Which is worse ?

[Cojage]

It also depends where in the world we are talking about.

[johnny_zoo]

I dont understand how someone would choose prison over the nuthouse.

 

Prison would be off the chain hardcore and you'd have loads of sleepless nights fearing constant ass violations. Not to mention having to get into a fight to prove your worth which I would lose as I dont work out at all.

I dont see much wrong with the nuthouse, are we assuming that we'd be mentally ill before going into the nuthouse or normal? If your're normal then you could just fake taking the drugs then you wont lose your mind.

 

 

All I know its better than getting ass raped and getting the sh*t kicked out of you on ocassions.

 

 

Also E.A.B what about giving head are you prepared to do that to some overweight sweaty bald guy with BO??

[MetaPhysics]

Everyone here knows there are well over a number of different types of prisions and mental institutions out there, so I won't even bring that up. What I will bring up on the other hand, is this -

 

 

Secure Units

In the British Isles, criminal courts or the Home Secretary can refer people to what are known as psychiatric secure units, even though for many decades now, the term 'criminally insane' is no longer legally or medically recognized. Some people and especially journalists often misconceive these as being prisons. However, they are hospitals mostly run by the National Health Service, which undertake psychiatric assessments and can also provide treatment and accommodation in a safe, hospital environment where its patients can be prevented from harming themselves or others. They also run under clearly defined Home office rules. These secure hospital facilities are divided into three main categories and are referred to as High, Medium and Low Secure. Although as a phrase it often used by newspapers, there is no such classification of 'Maximum Secure'.

 

Some units have been opened in recent years with the specific purpose of providing Therapeutically Enhanced Treatment and so form a subcategory to the three main ones.

 

The general public are familiar with the names of the High Secure Hospitals due to the frequency that they are mentioned in the news reports about the people who are sent there.  Northern Ireland and the Isle of Man have their own Medium and Low Secure units but use the mainland faculties for High Secure, which smaller Channel Islands also transfer their patients to as Out of Area Referrals under the Mental Health Act 1983.

 

 

 

Mental institutions are extremely over-exaggerated. While prison (I went there for seven months) is exactly what you think of; depressing, disgusting, scary and extremely inappropriate. So if you asked me which I would rather go to, I would have to say Mental Hospital.

 

The only thing that would be painful my imagination at large thinking about the pills they give and how all of this is to only make me bad. Which, if I was thinking all that, maybe I deserve to be in a mental institution.

[trip]

2 of my close friends take regular vacations in mental hospitals. I've never had to visit anyone in prison, but I do visit my friends in the mental hospitals. The mental hospitals are much nicer compared to prisons as far as I can guess. For one you get to just roam about and do what you want. When you get visitors the visitors are allowed to just roam about with you - hang out in your room - stuff like that.

[Tyler]

Yeah, mental institutions (Most) probably are not nearly as bad as High Security prisons.

[HolyGrenadeFrenzy]

East flew east and west flew west and one flew over the nice personoos nest. -Ken Kesey

 

I suggest you see the whole film and consider your release date before you make any hasty arrangements.

 

Also, in addition to the above work and thanks to Robert Pirsig and his famous work's, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance , influence on the minds of the US Judicial System Members of the 1970s-1980s , the laws regarding shock therapy have changed dramatically, yet still there are "other" issues to reflect on as well.

Edited August 5, 2010 by HolyGrenadeFrenzy

[E.A.B.]

Also E.A.B what about giving head are you prepared to do that to some overweight sweaty bald guy with BO??

I'm in no hurry to suck dick, but people act as if sucking a dick is worse than changing the chemicals in your mind.

 

Those pills, they'll screw you up.

 

And whose to say I can't handle myself? At least I have a cahnce in prison. In a mental institution, they force the pills down you

[Slynke]

East flew east and west flew west and one flew over the nice personoos nest. -Ken Kesey

 

I suggest you see the whole film and consider your release date before you make any hasty arrangements.

 

Also, in addition to the above work and thanks to Robert Pirsig and his famous work's, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance , influence on the minds of the US Judicial System Members of the 1970s-1980s , the laws regarding shock therapy have changed dramatically, yet still there are "other" issues to reflect on as well.

It's 2010, man. Get with the times. These days, they pump you full of pills.. much more money in pills than electricity.

[TheBruceter]

Never get pissed off in a mental home.. my mate learned that the hard way..

 

Some guy stole his washing machine he was gonna use (had been standing there for half an hour + and this guys just walts in) so he gets vocal. Next thing he knows, he's getting tied down and drugged up lol

 

He really didn't like his stay in there from what he told me. Murderers and obviously people that were alot worse than him.. and the docs weren't for letting him back out. He loved the drugs though lol so he enjoyed it, until he wanted dope lol

[Brown Sugar]

considering mental hospitals are filled with crazy f*cked up retards like charles manson and prisons are filled with huge skin-head gangsters its hard to say

 

(has anyone heard any of that charles manson sh*t, he gets half way through a sentence and starts going gvkivighkvbkgbhbk)

[HolyGrenadeFrenzy]

 

East flew east and west flew west and one flew over the nice personoos nest. -Ken Kesey

 

I suggest you see the whole film and consider your release date before you make any hasty arrangements.

 

Also, in addition to the above work and thanks to Robert Pirsig and his famous work's, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance , influence on the minds of the US Judicial System Members of the 1970s-1980s , the laws regarding shock therapy have changed dramatically, yet still there are "other" issues to reflect on as well.

It's 2010, man. Get with the times. These days, they pump you full of pills.. much more money in pills than electricity.

 

 

HolyGrenadeFrenzy laughs and takes on a lighthearted demeanor.

 

I know that, mister, but the historical reference is important for a current comparative.

 

The "atmosphere" is still about the same, though.

 

You have completely jumped to conclusions and missed my point. Prison does have a release date and mental hospitals don't necessarily have one, depending on where you are. Sucking you and your relations dry and then releasing you with and insurmountable debt has become common place.

 

Have you read both Kesey and Pirsig?

 

Just because so many of the populace is on the pills doesn't mean that being on the pills should be the norm.

 

I expected people to be intelligent enough to draw similar parameters between the "old methods" and the new to not-so-new methods used today, after some consideration of course.

 

My mistake.

 

Maybe you consider Equilibrium as very different from THX 1138 as well.

 

the pill factors you idiots

 

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Oh, I get it and a lot more than you could ever guess at....I see it everyday.

 

 

Here is a song for all of you on the topic of pills.

 

 

 

Better the rest of you than me.

Edited August 6, 2010 by HolyGrenadeFrenzy

[AlfieWilRus]

I'm kind of interested in what you guys think is worse : to be locked up in a mental hospital or be locked up in prison ?

 

To me,both options are bad. In mental hospital you are not held as long as in prison,but the pills and sh*t they give you there will f*ck up your mind and you come out worse than before. In prison,you are locked in a cell for years,but they don't f*ck up your mind with pills there.

I would rather be in a Mental Hospital because in Prison you get f*cking raped!

[Lithium]

Unless your a complete b*tch, you're more than likely not going to get raped. I've worked at a prison for a few years before, and it's the best time these guys get to have. Free food, health care, housing etc etc.. The odd fight happened, but that just meant more fun for the guards. I would have to say prison, because it's not as bad as everyone thinks it is. Federal prison may be a different story though. I wouldn't want to be in a maximum security, because that's where all the murderers are. But then again, if you were in prison for life, it probably wouldn't bother you to kill someone for trying to rape you

 

 

Just my two cents on the subject, seeing as I have the most experience, and the rest are basing their decision on prison movies/tv shows.

[FamilyDUDE777]

Well if it's a normal prison, yes I'll do that. If it's a hardcore prison with the big dude making me his bitch and calling me prison yard sally, I'll go with the mental hospital. But then again, will I have a normal room or a padded cell tide in a straightjacket? If both ends are terrible, I'll go with option C and run for the hills and if all else face secret option D bash my head into a wall.

[arsenal_fan]

Well it all depends on the situation, low or mdeium secruity prison then probably prison as you will only be there for a couple of year and will less likely to get raped or killed. However if its a maximum secruity prison which has crazy hadrcore prison who would probably kill you just for the fun of it then no thanks.

 

 

Mental hospital is depends as well, if you just live there and don't bother the nurses or ayone then they are less likely to drug you up and strap you up and leave you in a room. They will probably just leave you sitting in a chair and staring outside of a window. However if there are stadistic nurses who love giving you the worst drugs which make you have the worst nightmares and you live straped up forever then no thanks.

[MobBG]

North Korea. No ofence or anything, simply communism beats both of those facilities.

[Lithium]

North Korea. No ofence or anything, simply communism beats both of those facilities.

I don't doubt that one. I don't think I'd want to be in a Russian prison either!

[MobBG]

North Korea. No ofence or anything, simply communism beats both of those facilities.

I don't doubt that one. I don't think I'd want to be in a Russian prison either!

True that! When the communist invaded Bulgaria, my grand grand father was tortured (because he helped a wounded german soldier) by putting wooden sticks into his fingernails, then he was thrown in a prison camp in Siberia where he found his death

[Lithium]

North Korea. No ofence or anything, simply communism beats both of those facilities.

I don't doubt that one. I don't think I'd want to be in a Russian prison either!

True that! When the communist invaded Bulgaria, my grand grand father was tortured (because he helped a wounded german soldier) by putting wooden sticks into his fingernails, then he was thrown in a prison camp in Siberia where he found his death

I take it this was during WW2? Why did he help the German soldier?

[Panz]

Neither, for I am not officially insane or a criminal.

 

If I had to become either one, I think being insane would be better. Half the people there probably don't even know what he hell is going on because their heads are so f*cked. Mental hospitals seem cleaner, anyway. They creep me the f*ck out, but, I'm insane, so would I even notice? Prisons, on the other hand, just make me think of grimy, nasty men and unsanitary tattoos.

 

I know they're trying to help you at mental hospitals, but if they lock you up in dull rooms with nothing very..uplifting, how is that supposed to help the mentally insane? Really. Staring at a wall all day would probably make me more insane than I was just going in there. Draw me some elephants and monkeys on the walls, please. SOMETHING. Or is it only the hardcore insane asylums that do that (the whole white wall, nothing anywhere thing)?

Edited August 8, 2010 by Panz

[Minus the Boom]

I think it's safe to say that with the banning of Slamman none of us here on GTAF have experienced both, so none of us can give the answer.

 

My guess is they both suck.

[IVSA_Guy]

I cant believe a prisonbitch gets his ass spinning around.

No one wants to get sperms up the ass and sh*t.

If you have to poop, you'll probably sh*t white diarhea.

Prisons are disgusting cellblocks ever.

And then the risks you can get stabbed to death with a toothbrush or a spoon.

No way, better staring at the wall all the day.

[Saget]

Neither, for I am not officially insane or a criminal.

 

If I had to become either one, I think being insane would be better. Half the people there probably don't even know what he hell is going on because their heads are so f*cked. Mental hospitals seem cleaner, anyway. They creep me the f*ck out, but, I'm insane, so would I even notice? Prisons, on the other hand, just make me think of grimy, nasty men and unsanitary tattoos.

 

I know they're trying to help you at mental hospitals, but if they lock you up in dull rooms with nothing very..uplifting, how is that supposed to help the mentally insane? Really. Staring at a wall all day would probably make me more insane than I was just going in there. Draw me some elephants and monkeys on the walls, please. SOMETHING. Or is it only the hardcore insane asylums that do that (the whole white wall, nothing anywhere thing)?

If they drew pictures on the walls, the crazies would think they are trying to talk to them, or even eating their brains at night!

 

I'd rather go to a mental hospital. Crazies > violent people, and I just CAN'T STAND violent people.

[Slynke]

Snip!

You are a f*cking idiot

 

Next time you try to insult somebody elses intelligence, make sure you fully understand them first

 

Me: 1

You: 0

[Voodoo]

Crazies > violent people

What about violent crazy people?

 

 

[Lithium]

Crazies > violent people

What about violent crazy people?

Since there are plenty of them in both establishments I'm sure!

[HolyGrenadeFrenzy]

 

Snip!

You are a f*cking idiot

 

Next time you try to insult somebody elses intelligence, make sure you fully understand them first

 

Me: 1

You: 0

Same to you.....and you did it first.

 

*Ahem

 

I was only playing with you.

 

Calm down.

 

Besides, your not feeling me at all or this urst of yours would seem kinda ridiculous.

 

Have fun with your score board, man.

 

 

Here let me show you how much it matters.

 

You:+3,616+

 

Me:-6,221-

 

There. Happy?

 

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OT

 

To have to make such a choice is difficult in the first place and sort of seems to beg the question: What did you do to have to make such a choice in life?

 

Then, I suspect if you have reason to have to make such a choice then the next question is: What is right for me to do?

 

Then.

 

Am I insane?

 

Then.

 

Is this ( obviously) Legal issue just or unjust?

 

Then.

 

How much does my survival depend on my answer?

 

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Such seems a set of internal transactions that would benefit one faced with such a dilemma.

 

The best answer of course is to avoid the need to have such a self inquiry.

 

I would ask the OP if there is some reason that such inquiry is here with us now yet it seems that there are many reasons why someone would ponder such things. There are other more specific things that interest me about this whole thread.

 

@ Dollarhide > What brought on this question?

Edited August 8, 2010 by HolyGrenadeFrenzy

[Star-Lord]

 

I think it's safe to say that with the banning of Slamman none of us here on GTAF have experienced both, so none of us can give the answer.

 

My guess is they both suck.

What a cold thing to say about a man who is celebrating his 44th birthday today.

Give the man a break at least for one day.

 

On topic: Neither, I would rather be sent to the Antarctic and freeze to death and have the polar bears eat me after wards.

[MobBG]

North Korea. No ofence or anything, simply communism beats both of those facilities.

I don't doubt that one. I don't think I'd want to be in a Russian prison either!

True that! When the communist invaded Bulgaria, my grand grand father was tortured (because he helped a wounded german soldier) by putting wooden sticks into his fingernails, then he was thrown in a prison camp in Siberia where he found his death

I take it this was during WW2? Why did he help the German soldier?

Because he was wounded and had nowhere to go........

[Lithium]

North Korea. No ofence or anything, simply communism beats both of those facilities.

I don't doubt that one. I don't think I'd want to be in a Russian prison either!

True that! When the communist invaded Bulgaria, my grand grand father was tortured (because he helped a wounded german soldier) by putting wooden sticks into his fingernails, then he was thrown in a prison camp in Siberia where he found his death

I take it this was during WW2? Why did he help the German soldier?

Because he was wounded and had nowhere to go........

I guess he didn't get much praise from the Russians for doing so...which is understandable in a way, but he was also just trying to do good for his fellow man. That's a sad story..