Snuff Films

[Iminicus]

I found this interesting doco on Youtube about Snuff Films.

 

 

Part 1:

 

 

Part 2:

 

 

Part 3:

 

 

Part 4:

 

 

Part 5:

 

 

Snuff [email protected]

 

 

It is quite an interesting look into one of Film's darkest realms.

 

Thoughts? Theories? Stories of Snuff films?

Edited August 11, 2010 by Iminicus

[makeshyft]

There was one floating around on the Gold Coast last time I was living there... must have been about ten years ago. Led to arrests and serious jailtime.

 

And, well, the girl in it never came home.

[Iminicus]

Shifting through the internet, I've come across links to 'snuff' films but never actually checked them out. I'm curious to see if they exist but at the same time....well, the whole concept is intriguing to say the least.

 

 

Would you watch one? I think many people would say they will due to desensitization and movies like Hostel and the Saw series but I dunno. Makes you feel bad for jurors who are required to watch filmed murders.

[makeshyft]

I think morbid curiosity gets the better of most people. That combined with ease of delivery. If someone handed me a videotape and said it was a snuff film, would I take it? Probably not. But if someone sent me a link to one, I have to admit that it would be hard to not click on it. Part of it hinges on how easy it is to access it. How many motions you have to go through in order to see it.

[OH NO]

Do not watch Three guys one hammer.

 

Just dont.

 

Forget I even mentioned it.

[WF the Hobgoblin]

The idea that snuff films would be nothing more than an urban legend never occurred to me.

 

I had assumed that there were plenty of them around and you only had to know where to look.

[makeshyft]

The assertion is that commercially-produced snuff films are the stuff of legend. Makes sense, because everyone involved in making and distributing it would go to jail. Same with rape and incest.

 

However, there's nothing stopping someone filming an illegal act, and, as we all know, modern technology handles the distribution.

Edited August 11, 2010 by makeshyft

[Canofceleri]

Of course they exist, I've seen plenty of them on charonboat and here and there. August Underground is a fake trilogy, some people think those are cool... didn't do much for me.

[Tyler]

I really need to see Cannibal Holocaust. The Japanese films don't interest me as much, but the simple fact of watching an actual snuff film would be damn near enough to change you. Now I'm pretty sure we have all seen death on camera or real life, but a planned torturous murder, I really don't know what I would make of it.

 

As far as watching one on the internet, yeah, they could be just clicks away. But, the real sick thought is that a high-brow group of business men from your town could be sitting somewhere watching a movie about a helpless victim being tortured, well, it does give me some thought as to the amount of decency we as humans have.

 

It was a good watch, thanks Iminicus.

[Oxidizer]

I'd be more surprised if one didn't exist.

 

Though it all depends on what someone defines as a snuff film; personally, I class snuff as a film of someone being raped and murdered - in that order, otherwise it would be plain necrophilia.

 

I don't class a film of someone being tortured to death or simply murdered to be snuff either; that's just an average video of someone being killed - which is easily available online. It's nothing rare and its existence isn't even in question.

 

No, snuff has to be pornographic for my liking. And the closest to anything I've seen of that caliber is a crush video; the animals in question weren't sexually abused (thank God), but the intent of the footage was clear by the fetishistic nature of the film.

[Tyler]

Somehow I knew Oxidizer would post here. I don't see your point though. If the person is just shot to death, no snuff, but penetrated and then shot is snuff?

 

Well, when I think about it, any sort of snuff film I was about to throw at you did involve fornication, so in a way I'll agree with you. But let me say now, that just exemplifies how horrible the person who videotapes the event is.

[trip]

Wasn't there some sort of famous one from the 60s that was real?

 

The ,Bud Dwyer, blowing his brains out on live TV(sometime in the 80s) might count as a snuff film. Or snuff clip at least.

 

Why would anyone want to see someone die? Thats just wrong...

[Canofceleri]

 

Why would anyone want to see someone die?  Thats just wrong...

Curiosity (from Latin curiosus "careful, diligent, curious," akin to cura "care") is an emotion related to natural inquisitive behavior such as exploration, investigation, and learning, evident by observation in human and many animal species. The term can also be used to denote the behavior itself being caused by the emotion of curiosity. As this emotion represents a drive to know new things, curiosity is the fuel of science and all other disciplines of human study.

-Wikipedia

[Oxidizer]

 

Somehow I knew Oxidizer would post here.

 

Well, a snuff film is meant to be sexual, otherwise it's just a video of a murder - which are ten a penny. It's meant to be pornographic in that its main purpose is to arose the viewer.

[Moth]

Wait, I thought a Snuff film was a movie like saw or something and all of its scenes that show case death would be real, in that people would actually be dieing for entertainment proposes. I just like to think of Manhunt the game where the point of the game was to film one.

[Tetsuo2501]

If you've seen one mother f*cker get shot in the head, or his throat slit, you've seen em all.

 

It's fairly easy to come by films of people dying, rather it be from a historic stand point, or purely for morbid curiosity.

[Otter]

I'll echo Oxidizer by saying that I've always taken 'snuff film' to mean death of a sexual sort, epressly done for the film. Murders on video aren't all that rare; I thank Christ I haven't had the misfortune of watching the Dnepropetrovsk maniacs.

 

Some things - you just can't unsee. Some fences shouldn't be hopped.

[Weirdo.]

Murders on video aren't all that rare;

What about suicides on video? I know I have one on my hard drive where this guy blows his brains out in a police station.

[trip]

Why would anyone want to see someone die?  Thats just wrong...

Curiosity (from Latin curiosus "careful, diligent, curious," akin to cura "care") is an emotion related to natural inquisitive behavior such as exploration, investigation, and learning, evident by observation in human and many animal species. The term can also be used to denote the behavior itself being caused by the emotion of curiosity. As this emotion represents a drive to know new things, curiosity is the fuel of science and all other disciplines of human study.

-Wikipedia

So there is an inherited trait in people that makes them curious to see someone's life disappear? I must have missed that gene. Or maybe I just disagree with you

 

I've seen death. I was never curious as to what death or a dead person looks like, and the things I have seen did not satisfy any need for me to fulfill my life.

 

Snuff films would be to satisfy the curiosity of murder. Are you really curious to see someone get murdered?

[tuareg]

Yes, videos portaying murder aren't rare. Actual full length movies showing the same...that's something different.

 

Anything can happen and the world's pretty f*cked up for something like this to exist, but until i see a real snuff movie i'll lean towards there not being any.

[Oxidizer]

 

I thank Christ I haven't had the misfortune of watching the Dnepropetrovsk maniacs.

Although it's not pretty, it's not as bad as I expected it would be, because - although it is real - it looks fake; the blood's an acryllic red and the body itself looks like a prosphetic. Which kind of took me out of the moment (not that I enjoy sadistic crimes against humanity...).

 

Some things - you just can't unsee.

Like your disturbing sig.

[Iminicus]

HUGE f*ckING WARNING! THE FOLLOWING SITE IS NOT SAFE FOR WORK AND IS EXTREMELY GRAPHIC.

 

Graphic Video NSFW 18+

 

 

The above video isn't a snuff film but it does show real murder. I suppose you could argue that someone could get off to that, which might deem it snuff, but I doubt the people responsible for filming intended that.

 

HUGE f*ckING WARNING! THE PREVIOUS SITE IS NOT SAFE FOR WORK AND IS EXTREMELY GRAPHIC.

 

 

 

I am not responsible if you are disgusted with the video. I hold no responsibility for you watching it.

[James_Earl_Cash]

That link will probably get removed.

 

The term "snuff film" is a very specific concept. It means a feature-length film, somewhat professionally produced and commercially sold, of people being murdered on purpose for fun/sexual arousement. Budd Dwyer is not a snuff film. Dnepropetrovsk Maniacs is not a snuff film. August Underground (if it was real) is not a snuff film. Manhunt is a snuff film, but it isn't real, of course. I highly doubt there has ever been a real snuff film made, but who knows what goes on in some of the dark, seedy corners of the world.

[Oxidizer]

^ Word.

 

It just seems more unbelievable that there hasn't been a film of a rape and murder made yet. There's got to be at least one somewhere in the world, given how depraved a lot of the people living in it are. And it's not exactly the most creative or original idea for a pervert to have; to sexually abuse and murder someone and film it.

 

 

Graphic Video NSFW 18+

 

The above video isn't a snuff film but it does show real murder. I suppose you could argue that someone could get off to that, which might deem it snuff, but I doubt the people responsible for filming intended that.

Little terrors!

[arsenal_fan]

I thank Christ I haven't had the misfortune of watching the Dnepropetrovsk maniacs.

Although it's not pretty, it's not as bad as I expected it would be, because - although it is real - it looks fake; the blood's an acryllic red and the body itself looks like a prosphetic. Which kind of took me out of the moment (not that I enjoy sadistic crimes against humanity...).

 

Some things - you just can't unsee.

Like your disturbing sig.

This is true, I mean if you watch the Dwyer video when he shoots himself, its ridiculous how much blood rushes out of his nose, looks rushing waterfall.

[BrownBear]

There must be snuff films circulating deep in the seedy corners of the world, i could imagine the worst parts of Russia, Poland, parts of Africa and South America being responsible for a few snuff films.

 

 

[nerner]

There must be snuff films circulating deep in the seedy corners of the world, i could imagine the worst parts of Russia, Poland, parts of Africa and South America being responsible for a few snuff films.

I'd actually expect it to be more of a western phenomena. As although there are more murders in those places, and more are caught on video, I don't think that they buy into the urban myth at all, certainly not as much as we do. The most likely place for a snuff film to be shot would be in a place where there are lots of illegally trafficked immigrants, like a British port city, which also has a seedy pornographic underground.

 

But if one were to be made, why? Since it is trivially easy today to produce a film that simulates a murder in a believable way, there is little commercial incentive to risk the legal repercussions of producing a film in which a murder is actually committed, much less documented on film. The makers of Cannibal Holocaust went to extreme lengths to make their film look like a snuff, including making the lead actors disappear for 5 years of their own accord. "The flower of flesh and blood" is another film which was so good at being a snuff, people overlooked the flaws in it's production, like the rubbish special effects.

 

Also, I watched this documentary a few months back now and I think I still have a coy on my hard drive. There should be a link to the full version somewhere on google video.

[trip]

You gotta like weird coincidences. I'm a big fan of 'The Bathroom Reader' books, and would you believe while this topic was active I ended up reading an article on legends that included the legend of snuff films.

 

Here is the scan from the book. An actual book!!

 

[JOSEPH X]

Back in the day when VHS started you could get pirated movies from this guy near me. My mate got a snuff movie from him and I unfortunately watched it. It was American but filmed in Columbia I think, basically a pretty girl getting drugged, raped, amputated then opened up while she was alive. I couldn't have been more than 12 when I watched it and the word "snuff" was being used in the media to describe movies like "The Hills have Eyes" and I ran out of my mates house at the part where she got opened up.

 

We have something called "finer feelings" which can never be repaired once injured by viewing something like that. The violence or horror in video games doesn't even get close to a person's finer feelings, but the real life vids that are out there can really do damage. Things like "The Many Faces of Death" or "Fanatics, Terrorists and Middle East Wackos" - just avoid that sh*t.

[Iminicus]

Back in the day when VHS started you could get pirated movies from this guy near me. My mate got a snuff movie from him and I unfortunately watched it. It was American but filmed in Columbia I think, basically a pretty girl getting drugged, raped, amputated then opened up while she was alive. I couldn't have been more than 12 when I watched it and the word "snuff" was being used in the media to describe movies like "The Hills have Eyes" and I ran out of my mates house at the part where she got opened up.

 

We have something called "finer feelings" which can never be repaired once injured by viewing something like that. The violence or horror in video games doesn't even get close to a person's finer feelings, but the real life vids that are out there can really do damage. Things like "The Many Faces of Death" or "Fanatics, Terrorists and Middle East Wackos" - just avoid that sh*t.

Snuff films is generally applied to movies that are made to create sexual arousal in the audience and that are sold for money.

 

Having done some research, I have concluded that actual snuff films don't seem to exist. I would be interested in finding out more and locating one. However, I doubt this would be possible.