okay people, let's not forget the real question of my topic: NOT if RDR comes to PC (as the title says ^^), but if it does come, WILL IT REQUIRE STRONGER PC'S THAN IV?

oops! There are so many of us wanting it, it was inevitable for it to just instantly go OT but that's because the 1st or 2nd response stated something that had no actual proof.

 

Anyway, consider this.

 

If they did absolutely nothing to the engine (that seems very unlikely to me but) I would expect it to be less CPU intense and possibly more GPU intense. These are a total guess, but here's why I think it.

 

*These do not consider or include in any way the lack of optimization of GTA-IV. That is its own topic.

 

CPU - GTA-IV is a massive sprawling city with an impressive amount of objects to deal with at any given moment based on many factors, and the code is performing a staggering amount of script and other processing constantly. This is one of the reasons it crushes CPU's / CPU-bound. I assume there is no generally comparable equivalent workd-load in RDR, although certainly could be bursts in whatever populated areas there are and how they're being populated.

 

GPU - GTA-IV is a good looking game. If RDR had a new set of hand crafted textures or revamp / upgrade of what-ever recycled textures increasing their resolution then the bandwidth to slam those textures across the bus will increase. Also, if they create more visual candy and effects like maybe huge sand twisters, sand or dirt turning to mud when it rains, or basically anything that is more dynamic in its affect against the rendered world then that is an increase in GPU load.

 

Also I don't know what if anything is being used to generate or simulate physics. I'm definitely hoping actual PhysX though

[mkey82]

http://whatifgaming.com/gta-iv-for-pc-very-doubtful

The same site had practically the same article about GTAIV, even though back then they had anonymous confidential sources. That Usman Ihtsham person is full of sh*t.

[jnzooger]

When Angel Studios became Rockstar San Diego, only the first game they made came out on PC, Midnight Club 2. And before that, Midtown Madness 1 and 2 were the only PC games by Angel Studios, and they were published by Microsoft.

 

Simply put, don't expect RDRedemption on PC. After all, you never saw RDRevolver on PC did you?

[mkey82]

When Angel Studios became Rockstar San Diego, only the first game they made came out on PC, Midnight Club 2. And before that, Midtown Madness 1 and 2 were the only PC games by Angel Studios, and they were published by Microsoft.

 

Simply put, don't expect RDRedemption on PC. After all, you never saw RDRevolver on PC did you?

I'm willing to bet some virtual money there is going to be RDR on the PC. I mean, they have the engine more or less ready, assets are also probably ready (most probably they started with higher quality ones and scaled them down for consoles). I guess porting that sh*t wouldn't be that expensive, especially not for a quick and dirty port.