So my dad may be getting a new car...

[Benzoboy]

Well, I'll put it simply, my dad's job at the moment is quite s**t, and basically, he can't afford to pay £500 a month for his car, so he's buying one outright, to keep costs down. This coincides with my dad being nearly 50, can someone say, midlife crisis? The plan is to get my Fiesta working so my dad can use that on his daily commute, and buy something else for other times. Criteria is;

 

- Under £10k (Very maximum)

- Quick (Anything under 6.5sec 0-60)

- Seats 4+

 

Yes, it's really that open. Ones we're interested in at the moment

 

- TVR Cerbera

- Toyota Supra Twin Turbo

- Subaru Impreza P1

 

Take a look at these...

 

http://pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1893766.htm

http://pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1895814.htm

http://pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1733796.htm

 

As always, suggestions please

[Starion]

Here's two, pretty predictable suggestions:

 

http://pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1792602.htm

 

http://pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1910589.htm (bit high on the budget, and very rare)

 

And here's some not so predictable suggestions:

 

http://pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1793030.htm

 

http://pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1824014.htm

 

http://pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1482651.htm

 

http://pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1841927.htm

 

 

 

EDIT: Don't get a cerb, as awesome as they are and as well maintained as that one looks, your dad will be spending a lot on it every month. + they only have two seats?

Edited August 4, 2010 by Starion

[*MURDOC*]

Nice suggestions.

 

If they had Skylines in this country, Id take that R33 in a heartbeat.

[Benzoboy]

The Cerbera is a 2+2

 

Nice suggestions, we were looking at E36 M3 Evos. An M5 is a good car, but it seems like a bit of a waste if you get me, it's my dad's only opportunity to get a "Mid life crisis car", an M5 can come when he retires, as by this time the E60 will be falling into that price range, you see where I'm coming from? Nice cars though

 

Nice suggestions though, the Evo 8 doesn't really interest my dad, he's always preferred Subarus, and he never really liked the new Evos anyway. RS2s are stretching the budget slightly. An R33 is a good buy. Some more;

 

http://pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1932420.htm

http://pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1552489.htm

http://pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1879696.htm

http://pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1688856.htm - Not this exact one of course but a similar one, not as fast as first specified but hey, it's an AE86

 

 

[Starion]

The Intergra Type R and the Delta both look really really tasty. Also remember a Delta would be an investment, they are only going to go up in value from now onwards.

[Benzoboy]

Indeed, that's one of the points I'm using to persuade my dad, I suppose the same could be said for the AE86?

[Illousion]

Indeed, that's one of the points I'm using to persuade my dad, I suppose the same could be said for the AE86?

Arent those cars really uncomfortable to ride in though?. Noisy and stiff as all hell, but as long as there arent any longer road-trips planned I guess one could live with it.

[Benzoboy]

Like I said, it's a mid life crisis car, let's try not to be concerned with practicalities

[Lithium]

I like the Subaru Impreza the best! You said your dad is fond of Subaru isn't he?

[Lurch]

Kind of funny how cheap "big engined" thirsty cars are over there. Would snap any of those cars up in an instant over here if they were that cheap.

 

The TVR would be sweet but if you buy anything British, you really need to get 2 of them so you can drive one while the other's in the shop.

Edited August 4, 2010 by Lurch

[chris]

The TVR would be sweet but if you buy anything British, you really need to get 2 of them so you can drive one while the other's in the shop.

Somebody's been watching Top Gear

[Benzoboy]

Kind of funny how cheap "big engined" thirsty cars. Would snap any of those cars up in an instant over here if they were that cheap.

It's only because petrol costs a f*cking bomb, thirsty cars just don't sell, unfortunately

[Emotion98.3]

Like I said, it's a mid life crisis car, let's try not to be concerned with practicalities

Get a Nissan Maxima then, there a really nice, sporty looking car. there not too expensive if you find an older one such as a 2002-2004, And if you find the right dealer they can be found for under 13K (USD), 10K (Euro).

 

I mean no need for a German BMW or Mercedes...I personally think there over-engineered (maybe not to you, but thats a matter of opinion). A Honda or Acura would be great car too.

 

Why bother getting an 80's/90's car with the features that come base in a 2000's car for the same price?

[Lurch]

oh dear...

[Benzoboy]

Like I said, it's a mid life crisis car, let's try not to be concerned with practicalities

Get a Nissan Maxima then, there a really nice, sporty looking car. there not too expensive if you find an older one such as a 2002-2004, And if you find the right dealer they can be found for under 13K (USD), 10K (Euro).

 

I mean no need for a German BMW or Mercedes...I personally think there over-engineered (maybe not to you, but thats a matter of opinion). A Honda or Acura would be great car too.

 

Why bother getting an 80's/90's car with the features that come base in a 2000's car for the same price?

With all due respect, are you taking the piss?

[leik oh em jeez!]

Like I said, it's a mid life crisis car, let's try not to be concerned with practicalities

Get a Nissan Maxima then, there a really nice, sporty looking car. there not too expensive if you find an older one such as a 2002-2004, And if you find the right dealer they can be found for under 13K (USD), 10K (Euro).

 

I mean no need for a German BMW or Mercedes...I personally think there over-engineered (maybe not to you, but thats a matter of opinion). A Honda or Acura would be great car too.

 

Why bother getting an 80's/90's car with the features that come base in a 2000's car for the same price?

Because no one wants some new fuel-effecient piece of crap. Sports cars (Not just sporty-looking crap piles) are being discussed here.

 

More on-topic: I've always liked Those Deltas.

[Lurch]

I'm almost lost for words at that one chick's post.

[Emotion98.3]

Like I said, it's a mid life crisis car, let's try not to be concerned with practicalities

Get a Nissan Maxima then, there a really nice, sporty looking car. there not too expensive if you find an older one such as a 2002-2004, And if you find the right dealer they can be found for under 13K (USD), 10K (Euro).

 

I mean no need for a German BMW or Mercedes...I personally think there over-engineered (maybe not to you, but thats a matter of opinion). A Honda or Acura would be great car too.

 

Why bother getting an 80's/90's car with the features that come base in a 2000's car for the same price?

Because no one wants some new fuel-effecient piece of crap. Sports cars (Not just sporty-looking crap piles) are being discussed here.

 

More on-topic: I've always liked Those Deltas.

Actually Reliability comes before Sporty my friend.

 

 

 

With all due respect, are you taking the piss?

 

Umm...?

 

 

Anyways, I really don't see why you guys would want a old sports car then to have a reliable modern car for the same prize...Really I don't understand, Even though its a BMW or a TVR (Never seen one in my life, except on Gran Turismo :|). But anywho (Not trying to start an argument, just trying to state a valid reason) why you would want an older Sports car that may or could break down on the highway when for the same price you could get more and the sureness of not breaking down on the highway to or from work...

 

Not to mention Nissans (OK, I'm a little biased...) can go 200,000 miles for fun if you keep them well maintained. (Also mentioning Toyota Corolla/Camry's, Honda Civic/Accord's, Subaru's Legacy's/Impreza)

 

 

Now i know you're in Europe and all, but they sell those vehicles just like they do here. Maybe that's just my way of thinking? I'd rather have a 2004 Chevy Malibu then to have a 1992 BMW M5. But hey do what you want, I mean it's your fathers choice in the end right?

 

 

[Benzoboy]

Like I said, it's a mid life crisis car, let's try not to be concerned with practicalities

Get a Nissan Maxima then, there a really nice, sporty looking car. there not too expensive if you find an older one such as a 2002-2004, And if you find the right dealer they can be found for under 13K (USD), 10K (Euro).

 

I mean no need for a German BMW or Mercedes...I personally think there over-engineered (maybe not to you, but thats a matter of opinion). A Honda or Acura would be great car too.

 

Why bother getting an 80's/90's car with the features that come base in a 2000's car for the same price?

Because no one wants some new fuel-effecient piece of crap. Sports cars (Not just sporty-looking crap piles) are being discussed here.

 

More on-topic: I've always liked Those Deltas.

Actually Reliability comes before Sporty my friend.

 

 

 

With all due respect, are you taking the piss?

 

Umm...?

 

 

Anyways, I really don't see why you guys would want a old sports car then to have a reliable modern car for the same prize...Really I don't understand, Even though its a BMW or a TVR (Never seen one in my life, except on Gran Turismo :|). But anywho (Not trying to start an argument, just trying to state a valid reason) why you would want an older Sports car that may or could break down on the highway when for the same price you could get more and the sureness of not breaking down on the highway to or from work...

 

Not to mention Nissans (OK, I'm a little biased...) can go 200,000 miles for fun if you keep them well maintained. (Also mentioning Toyota Corolla/Camry's, Honda Civic/Accord's, Subaru's Legacy's/Impreza)

 

 

Now i know you're in Europe and all, but they sell those vehicles just like they do here. Maybe that's just my way of thinking? I'd rather have a 2004 Chevy Malibu then to have a 1992 BMW M5. But hey do what you want, I mean it's your fathers choice in the end right?

Because like I've said, it's my dad's mid life crisis, a time in every man's life where practicalities are ignored.

 

But it's just obvious anyway, if you're a true can fan you don't choose a Nissan Maxima "because it's reliable", like what the f*ck.

 

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/adv.../1500?logcode=p

[stinomontana]

does your dad know anyting about cars? if so, what about a kitcar?

its cheap, nice looking, you can build it yourself wich adds up to the personal value of the car

 

[Lurch]

Now i know you're in Europe and all, but they sell those vehicles just like they do here. Maybe that's just my way of thinking? I'd rather have a 2004 Chevy Malibu then to have a 1992 BMW M5. But hey do what you want, I mean it's your fathers choice in the end right?

You're quite obviously not a car person so why are you in this section? Honestly, recommending a nearly new fwd average joe sedan in a topic for suggestions on a mental, fun-to-drive, practicality-be-damned, driver's car?

 

WTF, gurl?

 

BTW: my 25 year old BMW has racked up over a quarter mil of miles and is still going strong.

[Benzoboy]

does your dad know anyting about cars? if so, what about a kitcar?

its cheap, nice looking, you can build it yourself wich adds up to the personal value of the car

An interesting suggestion, I'm not sure if it could work though, I don't think that me and my dad would have the patience/knowledge to build our own car, as awesome as it would be, and it's only a pure 2 seater. My dad's aiming for 4 seats at least so we can at least go out as a family once in a while, even if the rear seats are cramped to f*ck. Thanks though

[leik oh em jeez!]

 

Actually Reliability comes before Sporty my friend.

 

Did you even read the topic?

This is about a second car to be used as a "fun to drive" sports car, not a primary "drive to work" everyday reliable car.

 

@Benzoboy: I'm thinking a mid-90's Impreza would be nice.

Edited August 5, 2010 by leik oh em jeez!

[*MURDOC*]

Wow, Emotion REALLY missed the point of the topic.

 

Maxima?

 

FWD Corolla?

 

CAMRY?

[Lurch]

I'd recommend an E28 M5 (predictable) or an E24 M6 but the price of them is just as outrageous over there as it is here.

 

This one barely makes the price cut.

 

I'd recommend an 8 series but it's a bit hard to find a decent 6 speed in that price range.

 

Found a 6 speed 850 that barely makes the cut. Can the LPG converted sh*t still run on normal gas?

Edited August 5, 2010 by Lurch

[Emotion98.3]

Well you guy's are talking about "Going out to dinner" and how you father is making less than he was at his new job and all...So i figured Practicality would be the way to go, now if you're dad has a mid life crisis, then OK, go out and buy a beemer or Mercedes Benz.

 

But coming from an American, that was the sorta response you were going to get. Talked to my step dad about the subject and I asked him which would he prefer and he said obviously the 2004 Camry, but he also said from a European Standpoint it would be the other way around since they are more used to BMWs, TVR's, etc...

 

Alright :\ You win.

[chris]

E30 M3!

[*MURDOC*]

Well you guy's are talking about "Going out to dinner" and how you father is making less than he was at his new job and all...So i figured Practicality would be the way to go, now if you're dad has a mid life crisis, then OK, go out and buy a beemer or Mercedes Benz.

 

But coming from an American, that was the sorta response you were going to get. Talked to my step dad about the subject and I asked him which would he prefer and he said obviously the 2004 Camry, but he also said from a European Standpoint it would be the other way around since they are more used to BMWs, TVR's, etc...

 

Alright :\ You win.

Coming from an American, I think you and your dad are out of your f*cking mind, a Camry over an R33 or a Cosworth?

 

I'd take any of the cars listed in those ads over that FWD sh*tbox.

 

 

 

 

 

Seriously, hes looking for something fun to drive, not something he will fall asleep driving.

[Benzoboy]

E30 M3!

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-

 

I just looked at them on Pistonheads, they're only slightly out of budget :'(

[Starion]

How about an RX7?

 

Or one of these: http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1840700.htm