Is this an good PC for gta IV

[yoječ]

DDR3 and DDR2 don't make much difference.

 

This PC from eBay is IMHO outbalanced - 1090T is not a good deal for money. I'd rather go with Xeon X3440 (Core i7 860 with lowered multipler), which is both cheaper and after OC it beats 1090T's overclocked ass.

And no-name 480W PSU for GTX470 in SLI? I LOL'd pretty hard. There is no way that 480W would be enough, let alone it's no-name PSU so its watts actually mean nothing.

Edited August 10, 2010 by yojo2

[anus]

Okay this is what ya do. Go here and scroll down till you see a green button which says 'Click to customise PC now', click on that and it should take you to the customising area.

 

Then just choose the following parts (parts I have not mentioned, leave it as it is):

 

Intel i7 CPU: Intel Core i7 930

 

Intel i7 Motherboards: Asus Rampage III Gene

 

DDR3 Triple Channel Memory: 6GB (3x2GB) PC3 12800 DDR3 1600 Triple Channel

 

PCI-Express Video Cards: GeForce GTX465 1GB

 

1st Optical Drive: LG 22x SATA DVD Recorder Dual Layer +R/RW -R/RW

 

Cases Micro ATX: NZXT Vulcan

 

Power Supply: Thermaltake TR2 600W ultra quiet ATX power supply, SLI & X-Fire ready

 

Operating system: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit DVD

 

Total: $1504.

 

This PC is much faster than the PC you posted and the one Gilly posted as well. Should be able to run IV and pretty much every game out there at high settings without a hitch.

[NCONiall]

Yup i'd recommend what Warlord posted that will do you for a couple of years

[yoječ]

Yeah, that one's very good. Well, maybe I'd go with some better PSU (build quality wise, not watts) and GTX460 1GB which is (suprisingly) better than GTX465 1GB, but since the offer is quite limited, this one will do the job well too.

[anus]

Yeah man, I was gonna recommmend the GTX460 too but the seller only offers the 768MB version and the 5850 is much more expensive. So the 465 seemed like the way to go.

[Rachpoil]

With the new patch 7 for GTA IV, i think you should go with a fast 2GB graphic card if you want a much better experience and a very fast i7 CPU + 6GB of system memory. I have a feeling that 1GB of graphic memory is not enough with the new shadows introduced in patch 7 even if you play below 1920x1080 resolution. You would need to pay an extra $200 but it will be worth it if you can spare it.

 

Here is a good 2GB graphic card that could do the job well:

HD 5850 2GB

 

I did no spend time looking around for a better price but it can help you as reference in your search if you decide to go for it. You can buy the PC Warlord recommend (it is a very good spec and price) but without the video card and buy a good 2GB card separately. Video cards are very easy to install.

Edited August 11, 2010 by Rachpoil

[Garfield 2]

http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Gamer_Ultra_9000/

 

Shouldn't have problems with IV - Phenom X6 (Downgrade'able if you want to pay less).

 

Optimal computer for IV would be a Quad-Core (2.5GHz at least), 4GB RAM, GTS250 / HD5770 range card.

[AlfieWilRus]

Okay this is what ya do. Go here and scroll down till you see a green button which says 'Click to customise PC now', click on that and it should take you to the customising area.

 

Then just choose the following parts (parts I have not mentioned, leave it as it is):

 

Intel i7 CPU: Intel Core i7 930

 

Intel i7 Motherboards: Asus Rampage III Gene

 

DDR3 Triple Channel Memory: 6GB (3x2GB) PC3 12800 DDR3 1600 Triple Channel

 

PCI-Express Video Cards: GeForce GTX465 1GB

 

1st Optical Drive: LG 22x SATA DVD Recorder Dual Layer +R/RW -R/RW

 

Cases Micro ATX: NZXT Vulcan

 

Power Supply: Thermaltake TR2 600W ultra quiet ATX power supply, SLI & X-Fire ready

 

Operating system: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit DVD

 

Total: $1504.

 

This PC is much faster than the PC you posted and the one Gilly posted as well. Should be able to run IV and pretty much every game out there at high settings without a hitch.

Ok, 1,504 is acceptable. I just ordered it. It should be with me in a week. Thanks for the tips guys, especially warlord.

[IVSA_Guy]

Make sure you will not max the Shadows in patch 7

Otherwise you'll get a slow ass FPS because of the 1GB version.

[anus]

No problem man. Enjoy the PC.

 

Oh and about the 2GB card, yeah I was trying to squeeze in a 2GB card but they ended up being too expensive. 1GB should suffice with IV as long as the game isn't run on a very high res maxed out.

[IVSA_Guy]

No problem man. Enjoy the PC.

 

Oh and about the 2GB card, yeah I was trying to squeeze in a 2GB card but they ended up being too expensive. 1GB should suffice with IV as long as the game isn't run on a very high res maxed out.

Yeah, GTA4 loves unlimited VRAM.

 

[Rachpoil]

Well a GTX 465 is a very solid GPU; it should do a great job at high quality shadow setting especially coupled with a i7 930 CPU. Even if the shadows may not be set to very high GTA IV will look awesome on that rig. Warlord did a superb job finding a PC with those specs at that price. I will definitely visit that eBay seller for my next PC.

 

A thing i have not considered is that AlfieWilRus seems to live in Indonesia; finding a fast and cheap 2GB GPU over there must not be obvious. Chopping around with some one else money is not the same than when it is your hard earned money in question.

 

Enjoy your new PC AlfieWilRus! You will not be disappointed.

Edited August 11, 2010 by Rachpoil

[AlfieWilRus]

No problem man. Enjoy the PC.

 

Oh and about the 2GB card, yeah I was trying to squeeze in a 2GB card but they ended up being too expensive. 1GB should suffice with IV as long as the game isn't run on a very high res maxed out.

Ok.

[AlfieWilRus]

 

Well a GTX 465 is a very solid GPU; it should do a great job at high quality shadow setting especially coupled with a i7 930 CPU. Even if the shadows may not be set to very high GTA IV will look awesome on that rig. Warlord did a superb job finding a PC with those specs at that price. I will definitely visit that eBay seller for my next PC.

 

A thing i have not considered is that AlfieWilRus seems to live in Indonesia; finding a fast and cheap 2GB GPU over there must not be obvious. Chopping around with some one else money is not the same than when it is your hard earned money in question.

 

Enjoy your new PC AlfieWilRus! You will not be disappointed. 

I hope I will too because my girlfriend is pissed at me for spending so much.

 

Edit: In Indonesia it isn't that hard to find fast PCs as long as you live in Jakarta, Surabaya or other major cities. The hard part is finding original games. I had to spend 2,000,000 Rupiahs (Indo Currency) to buy an orginal Gta IV copy for PC. 2 mil rupiahs is about 190 dollars!

Edited August 12, 2010 by AlfieWilRus

[Weirdo.]

 

Ok, so if I get this computer and install Win 7 Ultimate all I have to do is just install IV and I'm good to go?

Compatibility modes are key here. Set the install executable and every .exe in the main install folder to 'Windows XP SP3 Compatibility Mode'. Otherwise, you'll just crash and burn during the install. This can be done by right-clicking on an .exe file, then selecting 'Properties'. This picture should explain the rest:

 

http://a.imageshack.us/img339/2226/instructionbook.png

[Garfield 2]

$190? I LOL'D hard. You can buy an Xbox 360 + GTA IV for that much in Ireland. (GameStop has pre-owned Xbox 360 for €110 + any game.

[anus]

Well a GTX 465 is a very solid GPU; it should do a great job at high quality shadow setting especially coupled with a i7 930 CPU. Even if the shadows may not be set to very high GTA IV will look awesome on that rig. Warlord did a superb job finding a PC with those specs at that price. I will definitely visit that eBay seller for my next PC.

 

A thing i have not considered is that AlfieWilRus seems to live in Indonesia; finding a fast and cheap 2GB GPU over there must not be obvious. Chopping around with some one else money is not the same than when it is your hard earned money in question.

 

Enjoy your new PC AlfieWilRus! You will not be disappointed. 

I hope I will too because my girlfriend is pissed at me for spending so much.

 

Edit: In Indonesia it isn't that hard to find fast PCs as long as you live in Jakarta, Surabaya or other major cities. The hard part is finding original games. I had to spend 2,000,000 Rupiahs (Indo Currency) to buy an orginal Gta IV copy for PC. 2 mil rupiahs is about 190 dollars!

You could've just bought IV from eBay India and had it for way cheaper since India gets a much cheaper version of the game.

 

If genuine games cost that much locally, just get them shipping from nearby countries which have genuines.

[AlfieWilRus]

Well a GTX 465 is a very solid GPU; it should do a great job at high quality shadow setting especially coupled with a i7 930 CPU. Even if the shadows may not be set to very high GTA IV will look awesome on that rig. Warlord did a superb job finding a PC with those specs at that price. I will definitely visit that eBay seller for my next PC.

 

A thing i have not considered is that AlfieWilRus seems to live in Indonesia; finding a fast and cheap 2GB GPU over there must not be obvious. Chopping around with some one else money is not the same than when it is your hard earned money in question.

 

Enjoy your new PC AlfieWilRus! You will not be disappointed. 

I hope I will too because my girlfriend is pissed at me for spending so much.

 

Edit: In Indonesia it isn't that hard to find fast PCs as long as you live in Jakarta, Surabaya or other major cities. The hard part is finding original games. I had to spend 2,000,000 Rupiahs (Indo Currency) to buy an orginal Gta IV copy for PC. 2 mil rupiahs is about 190 dollars!

You could've just bought IV from eBay India and had it for way cheaper since India gets a much cheaper version of the game.

 

If genuine games cost that much locally, just get them shipping from nearby countries which have genuines.

@ Warlord:Our neighbour countries are a bit weird. Singapoure has an enourmous amount of laws/rules, like you can't chew gum unless you have a doctors prescription and we have bad relations with malaysia and in Taiwan they ban GTA IV.

 

@Garfield 2: Yeah, it is really expensive. Also its really hard to find non-hacked ps3s. Because all the PS3 games they have here are pirated and the PS3s here are hacked to play the pirate games but I have something against pirate games and consoles in that I will not touch them. But you can buy movies here for 10,000 Rupiah= about a buck and they will play just fine, with farely decent quality.

[Garfield 2]

Well a GTX 465 is a very solid GPU; it should do a great job at high quality shadow setting especially coupled with a i7 930 CPU. Even if the shadows may not be set to very high GTA IV will look awesome on that rig. Warlord did a superb job finding a PC with those specs at that price. I will definitely visit that eBay seller for my next PC.

 

A thing i have not considered is that AlfieWilRus seems to live in Indonesia; finding a fast and cheap 2GB GPU over there must not be obvious. Chopping around with some one else money is not the same than when it is your hard earned money in question.

 

Enjoy your new PC AlfieWilRus! You will not be disappointed. 

I hope I will too because my girlfriend is pissed at me for spending so much.

 

Edit: In Indonesia it isn't that hard to find fast PCs as long as you live in Jakarta, Surabaya or other major cities. The hard part is finding original games. I had to spend 2,000,000 Rupiahs (Indo Currency) to buy an orginal Gta IV copy for PC. 2 mil rupiahs is about 190 dollars!

You could've just bought IV from eBay India and had it for way cheaper since India gets a much cheaper version of the game.

 

If genuine games cost that much locally, just get them shipping from nearby countries which have genuines.

@ Warlord:Our neighbour countries are a bit weird. Singapoure has an enourmous amount of laws/rules, like you can't chew gum unless you have a doctors prescription and we have bad relations with malaysia and in Taiwan they ban GTA IV.

 

@Garfield 2: Yeah, it is really expensive. Also its really hard to find non-hacked ps3s. Because all the PS3 games they have here are pirated and the PS3s here are hacked to play the pirate games but I have something against pirate games and consoles in that I will not touch them. But you can buy movies here for 10,000 Rupiah= about a buck and they will play just fine, with farely decent quality.

Modded PS3? BS.

Xbox 360 I can believe but not a PS3 - It would be possible to get pirated games here as well.

 

[AlfieWilRus]

Well a GTX 465 is a very solid GPU; it should do a great job at high quality shadow setting especially coupled with a i7 930 CPU. Even if the shadows may not be set to very high GTA IV will look awesome on that rig. Warlord did a superb job finding a PC with those specs at that price. I will definitely visit that eBay seller for my next PC.

 

A thing i have not considered is that AlfieWilRus seems to live in Indonesia; finding a fast and cheap 2GB GPU over there must not be obvious. Chopping around with some one else money is not the same than when it is your hard earned money in question.

 

Enjoy your new PC AlfieWilRus! You will not be disappointed. 

I hope I will too because my girlfriend is pissed at me for spending so much.

 

Edit: In Indonesia it isn't that hard to find fast PCs as long as you live in Jakarta, Surabaya or other major cities. The hard part is finding original games. I had to spend 2,000,000 Rupiahs (Indo Currency) to buy an orginal Gta IV copy for PC. 2 mil rupiahs is about 190 dollars!

You could've just bought IV from eBay India and had it for way cheaper since India gets a much cheaper version of the game.

 

If genuine games cost that much locally, just get them shipping from nearby countries which have genuines.

@ Warlord:Our neighbour countries are a bit weird. Singapoure has an enourmous amount of laws/rules, like you can't chew gum unless you have a doctors prescription and we have bad relations with malaysia and in Taiwan they ban GTA IV.

 

@Garfield 2: Yeah, it is really expensive. Also its really hard to find non-hacked ps3s. Because all the PS3 games they have here are pirated and the PS3s here are hacked to play the pirate games but I have something against pirate games and consoles in that I will not touch them. But you can buy movies here for 10,000 Rupiah= about a buck and they will play just fine, with farely decent quality.

Modded PS3? BS.

Xbox 360 I can believe but not a PS3 - It would be possible to get pirated games here as well.

No, its true. They mod/hack (i'm not really sure what they do) so that the Ps3s can play pirated PS3 games.

[Ultraman1966]

Well a GTX 465 is a very solid GPU; it should do a great job at high quality shadow setting especially coupled with a i7 930 CPU. Even if the shadows may not be set to very high GTA IV will look awesome on that rig. Warlord did a superb job finding a PC with those specs at that price. I will definitely visit that eBay seller for my next PC.

 

A thing i have not considered is that AlfieWilRus seems to live in Indonesia; finding a fast and cheap 2GB GPU over there must not be obvious. Chopping around with some one else money is not the same than when it is your hard earned money in question.

 

Enjoy your new PC AlfieWilRus! You will not be disappointed.

I think you've made a grave mistake there, the 465 is a terrible graphics card; the GTX 460, however is absolute beast for the same price.

 

Do NOT, under any circumstances get the GTX 465 because it runs hotter and slower than the GTX 460. The 465 is completely obsolete and should be disregarded.

[anus]

 

Well a GTX 465 is a very solid GPU; it should do a great job at high quality shadow setting especially coupled with a i7 930 CPU. Even if the shadows may not be set to very high GTA IV will look awesome on that rig. Warlord did a superb job finding a PC with those specs at that price. I will definitely visit that eBay seller for my next PC.

 

A thing i have not considered is that AlfieWilRus seems to live in Indonesia; finding a fast and cheap 2GB GPU over there must not be obvious. Chopping around with some one else money is not the same than when it is your hard earned money in question.

 

Enjoy your new PC AlfieWilRus! You will not be disappointed. 

I think you've made a grave mistake there, the 465 is a terrible graphics card; the GTX 460, however is absolute beast for the same price.

 

Do NOT, under any circumstances get the GTX 465 because it runs hotter and slower than the GTX 460. The 465 is completely obsolete and should be disregarded.

The 465 is on par with the 460 performance wise with the 465 being faster in certain benches and 460 being faster in some.

 

The main issue is that the 465 consumes a bit more power than the 460 and produces more heat as it's based on Fermi. I wouldn't go so far as to call it terrible simply due to this.

 

Besides, the 465 was the best card available for his budget. The 460 was cheaper but it was the 768MB version and the 1GB version wasn't available.

[AlfieWilRus]

Well a GTX 465 is a very solid GPU; it should do a great job at high quality shadow setting especially coupled with a i7 930 CPU. Even if the shadows may not be set to very high GTA IV will look awesome on that rig. Warlord did a superb job finding a PC with those specs at that price. I will definitely visit that eBay seller for my next PC.

 

A thing i have not considered is that AlfieWilRus seems to live in Indonesia; finding a fast and cheap 2GB GPU over there must not be obvious. Chopping around with some one else money is not the same than when it is your hard earned money in question.

 

Enjoy your new PC AlfieWilRus! You will not be disappointed. 

I think you've made a grave mistake there, the 465 is a terrible graphics card; the GTX 460, however is absolute beast for the same price.

 

Do NOT, under any circumstances get the GTX 465 because it runs hotter and slower than the GTX 460. The 465 is completely obsolete and should be disregarded.

The 465 is on par with the 460 performance wise with the 465 being faster in certain benches and 460 being faster in some.

 

The main issue is that the 465 consumes a bit more power than the 460 and produces more heat as it's based on Fermi. I wouldn't go so far as to call it terrible simply due to this.

 

Besides, the 465 was the best card available for his budget. The 460 was cheaper but it was the 768MB version and the 1GB version wasn't available.

So should I put a small fan next to the desktop when I use it? I know there are already internel fans but just to be safe should I use a small one blowing next to the desktop?

[Ultraman1966]

 

The 465 is on par with the 460 performance wise with the 465 being faster in certain benches and 460 being faster in some.

 

The main issue is that the 465 consumes a bit more power than the 460 and produces more heat as it's based on Fermi. I wouldn't go so far as to call it terrible simply due to this.

 

Besides, the 465 was the best card available for his budget. The 460 was cheaper but it was the 768MB version and the 1GB version wasn't available.

It's terrible because it's in the exact same price bracket but uses far more energy and runs hotter. The latter is most important because nearly all GTX460 can be overclocked to near GTX470 performance BUT still run cooler than the GTX465 running at stock. It's a no brainer.

Edited August 12, 2010 by Ultraman1966

[Rachpoil]

 

Well a GTX 465 is a very solid GPU; it should do a great job at high quality shadow setting especially coupled with a i7 930 CPU. Even if the shadows may not be set to very high GTA IV will look awesome on that rig. Warlord did a superb job finding a PC with those specs at that price. I will definitely visit that eBay seller for my next PC.

 

A thing i have not considered is that AlfieWilRus seems to live in Indonesia; finding a fast and cheap 2GB GPU over there must not be obvious. Chopping around with some one else money is not the same than when it is your hard earned money in question.

 

Enjoy your new PC AlfieWilRus! You will not be disappointed. 

I think you've made a grave mistake there, the 465 is a terrible graphics card; the GTX 460, however is absolute beast for the same price.

 

Do NOT, under any circumstances get the GTX 465 because it runs hotter and slower than the GTX 460. The 465 is completely obsolete and should be disregarded.

The 465 is on par with the 460 performance wise with the 465 being faster in certain benches and 460 being faster in some.

 

The main issue is that the 465 consumes a bit more power than the 460 and produces more heat as it's based on Fermi. I wouldn't go so far as to call it terrible simply due to this.

 

Besides, the 465 was the best card available for his budget. The 460 was cheaper but it was the 768MB version and the 1GB version wasn't available.

So should I put a small fan next to the desktop when I use it? I know there are already internel fans but just to be safe should I use a small one blowing next to the desktop?

Punting an external fan blowing at your PC would not hurt for sure but it will not make much of a difference to the internal intake fan blowing air inside your PC.

 

Think of it as being inside an outdoor windowed room on a hot sunny day with intake and exhaust fans. Even if it is really windy outside it will not affect much the performance of the intake fans.

 

If your PC case has allot of intake fans (holes) and your external fan is powerful you would them have a small benefit but it would be extremely noisy. What makes the difference is how fast the wind current is inside your PC and how well the hot air is exhausted.

Edited August 12, 2010 by Rachpoil

[anus]

The 465 is on par with the 460 performance wise with the 465 being faster in certain benches and 460 being faster in some.

 

The main issue is that the 465 consumes a bit more power than the 460 and produces more heat as it's based on Fermi. I wouldn't go so far as to call it terrible simply due to this.

 

Besides, the 465 was the best card available for his budget. The 460 was cheaper but it was the 768MB version and the 1GB version wasn't available.

It's terrible because it's in the exact same price bracket but uses far more energy and runs hotter. The latter is most important because nearly all GTX460 can be overclocked to near GTX470 performance BUT still run cooler than the GTX465 running at stock. It's a no brainer.

In his case, the 465 was the best option. The next best alternative was the HD5850 which was much more expensive and out of budget.

 

I understand that the 465 does run a bit hotter and consume more power than the 460, but in terms of performance they are on par. Besides, he might be able to unlock it to a GTX470 which is much faster than a GTX460.

 

@AlfieWilRus, While a desktop fan would help, it's not a must.

 

The case I picked out comes with two 120mm and one 200mm fan which should be able to keep the system cool.

[AlfieWilRus]

The 465 is on par with the 460 performance wise with the 465 being faster in certain benches and 460 being faster in some.

 

The main issue is that the 465 consumes a bit more power than the 460 and produces more heat as it's based on Fermi. I wouldn't go so far as to call it terrible simply due to this.

 

Besides, the 465 was the best card available for his budget. The 460 was cheaper but it was the 768MB version and the 1GB version wasn't available.

It's terrible because it's in the exact same price bracket but uses far more energy and runs hotter. The latter is most important because nearly all GTX460 can be overclocked to near GTX470 performance BUT still run cooler than the GTX465 running at stock. It's a no brainer.

In his case, the 465 was the best option. The next best alternative was the HD5850 which was much more expensive and out of budget.

 

I understand that the 465 does run a bit hotter and consume more power than the 460, but in terms of performance they are on par. Besides, he might be able to unlock it to a GTX470 which is much faster than a GTX460.

 

@AlfieWilRus, While a desktop fan would help, it's not a must.

 

The case I picked out comes with two 120mm and one 200mm fan which should be able to keep the system cool.

Ok, but I'll just use an external fan just in case. I've had a laptop fry on me because I didn't realise the fan wasn't blowing. Also, do yo have any good anti-virus programs I could get?

[NCONiall]

 

Also, do yo have any good anti-virus programs I could get?

Kaspersky is the best IMHO .

[IVSA_Guy]

Why not getting a GTX 580?

Its alot faster and cause less heat.

Make sure you go for atleast 1GB version.

[anus]

The 465 is on par with the 460 performance wise with the 465 being faster in certain benches and 460 being faster in some.

 

The main issue is that the 465 consumes a bit more power than the 460 and produces more heat as it's based on Fermi. I wouldn't go so far as to call it terrible simply due to this.

 

Besides, the 465 was the best card available for his budget. The 460 was cheaper but it was the 768MB version and the 1GB version wasn't available.

It's terrible because it's in the exact same price bracket but uses far more energy and runs hotter. The latter is most important because nearly all GTX460 can be overclocked to near GTX470 performance BUT still run cooler than the GTX465 running at stock. It's a no brainer.

In his case, the 465 was the best option. The next best alternative was the HD5850 which was much more expensive and out of budget.

 

I understand that the 465 does run a bit hotter and consume more power than the 460, but in terms of performance they are on par. Besides, he might be able to unlock it to a GTX470 which is much faster than a GTX460.

 

@AlfieWilRus, While a desktop fan would help, it's not a must.

 

The case I picked out comes with two 120mm and one 200mm fan which should be able to keep the system cool.

Ok, but I'll just use an external fan just in case. I've had a laptop fry on me because I didn't realise the fan wasn't blowing. Also, do yo have any good anti-virus programs I could get?

AntiVir is what I use. Best antivirus by far in tests the last time I checked.