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mkey82

[FAQ]How to use xliveless to load savegames

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mkey82

Since lately there have been too much tears and blood spilt over this, lets ultra oversimplify.

 

Applies to both GTAIV and EFLC with the exact folder paths valid for GTAIV

 

Q) I really don't appreciate the text arts, do you have a video for me?

A) Yes, Dr. John13 prescribes this for your condition.

 

Q) What is xliveless?

A) xliveless is a Games For Windows Live (GFWL) wrapper that

a) Removes the need for GFWL (good for people who don't play in MP, disables achievements, bypasses possible GFWL issues).

b) Moves the savegame folder to "My Documents" and allows loading of downloaded savegames.

c) Acts as a loader for various asi and dll plugins. Hence, if you already have some loader installed remove it before installing xliveless.

d) Up to and including patch 5 for GTAIV, it disabled RGSC as well so you didn't need that crap running in the background all the time, also presenting a possible cause for various issues.

e) Basically, xliveless can improve performance in some cases.

 

Q) Where can I get xliveless?

A) HERE. Note that the latest version supports all previous game versions and with each new update you will have to wait for listener (a big thanks and loads of cookies to him) to update the wrapper.

 

Q) How do I install xliveless?

A) Simple. Open the RAR archive you downloaded (if in doubt, for archiving purposes you can use 7-zip) and extract the xlive.dll file only into the game directory, that is the directory where the game and the launcher executables are located. For GTAIV that dir would look something like

 

 

for retailC:\Program Files\Rockstar Games\Grand Theft Auto IV\or for SteamC:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\common\grand theft auto iv\

 

For EFLC it should be similar. these paths are valid for 32 bit OSes, for 64 it should be similar.

 

Q) Where can I get GTAIV savegames?

A) You can get them HERE. Big thanks and another pile of cookies for Fabio206 for creating these.

 

From recent development, it has come up that it may be very well possible these don't work on patch 7 and consequently patch 6. When I say "don't work" I mean "they fail loading from the savegame menu." xliveless will still work in junction with your own savegames on any patch version, but there seems to be a problem with patch 7 and these downloaded savegames. Thanks to miromiro for pointing this out, however there is probably more room for testing and determining what's going on in the background.

 

Q) Where do I get EFLC savegames?

A) There are some here, thanks to GTA 1911 for the link.

 

From my personal experience, I can confirm these do work on patch 1.1.2.0 (a patch 7 equivalent) as I have used them succesfully on my (Steam) version of TBOGT.

 

Q) How do I install the savegames?

A) If you need to get hold of your own savegames first, you will find them here

 

 

Windows XP SP3 - C:\Documents and Settings\<user>\Local Settings\Application Data\Rockstar Games\GTA IV\savegamesWindows Vista - C:\Users\<user>\AppData\Local\Rockstar Games\GTA IV\savegamesWindows 7	- C:\Users\<user>\AppData\Local\Rockstar Games\GTA IV\savegames

 

Change the system driver letters accordingly. These paths are valid for both 32 and 64 bit OS versions. For EFLC the paths should be similar.

 

Now, to place the savegames in the proper directory, you can go by one of the following two procedures

a) Create the following folder structure in the "My Documents" folder manually

 

 

Rockstar Games\GTA IV\savegames

 

for both 32 and 64 bit OS versions. For EFLC it should be similar.

 

b) Simply start GTAIV, create a new game from the menu and save the game taking the first opportunity. Now you can look for the folder in "My Documents" and drop any savegames you have there.

 

You can go play now.

 

Notes:

a) if you used any other xlive wrappers (like rick's wrapper) remove all xlive.dll files you had installed to make sure thing go smoothly.

b) any savegames created with xliveless will not work without it anymore so you will not be able to import them back into GFWL. I'm not saying this is impossible (maybe there is a tool out there), but the solution is not self-evident.

c) sometimes the "My Documents" folder can be tough to find if you moved it or if you changed your username so be careful.

d) If anyone contributes EFLC specific paths, I'll add them no questions asked biggrin.gif

e) xliveless supports all versions up to 1.0.7.0 English and 1.0.6.1 Russian. Thanks to aligar for testing this.

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scooz

Yeah thats where it starts from but i dont have a saved game on it yet. Im just trying to get the textures to load. Someone linked me to xliveless to see if it might help with an older patch but im way over my head. Im downloading the 1.0.3.0 patch and im gunna attempt to run it somehow so it fixes my missing texture issue.

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mkey82

Well, xliveless is working, I'm only not sure what do you expect from it, it simply disables GFWL and RGSC, loads some mods if you use any and changes the savegame directory.

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Sunrise Driver

 

Yeah thats where it starts from but i dont have a saved game on it yet.

Then simply transfer your saves to My Documents/Rockstar Games/saves.

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radioman

 

Savegames go into the newly created folder in My Documents.

 

Not always, I use Xliveless, with no patches, and the saves are still in the Original location in the AppData folder. This is on Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit. The saves load great and there is no savegames folder in My Documents. Just a friendly heads up... tounge2.gif

 

 

Then simply transfer your saves to My Documents/Rockstar Games/saves.

 

Again, depends on your set up, you might not have to move them at all-I didn't-they are still in the Original folder and still load and work great(both my saves and Downloaded saves).

 

But, Xliveless is a great tool to help get past all the updates for Windows Live and the Auto Patch updates. Good job to whomever created it.?

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Girish

@radioman: Are you sure you're not using an older version of Xliveless? Because, AFAIK, the latest version changes the location of the savegames folder.

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radioman

 

@radioman: Are you sure you're not using an older version of Xliveless? Because, AFAIK, the latest version changes the location of the savegames folder.

I'm not sure what version of Xliveless I have, but it should be the latest one, as I just Downloaded it from the Official topic here last month(when I got this laptop that can play the game). Here is the topic I got it from... So, unless there was an update done this month, it should be the latest one, I reckon.?

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nightwalker83

 

@radioman: Are you sure you're not using an older version of Xliveless? Because, AFAIK, the latest version changes the location of the savegames folder.

Are saying the location has changed from the locations below?

 

(for Windows Vista) %USERPROFILE%\Documents\Rockstar Games\GTA IV\savegames\

(for Windows XP) %USERPROFILE%\My Documents\Rockstar Games\GTA IV\savegames\

 

If so what are the new locations?

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Girish

Nope, those are the new locations.

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nightwalker83

That is strange I have tried everything I can think of however, I can't get xliveless working.

 

I've tried putting the saves in the new location both in the original online save folder and without that didn't work. I tried starting a new game and saving the game then putting my saves in that folder in the new location. While the saves appeared in the game when I did this I received a failed to load error hen trying to load each and every save game.

 

 

Edit:

 

The error I receive is "Load failed! Please check the hard drive and try again." I hope that helps find a solution to the problem.

 

Installing title_update_7_EN makes things worse if I have xliveless in the folder after the update and try to launch the game it fails to load.

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radioman

 

E:\Documents and Settings\<user>\Local Settings\Application Data\Rockstar Games\GTA IV\savegames

 

 

LOL, That's a funny one-installing stuff on the E drive- lol.giftounge2.gif That is the DVD/CD Rom drive-how are you supposed to install things onto the CD/DVD Rom drive when you have to have the CD/DVD in there to install it in the first place. That was meant as a joke in case anyone was wondering. But it is true, though, that's why it's funny

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nightwalker83
That is strange I have tried everything I can think of however, I can't get xliveless working.

 

I've tried putting the saves in the new location both in the original online save folder and without that didn't work. I tried starting a new game and saving the game then putting my saves in that folder in the new location. While the saves appeared in the game when I did this I received a failed to load error hen trying to load each and every save game.

 

 

Edit:

 

The error I receive is "Load failed! Please check the hard drive and try again." I hope that helps find a solution to the problem.

 

Installing title_update_7_EN makes things worse if I have xliveless in the folder after the update and try to launch the game it fails to load.

Anyone know a solution to this problem?

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mkey82

Are you sure you have the latest xliveless version? Which OS are you using? Does xliveless allow you to load the the newest savegame you made with it installed?

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radioman

Just a friendly heads up, but "B" and "D" in the first post need to be updated, as they are not true really?

 

b) Moves the savegame folder to "My Documents" and allows loading of downloaded savegames.

 

 

On Windows 7 64-bit, the saves are located here-even when using Xliveless:

Windows 7 - C:\Users\<user>\AppData\Local\Rockstar Games\GTA IV\savegames

 

 

d) Up to and including patch 5 for GTAIV, it disabled RGSC as well so you didn't need that crap running in the background all the time, also presenting a possible cause for various issues.

 

This is not actually true either, as I use Xliveless, and anytime I go to start the game(I use the Launch GTA IV icon like you are supposed to when using Xliveless), the Social Club window still comes up and you still have to click the Play button there to actually get the game to start. This is Windows 7 64-bit btw, so, Not sure how it is for XP OR Vista, as my XP Pro and Vista machines will not run the game-only my Windows 7 machine does...? Also, I don't have any patches for the game(Original from when I first installed it last month. It is the Original DVD version that I bought when the game first came out.

 

But otherwise, great job on creating the Xliveless program Mkey, it works great and keeps the constant GFWL updates from appearing... smile.gif

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mkey82

xliveless is not a program, it's a library wrapper and it's made by Listener, not me.

 

 

On Windows 7 64-bit, the saves are located here-even when using Xliveless:
Windows 7 - C:\Users\<user>\AppData\Local\Rockstar Games\GTA IV\savegames

 

user posted image

 

Windows 7 64 bit over here. I don't even have GFWL instaled.

 

 

d) Up to and including patch 5 for GTAIV, it disabled RGSC as well so you didn't need that crap running in the background all the time, also presenting a possible cause for various issues.

 

This is not actually true either, as I use Xliveless, and anytime I go to start the game(I use the Launch GTA IV icon like you are supposed to when using Xliveless), the Social Club window still comes up and you still have to click the Play button there to actually get the game to start.

I don't know what you're doing there, but xliveless completely disables RGSC, i.e. I don't even have it installed anymore. Patch 6 and above RGSC panel can be removed completely by removing the file "paul.dll" from the game directory.

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radioman

As you can see here: user posted image and here user posted image I have Windows 7 64-bit and the first pic. is where my saves are and the second one shows I have Xliveless in place-it is the last file at the bottom in the 2nd pic. and here's to prove the system it is running on..user posted image

 

PS- I would have edited the photos to make them smaller, but i'm not sure how to edit them to a smaller size.?

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mkey82

To me it seems xliveless in your case is not functioning properly. Admin rights, UAC settings or some other third party reason.

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radioman
To me it seems xliveless in your case is not functioning properly. Admin rights, UAC settings or some other third party reason.

I only have one account on this PC, it is the Admin. account, I have UAC on the Recommended setting, and the only third party app I have running in the background when I run the game is the AV program. I installed the game and put Xliveless in place before I installed my AV, so there would be no problems with that blocking it. I had the Xliveless program stored on an External HD from my other PC, and after I installed the game, I played the game, and it would not let me save the game-it always came up with something along the lines of "An update is required for GFWL...." and I went through the update process like 5 times in a row, and it still would not let me save the game until I used the Xliveless tool. I don't know why there was an update so soon anyway, as I had just installed the game and after the first time running it, it was already coming up with an update?-I mean shouldn't all of the updates had been applied with the initial install? lol confused.gif

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mkey82

No, when you run the game for the first time it will offer to update GFWL (if not up to date) and the game.

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radioman
No, when you run the game for the first time it will offer to update GFWL (if not up to date) and the game.

I don't get that GFWL crap anymore since using Xliveless(which is good, since it does away with it). That's how it was before I started using Xliveless(as far as GFWL goes)....

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nightwalker83

 

Are you sure you have the latest xliveless version? Which OS are you using? Does xliveless allow you to load the the newest savegame you made with it installed?

 

Disregard what I said about xliveless! The wrapper on the other hand is my problem. I can't get it working. I am using Vista 32 bit. I am trying to use the saves that I created online.

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mkey82

AFAIK xliveless will not work with online saves.

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gremlinkurst

 

That is strange I have tried everything I can think of however, I can't get xliveless working.

 

I've tried putting the saves in the new location both in the original online save folder and without that didn't work. I tried starting a new game and saving the game then putting my saves in that folder in the new location. While the saves appeared in the game when I did this I received a failed to load error hen trying to load each and every save game.

 

 

Edit:

 

The error I receive is "Load failed! Please check the hard drive and try again." I hope that helps find a solution to the problem.

 

Installing title_update_7_EN makes things worse if I have xliveless in the folder after the update and try to launch the game it fails to load.

RE: nightwalker83 complaint: "Load failed! Please check the hard drive and try again."

That is my complaint exactly. I would be able to say that I understand the Xliveless directions perfectly, but for one thing: What the Sam Hell is an ASI loader? I ran a directory search for both the string "ASI" and for any files with an ASI extension, and there aren't any such animals in the Grand Theft Auto IV directory. Supposedly, this Xliveless thing is supposed to enable me to load gamesaves that weren't written by my particular copy of GTA IV, but it is a miserable FAILURE. The only saved games I can load successfully are backed up copies of files written by my GTA IV [& DLC] game. My suspicion is that the load failure is due to data mismatch, that the originating profile name is embedded in the save file, and that when the embedded data does not match the directory it is placed in, an error results…except, that if that was the case, then not all of my own files should load after system reformat and game reinstallation. Perhaps it might help if someone explained exactly why a saved game generated by User A will not work on User B's system. I can't troubleshoot a problem if I don't know what the problem IS. RE: Schroedinger's Cat: I ALWAYS end up with a dead cat.

 

EDIT: I'm running Windows 7 Ultimate x64 with a 6-core CPU and Radeon HD 7850 GPU.

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