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ugotsmoked

but there are thousands of them, you cant avoid them and there is way too many to keep track

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but there are thousands of them, you cant avoid them and there is way too many to keep track

@ ugotsmoked

Of course there are to many.

But it is proving a point to a certain degree that normal players, yes i say normal players that do not cheat in any way should not have to back down to those less worthy thus needing to mod and change the entire atmosphere of the game play and making others fear them, hence why they stop playing because they/we are getting sick of constantly being frozen ever 5 minutes.

 

I won't state that every modder freezes lobbies, but it is bad enough that there are modder's out there who do it just to get a reaction out of other's or because they are down right jack asses with no life.

 

 

I just don't understand why R* took the time to work with GTA IV to stop modders, but then with TBOGT, which is played online even more than the other two titles combined, and they sit back and let it happen. They know what goes on, with complaints, reports on XBL etc. and R* employees playing themselves, but yet a year later and nothing's changed in tbogt, apart from patching harmless glitches.

 

I think what your doing Xtreme is good, i mean even if nobody else is really doing anything about it at least we have a kind of record of who to avoid. Because really why should we suffer and have to quit games just because there are some people who can't accept what they have, they need to mod and hack to feel good about themselves.

@SmC12

Thank you for understanding where i am coming from, it is appreciated that someone can see my point of view. Also, you are right about it is still good to list modder's down because it is indeed a reference on which players to avoid and so on.

I'm not saying that once/if they get banned they won't just go out and buy another console, make a new G-Tag and start modding again. But i say, listing down the G-Tags of all modders i find has purpose for at least that reason that SmC stated.

 

By the way, new Tags.

 

• rasher45

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KarbzKartel

There has been alot of controversy while I was gone; much appreciated to all of those that have been keeping this topic strong and have been sharing positive conversations. I understand that this modding plague has been getting worst and certain modders that are present on this topic have been getting cocky to users that have been trying bring no-gooders to justice.

 

Now; as lazy as R* are and as ignorant and immature certain users can be on this forum, this dialemma continues to show it's ugly head. Now the Modding phenomenon is still present but alot of players have moved to Black Op's now.

 

Most modders (console modders) are generally community outcast's with no purpose at all on the game. They are but people that need to cheat to acheive their goals on a system and they tend to get smart with you when they have reached ''Victory''. But in reality they have lost miserably for the reason being they needed to implement unfair elements in their game to dominate the situation that they were facing. But on the contrary, there are modders that manipulate their game for ''fun'' purposes. I respect their proposition but as we all know; there are rules and rules are not ment to be broken but if they are there are consequences.

 

Now I hope people understand this situation from my perspective and I know sooner or later there are going to be specific users that will bad-mouth and be immature about this post and will try to abuse me or other users. I say grow up and give an descriptive and mature opinion or comment of why you agree or disagree with someones reason or comment.

 

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@DDX-GTA You should be online more you run this topic better

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fixer1986

I'm finally glad somebody is trying to do something about these pricks!!! I've been filing complaints for awhile now every time I see a modder. I never wrote they GT down but now I am. I was in a nice FM on TBOGT all was nice no modders then towards the end this prick came in an ruined it all... He did the speed thing with the car, 100 rockets at once with the buzzard etc... and kept killing everyone... I left can't take this crap anymore. I pay to play online and this is the crap I/we get?

 

You'd figure because we pay that MS would really come down on this garbage... guess not but here's hoping anyway I wrote the GT down of the Modder...

 

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XTREME0235

 

I pay to play online and this is the crap I/we get?

Exactly, the more the merrier i say.

 

It's just getting ridiculous now,

XTREME0235.

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Tufu

Why is everyone on this topic on under the same inane illusion that freezing causes RROD? Let’s review what the three lights actually mean (according to this: http://www.llamma.com/xbox360/repair/Xbox-...rror-codes.htm) it is a "General hardware failure". If anyone around here had any decent knowledge of ICT, you would have realised that software and hardware are separated in any machine. We can assume that GTA IV is software and the physical XBOX 360 is hardware. The freezing is the result of a fatal software error in the game. A fatal error is a mere error that forces a program to abort, because the XBOX 360 OS is not designed like any conventional OS (no user applications allowed and no unsigned code) the developers never saw a need to include any better error recovery (since all applications would be tested) therefore the entire software side of things freezes up when an error like this occurs, it freezes up just like Fallout: Las Vegas does due to glitches. Due to such a graceful separation of hardware and software, the XBOX still remains perfectly powered on even after a freeze, the fan still operating as normal and clearly the hardware is unaffected. Freezes are not enough to cause a general hardware failure of any extent because it's just the same as continuously turning your XBOX on and off every 5 minutes (probably longer) which does nothing. Hopefully now you people can see how ridiculous it would be to suggest that GTA IV modders cause general hardware failures, as to suggest this is also to suggest that Fallout: New Vegas also causes general hardware failures (then why haven't Microsoft requested that all XBOX 360s that have suffered freezing from Fallout: New Vegas glitches be returned for repair? Because fatal errors just do not cause hardware failures).

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Why is everyone on this topic on under the same inane illusion that freezing causes RROD? Let’s review what the three lights actually mean (according to this: http://www.llamma.com/xbox360/repair/Xbox-...rror-codes.htm) it is a "General hardware failure". If anyone around here had any decent knowledge of ICT, you would have realised that software and hardware are separated in any machine. We can assume that GTA IV is software and the physical XBOX 360 is hardware. The freezing is the result of a fatal software error in the game. A fatal error is a mere error that forces a program to abort, because the XBOX 360 OS is not designed like any conventional OS (no user applications allowed and no unsigned code) the developers never saw a need to include any better error recovery (since all applications would be tested) therefore the entire software side of things freezes up when an error like this occurs, it freezes up just like Fallout: Las Vegas does due to glitches. Due to such a graceful separation of hardware and software, the XBOX still remains perfectly powered on even after a freeze, the fan still operating as normal and clearly the hardware is unaffected. Freezes are not enough to cause a general hardware failure of any extent because it's just the same as continuously turning your XBOX on and off every 5 minutes (probably longer) which does nothing. Hopefully now you people can see how ridiculous it would be to suggest that GTA IV modders cause general hardware failures, as to suggest this is also to suggest that Fallout: New Vegas also causes general hardware failures (then why haven't Microsoft requested that all XBOX 360s that have suffered freezing from Fallout: New Vegas glitches be returned for repair? Because fatal errors just do not cause hardware failures).

So your basically backing up the modders?

Freezing up your console still does hurt it. It doesnt mean that youll get the 3 RROD but you can still f*ck it up pretty badly.

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So your basically backing up the modders?

Freezing up your console still does hurt it. It doesnt mean that youll get the 3 RROD but you can still f*ck it up pretty badly.

What makes you believe I'm supporting the modders? I'm merely drawing my conclusion on factual evidence. Do you have any evidence to suggest significant problems from (aside from the inconvenience) freezing? Assumptions aren't welcome and I've already explained that it is highly unlikely XBOX 360 hardware errors would be caused by XBOX 360 freezing.

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Modding in the UK is a criminal offence if they maliciously intend to hinder the use of a computer program and not long ago a 17 year old was arrested for modding CoD and preventing others from using the multiplayer.

 

(S.3 Computer Misuse Act.)

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Modding in the UK is a criminal offence if they maliciously intend to hinder the use of a computer program and not long ago a 17 year old was arrested for modding CoD and preventing others from using the multiplayer.

 

(S.3 Computer Misuse Act.)

This is one prime example of why computer/console misuse is inappropiate.

 

It is stated on these forums that R* have implemented individual servers on the PC version for people who have mods and for people who don't. What some Modders do not realise is that Modding on consoles especially is an offense, for the fact that it is going against Microsoft's Code of Conduct. This means that Modding is unacceptable.

 

The primal purpose for this topic was to help stop the modding plague that swept across TBoGT because I and many other players were sick and tired of illmannered, immature individuals that thought they have power over the game because they have illegal mods. Distribution of these mods for illegal purposes (Modding Console Games) is also an offense. (This does not apply for the PC version)

 

Now im surprised how childish this topic has become; for instance I have noticed that various modders (Not all) are trying to rebel against people who are trying to correct a predicament which was caused by people who just can't follow the rules.

 

If you want to Mod; get the PC version. Don't make other players suffer because of your insubordination.

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Modding in the UK is a criminal offence if they maliciously intend to hinder the use of a computer program and not long ago a 17 year old was arrested for modding CoD and preventing others from using the multiplayer.

 

(S.3 Computer Misuse Act.)

This is one prime example of why computer/console misuse is inappropiate.

 

It is stated on these forums that R* have implemented individual servers on the PC version for people who have mods and for people who don't. What some Modders do not realise is that Modding on consoles especially is an offense, for the fact that it is going against Microsoft's Code of Conduct. This means that Modding is unacceptable.

 

The primal purpose for this topic was to help stop the modding plague that swept across TBoGT because I and many other players were sick and tired of illmannered, immature individuals that thought they have power over the game because they have illegal mods. Distribution of these mods for illegal purposes (Modding Console Games) is also an offense. (This does not apply for the PC version)

 

Now im surprised how childish this topic has become; for instance I have noticed that various modders (Not all) are trying to rebel against people who are trying to correct a predicament which was caused by people who just can't follow the rules.

 

If you want to Mod; get the PC version. Don't make other players suffer because of your insubordination.

^ This.

 

Not to mention the fact that you are getting these kids (9-12 year olds I will say for reference) that are getting these mods only god knows how, they are making tutorials on you tube about their mods and how to do it and there showing there opened up consoles on a public video hosting website (not saying that the police or a high rated company like Microsoft will catch them down or anything)

 

These kids get all of these mods for there games and abuse the sh*t out of the power that they have and automatically think they are better and more wealthy than any of us legitimate players.

 

That is what pisses me off the most about modders these days, sure the majority of modders are mature and sometimes kind players, but it's getting to the stage where kids within the next few months or years are getting mods and screaming at us like they are better (as stated above)

 

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Tufu

 

This is one prime example of why computer/console misuse is inappropriate.
Surely by buying a plank of wood, we must modify it and change it to make it better? (after all it is our's isn't it?). Since surely that our console is of our possession we should have the God given right to modify it? You don't seem to understand also that by supporting the quoted view, you also agree that PC modding should not be allowed (seeing as anyone can go into multiplayer and commit the same "crimes" on PC multiplayer), this is what we call hypocrisy as we see you state "If you want to Mod; get the PC version. Don't make other players suffer because of your insubordination"

 

 

Now im surprised how childish this topic has become; for instance I have noticed that various modders (Not all) are trying to rebel against people who are trying to correct a predicament which was caused by people who just can't follow the rules.
What rules? There is no rules against stating a mere view and arguing it (isn't debating meant to be carried out in a forum?), like I am doing now. I must also point out the level of ignorance in this thread is also unreal, here is an extract of one of the posters on this thread: "are generally community outcast's with no purpose at all on the game" and "think they are better and more wealthy than any of us legitimate players", not only are you people ignorant and assume false judgements on modders as a whole, but you also behave like some fanatical religous cult, considering any outsiders an indirect evil.

 

 

he primal purpose for this topic was to help stop the modding plague that swept across TBoGT
Any effect that this thread will have on GTA IV modding will be minimal at best, seeing as Rockstar seem to be moving onto more important projects that require attention. I believe you should just really give up - no modder has ever been banned because they modified GTA IV (at least not directly) and they never will be, a patch for GTA IV will also be very unlikely, I think GTA IV is well past its sell-by-date.

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Look, the fact that i stated the following:

 

automatically think they are better and more wealthy than any of us legitimate players.

 

Obviously i do not take it as a confirmed fact, none the less i still believe that the way these people act is just wrong.

You go into a game and meet one ignorant modder and you tell me your opinion about him/her and state that my above quote doesn't have some form of good relevance and a somewhat decent point behind it.

 

I am merely saying that i do not appreciate when 9-12 (example, like before) year olds put on the headset and start talking trash because they have mods and if we don't follow there amendments then they freeze the lobby etc.

 

You make good points Tufu don't get me wrong, but that doesn't change what my/our beliefs are towards modders.

I'm not saying that you are trying to change that, i'm just making you aware of our opinions.

 

XTREME0235.

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MikeWh

I used to mod San Andreas, but when I was on SAMP I used to use a separate install that was clean of mods. That way I upset nobody and I kept within the law. I used to play SAMP and people would have CLEO Mods for gun spawns, emergency light mods that fixed car health and such and it was just unfair for people who wanted to play using the bare bones.

 

I've only got TBoGT and IV for PS3, so I am yet to experience modders, but I do get people who seem to have invincible helicopters and infinite rocket ammo on spawn, probably just lag.

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Tufu
Look, the fact that i stated the following:

 

automatically think they are better and more wealthy than any of us legitimate players.

 

Obviously i do not take it as a confirmed fact, none the less i still believe that the way these people act is just wrong.

You go into a game and meet one ignorant modder and you tell me your opinion about him/her and state that my above quote doesn't have some form of good relevance and a somewhat decent point behind it.

 

I am merely saying that i do not appreciate when 9-12 (example, like before) year olds put on the headset and start talking trash because they have mods and if we don't follow there amendments then they freeze the lobby etc.

 

You make good points Tufu don't get me wrong, but that doesn't change what my/our beliefs are towards modders.

I'm not saying that you are trying to change that, i'm just making you aware of our opinions.

 

XTREME0235.

Surely, I am not ignorant of persistent children within the modding community that seek power, fame and recognition (for nothing might I add) and I am fully aware that one of their methods is abusing power over others. What my corral lies with is not your opinion but you seem to stereotype the entire XBOX 360 modding community (or at least as it appears e.g.) as 9 - 12 year olds (which could not be true considering the amount of technological research that goes - it obviously requires a degree of competence usually not within reach of a 12 year old) and other stereotypes from other individuals throughout this thread such as "Modders like to get insulted by people", I believe it is ignorant to assume that every modder likes to get insulted by people or they are all 12 - 9 year olds.

 

Another thing I pointed out was the inaccurate or poorly backed up claims (little or no evidence) on this thread (such as the freezing causing RROD - see my first post on this topic). If you want a full list of the latest mods for XBOX 360 see here: http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/1065/threadf.jpg, the creator of this thread may find it useful. It's hard to build a house on sand and it would only ever hinder the development of it, I believe this thread should be more factual. Another example is the assumption that 12 compliants will get someone banned, may I make everyone aware that the complaint system is no automated system, everything is carefully checked and a ban will only be issued with there is substantial evidence to support it - not if 12 people complain as to do such a thing would be unfair as being killed by a modder.

 

I hope you understand now that my corral is not with your mission or opinion, but rather its manner of execution (and this is what attracted my attention) which I find somewhat heavy handed (stereotyping) and clumsy (claims)

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Surely, I am not ignorant of persistent children within the modding community that seek power, fame and recognition (for nothing might I add) and I am fully aware that one of their methods is abusing power over others. What my corral lies with is not your opinion but you seem to stereotype the entire XBOX 360 modding community (or at least as it appears e.g.) as 9 - 12 year olds (which could not be true considering the amount of technological research that goes - it obviously requires a degree of competence usually not within reach of a 12 year old) and other stereotypes from other individuals throughout this thread such as "Modders like to get insulted by people", I believe it is ignorant to assume that every modder likes to get insulted by people or they are all 12 - 9 year olds.

 

Another thing I pointed out was the inaccurate or poorly backed up claims (little or no evidence) on this thread (such as the freezing causing RROD - see my first post on this topic). If you want a full list of the latest mods for XBOX 360 see here: http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/1065/threadf.jpg, the creator of this thread may find it useful. It's hard to build a house on sand and it would only ever hinder the development of it, I believe this thread should be more factual. Another example is the assumption that 12 compliants will get someone banned, may I make everyone aware that the complaint system is no automated system, everything is carefully checked and a ban will only be issued with there is substantial evidence to support it - not if 12 people complain as to do such a thing would be unfair as being killed by a modder.

 

I hope you understand now that my corral is not with your mission or opinion, but rather its manner of execution (and this is what attracted my attention) which I find somewhat heavy handed (stereotyping) and clumsy (claims)

I am fully aware of where you are coming from don't get me wrong, i tend to try and not stereotype all modders to the same classification (to the best of my ability of course), those stereotyped factors being liking to be trash-talked to/insulted by others and to receive as much attention as possible, but it almost seems to be that is the case these days. I'm not talking about modders liking to be insulted by others but the age group that is getting a hold of these mods and overall affecting the game play for others. Not just in Grand Theft Auto but in other games as well such as Modern Warfare 2 (completely different manner)

 

I am also fully aware that being frozen in a game can not cause hardware failure, i did not agree with that post at all because i am informed that it is not true. Sure it may seem like it is causing damage at first, but it really is not. As far as i know there is no technical error regarding games being frozen due to one's action that is not supported by the games default purpose.

 

I have said this before and i will say it again,

Sure modifications towards a game can be fun and all because it is adding content towards that particular game according to one's desire to a certain extent, but when you get these younger age groups that get a hold of them weather it be their friend doing it for them or them doing it themselves it really doesn't matter, the point being that these younger age groups specifically are abusing their powers beyond some recognition and it is just wrong according to me.

 

That is just my standards towards (some) modders these days, not all.

 

XTREME0235.

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Look, the fact that i stated the following:

 

automatically think they are better and more wealthy than any of us legitimate players.

 

Obviously i do not take it as a confirmed fact, none the less i still believe that the way these people act is just wrong.

You go into a game and meet one ignorant modder and you tell me your opinion about him/her and state that my above quote doesn't have some form of good relevance and a somewhat decent point behind it.

 

I am merely saying that i do not appreciate when 9-12 (example, like before) year olds put on the headset and start talking trash because they have mods and if we don't follow there amendments then they freeze the lobby etc.

 

You make good points Tufu don't get me wrong, but that doesn't change what my/our beliefs are towards modders.

I'm not saying that you are trying to change that, i'm just making you aware of our opinions.

 

XTREME0235.

Surely, I am not ignorant of persistent children within the modding community that seek power, fame and recognition (for nothing might I add) and I am fully aware that one of their methods is abusing power over others. What my corral lies with is not your opinion but you seem to stereotype the entire XBOX 360 modding community (or at least as it appears e.g.) as 9 - 12 year olds (which could not be true considering the amount of technological research that goes - it obviously requires a degree of competence usually not within reach of a 12 year old) and other stereotypes from other individuals throughout this thread such as "Modders like to get insulted by people", I believe it is ignorant to assume that every modder likes to get insulted by people or they are all 12 - 9 year olds.

 

Another thing I pointed out was the inaccurate or poorly backed up claims (little or no evidence) on this thread (such as the freezing causing RROD - see my first post on this topic). If you want a full list of the latest mods for XBOX 360 see here: http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/1065/threadf.jpg, the creator of this thread may find it useful. It's hard to build a house on sand and it would only ever hinder the development of it, I believe this thread should be more factual. Another example is the assumption that 12 compliants will get someone banned, may I make everyone aware that the complaint system is no automated system, everything is carefully checked and a ban will only be issued with there is substantial evidence to support it - not if 12 people complain as to do such a thing would be unfair as being killed by a modder.

 

I hope you understand now that my corral is not with your mission or opinion, but rather its manner of execution (and this is what attracted my attention) which I find somewhat heavy handed (stereotyping) and clumsy (claims)

Tufu; you hold some good factual advice and possess some impressive explanatory reasons.

 

I'll be sure to edit the first post when I get the chance. Atleast your not like the other illmannered Modders that made a retaliation topic towards this one on another forum.

 

And even after all this controversy, modding on the 360 is against the ToS and if users know it's not tolerated then why do they do it. Tufu I like you; you portray confident posts and is educated on this matter but I have one question: Why did you start modding your Xbox 360? Even if you knew this problem was going to pop-up.

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Tufu

@DDX-GTA

I come from a rather technical background and therefore modifications would naturally compliment that background. When I first saw modifications I was swept up and away with awe and wonder, telling myself "I had to do that". With enough searching on Google I quickly found a basic you-tube video on how to perform the necessary steps and then some links to basic GTA IV mods. I then made my own edits of these mods and improved on them (e.g. the weapon info - an xml file, I was already familiar with this file format), all this was a continuous process of improvement and for the most part, modding was good and fun. 5 modders in one game was unheard and mods themselves were unheard of, there was a lot to show, a lot to tell and a lot of fun for everyone to have. I enjoyed the technical aspect, I slowly developed my knowledge of XBOX 360 and it's systems and slowly gained knowledge about GTA IV itself too, but it was also fun, cool and fantastic - it was a mix of my favourite game and game play coupled with technicality required to make mods made me love them.

 

I don't believe people actually fully take consideration of the TOS, on the Internet people have a certain degree of anonymity that can easily make them immune to sanctions and forms of discipline (such as banning) and if anything it could even encourage what the punishments condemned. I remember Rockstar patching up the RDR game save modifications (obviously I knew it was going to happen, but I believe the way it was executed was somewhat pathetic), they implemented a banning system but the pathetic part was that they offered "repentance" through the user deleting the modified game save and then coming online (and I also believe emailing Rockstar they had done so?) (the reason you had to go online was so that the banning server could contact you), they belittled the modders with their use of language on the news post and treated them like bad men ready to be lynched, this deeply angered me that Rockstar thought they could manipulate their customer base like this and if anything (even though I actually never modified my game save) I would have began encouraging more research into RDR modding. Therefore we can draw the conclusion that people don't really take consideration of these bans at all, they at best would think of it as a mere payment for their fun time with mods.

 

There are so many other reasons why people mod: to extend gameplay, to troll, to be seen as 'cool' or even to be creative and many other things.

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This is one prime example of why computer/console misuse is inappropriate.
Surely by buying a plank of wood, we must modify it and change it to make it better? (after all it is our's isn't it?). Since surely that our console is of our possession we should have the God given right to modify it? You don't seem to understand also that by supporting the quoted view, you also agree that PC modding should not be allowed (seeing as anyone can go into multiplayer and commit the same "crimes" on PC multiplayer), this is what we call hypocrisy as we see you state "If you want to Mod; get the PC version. Don't make other players suffer because of your insubordination"

 

You're very wrong there buddy. Xbox Live and Playstation Network (Not sure about PSN, but I'm sure there are rules), have rules about modding. There are no rules for PC... so people are free to do what they want. Anyway, what do you have to gain from arguing about this topic? Does it make you feel bigger or something?

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You're very wrong there buddy. Xbox Live and Playstation Network (Not sure about PSN, but I'm sure there are rules), have rules about modding. There are no rules for PC... so people are free to do what they want. Anyway, what do you have to gain from arguing about this topic? Does it make you feel bigger or something?
Here is a prime example of the ignorance I'm discussing, the author of this post has revealed his own lack of knowledge of the facts. There are three systems: Xbox Live, Games for Windows Live and Playstation Network. Xbox Live and Games for Windows Live operate under the same TOS found here: http://www.xbox.com/en-us/legal/livetou, to play online in GTA IV you must accept this TOS. Surely by the fact that GTA IV itself has beforehand attempted to patch modding on its PC version shows you that they never wanted any of it modified in the first place, or are you ignorant of that too? You even said you are "not sure", why make a post then if you cannot be bothered to put effort into research and writing?

 

 

what do you have to gain from arguing about this topic?
Isn't a forum open discussion? If you did not want this thread to be challenged then it should have been posted some where, some place privately, like I stated before isn't some of the purposes of forums debating and statement of opinions? Anyone who attempts to bypass the purposes of a forum should not be posting. What have I gained? I've gained satisfaction in the knowledge that the creator of this topic has now taken the time to remove inaccurate fact regarding modders. After all, if you had taken the time to read my previous posts before slamming the add reply button you'd see I stated my reason for being present in this open discussion: "my corral is not with your mission or opinion, but rather its manner of execution" - my corral was over until you posted with inaccurate facts and attempts to poke holes in my post (a bit ridiculous and over precise might I add).

 

 

Does it make you feel bigger or something?
You must be quite angered by modders? I believe it's quite pathetic that you have decided to stoop your post so low to the extent of attempting to personally insult me when everyone else (at least on the previous few pages) were posting their opinions and civilly debating. Edited by Tufu

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ugotsmoked

of course non modders will never understand why someone started modding but I got tired of getting modded all over and I leveled the playing field against the players that abused the power of the buzzard

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GTA 360

There are 2 reasons why I will never consider using Xbox live, they are: The cost and the D1ckheads, and it's not just me that feels this way. So yes I agree, they should be banned, they are actually putting people off using this service.

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GTA:RF

Modders are the ones that don't have the balls to play the real game...

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GTA 360
Modders are the ones that don't have the balls to play the real game...

So much so that they need to make them selves invincible to stop them from dying.

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buzbegone

Tufu, Tomster and XTREME I thought I'd let you guys know that very few people can be f*cked to read your journal entries.

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Tufu

 

Tufu, Tomster and XTREME I thought I'd let you guys know that very few people can be f*cked to read your journal entries.

I'm sorry, would you like me to dumb it down for you simple minded-folk? How about I offer a 10 word summary after every post for those who can't process a few paragraphs in one sitting.

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XTREME0235

 

Tufu, Tomster and XTREME I thought I'd let you guys know that very few people can be f*cked to read your journal entries.

Sorry, i didn't realize that you were the dictator on how one should produce and share their grammar skills.

I will assume that you are the type of individual who skims through text looking for something interesting and yet worthwhile for your standards that is longer than 2 sentences and roughly over 100-200 words.......that's just assuming of course.

 

If you don't like long replied posts with significant relevance then i suggest to you that you start to get over it and read then post or just don't post at all instead of posting irrelevant troll data, that being and i quote "very few people can be f*cked to read your journal entries"

 

Are you sure you don't want to add DDX to that group as he has posts with more than one paragraph on them dozingoff.gif

 

(Not having a go at you DDX, just stating one or more persons that reply with proper significant posts, you being one of them)

XTREME0235.

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Cruzu

I'm new to this forum.

 

I just wanna say that i'm totally agree with XTREME. I'm getting sick of those modders that keep freezing the damn game and get blown by them up! I'm thinking to get back to the original GTA IV without those [email protected]#$% modders!

 

It's a serious problem but it seems nothing can stop them or stopping the freeze war...

 

Regards,

 

Cruzu

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buzbegone

Jesus, I was trying to get you to skim it down so people will actually read it, see what the f*ck you're talking about and pay more attention to the topic. If you want to have a go at me for trying to make your posts more readable, then f*ck you.

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