Is Ray's Ristorante, "Drusilla's", A Failure?

[cidamelo]

Hi friends, my favorite character in GTA IV is Ray Boccino, but sometimes I feel sorry for him. His "ristorante" (restaurant), Drusilla's, is a failure. Not a failure because bad service, or bad food, because it has a "Critics Choice" in the popular website "PeepThatsh*t.Com", and Italian Food is very popular and good. The restaurant decoration is awesome too, very awesome, and the restaurant is in Little Italy, a famous neighborhood for Italian Food. His restaurant is awesome, but NO ONE GOES THERE ! Every cutscene Ray Boccino is alone in the restaurant, except for one or two employers or associates. Why Ray's restaurant is so unpopular? I don't understand it!! It has: Good Food, Good Critic, Good Location, Good Decoration, EveryThing Is Good! But WHY no one goes there ? And let's not forget the whole diamond fiasco . Poor Ray, everything goes wrong for him. I still don't understand how can he manage to have a nice Oracle and a nice suit. I feel very sorry for him.

[Vercetti27]

ray doesn't exist. he is a character. don't waste your sympathy on him.

 

real people deserve it instead

[cidamelo]

Vercetti27 Don't you feel sorry for him? I feel sorry for everyone who doesn't have luck!

[Spider-Vice]

When they're in the REAL world, sure. Not in a game.

[cidamelo]

Spider-Vice I feel sorry for various game, movie and soap operas characters! You have to be more emotive people.

[WF the Hobgoblin]

Perhaps Al Dente's are taking all the business away?

[Morsaw]

His restaurant was made more for a cover up from his his Mafia Money so I guess its just there to say thats where the money comes from. And yeah, I guess we all feel sympathy for in-game characters, I remember I did for Roman, infact, I remember a tear ran down my eyes. I thought to myself, if I was Niko id kill myself.

[cidamelo]

Hi WF the Hobgoblin, I was thinking about it. Even in Drusilla', Ray's restaurant, there's an Al Dente's advert. But thinking more, I don't think this is the problem. A lot of tourists and Liberty City residents go to Little Italy to eat in the Italian Restaurants, so there's too many market to it. Al Dente's doesn't exists in Little Italy, and it is a food chain restaurant, and not a traditional restaurant like Ray's. Drusilla's exists since 1971, before even Ray was born. And Al Dente's has a bad food, like Jimmy Gestapo, the DJ of Liberty City Hardcore Radio, said. It doesn't have quality food like Drusilla's, but it seems cheaper. But there's a lot of rich people in Liberty City who loves italian food, so why they don't go to Drusilla's?

Hi Morsaw I think you're right, but anyway, the restaurant should have more costumers! It is so good and tradicional, it exists since 1971! I love to eat in restaurants that no one eats on them, I found a lot of good restaurants that way. I feel sorry for the restaurant's owner and I eat on it!

[WF the Hobgoblin]

Well maybe the restaurant is closed to the public when Ray has business meetings there?

 

I can't really remember the cutscenes that well but i don't recall there being a lot of people in any of the places during the cutscenes.

[cidamelo]

WF the Hobgoblin No. In the mission "A Long Way To Fall", the maître of Drusilla's offers Niko a baccala salad, like if he was a client. Look:

 

This cutscene is very sad, Ray is so alone, poor Ray Boccino And he seemed so happy when Niko arrived, he was feeling very lonely

[Pac.]

maybe it's cos it's a mob hangout, i mean nobody like mobsters in real life, not really, they may talk about them and be interested in them, but really they are scum.

 

Don't you watch the Soprano's, however some mob restaurants have been the best, probably.

 

besides he only uses it for money laundering, why would he care its not his main business.

[WF the Hobgoblin]

Aight, like i said, i couldn't really remember.

 

I don't know then, perhaps Niko just shows up when it's quiet, or maybe it's just unpopular. Either way, Ray doesn't strike me as lonely.

[MyDog]

Spider-Vice I feel sorry for various game, movie and soap operas characters! You have to be more emotive people.

And YOU have to be less childish.

[Pac.]

Love the end of that cutscene though

 

This is city dont belong to the pegorino's no more!

 

Boom! falling whilst on fire

[cidamelo]

Pac. I know it is money laundering, but it doesn't mean the restaurant isn't good and isn't tradicional (it exists since 1971 and it has a "Critics Choice" in PeepThatsh*t.com). Yes, I love The Soprano's ! And I don't agree when you say Drusilla's is not popular because it is a Mafia Hangout, because my husband in the 80's worked in a Mafia Restaurant in New York, and the place had a lot of costumers. He worked in a jewish restaurant too, but I think the Jewish Restaurant was in Miami, I can't remember.....

WF the Hobgoblin he was lonely in that cutscene, and I haven't played The Lost And Damned yet, but I guess his only friend was Ashley Butler. Jimmy P hated him, and Phil Bell hated too, Packie and Niko hates him too, and he doesn't have a wife or kids, so yes, I think he's lonely, poor Ray, I wanted to help him, he must be very sad.

MyDog have you ever cried while reading a book or seeing a movie? Maybe I'm an Emo.

Pac. I hate this Teddy, he is ridiculous, and because I feel sorry for the Pegorino Family, mainly for Ray. And this Teddy seems to like to fart, he is gross. I love when he falls down

[WF the Hobgoblin]

You know, just because he's alone, that doesn't necessarily mean he's lonely. He never seems sad although often angry. Even if he was lonely, do you really think the he'd stop being lonely if Drusilla's were busy?

[cidamelo]

WF the Hobgoblin but can you remember somebody who is friend of Ray's, except for Ashley Butler? I can't think about anyone. And look to his face, he seems so sad and lonely . When Niko arrives he laughs in an awkward way, like he was very happy because someone arrived. I don't know, if I were Ray, I'd be sad. Ok, he's handsome, funny, stylish, and somehow he manages to have a fancy restaurant, a fancy car, and a fancy suit, but he doesn't have many friends and everyone thinks he is a slimy motherf**** and a rat. And no one goes to his restaurant. And he doesn't have luck, just look at the whole diamond fiasco. Poor Ray If Drusilla's were busy, he'd feel less lonely, and he could make more friends.

[SilentSeas]

Druisillas wasn't a failure. In the cutscene for Truck Hustle (I think) Ray asks Phil if Niko coulld steal the heroin from the Triads because he didn't want attention as the resteraunt business was "taking off" and thats what he wanted to focus on.

[WF the Hobgoblin]

Ok, maybe he doesn't have many friends but I don't think he cares much about relationships, he's more interested in earning and power.

 

 

[cidamelo]

Hi 02fishera, Truck Hustle is one of my favorite cutscenes in the whole game, I love it! But Ray doesn't say anything about the restaurant. He says just "business is really taking off", but I guess the business he is talking about is the criminal business, not Drusilla's.

WF the Hobgoblin yes, he's more interested in power and earning, but I don't think there's happy people without love. And anyway, Ray was a caporegime but his Family didn't trust him too much, so Jimmy called Niko to kill Ray Boccino and he lost a lot of things, like the diamonds. I think that everyone in his life goes wrong, in terms of relationship and power and money. At least he is hot

[Mokrie Dela]

 

Spider-Vice I feel sorry for various game, movie and soap operas characters! You have to be more emotive people.

And YOU have to be less childish.

dude chill out. if you've got nothing worthwhile adding to this topic, don't say anything - it can be considered spamming and i've seen people warned for it.

 

If you have a decent respectful responce to the topic, please voice that, but if all you can do is lay into someone who's expressing their thoughts in the game then i think it's YOU who needs to grow up.

 

Oh and i look forward to reading your inevitable "F*ck you" responce.

Really you're so hard, so mean and scary. that makes you so cool... [/sarcasm]

 

Similar goes for Vercetti27 and spider-vice. I've seen one or both of you around and must admit you appeared more respectful.

 

And to not be a spammer myself:

 

@ cidamelo:

Ray's a bad guy - an old school mobster - look out for number one. I can't say that i ever felt SORRY for him, as personally i though he was a bit of a pr*ck, but i agree with the restaurant - it looks pretty cool and is likely based on a real one somewhere, that one of the R* employees ate at or something. after "Pest control" I think it'd be sold on and owned by someone who would make it a success, but never the less.

Rays one of those characters you love to hate, he's an ass, but he's an ass who has a place in the game if that makes sense

Edited October 28, 2010 by Mokrie Dela

[buzbegone]

At least he is hot

Wtf? I'm fed up with your stupid topics about 'how hot claude is' or 'dont u feel sorry for ray'. The answer is no, we don't feel sorry for him because he is a character in a video game. ffs, grow up!

[cidamelo]

Hi Mokrie Dela don't worry, MyDog is a good friend, just sometimes he gets a bit angry . Obviously, Ray is a bad guy, but almost everyone in GTA IV is "bad", I think the only person who isn't is Kate McReary Obviously, in real life I wouldn't like Ray or any of those GTA characters, because I'm a "good" person and I hate criminals in real life, but in the game, I don't think that I wouldn't like someone because he is "bad". Oh, I didn't know it was based in a real life restaurant, it's very cool and cozy! I think the Drusilla's restaurant is from Ray's family, because in PeepThatsh*t.Com, they say it is a tradicional family restaurant, so maybe it is owned by Boccino Family, even thought we never heard a mention about Ray's family. I don't know why everyone hates Ray, I think he was very funny and good to Niko, I don't know why Niko hates him. Niko should hate Patrick "Packie" McReary, who is, like Ray says, a mick bastard.

Hi buzbegone, just a question, what is it in your avatar? I've seen this image before but I can't remember where?

[AceRay]

Ray was a d!ck. You don't see it much, but its really obvious in Pest Control cutscene.

I love that mission. I always try to get Ray out of the car, and then I run him over. Or better set him on fire!! Shame you can't talk to him though. Would have been interesting.

[cidamelo]

AceRay why is it obvious? I hate the mission Pest Control, I almost cry when I see my Ray

carbonized

 

[Mokrie Dela]

Hi Mokrie Dela don't worry, MyDog is a good friend, just sometimes he gets a bit angry . Obviously, Ray is a bad guy, but almost everyone in GTA IV is "bad", I think the only person who isn't is Kate McReary Obviously, in real life I wouldn't like Ray or any of those GTA characters, because I'm a "good" person and I hate criminals in real life, but in the game, I don't think that I wouldn't like someone because he is "bad". Oh, I didn't know it was based in a real life restaurant, it's very cool and cozy! I think the Drusilla's restaurant is from Ray's family, because in PeepThatsh*t.Com, they say it is a tradicional family restaurant, so maybe it is owned by Boccino Family, even thought we never heard a mention about Ray's family. I don't know why everyone hates Ray, I think he was very funny and good to Niko, I don't know why Niko hates him. Niko should hate Patrick "Packie" McReary, who is, like Ray says, a mick bastard.

Hi buzbegone, just a question, what is it in your avatar? I've seen this image before but I can't remember where?

i actually said i think it MAY be based on a real one - i can' say for defo

 

And as for good and bad - its not clear cut imo. You can have a bad guy who kills and steals but is really a kind and gentle person and very caring. what would make them good or bad, crimes they commit or what's "inside"?

 

Ray, as a character has one goal - survive. the Peg says so "he's a survivor". It's this mentality that makes him "bad", a steroetypical, or perhaps architypical mobster - look out for oneself. You can't be nice and caring, all cuddly in a world such as tha mafia, and survive; you'd be a soft target, whacked by some smuck to prove himself.

Perhaps behind the facade is a good person - in one cutscene he shows affection to Ashley - seeing past the drugs to some poor girl perhaps. He's not ALL bad, like Dimitr or Bulgarin, he's just in a world where he can't appear nice.

 

That said though, i still don't like him. i don't hate him either, he's alright

 

@buzbegone - if you don't like the topic, DONT READ IT. DONT POST - it can be considered spam. If you don't like this guy, cidamelo, then avoid all of their topics. You say grow up? How about YOU grow up too and refrain from throwing a wobbly just because you see a topic you don't like. cidamelo has the right to express their opinion, not matter how small or "stupid" it may be.

Get over it.

reported.

anyway i'm gonna leave this topic now, i cant be assed to read these pointless flaming posts...

[cidamelo]

Mokrie Dela I think that if someone commit crimes, something inside him isn't good. Obviously, I can't compare Niko to Dimitri, for example, obviously Dimitri is way worst than Niko. But I don't understand why so much hate on Ray, he was very friendly with Niko, and like you've said, he really seemed to care about Ashley, as seen in the mission "Taking Out The Trash". I think that almost everyone in the criminal world wants to "survive", and Niko, for example, to survive, betray and kill people Ray is an example so I really don't see why Ray is sooo bad like everyone says. I don't know much about Ray Bulgarin, I thought he was the main antagonist of the game but he doesn't appear much in GTA IV.

I don't understand what is wrong with this topic, I just said one time Ray was hot (and he really is ) Don't leave Mokrie Dela your posts are very interesting!

[buzbegone]

Mokrie Dela, cidamelo is a 40 year old Brazilian woman and to be honest, creeps the f*ck out of me. No, Drusilla's is not a failiure if that makes you happy.

[AceRay]

Pest Control is too cool. I love it!

Still, It would be cool if Ray got out and put his hands up, or something, instead of shooting Niko with a shotgun. He should have an execution scene like some of the other major characters. As fun as it is to run him over in a Huntley Sport, I feel a good execution would be better.

[cidamelo]

buzbegone what do you have against 40 years old brazilian women ? But why Drusilla's is not a failure? I think it is, no one goes there, poor Ray AceRay I agree with you Ray deserved a more "cinematographic" death, poor Ray, even his death was awful!