Countryside & Desert

[Vercetti27]

One of the reasons San Andreas is such a widely appreciated game is the balance between the ghetto, the beaches, the hilly roads of san fierro, the casinos of LV and the rural areas of the map.

 

When I hear people say " San Andreas was great but there was so much wasted space" I have to disagree. Wasn't it fun for the first time when you went inside area 69, and expolored the weird shaped rocks in the desert? Didn't you enjoy the robbery missions in flint county, and riding quad bikes through fields, and going to the top of mount chiliad?

 

A lot of people didn't enjoy liberty city as much because everywhere looked the same , and there was nowhere to get away from it all. The reason why SA is so popular is because it made you feel limitless freedom , and so many paths and oppurtunities. I love base jumping in liberty city at night as much as the next person , but it got so tiring quick.

 

I want Rockstar to give us countryside , mountains , forest, canyons, and woodland , and give me a sense of freedom again

[Marco.]

I agree, I think San Andreas was the perfect proportion of City to Country ratio and I hope somewhere down the line they do it again, Maybe it will be bigger like GTA IV was bigger than III.

 

But I don't think they will do Country place next, I think it might be vice city which even though is a city with no country, it does feel much different to the plane city like Liberty City.

[GritEngine]

I'm with Marco. It makes sense to do Vice City and use all the VC LC props for SA, which requires all of that stuff, and more stuff you can't find in LC and VC. Smart development.

[Master Sima Yi]

I didn't enjoy the rural areas at all. I much prefered Liberty City in GTA IV. I always managed to get stuck in the rural areas, or I was in the middle of nowhere without a vehicle. And just mainly the thought: which gangsta rides around on a quad bike at the top of the mountain? I just didn't make any sense. I'd much prefer to not see San Andreas ever again. Just separate games for Los Santos, San Fierro and Las Venturas. That way, the can also spend all the hard work they'd do on the rural areas on improving the cities even more.

 

By the way, it may also be that I hate the rural areas so much is because I already live in a rural area and I hate it. I'd much prefer to live in a big city.

[xNewtype Acex]

I'm with Marco. It makes sense to do Vice City and use all the VC LC props for SA, which requires all of that stuff, and more stuff you can't find in LC and VC. Smart development.

I still don't understand what you keep on saying by this, most of the "props" for would-be SA are already in RDR.

[GritEngine]

I mean, that's just the desert stuff, isn't it? there are lots of other things than the vegetation in the desert. Miami props basically translate to some of Los Santos and some of Las Venturas, while there are more needed for the rural areas not-desert in angel pine and such. Like, there is more to SA than what's seen in RDR, right?

 

Definitely need another GTA to come out, and a couple other games that make use of those Miami assets before they reuse those RDR ones perhaps

[Cousin!ItIsYourCousin!]

Personally I think they are useless and a waste of space.

Especially now that they made Red Dead Redemption.

[GritEngine]

I don't, I love flying airplanes in gta games, and driving off road sandmasters on the beaches of miami and the countrysides and deserts of the west coast, and dreaming about the new mount chilliad and new parachutes and what area 69 will be like this time and how many polies the sign on the new golden gate bridge will say, most likely a much more realistic looking one, as all the landmarks in the other games really did mismatch/not resemble/look just as fake as the old liberty did

 

Meaning, vinewood, all of that, it was all too small, too low detail, I rememebr people pointing out all the missing things in Las Venturas - The old sa assets, I bet they will be mixed in there too now I bet.

 

RDR shows us SA can be awesome. The money they made and will make with the next games and especially the next GTA being most-likely primarily just one city like IV was? They will definitely have enough money for a big game like that, and I really hope they do it.

Edited July 28, 2010 by GritEngine

[Cousin!ItIsYourCousin!]

I'm not saying a little bit of nature space would be bad but they got to focus on the city.San Andreas half the map was nothing and this sucked.

[Darrel]

Personally I think they are useless and a waste of space.

Especially now that they made Red Dead Redemption.

When I'm playing Red dead redemption i sometimes think of how cool it would playing in a city. I think there Should be country in the Next Grand theft auto.

[Super Warmonkey]

Vice City can have those swamps or whatever as their countryside, and a bit of farmland to the west of the city wouldn't hurt. I would love to see something like San Andreas again, but to a much bigger scale.

[xNewtype Acex]

I mean, that's just the desert stuff, isn't it? there are lots of other things than the vegetation in the desert. Miami props basically translate to some of Los Santos and some of Las Venturas, while there are more needed for the rural areas not-desert in angel pine and such. Like, there is more to SA than what's seen in RDR, right?

 

Definitely need another GTA to come out, and a couple other games that make use of those Miami assets before they reuse those RDR ones perhaps

Have you played RDR? I don't think so.

 

It's environments range from a desert, to a swamp, to the huge mesas of Mexico, to plains, to a dense forest and even a snowy mountain.

 

Sounds like SA assets to me, literally the three main non-city areas of SA are there, it literally is, as someone already said on this forum, Landscapes: The Game.

[Kwandilibro]

I personally thought the countryside in SA was awesome, although I didn't particularly care for the dusty ass deserts surrounding LV. IMO, Mt. Chilliad was the best single location in any GTA. Just f*cking awesome. So yes, I would like to see more rural areas, countryside, swamps, deserts, something other than dense cities.

 

If there's one thing I thought was really fun, it was racing around the countryside.

[sminem]

This has been discussed many times before and my response was always yes and no. If V takes place in San Andreas or some other area surrounded by wilderness than it only makes sense to include it. On the other hand if your doing a place like Vice City having a fictional rendition of the Everglades would also help to provide a more realistic atmosphere.

[Wenis IV]

Yeah nothing is more fun to me than just taking a car and going off roading with it in San Andreas, but there was no place to do this in IV.

[Toup]

Well i was shocked how R* didn't do country side because of the "wasted space" they said!

 

What wasted space? I disagree with R* to the max in this point. Who didn't liked it? Well maybe it was too much for this new game with new engines.

 

But that has to be in GTA V, there is no reason to not.

 

Imagine yourself jumping off of a mount as big as mount chilrad with RAGE everyone would ohh emm gee.

 

Ps: you can always read my posts with south-east european accent.

[sminem]

 

Well i was shocked how R* didn't do country side because of the "wasted space" they said! 

 

What wasted space? I disagree with R* to the max in this point. Who didn't liked it? Well maybe it was too much for this new game with new engines.

 

But that has to be in GTA V, there is no reason to not.

 

Imagine yourself jumping off of a mount as big as mount chilrad with RAGE everyone would ohh emm gee.

 

I used to love driving a Sanchez dirt-bike or a Quad around the wilderness in Flint County but I guess some people just didn't like it and felt that it was unnecessary to have these areas.

[angel3327279]

 

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Edited July 29, 2010 by Andy

[Dademo]

I just turn traffic off and Peds off and I just drive freely around Liberty City.

 

I do agree that the San Andreas map was much better in terms of freedom, and driving through the country from City to City was fun.

[K^2]

Keep in mind that so called "wasted space" does not significantly eat into neither the system requirements, disk space, nor development time, compared to the cities. The entire desert area is probably worth about an average block of LS, but provides more fun on average to an average player.

 

It's really a non-issue. Yes, development of multiple cities would take up some extra time, simply because of diversity in styles, etc. But once you have two or more cities planned for, adding a large and diverse countryside/desert areas is simply a must.