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Intel Sandy Bridge


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With Intel Sandy Bridge arriving in Q4 2010 or Q1 2011, there is still some time to wait, but it didn't stop

motherboard makers Asus and Gigabyte to show off what they have to offer.

 

Gigabyte boards

 

Asus boards

 

Intel Sandy Bridge

 

-Uses Intel 6 series chipset

 

-2nd Gen of Core i# series

Core i7 "2" 600/suffix

Core i7/"2"-2nd generation/600-model number/K-unlock multiplier

 

-Uses socket 1155

 

 

 

 

 

 

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With Intel Sandy Bridge arriving in Q4 2010 or Q1 2011, there is still some time to wait, but it didn't stop

motherboard makers Asus and Gigabyte to show off what they have to offer.

 

Gigabyte boards

 

Asus boards

 

Intel Sandy Bridge

 

-Uses Intel 6 series chipset

 

-2nd Gen of Core i# series

Core i7 "2" 600/suffix

Core i7/"2"-2nd generation/600-model number/K-unlock multiplier

 

-Uses socket 1155

Those motherboards give me a boner.

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Don't really see the need to upgrade nowadays. It'll be interesting to see what they offer still. I'm more intrigued by this new architecture in laptops, it's supposed to bring some decent power savings and better battery life.

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Don't really see the need to upgrade nowadays. It'll be interesting to see what they offer still. I'm more intrigued by this new architecture in laptops, it's supposed to bring some decent power savings and better battery life.

Knowing Intel they'll hit the market at precisely the cost of one arm, one leg, one kidney and the life of your first-born son.

Will there be any noticable or tangible difference between one and a hexacore Phenom X6- or even a quad-core? Will there f*ck.

Will Intel still sell a bucketload of them to the "I must have the newest processor and motherboard and I must have it NOW" peeps? Yeah, probably.

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Thank you for posting that video which none of us can understand. This is an English speaking forum, so use English.

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I think you could find a bunch of Swedes on GTAF tounge.gif

 

Anyway, I don't think UEFI is a revolution. Apart from it looking nicer than BIOS, it doesn't really show much improvoment IMHO.

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Thank you for posting that video which none of us can understand. This is an English speaking forum, so use English.

Don't understand Swedish either, besides the demo says a lot about the next major overhaul for the old aging bios.

 

Is it revolutionary?

 

Yes/No

 

Yes: Current bios has a HDD limitation and cannot boot from a drive larger than 2TB*.

UEFI changes that and allows users to do so.

Other things is the fancy GUI and mouse support, but seriously if you can't use the keyboard to navigate. You're should not even be fooling around with it.

 

No: UEFI isn't new, it's already available in Itanium platforms and some current Intel motherboards already has it.

By default it's disabled, you need to enabled it.

 

 

*Booting from a HDD large than 2TB

 

1. A motherboard with UEFI support

2. HDD must be partition as GPT

3. A 64bit OS

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*Booting from a HDD large than 2TB

 

1. A motherboard with UEFI support

2. HDD must be partition as GPT

3. A 64bit OS

I think that starting to integrate compatibility with 4TB+ boot drives at a time when all the smart money moves into sub-TB solid state boot drives is a really, really dumb idea. IMHO.

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SSD have gone down in price, but SSD are still too expensive and its storage space is too small compared to mechanical HDDs.

You can get a good SSD like the Crucial RealSSD 64GB SATA 6Gb/s for around $149, where as a 1TB HDD cost at sub $100.

Newegg a week or so ago sold the WD Blue 7200RPM 1TB for $65.

 

Currently at $69

And their new SATA 6Gb/s at $74

 

Hopefully someday this will drop down in price...

 

Edit:

The translation to that UEFI demo

 

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SSD have gone down in price, but SSD are still too expensive and its storage space is too small compared to mechanical HDDs.

As storage drives they're pretty poor, but if your going for 4TB+ your much better off having an SSD for boot ect and a seperate storage drive. Bigger HDD drives are SO slow. So glad I kept my 10k RPM RAPTOR drive as a boot drive.

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Hardware Canucks ASUS P67 'Sandy Bridge' Motherboards Preview

 

That ASUS Maximus IV Extreme is just f*cking beautiful. I'm in love with that board. inlove.gif

 

Now on the other hand, the ASUS Sabertooth P67 just looks f*cking retarded.

 

I noticed with both boards that they only have 4 DIMM's. Is Intel abandoning triple channel memory with it's 1366 i7's or are these going to be released on a whole new socket or the existing 1156?

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LGA1155 was never supposed to have Triple Channel. LGA2011 will have 6 RAM slots, but not LGA1155.

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Server/Workstation boards has 6 ram slots, but still dual channel

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813131597

ROG board is awesome, the PCIe switches along with a bios switch is a unique feature.

 

The SaberTooth P67 has a 5 year warranty as oppose to 3 years on the ROG.

From the pics, ROG has like 8 fan connectors. and has a side facing molex at the left edge?

Sabertooth (can't find a high-res pic), seems to have a max of 4 fan connectors (could be wrong).

 

Their mini-ITX

user posted image

 

 

ECS (looks like it has Hydra)

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I find it amazing that Intel has decided to rename their XE line by appending a 'K' to the name and charging borderline sane prices for them. Maybe they expect to sell more due to the recession and all? Either way, great news for enthusiasts. Unlocked CPUs are fun.

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Mainstream users gets unlock multipliers (K version only), but this doesn't dethrone the Extreme Editions.

IMO Intel will most likely got something better up their sleeves with their high-end Sandy Bridge.

 

At least a quad core for the main stream socket 2011

At least 6 cores for the Extreme Editions with unlock multiplier

 

 

Edit: typo

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Mainstream users not gets unlock multipliers, but this doesn't dethrone the Extreme Editions.

IMO Intel will most likely got something better up their sleeves with their high-end Sandy Bridge.

 

At least a quad core for the main stream socket 2011

At least 6 cores for the Extreme Editions with unlock multiplier

Stinky12..... The K versions have unlocked multipliers. dozingoff.gif

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Mainstream users not gets unlock multipliers, but this doesn't dethrone the Extreme Editions.

IMO Intel will most likely got something better up their sleeves with their high-end Sandy Bridge.

 

At least a quad core for the main stream socket 2011

At least 6 cores for the Extreme Editions with unlock multiplier

Stinky12..... The K versions have unlocked multipliers. dozingoff.gif

Just a typo on that previous post.

 

Correct it.

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Anyway, I don't think UEFI is a revolution. Apart from it looking nicer than BIOS, it doesn't really show much improvoment IMHO.

Think of BIOS as though Microsoft just kept the Windows 95 codebase and updated it until now, whereas UEFI is what they did by redesigning it every now and again.

 

Yeah, it's a revolution when you look at it on those terms.

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I really hope that AMD pulls it together and Bulldozer beats Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge as well. Should level off the insane prices Intel charges and us consumers will also get better choices. Win-win situation biggrin.gif.

 

I'm planning on going with Bulldozer if it beats Sandy Bridge (using Intel right now). Let's see how it goes.

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I wouldn't expect Bulldozer to beat Sandy Bridge, seeing how now AMD can hardly keep up with old C2Q CPUs. But I wouldn't mind if the time of AMD being superior returns (Athlon XP anyone? biggrin.gif)

Think of BIOS as though Microsoft just kept the Windows 95 codebase and updated it until now, whereas UEFI is what they did by redesigning it every now and again.
Yeah, but... it's just a BIOS - you don't need any fancy elements. It's there just to set most basic features of CPU and perform low-level commands. It's not like Win95, which has aged drastically (poor stability nad performance).

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I wouldn't expect Bulldozer to beat Sandy Bridge, seeing how now AMD can hardly keep up with old C2Q CPUs. But I wouldn't mind if the time of AMD being superior returns (Athlon XP anyone? biggrin.gif)

They've gone a different route recently though. Larger die process, but more cores. If they incorperate triple channel memory (which they will), larger cache sizes (which some think they will) and the 32nm process (which they will), there's no real reason why they can't catch up. They're already got the whole raw processing power per £/$ thing sussed, as well as the £/$ per core. If they can integrate the above tweaks there should be some pretty stiff competition between them- there's nothing in the Sandy Bridge spec that really strikes me as being superior to what's been reported from the Bulldozer spec.

 

All they really need is for people to properly thread applications for 6+ cores and they'll have no problem, seen as they're already pumping out pretty brisk hexacores for £120-ish.

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I wouldn't expect Bulldozer to beat Sandy Bridge, seeing how now AMD can hardly keep up with old C2Q CPUs. But I wouldn't mind if the time of AMD being superior returns (Athlon XP anyone? biggrin.gif)
Think of BIOS as though Microsoft just kept the Windows 95 codebase and updated it until now, whereas UEFI is what they did by redesigning it every now and again.
Yeah, but... it's just a BIOS - you don't need any fancy elements. It's there just to set most basic features of CPU and perform low-level commands. It's not like Win95, which has aged drastically (poor stability nad performance).

The thing is, Bulldozer is going to be a new chip built from ground up, so the performance of current AMD chips doesn't matter.

 

It's way too early to say which will be faster since there are no benchmarks of Bulldozer, but I certainly hope that AMD pulls this through and betters Intel. The market really needs it as Intel prices are literally insane compared to AMD's.

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The thing is, Bulldozer is going to be a new chip built from ground up, so the performance of current AMD chips doesn't matter.

Yes I do realise that, but what I meant is since performance of current AMD CPUs is not stunning, I just don't expect them to make such huge progress. It's been a while since they had more powerful CPUs than Intel. I'm definitely rooting for AMD though, since we really need more competition on market.

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I find it amazing that Intel has decided to rename their XE line by appending a 'K' to the name and charging borderline sane prices for them. Maybe they expect to sell more due to the recession and all? Either way, great news for enthusiasts. Unlocked CPUs are fun.

Nah, they expect production costs to go down with the unified base clock and have the K editions as a side effect to that...It also causes cheap OCers like me to get higher end chips and K editions, rather than say, buying a cheap pentium and OCing it.

 

 

Yeah, but... it's just a BIOS - you don't need any fancy elements. It's there just to set most basic features of CPU and perform low-level commands. It's not like Win95, which has aged drastically (poor stability nad performance).

Wrong, the OS talks to the BIOS, the BIOS controls our hard drives, hardware, etc, at the moment is code from the 70s just patched to make modern stuff run, KISS really applies to UEFI > BIOS.

 

 

The thing is, Bulldozer is going to be a new chip built from ground up, so the performance of current AMD chips doesn't matter.

Yes I do realise that, but what I meant is since performance of current AMD CPUs is not stunning, I just don't expect them to make such huge progress. It's been a while since they had more powerful CPUs than Intel. I'm definitely rooting for AMD though, since we really need more competition on market.

Phenom I sucked, Phenom II was just an improvement on that, they had to rush it out the doors because they needed chips out there that could at least compete with Intel on price, if they'd taken a little while longer for Phenom II, it'd be beating or matching Core i7, but they didn't have that time.

 

The differences are tiny in real life anyhow.

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