cidamelo Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 Hi friends, I don't understand why Niko doesn't like Ray Boccino. He was a good guy to Niko, he even gave him a house in Alderney, and he trusted Niko and brought him to work to the Pegorino Family. But in "Catch the Wave", Niko said to Phil Bell he doesn't like Ray. And the moment I most regret in the whole GTA was when I had to kill Ray. I don't know why Jimmy Pegorino thought Ray was a rat. I think that Phil Bell is jealous of Raymond. I wanted to kill Phil, the game should give us the opition!!Do you think Ray Boccino looks like an older Claude Speed? I think, Claude is hotter anyway, but both are tall, charming and brunettes. And who was the woman Ray Boccino was talking to the phone, in the mission Museum Piece? I am jealous Obs.: Please people, let's talk only about Ray Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/459057-raymond-ray-boccino/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynical Penguin Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 I enjoyed killing Ray. There was something about him I never liked and besides, he didn't trust Niko because in the mission where you killed Ray Pegorino said Ray hired Bodyguards because he didn't trust Niko. But yes, Ray was pretty cool... While he lasted. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/459057-raymond-ray-boccino/#findComment-1060123429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidamelo Posted September 12, 2010 Author Share Posted September 12, 2010 Cynical Penguin why didn't you like him? He was cool, and he was good to Niko, he couldn't not trust him, but anyway he was right, because Niko killed him . I like him very much, he is my favorite character of GTA IV Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/459057-raymond-ray-boccino/#findComment-1060123458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynical Penguin Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 Bump! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/459057-raymond-ray-boccino/#findComment-1060123464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidamelo Posted September 13, 2010 Author Share Posted September 13, 2010 I think Niko was very bad to kill Ray. I'm so sad because he killed him, he was cool to Niko, I don't know why Niko doesn't like him. And Jimmy is crazy!. People, don't you think Ray looks older than 35 years? He seems to be in this 50's! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/459057-raymond-ray-boccino/#findComment-1060123479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynical Penguin Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Ray seemed too good to be true, and yes I hated Jimmy, He offered a pretty cool final mission though, I chose revenge btw. If you like Ray so much then get GTAIV for PC and get his model and turn all the other Pedestrians into him. Play as him if u want, I'm sure there's a Mod for that somewhere. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/459057-raymond-ray-boccino/#findComment-1060123490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidamelo Posted September 13, 2010 Author Share Posted September 13, 2010 I don't think so, Ray seemed to be a classy and well polited man, I love him . It would be awesome, I want this MOD!!! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/459057-raymond-ray-boccino/#findComment-1060123542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynical Penguin Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 I don't think so, Ray seemed to be a classy and well polited man, I love him . It would be awesome, I want this MOD!!! Well I don't think you can get Ray but check anyways. http://www.gtagarage.com/mods/browse.php?C...g&Dir=DESC&st=0 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/459057-raymond-ray-boccino/#findComment-1060123557 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Scratch Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Ray was a moron,a goon as Johnny called him Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/459057-raymond-ray-boccino/#findComment-1060123865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidamelo Posted September 13, 2010 Author Share Posted September 13, 2010 Cynical Penguin thank you, I'll search! VF94 Why is he? And I don't like Johnny! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/459057-raymond-ray-boccino/#findComment-1060124276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Anonymous Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Cynical Penguin thank you, I'll search!VF94 Why is he? And I don't like Johnny! I think you might like him as soon as you play through Grand Theft Auto IV's: The Lost and Damned story. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/459057-raymond-ray-boccino/#findComment-1060124329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidamelo Posted September 13, 2010 Author Share Posted September 13, 2010 Mr.Anonymous I haven't bought EFLC yet, but I'm crazy to play it!! But I don't like Johnny Klebitz, at least in the GTA IV storyline Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/459057-raymond-ray-boccino/#findComment-1060124335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WF the Hobgoblin Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 All the Claude Speed bs aside, i agree with cidamelo. I always liked Niko and thought he was a decent, fair guy but i still can't understand his attitude towards Ray. For a slimy gangster, i always thought Ray seemed like a pretty honest guy. He was always straight with Niko. Right from the get-go, all Ray promised Niko was that he had work for him and that he'd pay, helping him find Florian was a bonus and nothing more than a maybe. Niko was civil to him up until a few missions in and then was suddenly pissed at Ray because he hadn't helped find who he was looking for. Eventually Ray came through for him and helped him find Florian and still Niko never appreciated him. When it comes to him or Phil, i would say Phil was the nicer guy but I don't think Ray was a rat and didn't deserve to get whacked. I'd say Boccino's character model looks mid 40's. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/459057-raymond-ray-boccino/#findComment-1060124353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidamelo Posted September 13, 2010 Author Share Posted September 13, 2010 Hi WF the Hobgoblin! I'm glad you like Ray, he is an awesome and stylish character! I like Niko very much too, but I never could understand why he didn't like Ray. Ray was a good guy, even that sometimes he could get angry, he was a well-polited man! Ray helped Niko a lot, and I don't know why Jimmy thought he was a rat. I think it's prejudice, because he was very classy and well-polited. I know a lot of well-polited people like Ray, who is seen like a false person, just because most people don't trust in well-polited people like Ray. Yes, he looks like he is in the 40's. Men that time were very stylish ! Do you think he reminds an older Claude Speed? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/459057-raymond-ray-boccino/#findComment-1060124425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
toni cinpriani Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 I enjoyed to f*ck up that moron Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/459057-raymond-ray-boccino/#findComment-1060124427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidamelo Posted September 13, 2010 Author Share Posted September 13, 2010 (edited) toni cinpriani why don't you like him? Is it something he did in The Lost And Damned? I haven't played it yet, but at least in GTA IV, he is awesome!! Edited September 13, 2010 by cidamelo Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/459057-raymond-ray-boccino/#findComment-1060124444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
toni cinpriani Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 toni cinpriani why don't you like him? Is it something he did in The Lost And Damned? I haven't played it yet, but at least in GTA IV, he is awesome!! Yeah, he f*cking killed Jim and , I really liked that guy Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/459057-raymond-ray-boccino/#findComment-1060124466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WF the Hobgoblin Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 I liked Johnny and Jim too, but to be fair, they stole Ray's money. And technically, Niko killed Jim. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/459057-raymond-ray-boccino/#findComment-1060124476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
toni cinpriani Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 I liked Johnny and Jim too, but to be fair, they stole Ray's money. And technically, Niko killed Jim. yeah maybe you're right. ( But they needed money) Edit: yeah, but Ray asked Niko Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/459057-raymond-ray-boccino/#findComment-1060124482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidamelo Posted September 13, 2010 Author Share Posted September 13, 2010 toni cinpriani When I play The Lost And Damned, I'll see if I will still like Ray or not. But, at least in GTA IV, he seems to be very nice, and Johnny Klebitz seems to be bad. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/459057-raymond-ray-boccino/#findComment-1060124492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WF the Hobgoblin Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 I liked Johnny and Jim too, but to be fair, they stole Ray's money. And technically, Niko killed Jim. yeah maybe you're right. ( But they needed money) Edit: yeah, but Ray asked Niko Phil also asked Niko to do it. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/459057-raymond-ray-boccino/#findComment-1060124509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownBear Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Ray was a snake, he used charm and wit to sneak past peoples defences and manipulate them into doing his bidding, luckily Niko saw through him. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/459057-raymond-ray-boccino/#findComment-1060124558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzalez Syndicate Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Ray Boccino, quite frankly, would be better off piling the money in the middle of the floor and setting fire to it. At least then, he could make some s'mores. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/459057-raymond-ray-boccino/#findComment-1060124741 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynical Penguin Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 I had a feeling that Ray was gonna have to be killed since I saw him, it seems like most people Niko associates with end up dead. Playboy X (or Dwayne) get killed by Niko, Francis or Derrick and judging by the choice you make in the last mission, Kate or Roman. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/459057-raymond-ray-boccino/#findComment-1060124777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Anonymous Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 Ray was a snake, he used charm and wit to sneak past peoples defences and manipulate them into doing his bidding, luckily Niko saw through him. You mean, just as he did with Ashley Butler ? And wasn't it actually Jimmy Pegorino who saw trough him and Niko Bellic had just followed his order executing Ray Boccino ? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/459057-raymond-ray-boccino/#findComment-1060125641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash_735 Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 I didn't mind Ray in GTA IV, thought he was a bit up himself, but after Playing The Lost and Damned, he was such a prick in the way he treated the Bikers, treated them like scum, dirt, etc, no wonder they ripped him off! Also for what he did with Ashley! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/459057-raymond-ray-boccino/#findComment-1060125857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidamelo Posted September 14, 2010 Author Share Posted September 14, 2010 Ok people, when I play TLAD I'll see if Ray is really that bad. And who is Ashley? Is she that crackhead that appears in Taking The Trash? She's ugly, what have Ray seen on her ? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/459057-raymond-ray-boccino/#findComment-1060125979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyla Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 I liked Ray Boccino. His character was sculpted very well and the best example of a modern mobster, street level anyway, in the series so far. There's no second guessing with him. No sugar coating. No halo. It's clear to see what scum he is from day one. He feeds addictions for his own personal and profitable gains and doesn't care about making sacrifices when it comes to taking the heat off of himself. Given his ambitious and greedy nature one would assume he would possibly get rid of Jimmy Pegorino and take over the family himself if things weren't falling apart, but it wasn't to be. It's also interesting how many gangs he's involved with; the McReary's, the Lost, and the Dominicans in Leftwood and Northwood. What's to say he wasn't ratting out the Pegorino's to one of the other mob families, for instance the Gambetti's, seen as he seems to have interests in areas that one wouldn't expect seen as he's from the wrong side of the river such as Broker and Algonquin. I'm sure he would jump ship given the chance rather than taking control of a sinking vessel. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/459057-raymond-ray-boccino/#findComment-1060126253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRex Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 I don't think so, Ray seemed to be a classy and well polited man, I love him . It would be awesome, I want this MOD!!! Ray, that bastard killed Jim from Lost and Damned. Well, atleast his goons did and he tortured him with that incendiary device. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/459057-raymond-ray-boccino/#findComment-1060126586 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidamelo Posted September 15, 2010 Author Share Posted September 15, 2010 Tyla I didn't understand.........Did you say Ray Boccino had some business with the Gambetti Family? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/459057-raymond-ray-boccino/#findComment-1060127173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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