IE9 Beta causing IV Problems

[Smiler-Online]

GTA IV May have errors when starting after installing IE9 3 & RC,

 

 

FIXED

replace Wininet.dll (in SysWow64) with IE8's wininet.dll file,

to replace it you will have to use a program like Unlocker 1.9.0 x64 to delete the IE9 dll file (which will require a system restart) then ignore the error messages when you get back into Windows, insert the IE8 dll into the syswow64 foler and then restart your system again!

 

syswow64 folder is located at:

C:\Windows\SysWow64

 

Credit to sjaak327 for finding the dll which caused the problem

 

*NOTE*

 

I Would reccomend backing up both dll files (IE8 & IE9 versions)

 

and if you haven't upgraded to IE9 Beta/RC just yet, then make sure that you get the IE8 dll file from your syswow64 folder first.

 

if you have upgraded to IE9 then you may need to restore your computer to get the IE8 files back temporarily whilst you get the IE8 dll file for this fix

 

Good luck!

 

*UPDATE*

@Vista SP2 32bit users

 

Just search in "C:\Windows\Winsxs" folder for wininet.dll and copy version 8.xx

(Arthmx is on Vista SP2 32bit.)

(thanx to Arthmx for the Vista x86 info) Edited February 27, 2011 by smiler_16

[viometrix]

i dont see this as being likely, more likely then not it is coincidence as they do not use any of the same files. i could be wrong, but doubt it. unless it is an ati issue as i believe catalyst may access some elements for its gui, but that shouldnt affect games either unless you run with catalyst open.

[Smiler-Online]

*EDIT*

Fixed find the fix in the first post

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It didn't even start previously, I had to set it to xp sp3 mode and run it from the actual 'LaunchGTAIV.exe' file, the shortcut doesn't work anymore...

 

My bro has a 4870 it works fine for him but my gfwl friend has the same issue as me and he has a 4850

Edited September 16, 2010 by smiler_16

[viometrix]

try uninstalling the ie9 beta and putting everything back the way it was and see what happens. lets just try and rule out the issue.

[Spider-Vice]

Huh, works fine for me and I've got the IE 9 beta.

[Smiler-Online]

*EDIT*

Fixed find the fix in the first post

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Just updated to CCC 10.9 and now I can load from the desktop shortcut again and things seem OK at this point...

 

I'll just try it without the XP SP3 compatability on and see how that goes

 

*UPDATE*

 

Yeah just disabled XP Compatability and things seem fine again

 

the first try I saw in Taskmanager LaunchGTAIV.exe appear then disapear, but then the next 2 times it worked fine from the shortcut without XP Compatability

 

 

*NOTE*

 

Before the 10.9CCC update I couldn't use fraps in IV after installing IE9 (but it still was visible in messenger beta and IE9 beta) but then after the CCC update I can see the fps again now

Edited September 16, 2010 by smiler_16

[viometrix]

i had a feeling it was catalyst. the wrappers that ati / amd uses suck, instead of using their own files they are dependant on other files

[Smiler-Online]

*EDIT*

Fixed find the fix in the first post

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i had a feeling it was catalyst. the wrappers that ati / amd uses suck, instead of using their own files they are dependant on other files

wouldn't surpise me...

 

if Nvidias 4x0 didn't have such high temps I would have gone for one of them because of the better drivers, I have a budget pc that I've built with an Nvidia GPU, and the drivers haven't had any problems so far (I'll have to try installing IE9 on there)

 

*EDIT*

 

The bugs I've seen might be part of the reason why AMD updated the drivers so early this month (I normally expect them around the 23-26th of each month)

Edited September 16, 2010 by smiler_16

[viometrix]

well im glad we were able to isolate the cause (hopefully) and help others that might be experiencing the problem.

[Ebernanut]

 

i dont see this as being likely, more likely then not it is coincidence as they do not use any of the same files. i could be wrong, but doubt it. unless it is an ati issue as i believe catalyst may access some elements for its gui, but that shouldnt affect games either unless you run with catalyst open.

Just for clarification GTA IV at the very least uses the IE flash plugin to integrate RGSC into the main menu so it's possible(though unlikely) that it could cause problems especially if they changed the way that flash is implemented in the beta. It sounds like ATI drivers were part of if not all of the problem(good call), but it wouldn't surprise me if IE and/or flash were involved as well.

[Smiler-Online]

*EDIT*

Fixed find the fix in the first post

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i dont see this as being likely, more likely then not it is coincidence as they do not use any of the same files. i could be wrong, but doubt it. unless it is an ati issue as i believe catalyst may access some elements for its gui, but that shouldnt affect games either unless you run with catalyst open.

Just for clarification GTA IV at the very least uses the IE flash plugin to integrate RGSC into the main menu so it's possible(though unlikely) that it could cause problems especially if they changed the way that flash is implemented in the beta. It sounds like ATI drivers were part of if not all of the problem(good call), but it wouldn't surprise me if IE and/or flash were involved as well.

it wouldn't surprise me if flash had a part to play in this because I am still experiencing minor problems, like when trying to launch the game LaunchIV.exe opens for about 5 seconds then closes and it hasn't even opened RSSC, and sometimes just before its meant to displays the menu it display the message GTAIV.exe has stopped working...

 

although if I get to the menu, things are fine from there on.

Edited September 16, 2010 by smiler_16

[d00d]

Using IE9 beta on Win7 64 bit, no problems to report.

[sjaak327]

Yes there are problems, wininet.dll crashing lauchgtaiv.exe and launcheflc.exe on my system. This after installing IE9. I am removing it now.

 

The entries in the event viewer are specific in this respect.

 

Edit to add, and I happen to not run catalyst, as I own a nvidea. This simply cannot be a conincidence, as the game was working fine before I installed IE9.

 

Well I removed IE9 and the game starts again. The cause is that the new rockstar SC client is having problems with the new IE9 dll's. As using a patch 5 game (which utilises the old rockstar SC client does run normally.

 

Naam van toepassing met fout: LaunchEFLC.exe, versie: 0.1.0.8, tijdstempel: 0x00000000

Naam van module met fout: WININET.dll, versie: 9.0.7930.16406, tijdstempel: 0x4c7e044e

Uitzonderingscode: 0xc0000005

Foutoffset: 0x0000e958

Id van proces met fout: 0x1514

Starttijd van toepassing met fout: 0x01cb559baf6441e2

Pad naar toepassing met fout: D:\spellen\Rockstar Games\EFLC\LaunchEFLC.exe

Pad naar module met fout: C:\Windows\syswow64\WININET.dll

Rapport-id: ee9e0ea1-c18e-11df-8c1b-0009dd5027de

 

The same happens with launchgtaiv.exe

 

I am unable to start EFLC or GTAIV patch 2/7, I can only start GTAIV patch 5 (using the old rockstar social club client).

 

 

 

 

Edited September 16, 2010 by sjaak327

[Smiler-Online]

*EDIT*

Fixed find the fix in the first post

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Yes there are problems, wininet.dll crashing lauchgtaiv.exe and launcheflc.exe on my system. This after installing IE9. I am removing it now.

 

The entries in the event viewer are specific in this respect.

Thanx for letting us know

 

*UPDATE*

 

It turns out that the flash update didn't fix anything, IV just happened to Have a lucky startup when I last posted

 

*EDIT*

@d00d

 

As the topic description says, IT DOES NOT AFFECT EVERYONE

 

but as I said in a previous post, after installing IE9, both me and a friend of my'n had exactly the same problem, although my brother didn't have that problem.

 

 

PS:

Me, My bro & my mate all have W7 x64 & IE9

Edited September 16, 2010 by smiler_16

[sjaak327]

Setting compatiblity to xp sp3 doesn't solve the issue for me, the game starts, and after the black screen I get an appcrash.

 

Seems I will need to get rid of IE9, as I already tried that and it worked. A real shame, as I really like IE9.

 

 

[Smiler-Online]

*EDIT*

Fixed find the fix in the first post

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Setting compatiblity to xp sp3 doesn't solve the issue for me, the game starts, and after the black screen I get an appcrash.

 

Seems I will need to get rid of IE9, as I already tried that and it worked. A real shame, as I really like IE9.

Yeah, it turns out that doesn't work for me... I just thought that my problems were solved because it actually launched into the game and I could play again, but then next time I tried to start the game I had the same problem of either RSSC not starting or if it does start the game crashes just before GFWL Says that I'm online...

 

 

Unfortunately I haven't found a fix yet, but I have decided that if I have to then I'll just stop playing GTA, because I really like IE9 and I browse the web almost all the time, I play gta once every couple of days when my friends are online...

Edited September 16, 2010 by smiler_16

[sjaak327]

Setting compatiblity to xp sp3 doesn't solve the issue for me, the game starts, and after the black screen I get an appcrash.

 

Seems I will need to get rid of IE9, as I already tried that and it worked. A real shame, as I really like IE9.

Yeah, it turns out that doesn't work for me... I just thought that my problems were solved because it actually launched into the game and I could play again, but then next time I tried to start the game I had the same problem of either RSSC not starting or if it does start the game crashes just before GFWL Says that I'm online...

 

 

Unfortunately I haven't found a fix yet, but I have decided that if I have to then I'll just stop playing GTA, because I really like IE9 and I browse the web almost all the time, I play gta once every couple of days when my friends are online...

Ha, well for me both are must have apps, but if one has got to go, it will be IE9. I already reverted back to a system state prior to installing IE9, and the game runs fine. Went back to IE9 installed and the problems are re-occuring.

 

 

[Smiler-Online]

*EDIT*

Fixed find the fix in the first post

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Ha, well for me both are must have apps, but if one has got to go, it will be IE9. I already reverted back to a system state prior to installing IE9, and the game runs fine. Went back to IE9 installed and the problems are re-occuring.

 

I really hope that we can find out what system files are causing this big problem... I like IE9 too much to lose it, but I will miss a quick mess about in free roam on GTA (or even the Bomb da Base 2 mission)

 

BTW, what are your current hardware specs?

Edited September 16, 2010 by smiler_16

[sjaak327]

Ha, well for me both are must have apps, but if one has got to go, it will be IE9. I already reverted back to a system state prior to installing IE9, and the game runs fine. Went back to IE9 installed and the problems are re-occuring.

 

I really hope that we can find out what system files are causing this big problem... I like IE9 too much to lose it, but I will miss a quick mess about in free roam on GTA (or even the Bomb da Base 2 mission)

 

BTW, what are your current hardware specs?

My hardware specs:

 

I7 920, 6GB, Nvidea GTX260 1.8 GB, Windows 7 X64.

 

I already contacted Rockstar about this issue, and for now have reverted back to IE8, which solves the issue.

 

 

[Smiler-Online]

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Fixed find the fix in the first post

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I7 920, 6GB, Nvidea GTX260 1.8 GB, Windows 7 X64.

Well, thats interesting, me you & my mate all have Intel CPU's & W7 x64 and suffer from this problem, where as my bro has an AMD Phenom 9850 & W7 x64 and that runs GTA IV and IE9 along side each other fine

 

PS, my mates rig is:

 

Intel Q9650

ATI 4850 1GB

4GB of RAM

Edited September 16, 2010 by smiler_16

[Smiler-Online]

FIXED

 

 

Just got GTAIV to boot into game 3 times with no problems now (whilst still having IE9 installed)

 

I replaced WinINet.DLL (in SysWow64) with the old version, (taken from my secondary computers install of W7 x64)

 

to replace it you will have to use a program like Unlocker 1.9.0 x64 to delete the buggy file (which will require a system restart) then ignore the error messages when you get back into Windows, insert the old DLL into the SysWow64 foler and then restart your system again!

 

SysWow64 folder is located at:

C:\Windows\SysWow64

[sjaak327]

 

FIXED

 

 

Just got GTAIV to boot into game 3 times with no problems now (whilst still having IE9 installed)

 

I replaced WinINet.DLL (in SysWow64) with the old version, (taken from my secondary computers install of W7 x64)

 

to replace it you will have to use a program like Unlocker 1.9.0 x64 to delete the buggy file (which will require a system restart) then ignore the error messages when you get back into Windows, insert the old DLL into the SysWow64 foler and then restart your system again!

 

SysWow64 folder is located at:

C:\Windows\SysWow64

Nice, I was actually trying that now, however, you might want to put wininet.dll into your IV directory, as certainly you will have some other problems with IE along the way.

 

DLL's are loaded at current directory first, this way you fool the game into loading the old wininet.dll, whilst all other programs will utilize the new wininet.dll.

 

 

Edited September 16, 2010 by sjaak327

[Smiler-Online]

 

Nice, I was actually trying that now, however, you might want to put wininet.dll into your IV directory, as certainly you will have some other problems with IE along the way.

 

DLL's are loaded at current directory first, this way you fool the game into loading the old wininet.dll, whilst all other programs will utilize the new wininet.dll.

Thanx

 

BTW, Thank you for letting us know what DLL was causing your error, I wouldn't have even tried this fix if you didn't let us know what dll it was

 

So thanx again!

 

*UPDATE*

 

Just tried putting IE9's DLL into IV's folder but IV still loads fine, so I think that I may have to continue with the replaced dll in the SysWow64 folder

 

 

*Update #2*

 

Well, I managed to play IV online for 10 mins with no problem (in the airport with 15 other people and there was even a few idiots spawning loads of cars and other things)

 

and I've been using the web fine, the GPU acceloration is still fine, Iim on here with IE9 now, I've watched a Youtube video in HD and that plays fine

 

to be honest, I don't think that there is anything that this has had any negetive effect on, and even if I did find any bugs, by the time I do I'm sure MS or RS would have found some way to fix the bugs that I was getting with the IE9 DLL

Edited September 16, 2010 by smiler_16

[sjaak327]

 

Nice, I was actually trying that now, however, you might want to put wininet.dll into your IV directory, as certainly you will have some other problems with IE along the way.

 

DLL's are loaded at current directory first, this way you fool the game into loading the old wininet.dll, whilst all other programs will utilize the new wininet.dll.

Thanx

 

BTW, Thank you for letting us know what DLL was causing your error, I wouldn't have even tried this fix if you didn't let us know what dll it was

 

So thanx again!

 

*UPDATE*

 

Just tried putting IE9's DLL into IV's folder but IV still loads fine, so I think that I may have to continue with the replaced dll in the SysWow64 folder

Putting it in IV's directory doesn't work unfortunately.

 

it is still using the one in syswow64, allthough I have placed the dll in the gtaiv directory, this is probably caused by Filesystem Redirection . A way around is to make a batch file that renames one dll into the other when the game is running, this requires you to become owner of the file in syswow64.

 

I believe there is a way to disable filesystem redirection for a single app.

 

Edit to add, I still cannot start the game, it still crashes after the black loading screen.

[Smiler-Online]

I dont think that you can use a redirection with this particular DLL, I tried even using a utility which is supposed to delete any file, even if its in use, but it didn't work, it could only delete when the system is restarting unfortunately... I think that too many apps use this file to delete it whilst the system is running

[sjaak327]

I dont think that you can use a redirection with this particular DLL, I tried even using a utility which is supposed to delete any file, even if its in use, but it didn't work, it could only delete when the system is restarting unfortunately... I think that too many apps use this file to delete it whilst the system is running

I was able to delete the file on runtime just fine (after I made myself owner that is).

 

I did a full restart after replacing the file, and indeed verified that the winint.dll I"m now using is the old one, and I was able to start the game. Like I said above, the next MS update might easily replace this file again, so I am hoping that R will look into this issue. (allthough the cause in this case is IE9).

 

For now I guess at least this allows us to run both the game and IE9, but I don't consider this a reliable fix.

 

 

[Smiler-Online]

I dont think that you can use a redirection with this particular DLL, I tried even using a utility which is supposed to delete any file, even if its in use, but it didn't work, it could only delete when the system is restarting unfortunately... I think that too many apps use this file to delete it whilst the system is running

I was able to delete the file on runtime just fine (after I made myself owner that is).

 

I did a full restart after replacing the file, and indeed verified that the winint.dll I"m now using is the old one, and I was able to start the game. Like I said above, the next MS update might easily replace this file again, so I am hoping that R will look into this issue. (allthough the cause in this case is IE9).

 

For now I guess at least this allows us to run both the game and IE9, but I don't consider this a reliable fix.

Its a temp fix, but it does the job for the time being.

 

 

and if MS do update this and cause the problem to come back, I have a backup now of IE8's dll, so I can just delete the IE9 version and put IE8's back

[Arthmx]

Just search in "C:\Windows\Winsxs" folder for wininet.dll and copy version 8.xx

Also i'm on Vista SP2 32bit.

[xDodox]

thx man. It works!

[personman_145]

I tried the workaround in 64-bit Vista and no luck.

 

I found an 8.0 version of wininet.dll in c:\windows\winsxs, and replaced the one in SysWOW64. I get errors on boot and GTA still fails to run, so i switched it back.

 

Maybe I'll look at trying a restore or something.