AceRay Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 I say best character is a bit of an overstatement, but he was good. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/459397-niko-hiding-to-packie-he-killed-one-of-his-brother/page/2/#findComment-1060156917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisAlicious Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 well what would you do if you killed one of your best friends brothers???. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/459397-niko-hiding-to-packie-he-killed-one-of-his-brother/page/2/#findComment-1060156928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidamelo Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 AceRay who is the best character for you? Other characters I like are Niko Bellic, Bernie Crane, Kate McReary, Dwayne Forge, Derrick McReary, Little Jacob, Elizabeta Torres, Roman Bellic, Brucie Kibbutz and Carmen Ortiz (actually they're annoying but they're funny), Michelle I used to hate her because she was an undercover, but she was an interesting character, Adam Dimayev, Ilyena Faustin, Jennifun, Eddie Low (obvious I don't like him but he's funny), Maureen McReary and others. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/459397-niko-hiding-to-packie-he-killed-one-of-his-brother/page/2/#findComment-1060157269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MostOfAll Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 We're going off topic here, but I think Ray should have lived, too. There should have been an alternative option. Killing him was just cruel. After all, Jimmy Pegorino is nothing but a backstabber if you choose to go on with the "revenge" path. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/459397-niko-hiding-to-packie-he-killed-one-of-his-brother/page/2/#findComment-1060206313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceRay Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 you are right, it is off topic Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/459397-niko-hiding-to-packie-he-killed-one-of-his-brother/page/2/#findComment-1060206660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkpile Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 We're going off topic here, but I think Ray should have lived, too. There should have been an alternative option. Killing him was just cruel. After all, Jimmy Pegorino is nothing but a backstabber if you choose to go on with the "revenge" path. lol...now how is Pegorino a backstabber? PEGORINO really acts like an asshole, when he TELLS (NOT ASKS) Niko to deal with Dimitri. and AFTER ALL, NIKO SAYS ALRIGHT which implies he will deal with Dimitri. He confirms to Pegorino that he will do the deal. so, after taking revenge on dimitri, it is only right to do a hit on niko from pegorino's view. niko stabbed HIM in the back. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/459397-niko-hiding-to-packie-he-killed-one-of-his-brother/page/2/#findComment-1060207287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MostOfAll Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 After all, I clocked on to Michelle being a cop right after the first meeting, but Niko didn't become aware of this until later on. Michelle wasn't a cop. She was a criminal, but she had to work for the UL Paper just like Niko did. The ULP seems to be a secretive branch of the government that uses conspiracy to get their plans done. They usually look for criminals who could easily be blackmailed to carry out their plans. Since they wanted to use Niko, they used Michelle to get information out of him to blackmail him. Since they have knowledge of Niko's criminal acts, they use this to blackmail him into doing what they want. This might make them seem like another enemy for Niko at first, but you can see that Niko and the ULP eventually share some type of "friendship." In return for Niko's work, they promised him the capture of the man Niko was looking for. Niko doesn't know exactly whether it was Florian Cravic or Darko Brevic that was responsible for killing his twelve friends. The ULP successfully tracked down Florian, but Niko found out it wasn't him. That would lead to the eventual capture of Darko Brevic; this happened because of the ULP. If it wasn't for the ULP, Niko would probably not have found Darko. Michelle was in the same predicament as Niko. She was blackmailed into getting information out of Niko. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/459397-niko-hiding-to-packie-he-killed-one-of-his-brother/page/2/#findComment-1060207708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wannaslide Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 If there were more need or use for the money Niko would receive from performing these hits, would the allure of the cash sway you away from the choices you made when you actually played through the first time? It's all well and good murdering the corrupt deputy commissioner who has you by the balls and getting him off your back permanently, but would the temptation of the $20,000 for following his order to shoot his junkie brother prove influential in your decision if there was a real reason for you to profit from the killing? there isn't a right or good decision in killing any of them. derrick just used you, he was a police informant (confirmed by packie and the lcpd database)and killed his former friend(s), he even ratted out himself to save his ass. he isn't so different from francis. francis at least pays you for this sh*t (blood brothers), derrick just puts some kind of "friendship-we're-the-same-reason" in front of it. and you can see niko isn't too happy about helping derrick or killing francis. theres no real use for money in this game lol ,after killing derrick you get the option to call up francis and clear your wanted level ,thats worth more to me than the money hahaha Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/459397-niko-hiding-to-packie-he-killed-one-of-his-brother/page/2/#findComment-1060208362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceRay Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 Michelle wasn't a cop. She was a criminal, but she had to work for the UL Paper just like Niko did. The ULP seems to be a secretive branch of the government that uses conspiracy to get their plans done. They usually look for criminals who could easily be blackmailed to carry out their plans. Since they wanted to use Niko, they used Michelle to get information out of him to blackmail him. Since they have knowledge of Niko's criminal acts, they use this to blackmail him into doing what they want. This might make them seem like another enemy for Niko at first, but you can see that Niko and the ULP eventually share some type of "friendship." In return for Niko's work, they promised him the capture of the man Niko was looking for. Niko doesn't know exactly whether it was Florian Cravic or Darko Brevic that was responsible for killing his twelve friends. The ULP successfully tracked down Florian, but Niko found out it wasn't him. That would lead to the eventual capture of Darko Brevic; this happened because of the ULP. If it wasn't for the ULP, Niko would probably not have found Darko. Michelle was in the same predicament as Niko. She was blackmailed into getting information out of Niko. Finally, someone who understands Michelle! everyone is like 'oh she's a cop I hate her' but really she's the same as Niko Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/459397-niko-hiding-to-packie-he-killed-one-of-his-brother/page/2/#findComment-1060208374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TenAte108 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 On 10/9/2010 at 7:35 PM, cidamelo said: zoo3891 I still don't know why much hate on Ray, it seems people hate Ray Boccino more than Jimmy Pegorino! I think Ray is the best character of GTA IV! Didn't he snitch on Gerald that's why he been to Alderny Prison? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/459397-niko-hiding-to-packie-he-killed-one-of-his-brother/page/2/#findComment-1072000259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Ryan. Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Holy necrobump. AceRay. Now there’s a name I haven’t seen in years and it looks like this thread was made only a few days after he joined. 2010 feels like a lifetime ago. Anyway I since I’m here I always assumed Niko didn’t tell Packie is because he (Packie I mean) didn’t really care since he wasn’t particularly close to either or he may have suspected Niko was behind the killing and just never brought it up. Either way I don’t think it was necessary and I like that the writers kind of left it to interpretation. You could feel bad for Packie or just simply move on and accept the dog eat dog world that Niko, Packie etc find themselves in on a daily basis. Lord Criminal and MrPikmin16 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/459397-niko-hiding-to-packie-he-killed-one-of-his-brother/page/2/#findComment-1072000331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiejoearmstrong8 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 I think Niko simply had nothing to gain by telling someone (especially someone who he's friends with and friends/hoping to be romantic partner with his sister, who also happens to be a violent criminal gang member) he murdered his brother lol. Luckily he did the job without Packie or anyone else finding out so he just rolled with it. MrPikmin16 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/459397-niko-hiding-to-packie-he-killed-one-of-his-brother/page/2/#findComment-1072001609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subwoofer9446 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 On 10/21/2022 at 8:40 PM, billiejoearmstrong8 said: I think Niko simply had nothing to gain by telling someone (especially someone who he's friends with and friends/hoping to be romantic partner with his sister, who also happens to be a violent criminal gang member) he murdered his brother lol. Luckily he did the job without Packie or anyone else finding out so he just rolled with it. Yeah but it's still kind of f*cked up... Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/459397-niko-hiding-to-packie-he-killed-one-of-his-brother/page/2/#findComment-1072237337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelema93 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Niko was caught between a rock and a hard place. Between a corrupt cop and a murderous heroin junkie. He really should've capped em both and made it look like a double fratricide. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/459397-niko-hiding-to-packie-he-killed-one-of-his-brother/page/2/#findComment-1072237783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiejoearmstrong8 Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 22 hours ago, Subwoofer9446 said: Yeah but it's still kind of f*cked up... True lol. But I guess he's used to carrying around some heavy stuff Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/459397-niko-hiding-to-packie-he-killed-one-of-his-brother/page/2/#findComment-1072238208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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