How To Do GTA Anywhere In The World

[GritEngine]

Remember the mission where you go to Liberty City in San Andreas?

 

Now that they did Liberty City in such an utterly cinematic fashion (whole shabang, probably every angle you can look at Algonquin is a famous movie shot even), Rockstar has met that opportunity to take it outside of its "safe cities" - that is, the same places everyone else in the worldwide entertainment biz create their entertainment.

 

Game starts, on a boat or plane leaving liberty, sort of like CJ did.

 

Goes anywhere from there. That is done a lot in movies that are done for the world audience and not just nationally. Their presentation is that strong now, I think they could do it.

 

I still think, as a purist, that the core of GTA is LC, VC, SA, and I want those two places to come again, but, they could do it, and it'd be pretty cool.

[Shark_Cipriani]

Agreed, I would like to see a different city. It would be fresh. But I am obsessed over Vice City, so VC comes first then, anywhere else!

[QwertyAAA]

The thing isn't about the setting itself. It's that the setting must be complemented by the plotline and its details must provide a social commentary that would be relevant to its audience.

Edited August 15, 2010 by QwertyAAA

[GritEngine]

I am the #1 person who says this game cannot exist outside of the places it already does, for that exact reason, so I'm with you.

 

But that is how they do that in movies... they start with a character in NY, then go to the foreign place, and instead of the whole world being like that, it's usually the world focused on the character from NY, and still relevant.

 

It was like, a compromise on my own values to even think of it lol

[QwertyAAA]

Ah, but you see, a movie is not the same thing as a sandbox game, setting-wise: GTA has to do social commentary because the player will have time to explore the setting. Compare Alpha Protocol and the ability to go to Moscow, which doesn't really matter because it's only slightly graphically different. Ergo, this'd make GTA a sh*tty action game.

[FelipeVinhao]

 

I am the #1 person who says this game cannot exist outside of the places it already does, for that exact reason, so I'm with you.

My opinion is that a GTA game must take place somewhere that is heavily urban. So if it has a city, kilometers of road, and eventually a subway or any rapid transit system, it's fine. It's a game about grand theft AUTO, so we must have a place to steal and drive vehicles, so if it's not a forest, a desert or a tundra, it's ok.

 

There are still many places to be explored. For those who think GTA can't be outside of USA, ok. But even this way there are many places inside USA that could be perfect. And outside USA there are other hundreds, if not thousands of options.

 

It's up to Rockstar guys to decide this. They're making Max Payne 3 out of New York and USA this time.

[maxopower]

 

@QwertyAAA

 

I think you just became my new (and first) favorite member.

 

I agree 100%.

 

Grand Theft Auto is soooo much more than basic story line and the geographic location of the city. though both are impotent. One of the main themes of SA, was the West cost, GTA IV had the East Cost, and VC had the south. I'm sure you could make a "International themed" game, but I can only assume that it would be a lot less detailed.

[meson1]

The thing about the location is that the audience has to be able to identify with it. That's why so far, the majority of the games have been set in parodies of American cities. Because the U.S. exports so many TV programmes and movies, there is a vast worldwide audience that is familiar with the cities in question and American culture in general.

 

Sure there was a brief flirtation with Anywhere City. They've never tried to revisit that. It's difficult to parody something your audience knows nothing about.

 

The only other city they've visited in '60s London, which is probably one of a few non-U.S. landmark cities in the world that they could reasonably expect their audience to identify with.

 

I think distinct character, identity and familiarity are key factors in the choosing of a location.

[FelipeVinhao]

 

The thing about the location is that the audience has to be able to identify with it.  That's why so far, the majority of the games have been set in parodies of American cities.  Because the U.S. exports so many TV programmes and movies, there is a vast worldwide audience that is familiar with the cities in question and American culture in general.

There are other cities that people would recognize easily and not all are on USA - Beijing, Chicago, Hong Kong, Madrid, Moscow, Paris, Rio de Janeiro, St Petersburg, Sydney, Tokyo, Washington DC... to mention some.

 

Until now, Rockstar was very successful choosing the game location, most of them American, one European and one unknown: New York, Miami, San Francisco, London, Los Angeles, Las Vegas, and a fictional unknown city. It they wanna "go out of American", they can and they will.

[patsfan4life]

The thing about the location is that the audience has to be able to identify with it.  That's why so far, the majority of the games have been set in parodies of American cities.  Because the U.S. exports so many TV programmes and movies, there is a vast worldwide audience that is familiar with the cities in question and American culture in general.

There are other cities that people would recognize easily and not all are on USA - Beijing, Chicago, Hong Kong, Madrid, Moscow, Paris, Rio de Janeiro, St Petersburg, Sydney, Tokyo, Washington DC... to mention some.

 

Until now, Rockstar was very successful choosing the game location, most of them American, one European and one unknown: New York, Miami, San Francisco, London, Los Angeles, Las Vegas, and a fictional unknown city. It they wanna "go out of American", they can and they will.

The problem isnt recognizable cities. These cities have crime and are recognizable, but the problem is gang diversity. Thats the reason why US is the best location. Some cities like London, and Paris have diversity, but most of the cities you talked about only have one type of gang, which is why those cities are perfect for espansion packs, but not for entire eras.

[QwertyAAA]

The thing about the location is that the audience has to be able to identify with it.  That's why so far, the majority of the games have been set in parodies of American cities.  Because the U.S. exports so many TV programmes and movies, there is a vast worldwide audience that is familiar with the cities in question and American culture in general.

There are other cities that people would recognize easily and not all are on USA - Beijing, Chicago, Hong Kong, Madrid, Moscow, Paris, Rio de Janeiro, St Petersburg, Sydney, Tokyo, Washington DC... to mention some.

 

Until now, Rockstar was very successful choosing the game location, most of them American, one European and one unknown: New York, Miami, San Francisco, London, Los Angeles, Las Vegas, and a fictional unknown city. It they wanna "go out of American", they can and they will.

The problem isnt recognizable cities. These cities have crime and are recognizable, but the problem is gang diversity. Thats the reason why US is the best location. Some cities like London, and Paris have diversity, but most of the cities you talked about only have one type of gang, which is why those cities are perfect for espansion packs, but not for entire eras.

That is correct - the locales GTA games have been set in up to now have been major immigration or trafficking centres. And diversity of gangs allows for a diversity of storylines - e.g. GTA III would be awful if you could only work for the Leone family, but that is how most GTA-type sandbox games are.

 

Maxopower,

[patsfan4life]

The way I see it, R* can do GTA Europe consisting of London, Paris, and Amsterdam. They can then do several expansion packs of other places in Europe, like Sicily, or maybe Moscow.

[Kwandilibro]

The way I see it, R* can do GTA Europe consisting of London, Paris, and Amsterdam. They can then do several expansion packs of other places in Europe, like Sicily, or maybe Moscow.

Nah, GTA could only be in Europe if it was just London. Anything else would be really awkward.

[patsfan4life]

 

The way I see it, R* can do GTA Europe consisting of London, Paris, and Amsterdam. They can then do several expansion packs of other places in Europe, like Sicily, or maybe Moscow.

Nah, GTA could only be in Europe if it was just London. Anything else would be really awkward.

I dont know about that, because Paris and London are very diverse, like US cities, and Amsterdam pretty much explains itself with the drugs and the red light district. They should probably set the game in the early seventies or early sixties.

Edited August 9, 2010 by patsfan4life

[GTAspotter]

The thing about the location is that the audience has to be able to identify with it.  That's why so far, the majority of the games have been set in parodies of American cities.  Because the U.S. exports so many TV programmes and movies, there is a vast worldwide audience that is familiar with the cities in question and American culture in general.

There are other cities that people would recognize easily and not all are on USA - Beijing, Chicago, Hong Kong, Madrid, Moscow, Paris, Rio de Janeiro, St Petersburg, Sydney, Tokyo, Washington DC... to mention some.

 

Until now, Rockstar was very successful choosing the game location, most of them American, one European and one unknown: New York, Miami, San Francisco, London, Los Angeles, Las Vegas, and a fictional unknown city. It they wanna "go out of American", they can and they will.

The problem isnt recognizable cities. These cities have crime and are recognizable, but the problem is gang diversity. Thats the reason why US is the best location. Some cities like London, and Paris have diversity, but most of the cities you talked about only have one type of gang, which is why those cities are perfect for espansion packs, but not for entire eras.

This game is Grand Theft AUTO not Grand Theft GANGS

 

the location isn't determined by which place has the most gangs, rockstar could take anywhere and make it over the top and add gangs, they could take a desert island and infest it with gangs and crime.

 

The location isn't determined by crime rates and gang numbers

[thedamned38]

Yeah i agree. I actually dont care too much where they set the next GTA as long as its not in like Chicago or Detroit because they'll be too similar to LC. And for some reason i really dont want to see it in london, i just dont think it'd be that interesting. Although i do want to see VC and SA again, I also really want a city thats never been done before

[jamieleng]

Hell the next GTA could start in London & finish in Los Santos, or vice versa.