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Kwandilibro, just because someone doesnt like a group of people who happen to be of a different race doesnt make them racist, gangsters arent nice people, its not racist to not like them.

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Kwandilibro, just because someone doesnt like a group of people who happen to be of a different race doesnt make them racist, gangsters arent nice people, its not racist to not like them.

Exactly. But hey, it's much easier to call someone a racist than to actually dig deep into the problem.

 

And Kwan, I don't know if that was a joke or not...you saying that gays are ruining society is ridiculous. They're not going around selling drugs, shooting up places, car jacking like street gangs are.

 

Sorry, but street gangs are also terrorists.

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Kwandilibro, just because someone doesnt like a group of people who happen to be of a different race doesnt make them racist, gangsters arent nice people, its not racist to not like them.

Hell, I know that.

 

My mom is blacker than me. She despises gangs, hip hop, and most of what the black culture has come to over the last 20-25 years. She also despises the mafia, and criminals in general, but she hates street gangs the most. Nothing to do with race, she just hates most if not all of what they're about. But these people in this thread, the same can't be said. If you honestly think street gangs are a number one threat to society, you should really consider castration. And if you honestly think all black street gangs are the same, you need to check again, because you're wrong.

 

And gangsters aren't nice people? Well, some of them are misguided, some are just cold from having a f*cked up life. And others just choose to be cold. Either way, Mobsters aren't exactly care bares, you know. And they're not the most reputable people either.

 

It's not that I think everyone is racist(A common misconception people get when I discuss race). I'm sure there are some of you guys who just don't like street gangs in general. But some of this sh*t is f*cking transparent.

 

"Worthless hood trash"

 

"Black street gangs are ignorant and stupid"

 

"Black street gangs are retarded"

 

"Black street gangs are retarded"

 

Phrases like that, as Official General mentioned before, are obviously deeper than, 'I just don't like street gangs". Because come on. Lets use some common sense.

 

"Worthless hood trash"- Since when was there a supreme person worth more than the next?

 

"Black Street gangs are stupid and ignorant"- Um. If they were if they were stupid, they would have died down by now. No group of stupid people could possibly influence hundreds of thousands of people. Unless they were all stupid, which would mean all black people in general are stupid. Ignorant? Well, I think you're ignorant if you can't open your eyes and see that one group of criminals is no different from the next.

 

"Black Street gangs are retarded"- Please explain to me how black street gangs are more retarded than the mafia.

 

"Black street gangs are pussies"- Tell me, is it pussy to have your friends' backs? Is it pussy to have no fear of the law, no fear of police, no fear of anything? Is it pussy to try to make money by any means necessary? Is it pussy to hang out with a group of people , for the sole reason that you have a sorry excuse for a "family", a total lack of any father figure or role model relevant to your situation? Is it pussy to not take disrespect from somebody? I you answered yes to any of those questions, you my friend, are a dumbass.

 

Anyway, when it gets down to it, a criminal is a criminal. It doesn't matter if they're black or white. The fact that the mafia chooses to arrange themselves in groups by family, while streetgangs usually determine their groups by where they live; it's unimportant. Because they're still groups and still criminals. Am I right?

 

@Arjunke, everything you just said was totally irrelevant. Tell me, how are gangs ruining society?

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Ohh...my bad...Street gangs and thugs AREN'T ruining society....

 

 

LOL.... you're dense.

 

Keep defending the scum of society!! You're looking more and more foolish...

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Ohh...my bad...Street gangs and thugs AREN'T ruining society....

 

 

LOL.... you're dense.

 

Keep defending the scum of society!! You're looking more and more foolish...

Damn, this is like hitting your head against a wall, and wondering why it hurts. You're proving every point I've made.

 

Ruining society? You still haven't explained how.

 

Scum of soceity? Typical redneck saying......

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Tell me, is it pussy to have your friends' backs? Is it pussy to have no fear of the law, no fear of police, no fear of anything? Is it pussy to try to make money by any means necessary? Is it pussy to hang out with a group of people , for the sole reason that you have a sorry excuse for a "family", a total lack of any father figure or role model relevant to your situation? Is it pussy to not take disrespect from somebody? I you answered yes to any of those questions, you my friend, are a dumbass.

...I suppose you could say gangsters are brave. Just as brave as a jihadist strapping bombs to his chest and walking into a crowded shopping center really... it's not the kind of bravery that you get rewarded with a golden sticker for.

 

Just because you're brave enough to do something, doesn't mean it's right. I just wanted to say that because the word 'brave' usually has a positive connotation.

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The OP should realize that Miami Beach is listed as one of the top five most dangerous locations in the entirety of the continental United States.

 

Florida isn't all happy go lucky blue hairs enjoying their retirement and young families going on vacation. The city has a dark side just like every other US city, except it's dark side is proportionally more dangerous than the vast majority of most American major cities.

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Ohh...my bad...Street gangs and thugs AREN'T ruining society....

 

 

LOL.... you're dense.

 

Keep defending the scum of society!! You're looking more and more foolish...

Damn, this is like hitting your head against a wall, and wondering why it hurts. You're proving every point I've made.

 

Ruining society? You still haven't explained how.

 

Scum of soceity? Typical redneck saying......

Why is that so weird? He's telling the truth,they don't do anything in they're life or for their country,they killing people and steal from them.And some people,like you,thinks they cool,why??

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Gangs are evil drug capitalists. All capitalists evil.

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Ohh...my bad...Street gangs and thugs AREN'T ruining society....

 

 

LOL.... you're dense.

 

Keep defending the scum of society!! You're looking more and more foolish...

Damn, this is like hitting your head against a wall, and wondering why it hurts. You're proving every point I've made.

 

Ruining society? You still haven't explained how.

 

Scum of soceity? Typical redneck saying......

Why is that so weird? He's telling the truth,they don't do anything in they're life or for their country,they killing people and steal from them.And some people,like you,thinks they cool,why??

First of all, the mafia actually does less for their country if you want to be like that.

 

And gangs provide the public jobs as police officers, if you want to be technical.

 

For the last time, I'm not trying to put gangs at a higher merit than the mob. I'm trying to make one point. why is it that you people regard the mob as being superior and of higher merit than street gangs, or any other criminals for that matter?

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Gangs are evil drug capitalists. All capitalists evil.

yeah go communism right? seriously the posts are getting really stupid. Both OC gangs and street gangs have some kind of business whether its drugs or extortion, they both rake in alot of money. big time gangs arent full of idiots. lock this thread.

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Ohh...my bad...Street gangs and thugs AREN'T ruining society....

 

 

LOL.... you're dense.

 

Keep defending the scum of society!! You're looking more and more foolish...

Damn, this is like hitting your head against a wall, and wondering why it hurts. You're proving every point I've made.

 

Ruining society? You still haven't explained how.

 

Scum of soceity? Typical redneck saying......

Why is that so weird? He's telling the truth,they don't do anything in they're life or for their country,they killing people and steal from them.And some people,like you,thinks they cool,why??

First of all, the mafia actually does less for their country if you want to be like that.

 

And gangs provide the public jobs as police officers, if you want to be technical.

 

For the last time, I'm not trying to put gangs at a higher merit than the mob. I'm trying to make one point. why is it that you people regard the mob as being superior and of higher merit than street gangs, or any other criminals for that matter?

Well mafia bosses pay big taxes for their villas,lol this is ridiculous,lock this.

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Mafioso provide kickbacks to government officials, pay taxes on their numerous properties/fronts and actually have a code of honor and respect.

 

Street gangs are shameless, they show no respect, remorse, and are absolutely apathetic. If something doesn't relate to them and doesn't involve making money or making a name for themselves (killing/maiming people/each other) then they don't care about it. All they do is waste police and public resources, arresting them and keeping them in prison costs an ungodly amount of money. Not to mention the fact that they don't give anything back to the public except corpses, raised taxes and shameless violence.

 

Mafioso take advantage of a political situation and work with it to stay under the radar. Street gangs have no such desire, they just want to exploit normal people in order to feel good about themselves.

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Wow, this topic is still going on.

 

Look, all gangs are horrible regardless of race. For example, how the mafia(s) kidnaps young girls and force them into prostitution. Also, the Klu Klux Klan is a gang... although they're mostly focused on racial hatred.

 

Also, I suppose you could consider Al Qaeda a gang...

No they're not. Seriously do you even know what a gang is?

 

Definition of Gang:

GANG - A gang is a group of three or more people who, through the organization, formation, and establishment of an assemblage, share a common identity.

 

Say me and my 2 buddies were together in a group right now. We'd be a "gang". Get it?

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OP's never been to Orem, Utah man that place is hella badass. We got gangs writing graffiti on our block... I'm too scared to sleep at night!

i live in north philly and theres graffti ever were and people die there. orem utah graffti is common on every block but

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Sorry I offended you, Kwan, when I stated that street gangs are scum. I mean, groups of individuals that kill, steal, rape, pedal drugs, kill cops....I guess I shouldn't be calling them scum....

 

Please, tell me an appropriate name.

 

I guess you'd get offended too if I called pedophiles scum...

 

and rapists...

 

and terrorists....

 

 

Because I lump all scum together. Scum is scum...I call it what it is. Please wash the sand out of your vagina.

 

 

 

And since we're ripping on your beloved street gangs...tell me how they are a positive influence? We're talking street gangs, like the bloods and crips..the ones that you defend.

 

I'm sure your mom would be super thrilled if a bunch of gang bangers were running her street corner and pedaling drugs...wouldn't she? That's just one MORE reason why they are ruining society. I feel bad for all the decent people having to live in gang affiliated neighborhoods. Sorry, but that makes me a humanitarian, not a racist. That just makes you a bitch for supporting street gangs.

 

Scum is scum and it needs to be flushed.

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Kwandilibro - these street gangs are scum. You don't agree? Maybe you don't have to put with living with them

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Sorry I offended you, Kwan, when I stated that street gangs are scum. I mean, groups of individuals that kill, steal, rape, pedal drugs, kill cops....I guess I shouldn't be calling them scum....

 

Please, tell me an appropriate name.

 

I guess you'd get offended too if I called pedophiles scum...

 

and rapists...

 

and terrorists....

 

 

Because I lump all scum together. Scum is scum...I call it what it is. Please wash the sand out of your vagina.

 

 

 

And since we're ripping on your beloved street gangs...tell me how they are a positive influence? We're talking street gangs, like the bloods and crips..the ones that you defend.

 

I'm sure your mom would be super thrilled if a bunch of gang bangers were running her street corner and pedaling drugs...wouldn't she? That's just one MORE reason why they are ruining society. I feel bad for all the decent people having to live in gang affiliated neighborhoods. Sorry, but that makes me a humanitarian, not a racist. That just makes you a bitch for supporting street gangs.

 

Scum is scum and it needs to be flushed.

why even bring that up yea we all know street are no good but you shouldn't say sh*t if you don't live in that type of environment.

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Sorry I offended you, Kwan, when I stated that street gangs are scum. I mean, groups of individuals that kill, steal, rape, pedal drugs, kill cops....I guess I shouldn't be calling them scum....

 

Please, tell me an appropriate name.

 

I guess you'd get offended too if I called pedophiles scum...

 

and rapists...

 

and terrorists....

 

 

Because I lump all scum together. Scum is scum...I call it what it is. Please wash the sand out of your vagina.

 

 

 

And since we're ripping on your beloved street gangs...tell me how they are a positive influence? We're talking street gangs, like the bloods and crips..the ones that you defend.

 

I'm sure your mom would be super thrilled if a bunch of gang bangers were running her street corner and pedaling drugs...wouldn't she? That's just one MORE reason why they are ruining society. I feel bad for all the decent people having to live in gang affiliated neighborhoods. Sorry, but that makes me a humanitarian, not a racist. That just makes you a bitch for supporting street gangs.

 

Scum is scum and it needs to be flushed.

Actually, buddy, my mother was very happy back in the day, when we lived in the ghetto. Ever since we moved out to the island, straight misery s all we've seen. Why? Because of ignorant people like you surrounding our family 24/7.

 

And maybe you lost the capacity to read, but let me reiterate the fact that I'm not holding gangs at a higher merit than anybody, but I find it stupid that you hold the mafia at a higher merit because they pay taxes. In reality, they are the dirtiest of all. They rip people off regularly, and they help fund this sorry excuse of a government we have. But make no mistake, whether they wear a suit, a bandanna, or a leather jacket; a criminal is a criminal.

 

And criminals, I find them to be less of scum than stupid, ignorant people like you. People who refuse to accept simple fact, people who instead try to bang out silly insults on their itouch, like "wash the sand out of your vagina".

 

And for those of you arjunke like people, scum is pedophiles, terrorists, child molesters, insane serial killers. Street gangsters are just regular people up to no damn good.

 

Don't try to lie your way out of being seen as a redneck, pal.

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And for those of you arjunke like people, scum is pedophiles, terrorists, child molesters, insane serial killers. Street gangsters are just regular people up to no damn good.

 

Don't try to lie your way out of being seen as a redneck, pal.

LOL!

 

I'll stop. Arguing with stupid resolves nothing.

 

Your own talking sums you up very well.

 

 

Scum!!

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Ok we all agree that street gang's are "scum" - or whatever you redneck american's call it... - but I think It'd be stupid to fight about how one person is being "defensive" of them.... even on a forum... -_-

 

 

I'm sure your mom would be super thrilled if a bunch of gang bangers were running her street corner and pedaling drugs...wouldn't she? That's just one MORE reason why they are ruining society. I feel bad for all the decent people having to live in gang affiliated neighborhoods. Sorry, but that makes me a humanitarian, not a racist. That just makes you a bitch for supporting street gangs.

 

Seriously what a fahgot. Like where do you live? In a place where redneck's like to hide and breed? That's funny man. Your kind of missing the fact about street gangs and what they do. Sure they sell drug's and kill people but that doesn't mean they're ruining society as a whole - which is kind of what your stating. But I can't fully understand you since y'know, I'm not a redneck tbh turn.gif

 

 

...tell me how they are a positive influence?

 

It's not a surprise you asked that because of course you wouldn't know what a street gang is. But since you asked that I shall answer it:

 

THEY AREN'T

 

 

Please, tell me an appropriate name.

 

I guess you'd get offended too if I called pedophiles scum...

 

and rapists...

 

and terrorists....

 

Rapist's aren't considered "street gang members". Although street gang member's happen to be common with this negative event but in truth, street gang members are regular people. Not positively social BUT they sell drugs, kill people, rob people, and many other antagonistic event's. But then again you wouldn't know what.

 

Terrorist's on the other hand DON'T sell drug's. I'm pretty sure they don't rob people and hang out in the club and all that sh*t. They cause great fear in countries, they're more advanced, and they aren't "street".

 

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White, you're an idiot. OP acts like he's taking pride in how thuggish Chi town is; plus what the f*ck does REAL life violence have to do with VIDEO GAME violence? Oh and GTA is NOT about sh*tty places, rather the underground lifestyle trying to rise to the top.... Last time I checked, NY is a wonderful place...Miami is a wonderful place....LA is a wonderful place...San Francisco...not so much....How come if GTA is about sh*tty places, they haven't done Gary, Indiana...or Detroit, MI??

 

Kawn....who the f*ck knows what's going on in his head. He's so quick to defend street gangs and what they do when people rip on them.

 

But we're not talking reality here. We're talking about a f*cking game and somehow it transformed into some dumb ass debate. Everyone (except maybe Kwan) can agree that gangs/mafia/violence is sh*t and detrimental to our society. I'm simply defending the mafioso aspect as more fun to PLAY IN A GAME NOT IN REALITY and that's personal preference. Then this whole thing takes a turn into whose more bad ass in real life. Who gives a f*ck? I want to play a game with an interesting plot.

 

Any group or individual that runs the streets by instilling fear among their fellow citizens is scum...white, black, mexican, asian - doesn't matter

 

Your kind of talking reality here. Because what you're fully saying is that street gang's,rapists,terrorists,etc...., are "SCUM" or "bad people" which in REALITY, they are.

 

Also, we're kind of talking about gang's and violence NOT the game. You see, this is why this thread need's to be locked. It's just nothing but people talking trash about street gangs, and violence. It's just stupid and childish, and has NOTHING to do with discussion about the Next GTA game.

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90% of the world's Heroin supply comes from terrorists. Just sayin.

 

Further, that makes all D-Boyz terrorist-slaves.

 

This whole topic is retarded even beyond what it already was. This guy glorifies gang members all through it, under a false guise that it is in relation to organized crime.

 

@the person who is driving this whole argument (not you drift kings):

Regardless of what your motive is: The people in your avatar look retarded, and that's why people like that have to gang up together - because no one else will give them the time of day. Because they Do Not Deserve It.

 

Respect is Earned. And Respect is Everything.

 

Selling drugs or doing drive by's is not earning. It is avoiding responsibility and playing scapegoat role. It is the most pathetic aspect of our society, and any REAL riders WANT OUT of that life.

 

I keep it real. You guys need to chill out, and those people who think LA Crime is cool (I'm looking at you, Russia - joke, but those guys love some LA riders), are wrong. And if they paid any attention to the messages of the very game this forum is about, they would know it.

 

My word is good on this too, because I been there, and I done that. And it was stupid and weak and pitiful and pathetic, and as a better man today, I can admit my mistakes, regardless of all my idiot friends who never will. No time for them today, just watch them die lonely, one by one, sad, but life goes on smile.gif

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Heroin doesn't make you a street gang member. Terrorists are technically in a different class considering they have more knowledge in the advancement of technology. Street gang members on the other hand don't know sh*t.

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People are People regardless. There are plenty of soccer moms who know all about how to roll a joint.

 

That wasn't about you.

 

The argument is so broken: People who really think "the streets" "is" "the way" are "retarded".

 

I'm not some redneck spouting off. I probably rap better than any rapper alive. I lived my life around this stuff. And only because I had a bad attitude. I had plenty of excuses for why I "had to do what I had to do", but it was ALL excuses, all bullsh*t, and all the most regrettable times of my life.

 

I think that is as sincere as it can get.

 

Cool it yall, or we'll all get locked up tight.

 

Really, it should be: This topic has nothing to do with GTA.

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Your seriously going to ramble about my avatar now? What, got nothing to say? C'mon speak up "grit".

 

Also, Heroin doesn't make you a street gang member. Terrorists are technically in a different class considering they have more knowledge in the advancement of technology. Street gang members on the other hand don't know sh*t.

That, and the fact that terrorists bomb people......

 

@GritEngine, I noticed you said selling drugs doesn't pay. It seemed to pay quite the bit for this guy.

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Just saying......

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Well, I just said arfro-american gangs are stupid. I didn't say I don't  want them.

What makes them any stupider than a Hispanic gang, or even better, a white street gang? It seems to me that Official General hit the nail on the head here.

 

I just can't understand why people want every game to be filled with the mafia. I don't want a game filled with any one race, organization, or anything. Give us some variety, some diversity.

Kwan, General didn't hit the nail on the head. He's so far off base it's ridiculous. In fact, thats' a dangerous mentality (and very VERY naive) to assume ANYONE who degrades street gangs are racist. That's completely laughable.

 

People are bitching about street gangs because of what the do to our society, not because the race. The most prolific gangs are made up mainly of blacks. That's a fact. People are calling them out for what they do, not their effing color. You are the one making it about race. Stop making EVERYTHING about race. Start making it about people's ACTIONS.

@ ajrunke - You are an idiot and you are either really dumb or you are deliberately missing the point of what I was making here. Stop jumping to your extremely stupid and baseless conclusions.

 

I did not say that anyone who hates street gangs are racist. I did not say that at all. I said that I suspect most of the guys in here who hate the idea of Black or Hispanic street gangs in a GTA game and prefer to only see Mafia and White organized crime groups, are also the type of guys that happen to be use this hate to disguise their secret racist tendencies and feelings. I gave examples of this by quoting some of the comments they have made. Any GTA game should realistically have have a mix of different ethnic criminal groups and gangs, and if there is anyone having a problem with that, - I can only come to the conclusion that they have racist or prejudiced thoughts. As far as I'm concerned its just a game and its a game based on real-life gangs and organized crime - there is no real reason to get too deep into criticizing gangs of a particular race or ethnic group, after all its just a video game. I'm actually the one telling all the rest to leave race and ethnicity out of this. Like I said before, gangs are gangs, they are all essentially the same in terms of concept, principle and purpose. It dont matter whether they are street gangs or Mafiosi, they all work in groups to kill, steal, rob, cheat, extort, sell drugs, make huge amounts of money and make people fear them. I simply dont see what makes one much more worse than the other.

 

A real fan of GTA games would not be concerned with largely irrelevant issues like the race or ethnicity of the main character or other characters and gangs within the games. As long as a GTA game is turns out be excellent, of high technical quality, really interesting, fun and enjoyable to play, then thats all that SHOULD matter. But no, you ajrunke and others like you just have to start silly talk about, " those gangs of a certain race are dumb" or "that gang belonging to a certain race shouldnt be in the game". So to any right-minded person, it clearly shows that you are expressing some racist or prejudiced overtones.

 

And also whats with moral crusade ajrunke? Since when was a GTA games forum about criticizing and condemning real-life gangs and organzied crime? I do not condone what gangs and organized crime groups do - but I do find the way they operate interesting and intriguing and that is the reason why I read books about gangs and OC, why I watch gangster movies and why I play gang/organized crime-based games like GTA. GTA fans play GTA games because they find gangs and OC interesting and fascinating and they get the chance to play out their voyueristic fantasies. If you really despise all this gang stuff then you really should NOT even be on this forum in the first place, you should be on a website condemning violent games like GTA that glorify gangs and organized crime, just like what that GTA-hating lawyer Jack Thompson does on FOX News.

 

You need to just stop right here with your nonsense as you are really are looking like one silly fool.

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That wasn't about you

 

Sorry I thought you meant ME considering my avatar has y'know, a GANG in it - people who'd know what a gang is would know what i'm talking about.

 

 

That, and the fact that terrorists bomb people......

 

I think'd we'd all know that by now.

 

 

@GritEngine, I noticed you said selling drugs doesn't pay. It seemed to pay quite the bit for this guy.

 

Guy's like Big Meech are heavily influenced by gang's,crime,drugs. This gives them some more thought in their head to say

 

 

yeah im a gangster i live in LA and sell drugs yeah yeah

 

Sooner or later it turn's into a rap which then is scattered throughout people's head's which THEN, earn's you some money.

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Your seriously going to ramble about my avatar now? What, got nothing to say? C'mon speak up "grit".

 

Also, Heroin doesn't make you a street gang member. Terrorists are technically in a different class considering they have more knowledge in the advancement of technology. Street gang members on the other hand don't know sh*t.

That, and the fact that terrorists bomb people......

 

@GritEngine, I noticed you said selling drugs doesn't pay. It seemed to pay quite the bit for this guy.

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Just saying......

Let's just say I would never leave him alone around childtren, valuable possessions, probably would never invite him into my home, and I sure as hell wouldn't do business with him.

 

It might work for some, but for the staggering majority, you just end up alienated. That guy looks pretty afflicted. "see it in his eyes" kind of way.

 

I see pain in his eyes. He does not like his life or what he did with his life, and probably didn't have much of a choice. Either way, real bangers dream of the day no one does any bangin anymore. Only the low and the foot soldiers like what they do. And they ain't seeing Carnegie Hall any time soon.

 

edit: And he needs somebody to tighten up them braids, they are looking scratchy.

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Stop defending street gangs and other organizations. Crime is stupid in any form. Most of these "thugs" end up in jail and die on the streets. Stop acting like gangs and violence is good or anything.

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Stop defending street gangs and other organizations. Crime is stupid in any form. Most of these "thugs" end up in jail and die on the streets. Stop acting like gangs and violence is good or anything.

coming from a guy who plays a game about crime.

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